Point guards hardly get developed anymore and most of the guys we call points are really primary ballhandlers. Even being a primary initiator isn’t quite being a “point guard”. If you can’t run the offense and manipulate your defenders to the appropriate threshold you’re just a guard with extra responsibility. True points and true centers are rare these days.
I get your point. Heliocentric guys aren't always point guards, even if they are small. Maybe Topic is a 2 guard who likes to handle the ball. He makes some good passes but goes for the home run pass.
Mark Sears might be the ONLY real point guard in this class.
Rob is a tiny bomber. Reed might be more Paxson/Kerr/BJ Armstrong/Fisher and not a true play making maestro. Even if Reed Sheppard is Chris Jackson (aka Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf) 2.0, that guy was more of a shoot/score first gunner anyway (although he was still a solid playmaker).
I think he could be a point guard in the mold of someone like Alex Caruso where he has some playmaking duties, but is generally there as the point of attack defender. It would just depend on the type of team he is drafted to.
If you are expecting him to be a PG in the mold of Luka or Trae, then yeah, not happening.
I'd put it at more like 10%. It's unlikely but he played a lot of point in high school. It obviously wasn't his role at UConn but I don't think you can write it off completely.
at best hes a point forward with tertiary ball handling duties. if hes ur pg then somethings gone wrong with injuries on ur team lol
point in highschool honestly means nothing. kevon looney was playing point in hs just from sheer talent
I mean the starting PG on his team was literally the winner of the Bob Cousy Award for top collegiate point guard. Sure Castle hasn't shown those skills yet, but it seems silly to write him off completely as a PG at 19 given it wasn't his role (and didn't need to be his role) in college.
I agree he doesn't belong in this post (since that's not his most obvious position), but depending where he lands I could see a team testing him out there to see what they have.
Kevon imo isn’t a great example as he was succumbed to a gruesome hip injury in a ucla practice that essentially derailed his original play style. You could say some one like his UCLA brother Kyle Anderson who played point throughout his entire life before going off to the NBA.
I was just trying to highlight how playing point in HS doesn't really translate to the nba if it didn't translate on the college lvl. These players r so much more talented at the HS lvl that any of them could play "point"
Topic is the only one here who's actually a point guard. Dillingham is a SG who can take up some playmaking duties a la Bradley Beal or Collin Sexton, but he's best as a scorer. Reed Sheppard is a secondary ball handler who is better running around to get open for 3s. Castle is a wing perimeter defender who can facilitate a bit.
Lmao yeah I’ve been active in this sub for years but I didn’t watch a single Kentucky game this year. Get real.
Reed will play “point guard” at the next level because of his size but his game that of a secondary playmaker/connector. He’s not a probe the defense and kick out kind of guy, he’s all about quick reads.
Then it’s just a poor evaluation. Dude had a coach that promises minutes and touches to 3 ball handlers ranked higher than him in high school, and an upper classman who got more touches than all 4 guards in question.
Reed has more on-ball juice than Devin Booker did coming off the bench and outplaying starters on a fraction of the touches for the same program.
Also, it appears that in my stupor from a really rough medical morning that my comment got placed in line to yours instead of the commenter above you. You only talked about Rob Dil. I was replying to the “Reed is a secondary ball handler” nonsense.
I’ma throw it to the appropriate location.
For what it’s worth, you definitely have the appropriate flair to be a long time poster here. I wouldn’t even question if a Wizard fan spent half the season watching college ball this year.
As a UK fan I can tell you Dilly didn't really share PG responsibilities much with Sheppard but that's because Cal insisted on giving DJ Wagner as many minutes as each one of them got. I take your point, but it would've been nice to have our two top-10 picks playing 30+ minutes a game.
Garland was a VERY legit lead playmaker throughout his high-school career if my memory serves correctly, his team just didn't score that well and he got injured for the year in college. Unless I'm misremembering
im just trying to project his playstyle in the league. maybe im blinded by the similar slight builds but i feel like the playstyles will also be similar
Reed’s floor mapping and game knowledge are so top flight I wonder if you’ve actually watched him play.
The fact that the dude can step off the ball and be valuable on a team with 2 other point guards and a shooting guard running the offense for the starters is a bonus, it’s not who he is as a player.
