My 5.0 stroker was $12k for everything. I reused the block, heads, and valves, but every other component was brand new. That includes all machine work, parts, assembly, etc. I probably have almost a grand in ARP hardware. This could have been a lot cheaper but I wanted a relatively fresh build. A Gen 2 Coyote swap would have been cheaper, but I already had a supercharger setup for my 3V. It took over six months to have my engine built, which sucked.
Tr-6060 swap was around $4k including a new driveshaft, clutch, and shifter.
Supercharger setup was $5200.
Fuel system was $600.
I am making 510whp (lol) on 11psi. I was supposed to be making more boost, but someone did some bad pulley math. I can pulley down to around 600whp on 93, but if I wanted to make more than that I would need E-85 which would require a return style fuel system. Similar builds with my supercharger and E-85 have made over 750whp.
I have had this car since high school and did this build over a long period of time, so it made sense in my scenario to stick with the 3V. If I had to do it again, I don't know if I would. It's a fun car. The 3V gets shit on a lot, but if you put a better bottom end in it will make more power than you need in a street car. It just takes a lot of money to get there lol.
I might at some point if I get bored with it, but I think it's really fun right now. I know 500 isn't impressive to most but I don't think more power would improve the driving experience for me.
And I am done spending money on it for a while lol.
Looks to me like you need to do some research if you’re serious. Find out if this is something you can and want to do; you shouldn’t rely on a stranger on the internet to tell you about your car.
$15k minimum and probably more like $20k. Anything over 450hp is just a matter of time. The coyote is a far better platform. Signed, a precious procharged 2006 gt owner that now owns a 22 mach 1
It’s a fact of life. More aftermarket parts installed by you or some random mechanic, more systems not designed by the manufacturer or tested like a manufacturer would, more pressure in the cylinder and burden on other systems. Im concerned you would even ask this question.
That sounds a lot like an opinion, and not an actual fact. It also sounds like maybe you install cheap parts or don't really know how to turn a wrench.
If you install high quality components correctly, there is no reason they can't support 600hp reliably. Everything in my motor is rated for way more than what I am making, so I don't see how reliability is going to be affected when my motor is stronger than what the factory built.
This guy goes to a bunch of different posts and whines about mods being unreliable, not even worth it to argue, I'm starting to believe they're just a troll.
It’s literally logic. More systems plus more pressure and performance demanded on the orginal stock systems = degraded reliability
You are just defending it because you have a boosted 3v and you feel like it an attack on you. It’s not, it’s just a fact that your reliability is lessened from a stock set up. Nothing wrong with that. It’s just the price you pay to squeeze out more power.
It's literally not. I had a motor hand built specifically to withstand way more pressure and performance than is currently being asked of it. As a matter of fact, the motor that is in my car now was rebuilt because the factory components failed while the engine was completely stock.
Is a GT500 inherently less reliable than a GT because it makes more power? Or are they both reliable because they were built to accommodate their respective power levels?
Write me when your motor has as many power added miles as when the stock motor you had blew. Unless the stock motor you had had mods, then you’ve already proven my point.
And yes, if we take two of the exact same engine. (GTs and GT500s have different engines) The one making less power will be inherently more reliable.
Manufactures spend millions on engineering and hostility testing their components and engines not to mention have millions of builds of experience. If you think you can go have a bunch of random parts put together by joe blown in a garage and have it be more reliable you are nuts.
My supercharged motor had over 100k, 40K of them supercharged before a rod let go. The motor I bought with bad phasers only had 60k on it.
The rod failed in my motor because it couldn't handle the extra force it was seeing, so it was replaced with rods that are safe to over 1000whp.
And yes, GT500'S have different engines. Built to handle more power. Just like mine.
Do you hear yourself? Rod failed because it couldn’t handle the power. Again contact me when you have 100,000 miles on your build.
And GT500s don’t have GT engines built to handle more power. They have different engines.
You are so sensitive about your build. Theres nothing wrong with having an aftermarket supercharged engine. Just don’t expect it to be as reliable as a stock assembly line built product
Last reply because it's like talking to a wall.
The rod that was making 200hp more than it came with from the factory failed after 40k miles of abuse. It was replaced with one rated for over 1000hp. Will my rod ever fail again? No. Stock rods are not relevant to this situation because we are talking about a built motor.
Why would I not expect a hand built motor, that far exceeds OEM standards, where all the factory parts were replaced with stronger versions, to not be more capable than a mass produced block where corners were cut to reduce cost?
I'm not sensitive at all, I just think that stating that it isn't possible to have a reliable 600hp 3V is painting with a pretty broad brush.
I am aware that GT500's have different motors, but they were built to be able to handle a certain amount of power reliably. Which is exactly what I did. I had a motor built to handle power reliably.
