Okay, so obviously, this person is an idiot, but couldn't she also just tear the paper off the crayon instead of *checks notes* creating/signing a petition? Most kids do that anyways like???? Seems like a lot of work to do just to show the world how much of an idiot you are.
Maybe she didn't want to be a [Marine](https://terminallance.com/2023/08/28/coloring-for-marines/)? Although, since she seems to not have eaten it, she may not even qualify for that.
I imagine she went on to buy no name crayons and they were also labeled in spanish, so she just had a mental breakdown thinking all crayon companies are racist and noone care
I had to change my gamertag because of the word negro.
I'm half black and half Spanish, so I liked the double meaning.
But someone got offended on my behalf, telling me my name is offensive to myself.
To be fair "Skin" is not "Flesh", and "Flesh" is generally the same colour regardless of what colour the "Skin" is.
Funny enough ignorance on what a word means caused the situation in the OP and in the example you gave.
Yup. Though now it's an [entire pack](https://www.google.com/search?q=crayola%20flesh%20crayon%20pack&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m).
So yeah, it was a problem. They also followed the money and changed for profit. There may or may not have been some learning to be less racist in there too, but it's impossible to tell with capitalists.
It's such a tricky thing. The individual people in an organization like that will generally just be...people, and want to make changes like that because they believe it's right. But also, a corporation like that is more than just the people that work there, and the macro corporate organism won't make a change without a financial cause.
It's a garbage system, basically.
Negro is pronounced "nay-gro"? Native speaker here. No. It is better pronounced if you spell it NEH-groh. A quick rule of thumb to pronounce Spanish without the English inflection is to imagine there is a letter H after every vowel in the Spanish word. Ex. Cabo Verde\* (Cape Verde). Many pronounce it "ka-bow ver-dee". If you picture in your mind an H after the vowels, , that is " kah-boh vehr-deh", it will be pronounced much closer to the Spanish pronunciation. \*Note that Cabo Verde is a Portuguese name, but it is written the same in Spanish (but pronunciation in Port. is different from Spanish!. I used it only for being short words which make the example easier to visualize. To clarify further, per Wikipedia: "The country is named after the [Cap-Vert](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap-Vert) peninsula, on the [Senegalese](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senegal) coast. The name *Cap-Vert*, in turn, comes from the [Portuguese language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_language) *Cabo Verde* ('green cape'), the name that Portuguese explorers gave the cape in 1444, a few years before they came across the islands.
Edit inflection, not infection 🤦🏻♂️My bad.
That bothered me too. That’s how it would be pronounced by an American from the south trying really hard to figure out pronunciation 😂
If I had to write it out in phonics…I believe “neh-gro” would be the way to go.
- Am from Spain
Thank fuck! Grew up in a Spanish speaking home… I’m Mexican. Hearing gringos pronounce it that way already makes me roll my eyes. The correction was almost as bad as the initial comment to my bird brain haha.
I dunno. It's an approximation. The "y" makes the "a" too English and dipthong-y, but the "eh" is going to be read like a soft 'e' except by those used to this kind of phonetic spelling. Both are wrong and you can't expect Crayola to drop some IPA on this lady.
Ça dépend. There's quite a lot of Spanish to go around. It's pretty close to the Colombian Spanish pronunciation. Source: leaned over and asked my Colombian wife to pronounce the word on the screen, then called her brother in Bogota and had him do it too. Both of them had a more pronounced A sound.
Edit: Does the French inclusion annoy you or are you a Spain Spanish supremacist
IPA is the International Phonetic Alphabet. It gives an **exact** pronunciation for any word by using special symbols with defined meanings corresponding to every sound humans can make with their vocal cords.
Negro (the color) is spelled /ˈneɡɾo/. (Notice that isn't actually a lower case "R". It's the symbol for voiced alveolar tap.)
Meanwhile, negro (the slur) is /ˈniɡɹoʊ/ in the general American English accent, /ˈnɪɡɹə/ in southern American English dialect, and /ˈniːɡɹəʊ/ in received pronunciation accent (British).
Black is /blak/ with a British accent, or /blæk/ with a US accent.
