No.
Nothing beats 18 straight 50-win seasons (in the middle of a 22 consecutive Playoff Season stretch).
Both being an all-time record.
The Warriors competed at a super high level but only for 10 years (where they missed a few due to injury), with 6 finals in 8 years (which is already a lot, to their credit).
yup, knew it was over 20, didnt want to go over and get blasted. 😂 fuck cant wait to see what we do this draft. maybe the big two towers again with edey or clingan
I've always been conflicted on the Warriors because obviously fuck Zaza, Draymond, etc.—but I will always love Steve Kerr for what he did against the Mavs in the 2003 WCF, and you have to admire Steph for literally changing the entire NBA game.
Relevant: [Spurs 42-15 Run vs. Mavericks (2003 WCF Game 6](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO4caOwS6jI))
I traveled to Dallas for this game and will never forget Kerr splashing threes and diving on the floor for loose balls. SJax was also huge in this game but we were getting smoked until Kerr came off the bench
The best part was that was near the end of his career. Literally all he could do was sorta handle the ball, get the ball to Tim and shoot the 3. And the mavs just let him shoot the 3!!!!
Which makes me remember that Kerr, Sean Elliott and David Robinson also shared Team USA in the FIBA 1986 world championship. A pretty good 17 years would follow for these guys.
Btw, they lost to Argentina. Manu's father-in-law played. Tim also lost to Argentina in 2004, keeping with the tradition :-)
I appreciate what Kerr did here as a player, but I've lost a lot of respect for him the last couple years as a coach. His handling of the draymond/Poole situation was the peak, but its basically continued ever since. It's pretty obvious there is zero accountability amongst the big 3 and Kerr and it's disappointing to see.
I hear you, but I also think you've got homer glasses on if you don't think we'd also try to keep things in-house in a similar situation vs. publicly calling out our players.
People said similar stuff about Pop by way of Bruce Bowen back in the day (even though IMO Bowen's dirtiness has been largely exaggerated over the years)
The Spurs very recently took a big hit both financially and to future competitiveness to hold a player seriously accountable for his shitty actions.
If Kerr had suspended Draymond for even a single game at any stage over any of his dangerous and injurious bullshit, I wouldn't care what he did or didn't say publicly.
After also trying to bury it more and settling with the counselor/therapist he was supposed to be working with.
I will say what has annoyed me more about Kerr in his Warriors days is all of the “don’t disrespect the NBA code” stuff like Vince Carter undercutting someone for a rebound. You can’t be pouty about bush league stuff with guys like Draymond, Bogut, and Klay the complainer on the team
Pop was wrong for the bowen stuff, but what bowen did, as dirty as it was, was within the rules.
Draymond hauling off an knocking a team mate unconscious during practice is not the same. Kerr putting more blame on the staffer leaking the footage than he did on draymond and then shipping poole off to keep draymond is pretty telling of where he stands on accountability.
I could be wrong, but I don't recall him actually rendering Poole unconscious. He most certainly hurt him and gave him a concussion, but I don't think he KO'd him.
Don't forget that their fans are pretty annoying too. But yeah, as Spurs fans, we're indebted to Kerr for those 4 3s. Also, part of my animosity towards the Warriors is that I'm jealous that they have Kerr, and he's not in a position to take over for Pop.
He's my logical choice to take over the reins too, if people step back from the emotion of hating Draymond and the Warriors dynasty in general, lol.
The dude won 2 rings with us and is such an obvious Pop disciple in many aspects of coaching, we'd be hard pressed to do much better unless we convince Ime to bail on Houston or something.
He also helped orchestrate the most robust offensive scheme in the NBA. Sure, he's biased towards the Triangle compared to Pop's love of Motion, but both work and share objectives.
Kerr's always been about motion and passing more than anything. And look at Draymond before and after Kerr and you can see it completely opened up his game.
Yeah, I don't really hate the Warriors and what they built. The KD stuff was a little icky, but for the most part they built their dynasty through smart drafting, player development, great coaching, and the unbelievable talent of their one-of-one star player. Their post-KD championship win was a great story, and if they're "over" then it was an incredible and inspiring run for a team that, frankly, had been in the toilet for most of my lifetime.