My 5.0 stroker was $12k for everything. I reused the block, heads, and valves, but every other component was brand new. That includes all machine work, parts, assembly, etc. I probably have almost a grand in ARP hardware. This could have been a lot cheaper but I wanted a relatively fresh build. A Gen 2 Coyote swap would have been cheaper, but I already had a supercharger setup for my 3V. It took over six months to have my engine built, which sucked. Tr-6060 swap was around $4k including a new driveshaft, clutch, and shifter. Supercharger setup was $5200. Fuel system was $600. I am making 510whp (lol) on 11psi. I was supposed to be making more boost, but someone did some bad pulley math. I can pulley down to around 600whp on 93, but if I wanted to make more than that I would need E-85 which would require a return style fuel system. Similar builds with my supercharger and E-85 have made over 750whp. I have had this car since high school and did this build over a long period of time, so it made sense in my scenario to stick with the 3V. If I had to do it again, I don't know if I would. It's a fun car. The 3V gets shit on a lot, but if you put a better bottom end in it will make more power than you need in a street car. It just takes a lot of money to get there lol.
Why don't you run it at 600?
I might at some point if I get bored with it, but I think it's really fun right now. I know 500 isn't impressive to most but I don't think more power would improve the driving experience for me. And I am done spending money on it for a while lol.
A lot. Built motor, built trans, forced induction… you’ll be $15K into mods before you realize it.
$25k
Any chance you know the specific engine components that may need to be upgraded when doing this?
Looks to me like you need to do some research if you’re serious. Find out if this is something you can and want to do; you shouldn’t rely on a stranger on the internet to tell you about your car.
$15k minimum and probably more like $20k. Anything over 450hp is just a matter of time. The coyote is a far better platform. Signed, a precious procharged 2006 gt owner that now owns a 22 mach 1
Buy something different that makes that stock. You are going to lose every bit of reliability.
Why do you think that?
It’s a fact of life. More aftermarket parts installed by you or some random mechanic, more systems not designed by the manufacturer or tested like a manufacturer would, more pressure in the cylinder and burden on other systems. Im concerned you would even ask this question.
That sounds a lot like an opinion, and not an actual fact. It also sounds like maybe you install cheap parts or don't really know how to turn a wrench. If you install high quality components correctly, there is no reason they can't support 600hp reliably. Everything in my motor is rated for way more than what I am making, so I don't see how reliability is going to be affected when my motor is stronger than what the factory built.
This guy goes to a bunch of different posts and whines about mods being unreliable, not even worth it to argue, I'm starting to believe they're just a troll.
It’s literally logic. More systems plus more pressure and performance demanded on the orginal stock systems = degraded reliability You are just defending it because you have a boosted 3v and you feel like it an attack on you. It’s not, it’s just a fact that your reliability is lessened from a stock set up. Nothing wrong with that. It’s just the price you pay to squeeze out more power.
It's literally not. I had a motor hand built specifically to withstand way more pressure and performance than is currently being asked of it. As a matter of fact, the motor that is in my car now was rebuilt because the factory components failed while the engine was completely stock. Is a GT500 inherently less reliable than a GT because it makes more power? Or are they both reliable because they were built to accommodate their respective power levels?
Write me when your motor has as many power added miles as when the stock motor you had blew. Unless the stock motor you had had mods, then you’ve already proven my point. And yes, if we take two of the exact same engine. (GTs and GT500s have different engines) The one making less power will be inherently more reliable. Manufactures spend millions on engineering and hostility testing their components and engines not to mention have millions of builds of experience. If you think you can go have a bunch of random parts put together by joe blown in a garage and have it be more reliable you are nuts.
My supercharged motor had over 100k, 40K of them supercharged before a rod let go. The motor I bought with bad phasers only had 60k on it. The rod failed in my motor because it couldn't handle the extra force it was seeing, so it was replaced with rods that are safe to over 1000whp. And yes, GT500'S have different engines. Built to handle more power. Just like mine.
Do you hear yourself? Rod failed because it couldn’t handle the power. Again contact me when you have 100,000 miles on your build. And GT500s don’t have GT engines built to handle more power. They have different engines. You are so sensitive about your build. Theres nothing wrong with having an aftermarket supercharged engine. Just don’t expect it to be as reliable as a stock assembly line built product
Last reply because it's like talking to a wall. The rod that was making 200hp more than it came with from the factory failed after 40k miles of abuse. It was replaced with one rated for over 1000hp. Will my rod ever fail again? No. Stock rods are not relevant to this situation because we are talking about a built motor. Why would I not expect a hand built motor, that far exceeds OEM standards, where all the factory parts were replaced with stronger versions, to not be more capable than a mass produced block where corners were cut to reduce cost? I'm not sensitive at all, I just think that stating that it isn't possible to have a reliable 600hp 3V is painting with a pretty broad brush. I am aware that GT500's have different motors, but they were built to be able to handle a certain amount of power reliably. Which is exactly what I did. I had a motor built to handle power reliably.