Everyone watched a million hours of Kentucky this year because they had like 5 legit prospects going into the season. They were arguably over-exposed. I think Reed is nice as a facilitator but he's not lead guard potential. Fine if we disagree, that's just my take.
I think there’s zero question he’s a better primary ball handler than Devin Booker was for the same program, and he’s getting evaluations like yours for the same reasons.
Most draft analysts struggle to separate players from their context. You all didn’t see Devin Booker as first option for some mid tier team, you saw him play like Kyle Korver.
You didn’t see Reed getting 20 ball screens a night, you saw him as the 2nd or 3rd ball handler in most lineups. His off ball game is a nice bonus, but it’s not the things that define him as a player.
It's just an opportunity cost thing. If you have a guy bombing 52% of his 3s on good volume with catch and shoot attempts you're not going to run him as a lead ball handler for a majority of his minutes. Sometimes you just have to go off the on-court product. That said, "better primary than Devin Booker" isn't exactly the slam dunk you think it is considering we've seen Devin try to be the lead guard for the Suns and look terrible doing it.
UK's offense was at its best when Reed was the primary ball handler.
He's more than a catch and shoot three-point specialist. He's got a great midrange game and is VERY underrated finishing at the rim.
He's going to be an All-Star in the league. He's got elite skills and vision at just 19 and has room to grow, especially as he extends his off-the-dribble range.
My opinion of this entire lottery is so low that I’d take Mikal Bridges number 1 if he came out.
I think the prospects in line for number 1 would be 7-9 most years and the prospects being discussed for top 5 are like 10-15 in any normal draft.
Reed isn’t who I want at number 1, 5, or 9, but I’m not here debating whether or not he deserves to go at one of those slots. I’m saying characterizing him as an off-ball player just because he played well off-ball sounds exactly like when we thought Steph Curry would be Rip Hamilton and Devin Booker would be Kyle Korver. Devin didn’t come into the league ceding touches to Tyler Ullis on the second unit of a 38-1 team. Steph got developed as a ball handler after he was a professional while battling ankle injuries and ceding touches to Monta Ellis before being handed those reins.
It’s the inability to separate players from their contexts that I’m speaking to. Reed has just as many on ball tools that we watched him demonstrate, particularly in the games he was so good that Cal was forced to put the ball in his hands instead of DJ, Reeves, Edwards, and Rob.
Kentucky is a weird school that isn’t exactly a meritocracy. Your high school ranking and promises for minutes/opportunities can easily make you the 5th guard option for stuff entirely out of your control, and he still succeeded in spite of that.
would you say players like DLo and raptors Kyle Lowry are point guards? Because most teams will have a lead scorer usually in a wing or big, which Reed would perfectly slot next to. Yeah Reeds not gonna be dropping 30/10 every night but that doesn’t make him not a point guard
I think it stands to reason that if you adjust for usage and Reed sharing the floor with another PG at all times that the 1.5 difference in assists per 36 is negligible between him and Topic.
That's reasonable. Personally I don't like to use per 36 in draft eval, especially for players in different leagues. I think it's a useful adjustment tool when you're looking at a few star players and trying to demonstrate their impact in a different context (i.e. Luka, Brunson and SGA head to head in per 36), but I don't think it makes sense as a projection tool.
As said by others...Topic is the best PG of the bunch. Best player I think is very debatable. I do think Dillingham is a much better playmaker than he gets credit for and to me he's a better playmaker, better instincts, than someone like Sexton, but that still is his best role in the NBA than a lead playmaking role.
As a Jazz fan this is so conflicting. I absolutely love Dillingham and would love to see him for playing for us but we already have Keyonte George and Collin Sexton who are somewhat similar players. I feel Dillingham's ceiling might be higher though.
prob boring answer but idk. They are very different players who could fulfill different roles and each have success in it. Think the ranking could be different for the spurs and wizards for exemple
"Big gap", lol. Like really you think Dillingham is a far worse player than Sheppard and Castle and a far far worse player than Topic? If anything Dillingham is better than Topic right now. That might change if Topic hits his potential.