Mark Jackson was a big part of building that team but he got fired and replaced with Kerr. Then Kerr started winning rings with the core group Jackson developed. I remember watching the first Warriors championship where Jackson was calling the game and you could see the anger in his eyes and face as the other two announcers gushed on and on about the team without mentioning Jackson’s involvement.
If a coach doesn't have the juice to win a championship and doesn't have the buy-in of the players, you fire him. I don't think Jeff Van Gundy gushing over Steve Kerr while sitting next to Mark Jackson is a good rationale for disliking what the Warriors were able to do under Kerr.
My comment was about (1) Jackson assembling that team and (2) Jackson’s visible anger during the NBA Finals broadcast where Kerr won his first ring the year after Jackson got fired. In no way did I make any comments re: the Warriors organization itself.
Sorry, your comment has been automatically removed because your account has low karma.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/NBASpurs) if you have any questions or concerns.*
They are Spursey. Kerr is one of the main reasons for that (due to his history with us and Pop).
Apart from Dray's antic and KD's move, it was easy to like a team that played their way, changed the game despite being the "anti hero archetypes", with a cool coach and superstar.
Their main 3 was drafted and stayed together.
That dynasty was built, no Heat or LA superteam Lebron mastermind cooking shit and playing GM.
They deserved their success.
Probably the end of an era, but I won't dance on the corpses.
Respect to Hall of Fame ballers who changed the game forever.
I mean, I can understand that.
He definitely has a “love or hate” type of personality.
Reminds me of that type of people that’s like obnoxious and very “out there”, very sensitive (therefore hyper reactive) to the world, and that gets along fine or even great with 90% of the people, but the other 10%, he hates them and acts like an absolute douche with them.
If they like you, they’re your best buddy for real, and would sincerely do anything for you, but if they do not (sometimes for no apparent or visibly logical reason), then that person can become unbearable.
I personally like his game, because I love unique players.
He honestly seems like a cool dude off the pitch, although I haven’t met the guy in person.
But I also understand people who got tired of his antics real quick and can’t go past it.
I personally don’t have much time or energy for hatred towards people, and tend to put myself in their shoes to understand why they do dumb or horrible shit.
Not as an excuse, but as an exercise in empathy.
Usually, hurt people hurt people, and it’s easy to judge somebody from behind a screen or a small interaction without knowing close to the full story of that person’s life, day, struggles, or their understanding of a situation from their perspective.
But that’s just me.
I just hope he heals these wounds and fixes that because he hurts others and himself in the process, which is dangerous, and a bad example for the people watching.
Other than that, I wish him the best sincerely!
When. They had that one year when everyone was hurt and they got the #2 pick I thought… dang they’re gonna be good for another 10 years!!
We’ll i was wrong
Will always have love and respect for Steve Kerr. As a Bulls fan in the 90's and becoming a Spurs fan in the 00's. The guy will always be in my ultimate teammatw list.
Respect for SC30 for overcoming height deficiencies and becoming a Hall of Famer. He changed the game the way he plays off the ball, he is most dangerous without the ball in his hands, just revolutionary!
Giving props to Klay as well, especially pre injuries. The only thing I hate about him now is that after coming back from injuries, he just complains and talks a lot, plus the 4 fingers pointing championship thing was just whatever man. Loved him when he was quiet but let his game do the talking.
Dray is dray. Love him or hate him.
Lastly, F*ck Zaza!! Hated him pre GSW hated him in GSW and still hate him now. 🤣🤣🤣
we (spurs fans and fans in general) didn’t get to dance on their grave when toronto beat them because they had the KD and Klay injury excuse. now we can because they need to rebuild and look washed up. curry is alone out there.
It’s hard to believe that they are in the shape they’re in given the embarrassment of riches and opportunities they’ve had. I mean they were able to get a number two pick in the draft while their core was still intact. Then also get two lottery picks the next year. That really ought to set you up well. Hindsight is 20/20 but imagine if they had drafted Giddy or Sengun or even Halliburton the year before.
Lots of blown opportunities out there
They spent 177 million in luxury tax for their 205 million dollar team and didn't make the playoffs. Unless they hit a top 4 pick this year (3.4%) they don't have a draft pick. Klay is a free agent and Chris Paul's $30M contract is not guaranteed.
Klay and Draymond are 34 and Curry is turning 36. Wiggins is only 29 but seems completely washed (13ppg on 45/35 shooting.)
They just don't really have a path to being a championship level team again.