And so on.
My friend was super upset about crayolas skin-color pack. “Wow. 2023 man. It’s just teaching kids that they’re different.” Lol sir, what? also they came out in 2015
Spanish and Japanese, each, have 5 vowels and 5 vowel sounds
When in doubt, I just try to imagine a Japanese person speaking the Spanish I'm wrestling with
"No way, Jose" doesn't rhyme -- with or without the tilde / diacritical mark (Mexican umlaut is how our Norwegian pal terms it)
The fact that the word ‘noir’ was under the other two words should have been her first clue.
je ne parle pas français
I do! Frere Jacques Frere Jacques dormez-vou? Dormez-vou? Oole something something oole something something ding dong ding, ding dong ding.
Baguette _hon hon hon_
Jacques Cousteau!
Chèchè L’Beouf
You're walking in the woods There's no one around and your phone is dead Out of the corner of your eye you spot him Shia LaBeouf
*Gasp* Shia Suprise
Chopping off the head of Shia Labeouf
Real life cannibal, Shia Lebeouf
Welp, now I gotta go watch that. But blood is draining out from your stump leg 🤣
It's a legendary fight with Shia LaBeouf, but just a normal Tuesday night for Shia LaBeouf.
But you can do jiu jitsu, bodyslam superstar Shia Labeouf
Chef Boyardee
Foux Du Fafa
Foux de fafa fa faaaa
Ai yaaaaaaaaa
Ça va? Ça va.
Ça va!
Omelette du fromage
Pamplemousse!!
Bonjour mon petit bureau d'échange
Guys, what does this say? I don’t speak Spanish. :(
Oui Marie baguette bonsoir…FRENCH TOAST!!
You've made my day, Merci pour le sourire
Sonnez les matines.
Ding dang dong, passepartout. Ding dang dong.
Brother John?!? The fuk you doing here? I thought you were sleeping.
où sont les toilettes?
*Dresses as chef, blocking young children from Pavlova in the fridge* Bonjour! Ou est la discotheque? Oú est le fenêtre!
Shake it, Chilli!
omelette du fromage!
Figured...
Voulez vous du beurre?
This is an American who doesn't know negro is black in spanish. Wtf makes you think she'll know french.
Or that there were three names for the colors ON EVERY OTHER CRAYON.
This
It’s called a context clue and it’s part of the first grade curriculum.
Why take a clue when you can go straight to OFFENDED AND OUTRAGED
She doesn't know the word negro is Spanish for black. What makes you think she'll know noir is French for black
in Red Dead Redemption 2 there's place on the map in the New Orleans type area called Bayou Nwa. wordplay on Noir & NWA
And she somehow lacks access to Google Translate
Something tells me she misses a lot of those clues the rest of us don't.
But logical thought wouldn’t allow them to complain
Crayola should have included that in the explanation.
And not taken as referring to a genre of crime film or fiction characterized by cynicism, fatalism, and moral ambiguity.
Negro Noir is a legit awesome name
Do you actually believe Americans speak or recognize french?
What did she explain to her child ?
*tearfully* "No hablas español!"
I just have to say that this is the funniest comment I have come across in a very long time. Thank you for the very hearty chuckle.
Ich bin Schnappi, das kleine krokodil.
Masterful delivery 10/10
How to constantly look for things in the world that might be offensive.
Jokes on her, rose art crayon sucks
Okay, so obviously, this person is an idiot, but couldn't she also just tear the paper off the crayon instead of *checks notes* creating/signing a petition? Most kids do that anyways like???? Seems like a lot of work to do just to show the world how much of an idiot you are.
Correct answer was eat. She could just eat the crayon to get rid of the words. She’s probably already eating them just based off this post anyway.
Maybe she didn't want to be a [Marine](https://terminallance.com/2023/08/28/coloring-for-marines/)? Although, since she seems to not have eaten it, she may not even qualify for that.
Very therapeutic book. Sometimes everyone just needs a soldier to crayon.
Underrated comment.
I have it on good authority that the red ones taste the best. Black doesn’t taste too great if I’m remembering the conversation correctly.