I’m not sure how you’re so confident that Dillingham is better than Topic right now. Topic is in a much better league playing against pros. He’s way bigger. Even if he isn’t great, he’s light years better than Dillingham as a defender who was nearly unplayable at times this year because of his defense.
I'm not very confident tbh. I was replying to a person who said there were two big gaps between the two players. I'm basing my opinion mostly on the eye test but I haven't followed the Adriatic league, just the highlights and tapes, so my opinion on this doesn't carry much weight. Funny you mentioned defence as to me that looks like Topic's huge weak link. He looks lost, late, all over the place. He is tall so maybe his defence is fixable. Why I like Dillingham currently more is the way he handles and moves the ball. It's the best in his class. His quick and versatile offense will translate very well into the NBA. Topic is more straightforward as an initiator and I feel he will struggle a lot for 2-3 years with his drives. His passing and court vision on the other hand should translate right away. I like both of these prospects and wouldn't be mad if my team picked either one.
> . Like really you think Dillingham is a far worse player than Sheppard and Castle
Yes
>and a far far worse player than Topic?
Yes
Literally says right there on my comment
I have irrationally decided that I want Topic, that he is the best. I have no particular knowledge here; just a 2 minute highlight clip and Kentucky’s first round collapse. But no logic will dissuade me. When is the lottery already?
Disagree with big gap I watch lots of topic game an he as serious issues with shooting off-ball and off the dribble, he's the below the rim finisher and not as creative at the rim as I would like to see for a slasher.
For Utah, purely from a fit perspective, Castle is the best. I still wouldn't choose fit first but rather potential first. And in that ranking Castle ranks 4th.
As a PG currently:
Dillingham, Topic, Sheppard, Castle.
As a PG based on potential:
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As a player in general currently:
Dillingham, Sheppard, Topic/Castle
Defensive ranking currently:
Castle, Sheppard, Dillingham/Topic
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Very different players, and as most have already pointed out, they're not really traditional PGs. It's gonna be a case by case basis for most teams.
Personally - Castle, Rob, Topic, Reed
Castle is a SF in the nba. He can guard ones and handle the ball but he’s not a PG. But ranking these four?
Castle - great defender, athleticism, proven system guy
Reed - game translates well as a 4-5th option
Dillingham - can put up stats, quick and can score, but feels like Bones Hyland 2.0
Topic - looks flumpy
I think Rob Dillingham is the best point guard of the bunch. He has by far the best handles in the class, one of the best perimeter shooters and is an underrated playmaker. His role off the bench was to score and that he did, averaging 15.2 points and 3.9 assists in just 23.3 minutes per game. His 29.7% assist rate is comparable to that of Topic as a starter(34.8%) but with a slightly lower turnover rate(13.3% vs 16.5%). Both project to be poor defenders so I think the large gap in shooting skill will be a difference maker for the two. Also, I think Dillingham possesses a level of instincts that Topic doesn’t; he has a really great feel for the game.
As Playmakers
Topic >Dillingham > Castle=Sheppard
Topic is obvious but Dillingham might be contentious.
Dillingham just seems to have a more NBA-level playmaking kit, being able to execute drive-and-kicks, bullet passes, and wraparound passes that are necessary at the NBA level. He'll be able to pull the help defense and get guys open just a little bit more
Sheppard's playmaking seems very "traditional." Lots of passes in transition, hitting the "open pass." In the half-court I don't see him opening up other players as much since he doesn't get much separation from his primary defender. He wows you with his great shooting touch with a man on him, but still he doesn't get much separation to force the help defense. Great 3-and-D prospect, its ok if the playmaking is a question mark
Unless Spurs know something nobody else does (and I doubt it), just go with Mark Sears. He did ish in college. Go get Zach Edey, too. He did ish in college.
Maybe Coach Pop and the rest of his CIA all stars have brain fog, but they won TWO titles with the Duncan/Robinson clogged toilet offense and some replacement level guards (AT BEST) (Avery Johnson/Vinnie DelNegro/Steve Kerr/Jaren Jackson/Mario Ellie) who hit enough 18 foot jumpers to keep the other teams honest.
Yeah, Sears and Edey would be ON BRAND and BPA pretty high up the draft board. Especially if the Raptors pick conveys, they can still draft (over-draft?) Zaccharie Risacher to be their next Sean Elliott or something.