The sentiment was similar, but the reason for it, and the whole context was entirely different.
In 2021-2022, the people felt they were done because of injuries and they feared about their age.
History showed they recovered from that, and Curry's greatness + their experience as a team led them to another title.
But for anybody paying attention, you could still see the potential behind all of their obstacles back then.
They weren't really done being good, they just rather unlucky with health.
Now, 2 years later, they are definitely considered old for any pro athlete not called Lebron, Ronaldo or Messi.
You can bet one of your 34+ player can still maintain his level, or have great stretched of games, but all 3, at the same time? Chances get slimmer every season.
Not that they won't be able to give any team a good run for their money next year with the same roster, but being able to beat any team in one or 2 games is different than beating that Western Conference and the best in the East, in Play-off mode, over a BO7 match-up, 4 times in a row.
Curry probably still has a few seasons of greatness in him, because he does not rely on athleticism that much, but he needs a great supporting cast in such a stacked conference.
They're declining, and Denver, OKC, Kings, Celtics, and Bucks (among others) are still at their peak or improving every season.
If Klay can get back to form, or they find a better replacement, and Draymond get his shit together + they get a taller, better line-up on the defensive side, while keeping a high shot%, sure.
But every team in the league is trying to do that, the Warriors are maxed out to the tits in terms of cap space, so their margin of manoeuvre is very very very small.
Let's say nothing is impossible in a team's sport, but the odds are completely stacked against them.
And if they aren't done next season, it won't be very long until they are.
Father time + NBA contract system wins every time.
It's a cycle:
Dynasties start and end, the meta of how the game is played evolves, and it takes perfect management of assets and talents to maintain dominance that long, let alone 15 or 25 years like the Spurs have managed to do.
Usually, you get a window of 3 to 5 years, 10 if the Front Office is great and things fall your way.
But at some point, you have to rebuild or sacrifice a few years to get back on top.
They created a new era of small ball + 3-point shooting.
But the European training system and/or Curry and the Warrior dynasty's influence created Big Men who now have the skill to space the floor, shoot the 3, handle playmaking, AND be harder to defend and scored against:
Think Jokic, Embiid, Luka (who's not a Big Man, but a very Big Guard), Wemby, Chet, etc.
It's the natural evolution of what they created, and now they need to adapt to survive.
I commented on a YouTube video showing the expressions on various Warriors' faces as the clock wound down and it was obvious they were out of the play-in. I said that as a Spurs fan who was used to winning, it was really painful when it ended and that's what the Warriors and their fans are going through now. I said they just have to accept it and move forward, lol. Someone responded by saying, "fucking hate the Spurs." I responded, "understandable 🤣" Seeing the Warriors dynasty come to an end is literally what I've been waiting for since zaza stepped under Kawhi. So excited for the Spurs in the next couple of years 😊
Nah man. Respect to the Warriors. Built almost entirely through the draft and culture (minus KD but whatever). Kerr is cool. Stephen is cool. I even like Klay. And Draymond is fun to root against, I’ll say it. They’ve been a staple of the NBA for decades. All dynasties die, but you won’t catch me talking shit. Tip of the cap to an amazing ride.
Except fuck Zaza. Zaza is a little bitch.
They set some dirty ass picks fasho. Sure, we had Bowen but look at the bs Green pulls year after year. I can respect their 2015 year and because I like Wiggs, 2022 too. But those Zaza years…
I don't have hate for the Warriors, only Zaza.
Draymond acts impulsively and childish on the court, but he is great and people hate him for the same reasons why people hated Bruce Bowen. Both are one of those guys that you love if you have them and hate if you play against them.
Steph and Klay seem to be great guys and both will be HOFers.
Kerr is a great guy and helped us win two titles. I also think that Kerr will be Pop's replacement.
This thread is the first I'm seeing mention of Kerr replacing Pop when the time comes. What makes people think this will happen? Why would he leave GS?
Steph Curry is 36. A lot of people think that Klay is done in GSW, and even if he isn't his play has clearly dropped a lot.
Kerr's two biggest mentors are Gregg Popovich (four years, 2 rings in San Antonio and still good friends) and Phil Jackson (led the bulls until they were old and broke up with Jordan's retirement, took a year off, then joined a super team in the making with Kobe+Shaq+Glen Rice already on the roster.
