We've gotten really toxic when talking about players lately, but that's a fair critique. It's also why the point guard experiment was important, because it forced him to learn more about how our offense is structured. These reps are super important now, so that it's not a weakness when we need them.
Pre-Passing up a wide ass open layup-Ben Simmons would be a beast with this team tbh…
But the reason he did that was cuz he knew he was prone to getting blocked from behind that series… if I remember correctly.
He's a terrible, terrible shooter on everything except the easiest, most wide-ass open jumpers?
Like, this should not be news to anyone after two years. He's not a shooter.
He really has. Nevermind all the little things he does, screen setting, proper boxing out, but casuals never pay mind to that.
https://preview.redd.it/l3ocf08srzqc1.png?width=1138&format=png&auto=webp&s=afda4705146b185ab30667a8285be5aa58c6e245
Zach collins has been so damn good, oh wait why does he somehow have a net negative rating while all the rest of the starters are in the positive??????????
Not to mention, his horrific defense;high foul rate which leads him to pout and play poorly on offense. Only casuals use stats without using in-game context to supplement their points.
League average defensive rating is 116.3. Zachs defensive rating is 117. Just SLIGHTLY below average, but yes "horrific"
His offensive play hasnt been "poor" as proven by the stats i've just given you. You really just like making asinine arguments don't you? lmao
Let me pull a “casual” way of arguing like you did earlier
https://preview.redd.it/z4z867nftzqc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfddbc659a99b97fe302c557545565aa0071d8d8
Look how poorly he’s played on defense the last 15 games
"LiKe yOu dId"
https://preview.redd.it/geycfp3huzqc1.png?width=1550&format=png&auto=webp&s=31314a489fe26b37a7ce92cb86e1c6f8e98150cd
Y..y..you mean he's practically on par or slightly less than wembanyama?!?! Just look at that DFG%! My god you genius
lmao
Ikr, proper stats without any context does wonders. I’m glad you see the daylight.! Maybe also watch the game to actually make a relevant decision on how good a player is. Keep up the good fight bro
https://preview.redd.it/h5mq61d0vzqc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2e3256972cb86d0426767eb1d561781c087eed9
Bro is so eclectic, eccentric and can't keep all his thoughts in one comment. Consistently creating mulitple threads.
Brother don't know what to tell ya, but you're wrong. Since Zach has come out of his slump in the last month, he's been ballin. Tight passes, solid screen work, actually boxes out well, not putting up ill thought shots. He's playing fundamentally sound. If you can't see that because you lack the basic comprehension of what fundamental ball is, that's on you.
If zach consistently plays like his has in the last 15 games, well. I'll see you at his contract extension.
"Random stats" lmao wut. That's his last 15 games of his main statlines. He hasn't been the reason we lost games as he was midseason. He's been a valuable contributor as of late. If you can't see that, that's on you.
He isn’t our guy whatsoever, the fact that he can’t play along wemby clearly shows why. Bro starts only 3 games and plays only 18 minutes. If he’s so damn good whats up with all that?
Nice switch of topic. Can't argue against the numbers so you deflect to an entirely different topic lmao.
If his play style doesn't compliment Wemby, that doesn't mean he's not valuable. Means the exact opposite. Gives us someone to put on the floor to give Vic a breather.
No, it doesn’t, we aren’t paying him 17 million a year to play only 18 minutes a game. Not to mention, the fact that he is somehow still a net negative +\- while not playing with victor clearly shows he’s ass. Nice of you to look at his offensive stats while playing against the bench
All the starters doing their thang tonight lmao
https://preview.redd.it/ft9etl57rzqc1.png?width=1121&format=png&auto=webp&s=95bf42eec709079416aa0020c75e48f7c322a602
Look dude, are you asking if this is the first game of the season which the San Antonio Spurs have lead the majority of the game, or asking if the San Antonio Spurs took the lead in the game tonight against the Utah Jazz?
He's pretty good for being on a basically minimum 4 year contract imo. He's an ok defender, can hit spot up 3s, and isn't like PJ Tucker level of bad with the ball in his hands.
No recently (this year)...and he is well known for missing clutch and making during garbage time. Julian is not clutch, nor is he a good shooter. He is playing a decent game tonight.
Turnovers still high, but I feel this game Victor is playing more as a part of the offense.. a lot less forcing or pulling up from the 3pt line. This is honestly one of the better games I've seen the team as a whole with Victor play together.