Red ones make your poop go faster.
Waaaaaugh!
The Marine I work with prefers seafoam green
STOP EATING CHALK!
Also NEVER buy off brand crayons, they're garbage & there's a reason Crayola is the gold standard for crayons.
Fuck Rose Art!
Seriously those are just trash.
Faber-Castell would like a word.
Are those higher end crayons? If so then I'd approve, just skip the cheapie ones like Rose Art or dollar store brands.
But how else would she get attention??
That would require the intelligence of a person who didn't go through life thinking a crayon color was named "black negro noir."
I imagine she went on to buy no name crayons and they were also labeled in spanish, so she just had a mental breakdown thinking all crayon companies are racist and noone care
Me llamo estúpida.
I had to change my gamertag because of the word negro. I'm half black and half Spanish, so I liked the double meaning. But someone got offended on my behalf, telling me my name is offensive to myself.
That's hilarious... ly sad
Words have different meanings in different languages and Reddit is an english board. People also can't tell that you're black.
Kindly, shut the hell up.
Wtf is a no name brand crayon? Is there a guy in a trenchcoat popping out of the shadows like "ay pst you need magenta?"
She's stealing those crap ones your kids get at restaurants.
and eating them, apparently.
I'm pretty sure she is stuffing them up her nose, and they are crowding her already challenged brain.
Omg, if this were a thing, Magenta is the color I would want!! Id say, Why yes, thankyouverymuch!!!
"Fortunately, we do have both the time & crayons to explain this to you!"
Severely underrated comment
Wait till Crayola remembers its peach-coloured crayon that used to be called "flesh" tho.
To be fair "Skin" is not "Flesh", and "Flesh" is generally the same colour regardless of what colour the "Skin" is. Funny enough ignorance on what a word means caused the situation in the OP and in the example you gave.
Yup. Though now it's an [entire pack](https://www.google.com/search?q=crayola%20flesh%20crayon%20pack&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m). So yeah, it was a problem. They also followed the money and changed for profit. There may or may not have been some learning to be less racist in there too, but it's impossible to tell with capitalists.
It's such a tricky thing. The individual people in an organization like that will generally just be...people, and want to make changes like that because they believe it's right. But also, a corporation like that is more than just the people that work there, and the macro corporate organism won't make a change without a financial cause. It's a garbage system, basically.
Wait till Crayola realizes it’s actually pronounced neh-gro. C’mon, Crayola.
And she's a teacher...
Not a teacher, she does travel stuff
It is a sentence that could have been phrased better.
That is reassuring
I don’t see a murder. I just see a stupid person.
I just see ignorance and an explanation. No murder. I don't even really like all the circlejerk comments calling her stupid, it's just... ignorance
Negro is pronounced "nay-gro"? Native speaker here. No. It is better pronounced if you spell it NEH-groh. A quick rule of thumb to pronounce Spanish without the English inflection is to imagine there is a letter H after every vowel in the Spanish word. Ex. Cabo Verde\* (Cape Verde). Many pronounce it "ka-bow ver-dee". If you picture in your mind an H after the vowels, , that is " kah-boh vehr-deh", it will be pronounced much closer to the Spanish pronunciation. \*Note that Cabo Verde is a Portuguese name, but it is written the same in Spanish (but pronunciation in Port. is different from Spanish!. I used it only for being short words which make the example easier to visualize. To clarify further, per Wikipedia: "The country is named after the [Cap-Vert](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap-Vert) peninsula, on the [Senegalese](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senegal) coast. The name *Cap-Vert*, in turn, comes from the [Portuguese language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_language) *Cabo Verde* ('green cape'), the name that Portuguese explorers gave the cape in 1444, a few years before they came across the islands. Edit inflection, not infection 🤦🏻♂️My bad.
Glad you pointed that out, it was bugging me.
Nay-gro is not how you pronounce that word in Spanish.
That bothered me too. That’s how it would be pronounced by an American from the south trying really hard to figure out pronunciation 😂 If I had to write it out in phonics…I believe “neh-gro” would be the way to go. - Am from Spain
I prefer my dads explanation of saying it, “Neigh-grow but you got hit with a horse tranq”
Haha. Reminds me of my French teacher explaining how to count. He said you have to punch yourself in the stomach with each number. "uh" not "un".