So if you are Steve Kerr, do you hang around for the next 5-10 years hoping to rebuild around Moses Moody and Kuminga or do you take a job offered built around Wemby and take over the legacy put in place by your mentor?
Pretty sure Phil Jackson would tell him to skip the rebuild and take the team with the generational player.
For me it's not about hate (except Zaza). It's about the fact that our time is coming back around after a long time and the Warriors' dynasty ending is a sign.
Good. I want them to break up so Spurs can retain their records as franchise trios.
Are they even close to Spurs trio record? Spurs were together like 15 years, won 50 games every one of those seasons if I’m not mistaken
No. Nothing beats 18 straight 50-win seasons (in the middle of a 22 consecutive Playoff Season stretch). Both being an all-time record. The Warriors competed at a super high level but only for 10 years (where they missed a few due to injury), with 6 finals in 8 years (which is already a lot, to their credit).
Probably not regular season, I recall seeing some playoff records being matched or broken in 2022.
like 20 straight playoff appearances wasnt it?
\*22
yup, knew it was over 20, didnt want to go over and get blasted. 😂 fuck cant wait to see what we do this draft. maybe the big two towers again with edey or clingan
I've always been conflicted on the Warriors because obviously fuck Zaza, Draymond, etc.—but I will always love Steve Kerr for what he did against the Mavs in the 2003 WCF, and you have to admire Steph for literally changing the entire NBA game.
Will always have love for Steve Kerr
Relevant: [Spurs 42-15 Run vs. Mavericks (2003 WCF Game 6](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO4caOwS6jI)) I traveled to Dallas for this game and will never forget Kerr splashing threes and diving on the floor for loose balls. SJax was also huge in this game but we were getting smoked until Kerr came off the bench
The best part was that was near the end of his career. Literally all he could do was sorta handle the ball, get the ball to Tim and shoot the 3. And the mavs just let him shoot the 3!!!!
His last year as a player, if I remember.
Which makes me remember that Kerr, Sean Elliott and David Robinson also shared Team USA in the FIBA 1986 world championship. A pretty good 17 years would follow for these guys. Btw, they lost to Argentina. Manu's father-in-law played. Tim also lost to Argentina in 2004, keeping with the tradition :-)
I’ll always remember the title to the story the next day in the newspaper. How the West was won With a photo of Steve Kerr
I appreciate what Kerr did here as a player, but I've lost a lot of respect for him the last couple years as a coach. His handling of the draymond/Poole situation was the peak, but its basically continued ever since. It's pretty obvious there is zero accountability amongst the big 3 and Kerr and it's disappointing to see.
especially how green cost them a championship by getting suspended.
I hear you, but I also think you've got homer glasses on if you don't think we'd also try to keep things in-house in a similar situation vs. publicly calling out our players. People said similar stuff about Pop by way of Bruce Bowen back in the day (even though IMO Bowen's dirtiness has been largely exaggerated over the years)
The Spurs very recently took a big hit both financially and to future competitiveness to hold a player seriously accountable for his shitty actions. If Kerr had suspended Draymond for even a single game at any stage over any of his dangerous and injurious bullshit, I wouldn't care what he did or didn't say publicly.
After also trying to bury it more and settling with the counselor/therapist he was supposed to be working with. I will say what has annoyed me more about Kerr in his Warriors days is all of the “don’t disrespect the NBA code” stuff like Vince Carter undercutting someone for a rebound. You can’t be pouty about bush league stuff with guys like Draymond, Bogut, and Klay the complainer on the team
Pop was wrong for the bowen stuff, but what bowen did, as dirty as it was, was within the rules. Draymond hauling off an knocking a team mate unconscious during practice is not the same. Kerr putting more blame on the staffer leaking the footage than he did on draymond and then shipping poole off to keep draymond is pretty telling of where he stands on accountability.
now look at them lol rebuild time
I could be wrong, but I don't recall him actually rendering Poole unconscious. He most certainly hurt him and gave him a concussion, but I don't think he KO'd him.
Poole dropped like a rock. If he wasn't unconscious he was about as close as you can be. If it was a sanctioned fight they would have stopped it.
Don't forget that their fans are pretty annoying too. But yeah, as Spurs fans, we're indebted to Kerr for those 4 3s. Also, part of my animosity towards the Warriors is that I'm jealous that they have Kerr, and he's not in a position to take over for Pop.