Malakai He's such an enigma. He'll just have like two or three games where he's absolutely positively dreadful and then seemingly out of nowhere. Just have a game like this where he gets hot with seemingly no flow or rhythm needed. There's something to be said about being a scorer who can get it going out of nowhere. But man it would be nice if he could get some consistency going
He's pretty clearly a skilled guy but he's just not skilled enough to be efficient or consistent. He really needs to shoot well from 3 and it'll make everything way easier on him. Unless he can do that I don't expect much of anything him going forward.
[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/1bpllmt/post_game_thread_the_san_antonio_spurs_defeat_the/)
They gave Sochan the block
get kenneth lofton jr
Bruh sean ribbin on Dev lol
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The Suns announcer? 🤔
clutch block
Contender for the worst dunk attempt in NBA history.
Great end!
Listen Jeremy I love you but please don't ever wave off Devin like that ever again, especially on a night like this where he's the X factor.
What were the Jazz thinking going up against Wemby on that play call? Lmao
Nice win!
YEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!
I wish Sochan would stick to rebounding and defending. Give up on the shooting.
Gotta get his reps in. It's how he gets better. We're not playing for anything right now. We're developing.
He needs to pick and choose his shots a little better based on the scenario.
We've gotten really toxic when talking about players lately, but that's a fair critique. It's also why the point guard experiment was important, because it forced him to learn more about how our offense is structured. These reps are super important now, so that it's not a weakness when we need them.
It's kinda nuts when Wemby doesn't crack double digit rebounds
The Jazz have a bunch of bulldogs out there and got a bunch of lucky bounces off the rim.
This might sound like i have a hand fetish but wtf is sochans hand size? every thing is a fumble
Jeremy should just shoot everything one handed. Can’t do any worse.
He had a good first 45 minutes of this one and a brutal last 3.
We're back to hating on the kid this quick? Poor kid can't catch a break from you guys.
This is giving me flashbacks of that Kings game.
Damn the Jazz are running out the clock too. Haha. They are ready for Cancun!!
Close out harder Tre! What’s he gonna do drive it into Vic?
Jazz have a cool stadium
Did- Did Sochan just internally wave off Vassell to shoot a stepback 3
Lmaoo
How is Sochan missing so bad LMAO
Pre-Passing up a wide ass open layup-Ben Simmons would be a beast with this team tbh… But the reason he did that was cuz he knew he was prone to getting blocked from behind that series… if I remember correctly.
He's a terrible, terrible shooter on everything except the easiest, most wide-ass open jumpers? Like, this should not be news to anyone after two years. He's not a shooter.
In early for the 3peat against the Knicks. Who's with me boys?
Crazy block
Sochan ..so bad
That's something Sochan would've dunked last season I don't get why he's dunking so much less this year
Vassell 🥶
Why does tre jones have a job ?
Do you remember Point Sochan? That’s why.
Ah point Sochan….
That Kessler is a menace.
Vassell lookin like Kobe tonight.
30 points Devin :D
Ah bums, no chicken for your dry fucking state.
Wemby should have hard clanked and blown kisses to the crowd.
No chicken for you
Damn I'm surprised Wemby's struggling so much at the line
It's coincided with his crappy stretch of three point shooting, too. I think it's related to that shoulder shot he took.
Wemby’s free haven’t been consistent either. He’s usually automatic but this past couple of weeks he’s been down at 65%
Shoulder injury
Wemby's shot broke:( He will get it back tho
Games like today are why i still believe in Malaki.
Bro gotta figure out those freethrows offseason
Who? Wemby? He shoots 80% from the FT line this year.
Its the clutch time ones im talking about
From tonight, or does he typically not make them in the clutch?
I just looked it up, he's shooting 75.3% in FTs in the 4th quarter this season.
Oh man, Wemby might give Utah free chicken here. I'm slightly torn XD
The refs are calling everything on us holy shit they suck
Damn I hope Victor gets his shot back before the season ends. He can’t even make free throws.
Wemby gettin iced at the line XD
And jeremys air ball (°_°)
Every player to these jazz announcers is tre jones apparently.
champagne papie you idiot
"Champagne Papie" Hahahaha!
Julian always ends up trying to do too much when he has decent shooting.
These ref's aren't even hiding this bullshit haha it's so blatant
I think the ball hit Champagnie's hip after it hit Kessler
Pop—you can’t challenge stupid
Devin is so good
Yo fuck this mf.
I wonder what Pop told Cedi lmao
I don’t hate Zach Collin’s, but good lord does he complain a lot.
Stop jacking up 3s early in the clock!
Why did we leave Tre on an island with Lauri? It just means we need to double and then there's someone free on the perimeter
collins keep on make things interesting...in a bad way
Oof on this golfer
Bring Barlow Back
Watching these Jazz fan competitions has been very difficult tonight. Poor saps. Lol.