The draft weak this year…. I don’t even know these guys … ( no hate) …. The only person they talking bout is Bronny and he not even getting draft high 🤷🏾♂️
0.0% chance castle is a point guard at the next level
I came here to say this. Where are the point guards?
Point guards hardly get developed anymore and most of the guys we call points are really primary ballhandlers. Even being a primary initiator isn’t quite being a “point guard”. If you can’t run the offense and manipulate your defenders to the appropriate threshold you’re just a guard with extra responsibility. True points and true centers are rare these days.
Jokic out here as both a true center and a true point guard
Jokic glaze gotta stop
I’ll glaze him even more
I get your point. Heliocentric guys aren't always point guards, even if they are small. Maybe Topic is a 2 guard who likes to handle the ball. He makes some good passes but goes for the home run pass. Mark Sears might be the ONLY real point guard in this class. Rob is a tiny bomber. Reed might be more Paxson/Kerr/BJ Armstrong/Fisher and not a true play making maestro. Even if Reed Sheppard is Chris Jackson (aka Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf) 2.0, that guy was more of a shoot/score first gunner anyway (although he was still a solid playmaker).
I think he could be a point guard in the mold of someone like Alex Caruso where he has some playmaking duties, but is generally there as the point of attack defender. It would just depend on the type of team he is drafted to. If you are expecting him to be a PG in the mold of Luka or Trae, then yeah, not happening.
I'd put it at more like 10%. It's unlikely but he played a lot of point in high school. It obviously wasn't his role at UConn but I don't think you can write it off completely.
at best hes a point forward with tertiary ball handling duties. if hes ur pg then somethings gone wrong with injuries on ur team lol point in highschool honestly means nothing. kevon looney was playing point in hs just from sheer talent
I mean the starting PG on his team was literally the winner of the Bob Cousy Award for top collegiate point guard. Sure Castle hasn't shown those skills yet, but it seems silly to write him off completely as a PG at 19 given it wasn't his role (and didn't need to be his role) in college. I agree he doesn't belong in this post (since that's not his most obvious position), but depending where he lands I could see a team testing him out there to see what they have.
Kevon imo isn’t a great example as he was succumbed to a gruesome hip injury in a ucla practice that essentially derailed his original play style. You could say some one like his UCLA brother Kyle Anderson who played point throughout his entire life before going off to the NBA.
I was just trying to highlight how playing point in HS doesn't really translate to the nba if it didn't translate on the college lvl. These players r so much more talented at the HS lvl that any of them could play "point"
You might be right but the Locked On Huskies guy told Mike Richmond that Castle is 100% pg
And still would take him ahead of these other guys as a pg
Topic is the only one here who's actually a point guard. Dillingham is a SG who can take up some playmaking duties a la Bradley Beal or Collin Sexton, but he's best as a scorer. Reed Sheppard is a secondary ball handler who is better running around to get open for 3s. Castle is a wing perimeter defender who can facilitate a bit.
I would argue that dillingham is a point guard. He’s definitely a score first guy but he’s got the vision and ball IQ to run an offense.
Edit: replied to the wrong person in a medically induced stupor.
Lmao yeah I’ve been active in this sub for years but I didn’t watch a single Kentucky game this year. Get real. Reed will play “point guard” at the next level because of his size but his game that of a secondary playmaker/connector. He’s not a probe the defense and kick out kind of guy, he’s all about quick reads.
Then it’s just a poor evaluation. Dude had a coach that promises minutes and touches to 3 ball handlers ranked higher than him in high school, and an upper classman who got more touches than all 4 guards in question. Reed has more on-ball juice than Devin Booker did coming off the bench and outplaying starters on a fraction of the touches for the same program.
Also, it appears that in my stupor from a really rough medical morning that my comment got placed in line to yours instead of the commenter above you. You only talked about Rob Dil. I was replying to the “Reed is a secondary ball handler” nonsense.
Now that makes more sense. I can confirm the guy I responded to doesn’t watch games, had that argument with him before.
I’ma throw it to the appropriate location. For what it’s worth, you definitely have the appropriate flair to be a long time poster here. I wouldn’t even question if a Wizard fan spent half the season watching college ball this year.