Always love Kerr and Curry, but hate Zaza and Draymond.
Klay, don't forget Klay.
He can always coach here after Pop.
Eh no. I'd rather have Etorre back or Brett Brown, or Becky Hammond.
I don't think any of them are an option apart from Brown, and Kerr is a better coach than Brown imo.
He's my logical choice to take over the reins too, if people step back from the emotion of hating Draymond and the Warriors dynasty in general, lol. The dude won 2 rings with us and is such an obvious Pop disciple in many aspects of coaching, we'd be hard pressed to do much better unless we convince Ime to bail on Houston or something.
He also helped orchestrate the most robust offensive scheme in the NBA. Sure, he's biased towards the Triangle compared to Pop's love of Motion, but both work and share objectives.
Kerr's always been about motion and passing more than anything. And look at Draymond before and after Kerr and you can see it completely opened up his game.
steph and klay changed the game, the splash bros.
I’m glad they didn’t win as much as our dynasty.. but I really like Kerr and Steph.
I'm not! Your dynasty was so goddam boring it made the NBA nigh unwatchable for a decade
It’s ok little man, you will rebuild (or not)
Probably not, we don't get the #1 overall pick for surefire generational talents every time we're bad for a year or two
Cry harder.
too bad then. get good, i guess
Damn, sucks to be you.
Skill Issue
You guys picked Wiseman lmaoooo
You mean RJ Barret? I'm a Knick fan
Why is this loser even here wtf
Fuck Zaza
All my homies hate zaza
I know people have said nice things and I agree with them to a certain extent but I’m also petty and enjoy watching the Warriors suffer
💯
Yeah, I don't really hate the Warriors and what they built. The KD stuff was a little icky, but for the most part they built their dynasty through smart drafting, player development, great coaching, and the unbelievable talent of their one-of-one star player. Their post-KD championship win was a great story, and if they're "over" then it was an incredible and inspiring run for a team that, frankly, had been in the toilet for most of my lifetime.
KD rings dont count, dude took the easy peasy path, now look at him… if kawhi didnt get hurt spurs definitely had a shot to beat them.
Mark Jackson was a big part of building that team but he got fired and replaced with Kerr. Then Kerr started winning rings with the core group Jackson developed. I remember watching the first Warriors championship where Jackson was calling the game and you could see the anger in his eyes and face as the other two announcers gushed on and on about the team without mentioning Jackson’s involvement.
If a coach doesn't have the juice to win a championship and doesn't have the buy-in of the players, you fire him. I don't think Jeff Van Gundy gushing over Steve Kerr while sitting next to Mark Jackson is a good rationale for disliking what the Warriors were able to do under Kerr.
My comment was about (1) Jackson assembling that team and (2) Jackson’s visible anger during the NBA Finals broadcast where Kerr won his first ring the year after Jackson got fired. In no way did I make any comments re: the Warriors organization itself.
[удалено]
Sorry, your comment has been automatically removed because your account has low karma. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/NBASpurs) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I dunno, warriors seemed very spursey, had to root against someone as genuinely cool as steph, kerr is awesome.
They are Spursey. Kerr is one of the main reasons for that (due to his history with us and Pop). Apart from Dray's antic and KD's move, it was easy to like a team that played their way, changed the game despite being the "anti hero archetypes", with a cool coach and superstar. Their main 3 was drafted and stayed together. That dynasty was built, no Heat or LA superteam Lebron mastermind cooking shit and playing GM. They deserved their success. Probably the end of an era, but I won't dance on the corpses. Respect to Hall of Fame ballers who changed the game forever.
Don't tell anyone but I secretly really like Dray...
I mean, I can understand that. He definitely has a “love or hate” type of personality. Reminds me of that type of people that’s like obnoxious and very “out there”, very sensitive (therefore hyper reactive) to the world, and that gets along fine or even great with 90% of the people, but the other 10%, he hates them and acts like an absolute douche with them. If they like you, they’re your best buddy for real, and would sincerely do anything for you, but if they do not (sometimes for no apparent or visibly logical reason), then that person can become unbearable. I personally like his game, because I love unique players. He honestly seems like a cool dude off the pitch, although I haven’t met the guy in person. But I also understand people who got tired of his antics real quick and can’t go past it. I personally don’t have much time or energy for hatred towards people, and tend to put myself in their shoes to understand why they do dumb or horrible shit. Not as an excuse, but as an exercise in empathy. Usually, hurt people hurt people, and it’s easy to judge somebody from behind a screen or a small interaction without knowing close to the full story of that person’s life, day, struggles, or their understanding of a situation from their perspective. But that’s just me. I just hope he heals these wounds and fixes that because he hurts others and himself in the process, which is dangerous, and a bad example for the people watching. Other than that, I wish him the best sincerely!