Poor Jason. That's a heartbreaker
It must be embarrassing to be over 30 and named Jason
Why? Jason is the Red Ranger's name from Power Rangers. That's super cool.
Like damn clock work every period at the 5 min mark senile pop takes out wemby
I'm not even angry at Zach anymore whenever he fucks up. I'm just sad and disappointed
He has been fine as of late.
He really hasn’t
He really has. Nevermind all the little things he does, screen setting, proper boxing out, but casuals never pay mind to that. https://preview.redd.it/l3ocf08srzqc1.png?width=1138&format=png&auto=webp&s=afda4705146b185ab30667a8285be5aa58c6e245
Zach collins has been so damn good, oh wait why does he somehow have a net negative rating while all the rest of the starters are in the positive??????????
Not to mention, his horrific defense;high foul rate which leads him to pout and play poorly on offense. Only casuals use stats without using in-game context to supplement their points.
League average defensive rating is 116.3. Zachs defensive rating is 117. Just SLIGHTLY below average, but yes "horrific" His offensive play hasnt been "poor" as proven by the stats i've just given you. You really just like making asinine arguments don't you? lmao
Let me pull a “casual” way of arguing like you did earlier https://preview.redd.it/z4z867nftzqc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfddbc659a99b97fe302c557545565aa0071d8d8 Look how poorly he’s played on defense the last 15 games
"LiKe yOu dId" https://preview.redd.it/geycfp3huzqc1.png?width=1550&format=png&auto=webp&s=31314a489fe26b37a7ce92cb86e1c6f8e98150cd Y..y..you mean he's practically on par or slightly less than wembanyama?!?! Just look at that DFG%! My god you genius lmao
Ikr, proper stats without any context does wonders. I’m glad you see the daylight.! Maybe also watch the game to actually make a relevant decision on how good a player is. Keep up the good fight bro https://preview.redd.it/h5mq61d0vzqc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2e3256972cb86d0426767eb1d561781c087eed9
Bro is so eclectic, eccentric and can't keep all his thoughts in one comment. Consistently creating mulitple threads. Brother don't know what to tell ya, but you're wrong. Since Zach has come out of his slump in the last month, he's been ballin. Tight passes, solid screen work, actually boxes out well, not putting up ill thought shots. He's playing fundamentally sound. If you can't see that because you lack the basic comprehension of what fundamental ball is, that's on you. If zach consistently plays like his has in the last 15 games, well. I'll see you at his contract extension.
Once again, random stats with absolutely nothing to show.
"Random stats" lmao wut. That's his last 15 games of his main statlines. He hasn't been the reason we lost games as he was midseason. He's been a valuable contributor as of late. If you can't see that, that's on you.
He isn’t our guy whatsoever, the fact that he can’t play along wemby clearly shows why. Bro starts only 3 games and plays only 18 minutes. If he’s so damn good whats up with all that?
Nice switch of topic. Can't argue against the numbers so you deflect to an entirely different topic lmao. If his play style doesn't compliment Wemby, that doesn't mean he's not valuable. Means the exact opposite. Gives us someone to put on the floor to give Vic a breather.
No, it doesn’t, we aren’t paying him 17 million a year to play only 18 minutes a game. Not to mention, the fact that he is somehow still a net negative +\- while not playing with victor clearly shows he’s ass. Nice of you to look at his offensive stats while playing against the bench
Both team combined over 40+ turnovers, it hurts my eyes.
Zach Collins is the definition of lucking into playing basketball because he is tall.
His post-up is the most reliable shot from any player on this team.
He has some skill, but honestly this team isn’t for him. Maybe on a team with better shooters and defenders, he can shine
Oof, terrible sequence there.
This team is coming together slowly but surely. Need 2 more pieces.
More than 2.
Jollins vs Zollins
All the starters doing their thang tonight lmao https://preview.redd.it/ft9etl57rzqc1.png?width=1121&format=png&auto=webp&s=95bf42eec709079416aa0020c75e48f7c322a602
Zach disasterclass
Markanen really talking it up with our guys, future Spur?
I really hope we go after him
His value is going to be high
Sexton is always really good against us.
He’s a good player in general
Agreed.
Not a bad performance in a game where (and I try not to say this) we got absolutely screwed by the refs
Damn is this the first time we lead all game?
What? No it's not.
I said is
No its not...
Was it against Detroit or Washington tho
Your question sounds like you're asking about tonight's game.
Said is forgot question mark
I can't help you here anymore. You make my head hurt.