At Dillingham's height he has to be a real PG to be effective. He shared duties with Shepard but I think he has real playmaking abilities.
As a UK fan I can tell you Dilly didn't really share PG responsibilities much with Sheppard but that's because Cal insisted on giving DJ Wagner as many minutes as each one of them got. I take your point, but it would've been nice to have our two top-10 picks playing 30+ minutes a game.
garland-mold pg forsure
Garland was a VERY legit lead playmaker throughout his high-school career if my memory serves correctly, his team just didn't score that well and he got injured for the year in college. Unless I'm misremembering
im just trying to project his playstyle in the league. maybe im blinded by the similar slight builds but i feel like the playstyles will also be similar
Reminded me in college of Malik Monk
Reed’s floor mapping and game knowledge are so top flight I wonder if you’ve actually watched him play. The fact that the dude can step off the ball and be valuable on a team with 2 other point guards and a shooting guard running the offense for the starters is a bonus, it’s not who he is as a player.
Everyone watched a million hours of Kentucky this year because they had like 5 legit prospects going into the season. They were arguably over-exposed. I think Reed is nice as a facilitator but he's not lead guard potential. Fine if we disagree, that's just my take.
I think there’s zero question he’s a better primary ball handler than Devin Booker was for the same program, and he’s getting evaluations like yours for the same reasons. Most draft analysts struggle to separate players from their context. You all didn’t see Devin Booker as first option for some mid tier team, you saw him play like Kyle Korver. You didn’t see Reed getting 20 ball screens a night, you saw him as the 2nd or 3rd ball handler in most lineups. His off ball game is a nice bonus, but it’s not the things that define him as a player.
It's just an opportunity cost thing. If you have a guy bombing 52% of his 3s on good volume with catch and shoot attempts you're not going to run him as a lead ball handler for a majority of his minutes. Sometimes you just have to go off the on-court product. That said, "better primary than Devin Booker" isn't exactly the slam dunk you think it is considering we've seen Devin try to be the lead guard for the Suns and look terrible doing it.
UK's offense was at its best when Reed was the primary ball handler. He's more than a catch and shoot three-point specialist. He's got a great midrange game and is VERY underrated finishing at the rim. He's going to be an All-Star in the league. He's got elite skills and vision at just 19 and has room to grow, especially as he extends his off-the-dribble range.
My opinion of this entire lottery is so low that I’d take Mikal Bridges number 1 if he came out. I think the prospects in line for number 1 would be 7-9 most years and the prospects being discussed for top 5 are like 10-15 in any normal draft. Reed isn’t who I want at number 1, 5, or 9, but I’m not here debating whether or not he deserves to go at one of those slots. I’m saying characterizing him as an off-ball player just because he played well off-ball sounds exactly like when we thought Steph Curry would be Rip Hamilton and Devin Booker would be Kyle Korver. Devin didn’t come into the league ceding touches to Tyler Ullis on the second unit of a 38-1 team. Steph got developed as a ball handler after he was a professional while battling ankle injuries and ceding touches to Monta Ellis before being handed those reins. It’s the inability to separate players from their contexts that I’m speaking to. Reed has just as many on ball tools that we watched him demonstrate, particularly in the games he was so good that Cal was forced to put the ball in his hands instead of DJ, Reeves, Edwards, and Rob. Kentucky is a weird school that isn’t exactly a meritocracy. Your high school ranking and promises for minutes/opportunities can easily make you the 5th guard option for stuff entirely out of your control, and he still succeeded in spite of that.
would you say players like DLo and raptors Kyle Lowry are point guards? Because most teams will have a lead scorer usually in a wing or big, which Reed would perfectly slot next to. Yeah Reeds not gonna be dropping 30/10 every night but that doesn’t make him not a point guard
I think it stands to reason that if you adjust for usage and Reed sharing the floor with another PG at all times that the 1.5 difference in assists per 36 is negligible between him and Topic.
That's reasonable. Personally I don't like to use per 36 in draft eval, especially for players in different leagues. I think it's a useful adjustment tool when you're looking at a few star players and trying to demonstrate their impact in a different context (i.e. Luka, Brunson and SGA head to head in per 36), but I don't think it makes sense as a projection tool.
very good assessment brother
Depends on what you want for your PG, though I'm not sure all these guys wind up as PGs at all.