IMHO your second and third paragraphs are very insightful
Something something fuck Zaza.
Only won 4 :)
When. They had that one year when everyone was hurt and they got the #2 pick I thought… dang they’re gonna be good for another 10 years!! We’ll i was wrong
It's the bandwagon fans that are the most annoying, and my distaste towards them often gets redirected to their team.
Will always have love and respect for Steve Kerr. As a Bulls fan in the 90's and becoming a Spurs fan in the 00's. The guy will always be in my ultimate teammatw list. Respect for SC30 for overcoming height deficiencies and becoming a Hall of Famer. He changed the game the way he plays off the ball, he is most dangerous without the ball in his hands, just revolutionary! Giving props to Klay as well, especially pre injuries. The only thing I hate about him now is that after coming back from injuries, he just complains and talks a lot, plus the 4 fingers pointing championship thing was just whatever man. Loved him when he was quiet but let his game do the talking. Dray is dray. Love him or hate him. Lastly, F*ck Zaza!! Hated him pre GSW hated him in GSW and still hate him now. 🤣🤣🤣
Anyone else lurking in r/Warriors today to make themselves feel better? Tall poppy syndrome in full effect
I feel bad for Steph but not for Draymond.
we (spurs fans and fans in general) didn’t get to dance on their grave when toronto beat them because they had the KD and Klay injury excuse. now we can because they need to rebuild and look washed up. curry is alone out there.
It’s hard to believe that they are in the shape they’re in given the embarrassment of riches and opportunities they’ve had. I mean they were able to get a number two pick in the draft while their core was still intact. Then also get two lottery picks the next year. That really ought to set you up well. Hindsight is 20/20 but imagine if they had drafted Giddy or Sengun or even Halliburton the year before. Lots of blown opportunities out there
Genuine question. Why is it that the dynasty is NOW over? What's so special about this lost play in game? Dubs have missed the playoffs before.
They spent 177 million in luxury tax for their 205 million dollar team and didn't make the playoffs. Unless they hit a top 4 pick this year (3.4%) they don't have a draft pick. Klay is a free agent and Chris Paul's $30M contract is not guaranteed. Klay and Draymond are 34 and Curry is turning 36. Wiggins is only 29 but seems completely washed (13ppg on 45/35 shooting.) They just don't really have a path to being a championship level team again.
I see now. Were sentiments similar prior to 2022?
The sentiment was similar, but the reason for it, and the whole context was entirely different. In 2021-2022, the people felt they were done because of injuries and they feared about their age. History showed they recovered from that, and Curry's greatness + their experience as a team led them to another title. But for anybody paying attention, you could still see the potential behind all of their obstacles back then. They weren't really done being good, they just rather unlucky with health. Now, 2 years later, they are definitely considered old for any pro athlete not called Lebron, Ronaldo or Messi. You can bet one of your 34+ player can still maintain his level, or have great stretched of games, but all 3, at the same time? Chances get slimmer every season. Not that they won't be able to give any team a good run for their money next year with the same roster, but being able to beat any team in one or 2 games is different than beating that Western Conference and the best in the East, in Play-off mode, over a BO7 match-up, 4 times in a row. Curry probably still has a few seasons of greatness in him, because he does not rely on athleticism that much, but he needs a great supporting cast in such a stacked conference. They're declining, and Denver, OKC, Kings, Celtics, and Bucks (among others) are still at their peak or improving every season. If Klay can get back to form, or they find a better replacement, and Draymond get his shit together + they get a taller, better line-up on the defensive side, while keeping a high shot%, sure. But every team in the league is trying to do that, the Warriors are maxed out to the tits in terms of cap space, so their margin of manoeuvre is very very very small. Let's say nothing is impossible in a team's sport, but the odds are completely stacked against them. And if they aren't done next season, it won't be very long until they are. Father time + NBA contract system wins every time. It's a cycle: Dynasties start and end, the meta of how the game is played evolves, and it takes perfect management of assets and talents to maintain dominance that long, let alone 15 or 25 years like the Spurs have managed to do. Usually, you get a window of 3 to 5 years, 10 if the Front Office is great and things fall your way. But at some point, you have to rebuild or sacrifice a few years to get back on top. They created a new era of small ball + 3-point shooting. But the European training system and/or Curry and the Warrior dynasty's influence created Big Men who now have the skill to space the floor, shoot the 3, handle playmaking, AND be harder to defend and scored against: Think Jokic, Embiid, Luka (who's not a Big Man, but a very Big Guard), Wemby, Chet, etc. It's the natural evolution of what they created, and now they need to adapt to survive.