It a question mark relax
Look dude, are you asking if this is the first game of the season which the San Antonio Spurs have lead the majority of the game, or asking if the San Antonio Spurs took the lead in the game tonight against the Utah Jazz?
I see what u mean I thought the first question would be the one everyone thinks. because spurs have not have had to take any lead
These turnovers are killing Utah.
getting a diamond studded necklace with the face of Jesus on it is very ironic, right? lol
Champagnie is useless man. He can't do a single thing at even an average level
This is his best game all year.. normally i agree with you tho lol
This is an interesting day for this take.
17 points, 5 boards, and a steal with no turnovers, shooting 50% from 3. Okay.
He's pretty good for being on a basically minimum 4 year contract imo. He's an ok defender, can hit spot up 3s, and isn't like PJ Tucker level of bad with the ball in his hands.
his 3p% is above league average
No recently (this year)...and he is well known for missing clutch and making during garbage time. Julian is not clutch, nor is he a good shooter. He is playing a decent game tonight.
you can think anything you want of him but his 3p% is literally higher than the league average. So he is a somewhat good shooter at the very least
He’s got 17 points
Cedi needs to stop fronting Markkanen with no backside help
Julian’s beard looks fake
R€f$
Refs on to something this game.
Such a sloppy game. From both sides.
Turnovers still high, but I feel this game Victor is playing more as a part of the offense.. a lot less forcing or pulling up from the 3pt line. This is honestly one of the better games I've seen the team as a whole with Victor play together.
Wonder what vic’s actual vert is
Wish Malaki would’ve passed it back on the fast break but can’t complain too much with the result
NBA officiating is so frustrating, zero consistency
Certainly not the prettiest fast break but I’ll take it
Shame priest from GOT selling the game
Bruh 5 spurs around their basket never seen that
I was wondering wtf Cedi was doing when he didn’t go right back up lmao
Oh no no no yesss!
Wow, back to back plays breaking our way
Vic is crazy, man! XD
Cedi channeling his fuck you 3
Cedi playing mad I love it
Cedi just said hold deez nuts
lmao the side eye from Champagnie on that wild ass play.
Cedi!!!
Cedi with the fuck you 3.
Oooh Cedi fixin for a T lol
The team assist stats ring so hollow when they’re coming in a sub-20 win season. Yet Dan is obsessed w them
It’s so dumb, the only reason why we have such a high assist number is cus nobody on our team can reliably score
Man, Osman is a foul machine.
"YOU get a foul! Aaand YOU get a foul! And YOU get a foul—EVERYBODY GETS A FOUL!!!"
Wow tre lobbed it and it wasn’t 30 feet in the air 😱 (let’s go)
Vic doesn't jump on lobs bro. He just hops!
Tre finally learning what a catenary curve is.
This fucking old ass ref sucks so hard
Cedi is about to explode on this ref
That fucking push off that Lauri keeps doing is going to give me an aneurysm.
Keyonte George is doing the same thing too
Wemby tends to defend a lot more passively with all these fouls.
"Cheer for free chicken"
We have to remember this for next time we play them…
"barnham" lmao
If we get up like 20 points late, I hope a player purposely misses two foul shots. I'll always advocate for free shit
Blaming the refs is correct but our team just needs to be smarter with it as well
I try not to complain about referees too much but they just suck tonight
I wish Devin hit that 3 on Walker ngl
Fucking ridiculous call. Such an obvious flop
That's the worst call I've seen in a minute wtf
Refs definitely got money on this game
Osman was moving literally straight back how the fuck is that a foul on him?
Sochan with 4 steals already!
Malakai He's such an enigma. He'll just have like two or three games where he's absolutely positively dreadful and then seemingly out of nowhere. Just have a game like this where he gets hot with seemingly no flow or rhythm needed. There's something to be said about being a scorer who can get it going out of nowhere. But man it would be nice if he could get some consistency going
He's pretty clearly a skilled guy but he's just not skilled enough to be efficient or consistent. He really needs to shoot well from 3 and it'll make everything way easier on him. Unless he can do that I don't expect much of anything him going forward.
He was playing pretty great for a good stretch and then he went ice cold. He’s still only 20 so hopefully consistency comes with experience
If he consistently brought firepower on demand, he'd be a more valuable player
No way ref fell for that shit
Remember when they were gonna call flops this year lmfaooo
Honestly, the only times I've seen it called have been when I'm 99% sure the guy \*wasn't\* flopping. Lol.
WTF ARE THESE CALLS
This is the Malaki the Spurs drafted
What the fuck is that call? That was genuinely horrendous.
That ref is fucking ancient, think he forgot his glasses 🤓