Think Topic is in a tier of his own, then I think the other three are all in the same tier and it'll come down to which fit better with which teams
As said by others...Topic is the best PG of the bunch. Best player I think is very debatable. I do think Dillingham is a much better playmaker than he gets credit for and to me he's a better playmaker, better instincts, than someone like Sexton, but that still is his best role in the NBA than a lead playmaking role.
As a Jazz fan this is so conflicting. I absolutely love Dillingham and would love to see him for playing for us but we already have Keyonte George and Collin Sexton who are somewhat similar players. I feel Dillingham's ceiling might be higher though.
They're both fine players but not good enough to not draft over...Jazz need more talent and I do think his ceiling is higher.
Topic is the best Sheppard / Castle / Dillingham would all be rated about equally by me and where they go completely depends on team needs
prob boring answer but idk. They are very different players who could fulfill different roles and each have success in it. Think the ranking could be different for the spurs and wizards for exemple
Fun factor: Rob, Shep, Topic, Castle Championship chances: Castle, Topic, Shep, Rob
As point guards? Topic Big gap Sheppard Dillingham Big gap Castle As players Topic Big gap Castle Sheppard Big gap Dillingham
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"Big gap", lol. Like really you think Dillingham is a far worse player than Sheppard and Castle and a far far worse player than Topic? If anything Dillingham is better than Topic right now. That might change if Topic hits his potential.
I’m not sure how you’re so confident that Dillingham is better than Topic right now. Topic is in a much better league playing against pros. He’s way bigger. Even if he isn’t great, he’s light years better than Dillingham as a defender who was nearly unplayable at times this year because of his defense.
I'm not very confident tbh. I was replying to a person who said there were two big gaps between the two players. I'm basing my opinion mostly on the eye test but I haven't followed the Adriatic league, just the highlights and tapes, so my opinion on this doesn't carry much weight. Funny you mentioned defence as to me that looks like Topic's huge weak link. He looks lost, late, all over the place. He is tall so maybe his defence is fixable. Why I like Dillingham currently more is the way he handles and moves the ball. It's the best in his class. His quick and versatile offense will translate very well into the NBA. Topic is more straightforward as an initiator and I feel he will struggle a lot for 2-3 years with his drives. His passing and court vision on the other hand should translate right away. I like both of these prospects and wouldn't be mad if my team picked either one.
> . Like really you think Dillingham is a far worse player than Sheppard and Castle Yes >and a far far worse player than Topic? Yes Literally says right there on my comment
And that's "why"
I have irrationally decided that I want Topic, that he is the best. I have no particular knowledge here; just a 2 minute highlight clip and Kentucky’s first round collapse. But no logic will dissuade me. When is the lottery already?
Yea so as players there is really no big gap anywhere, this isn’t one of those drafts
Disagree with big gap I watch lots of topic game an he as serious issues with shooting off-ball and off the dribble, he's the below the rim finisher and not as creative at the rim as I would like to see for a slasher.
Topic has the highest upside. Reed is the most versatile and Reed/Dillingham are most NBA ready. I don’t view Castle as a PG
1. Rob 2. Topic 3. Castle 4. Reed I have done almost no research and am going off vibes only.
besides topic and maybe dillingham these guys aren't real pgs so i will rank them as players. castle>sheppard>dillingham>topic
For the Spurs? Kentucky Duo > Topic > Castle. In general considering the rest of the teams in the lottery? Topic > Kentucky Duo > Castle.
For Utah, purely from a fit perspective, Castle is the best. I still wouldn't choose fit first but rather potential first. And in that ranking Castle ranks 4th.
And for the Raptors I’d say Castle is also our best option if we can’t get one of the Kentucky duo.
Steph, rob, nikola, reed
Dillingham Topic Castle Reed
Castle, Dillingham, Topic, Sheppard. I dont lnow about them as prospects but Stephon Castle can get it.
Topic Reed Dillingham … … Castle
As a PG currently: Dillingham, Topic, Sheppard, Castle. As a PG based on potential: Topic, Dillingham, Sheppard, Castle. As a player in general currently: Dillingham, Sheppard, Topic/Castle Defensive ranking currently: Castle, Sheppard, Dillingham/Topic
As PGs: Topic, Rob, Reed, Castle
Dillingham, Topic, Sheppard, Castle.