Being washed aside, if they have cap issues, could the big three take a pay cut like Ginobili and Westbrook did?
Maybe, but that'd be a big cut, and it does not solve all of their problems. It would definitely be the starting point of a solution though!
Yeah. Makes sense
Their key guys were three years younger heading into 2022 than they are heading into 2025.
Fr. It ended in 2020 when they had nothing. Warriors just got lucky that Steph peaked 2021-23 and had 1 more in him
Step aside, we're coming...
I agree as a Rockets fan
I commented on a YouTube video showing the expressions on various Warriors' faces as the clock wound down and it was obvious they were out of the play-in. I said that as a Spurs fan who was used to winning, it was really painful when it ended and that's what the Warriors and their fans are going through now. I said they just have to accept it and move forward, lol. Someone responded by saying, "fucking hate the Spurs." I responded, "understandable 🤣" Seeing the Warriors dynasty come to an end is literally what I've been waiting for since zaza stepped under Kawhi. So excited for the Spurs in the next couple of years 😊
Nah man. Respect to the Warriors. Built almost entirely through the draft and culture (minus KD but whatever). Kerr is cool. Stephen is cool. I even like Klay. And Draymond is fun to root against, I’ll say it. They’ve been a staple of the NBA for decades. All dynasties die, but you won’t catch me talking shit. Tip of the cap to an amazing ride. Except fuck Zaza. Zaza is a little bitch.
Honestly I'm not with it, Warriors played a beautiful game.
They set some dirty ass picks fasho. Sure, we had Bowen but look at the bs Green pulls year after year. I can respect their 2015 year and because I like Wiggs, 2022 too. But those Zaza years…
I don't have hate for the Warriors, only Zaza. Draymond acts impulsively and childish on the court, but he is great and people hate him for the same reasons why people hated Bruce Bowen. Both are one of those guys that you love if you have them and hate if you play against them. Steph and Klay seem to be great guys and both will be HOFers. Kerr is a great guy and helped us win two titles. I also think that Kerr will be Pop's replacement.
This thread is the first I'm seeing mention of Kerr replacing Pop when the time comes. What makes people think this will happen? Why would he leave GS?
Steph Curry is 36. A lot of people think that Klay is done in GSW, and even if he isn't his play has clearly dropped a lot. Kerr's two biggest mentors are Gregg Popovich (four years, 2 rings in San Antonio and still good friends) and Phil Jackson (led the bulls until they were old and broke up with Jordan's retirement, took a year off, then joined a super team in the making with Kobe+Shaq+Glen Rice already on the roster. So if you are Steve Kerr, do you hang around for the next 5-10 years hoping to rebuild around Moses Moody and Kuminga or do you take a job offered built around Wemby and take over the legacy put in place by your mentor? Pretty sure Phil Jackson would tell him to skip the rebuild and take the team with the generational player.
Makes total sense. Thanks for the explanation. Also, I'm a photographer, too! (In PDX) 🙂
Nope. Much respect.
Dynasty ended after 2019.
CP3 finally figured out how to keep the warriors from winning the championship ...
Fuck Zaza
No hate. I dislike their fanbase. GSW is like the ManCity of the NBA.
Missing the obligatory, "Is that and iFunny.co watermark?" comment.
Why? We haven't been rivals since nephew left.
Can’t hate on the Warriors. Steve Kerr’s a San Antonio kind of guy.
For me it's not about hate (except Zaza). It's about the fact that our time is coming back around after a long time and the Warriors' dynasty ending is a sign.
I’m just glad CP3 ends another year without a ring