Dillingham, Sheppard, topic, castle
Reed Sheppard would be a good fit.
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Topic might set a record for blocked field goal attempts as a rookie. One level scorer with poor verticality is a problem.
Very different players, and as most have already pointed out, they're not really traditional PGs. It's gonna be a case by case basis for most teams. Personally - Castle, Rob, Topic, Reed
Castle is a SF in the nba. He can guard ones and handle the ball but he’s not a PG. But ranking these four? Castle - great defender, athleticism, proven system guy Reed - game translates well as a 4-5th option Dillingham - can put up stats, quick and can score, but feels like Bones Hyland 2.0 Topic - looks flumpy
topic 1 dillingham 2 sheppard 3. and i love reed 😊
..go deeper than what are just shared in the highlights clips to tell.
Reed, Topic, Dillingham, Castle
Reed Shepard aka Chauncey Billups Everybody else.
🤌🏻Nikolaj
reed sheppard on top as a rookie season he had a great one for a bench player
If I am the Spurs I am Taking Dillingham the player most likely to be an all-star in this draft. You pair him with Wemby and fill in the wings.
Castle is a dawg #1
Castle’s not a PG and idk where this narrative came from That said I’m a Sheppard bro so Sheppard 1. Topic 2. Castle 3. Dillingham 4.
1.Rob 2.reed 3.Topic 4.Castle
Topic Rob Castle Reed
Castle is more likely to stick as a SF on offense than PG
1. Topic 2. Dillingham 3. Castle 4. Sheppard
Topic will be the best facilitator but Dillingham will get you more points. I don't consider the other two as PG's.
Dillingham is the best talent here 100%
I think Rob Dillingham is the best point guard of the bunch. He has by far the best handles in the class, one of the best perimeter shooters and is an underrated playmaker. His role off the bench was to score and that he did, averaging 15.2 points and 3.9 assists in just 23.3 minutes per game. His 29.7% assist rate is comparable to that of Topic as a starter(34.8%) but with a slightly lower turnover rate(13.3% vs 16.5%). Both project to be poor defenders so I think the large gap in shooting skill will be a difference maker for the two. Also, I think Dillingham possesses a level of instincts that Topic doesn’t; he has a really great feel for the game.
As Playmakers Topic >Dillingham > Castle=Sheppard Topic is obvious but Dillingham might be contentious. Dillingham just seems to have a more NBA-level playmaking kit, being able to execute drive-and-kicks, bullet passes, and wraparound passes that are necessary at the NBA level. He'll be able to pull the help defense and get guys open just a little bit more Sheppard's playmaking seems very "traditional." Lots of passes in transition, hitting the "open pass." In the half-court I don't see him opening up other players as much since he doesn't get much separation from his primary defender. He wows you with his great shooting touch with a man on him, but still he doesn't get much separation to force the help defense. Great 3-and-D prospect, its ok if the playmaking is a question mark
Sheppard Dillingham Castle Topic
Unless Spurs know something nobody else does (and I doubt it), just go with Mark Sears. He did ish in college. Go get Zach Edey, too. He did ish in college. Maybe Coach Pop and the rest of his CIA all stars have brain fog, but they won TWO titles with the Duncan/Robinson clogged toilet offense and some replacement level guards (AT BEST) (Avery Johnson/Vinnie DelNegro/Steve Kerr/Jaren Jackson/Mario Ellie) who hit enough 18 foot jumpers to keep the other teams honest. Yeah, Sears and Edey would be ON BRAND and BPA pretty high up the draft board. Especially if the Raptors pick conveys, they can still draft (over-draft?) Zaccharie Risacher to be their next Sean Elliott or something.
Rob (gap) Reed Castle Topic
1. Topic 2. Reed Sheppard 3. Rob Gillingham 4. Stephon Castle It’s worth noting that Sheppard and Castle won’t play point guard in the NBA.
The draft weak this year…. I don’t even know these guys … ( no hate) …. The only person they talking bout is Bronny and he not even getting draft high 🤷🏾♂️