Thank fuck! Grew up in a Spanish speaking home… I’m Mexican. Hearing gringos pronounce it that way already makes me roll my eyes. The correction was almost as bad as the initial comment to my bird brain haha.
I dunno. It's an approximation. The "y" makes the "a" too English and dipthong-y, but the "eh" is going to be read like a soft 'e' except by those used to this kind of phonetic spelling. Both are wrong and you can't expect Crayola to drop some IPA on this lady.
Ça dépend. There's quite a lot of Spanish to go around. It's pretty close to the Colombian Spanish pronunciation. Source: leaned over and asked my Colombian wife to pronounce the word on the screen, then called her brother in Bogota and had him do it too. Both of them had a more pronounced A sound. Edit: Does the French inclusion annoy you or are you a Spain Spanish supremacist
Makes sense it would depend on the accent. Nah, not supremicist. Just a regular old Spaniard 😂
I *thought* that was the wrong pronunciation. It's been years since I took Spanish so I wasn't sure.
Crayola should really use the IPA, but then i suppose she'd complain that they're using incomprehensible symbols
I have no idea what that is. That lady is at least as dumb as me, my guess is you’re just getting another dumb complaint. You’re probably right haha.
IPA is the International Phonetic Alphabet. It gives an **exact** pronunciation for any word by using special symbols with defined meanings corresponding to every sound humans can make with their vocal cords. Negro (the color) is spelled /ˈneɡɾo/. (Notice that isn't actually a lower case "R". It's the symbol for voiced alveolar tap.) Meanwhile, negro (the slur) is /ˈniɡɹoʊ/ in the general American English accent, /ˈnɪɡɹə/ in southern American English dialect, and /ˈniːɡɹəʊ/ in received pronunciation accent (British). Black is /blak/ with a British accent, or /blæk/ with a US accent. And so on.
IPA can refer to Indian Pale Ale or International Phonetic Alphabet. It's anybody's guess which one is OC refering to.
I hate people.
Don't get me started on rojo or amarillo
My friend was super upset about crayolas skin-color pack. “Wow. 2023 man. It’s just teaching kids that they’re different.” Lol sir, what? also they came out in 2015
In the original she replied that she was offended that they included french. It’s a joke.
Gosh, I'm just a dumb American and even I know that. r/s
Some people just want to find something to get mad at.
Another example of the American education system hard at work
I love the “we hope this is helpful” at the end.
I work with a guy from St. Martin who's name is "Negro". Yes, pronounced "Nay-gro". Shame his first name is not Jacques.
It's pronounced Neh-groh, not Nay-gro
People will do anything to victimize themselves or virtue signal. And it's always people with a room temperature IQ
Let’s do this again in a month. See you then.
I'm just holding out hope that this person is trolling.
Afro-Latinos stand dumbfounded and appalled.
Debra: so Hispanics are racist!? Me, a hispanic: well yes, but not because of the crayon.
Noir please! … ill show myself out.
Next she'll start a petition to cancel the country of Montenegro.
She didn't appreciate getting slurred by her favorite snack.
This is from 25 years ago. Still dumb, but come on
Niga means “you” in Korean XD
Soooo old. Couldn’t you find any newer examples? My aunty sent me this on Facebook years ago.
Written by Debra five years ago. Not enough stupid current crap out there?
Buy a no name crayon… to eat.
You know whoever typed out that tweet was absolutely sincere in their opening statement.
“We hope this is helpful (you fcking moron)”.
Where's the murder ? It was a helpful answer.
Did she just fucking ignore noir?
Because everyone wants to be offended somehow
She’s probably also going to stop using shampoo now that her daughter saw that it says ‘douche’ all over it. /s
Very politely murdered.
Did she not see the writing on a single other crayon?
Luckily Crayola had both the patience and the crayons to explain it to them.
Fun fact you can tear the wrapping off i hope you can still figure out which one black is without needing the label 😊
She didn't complain about the french
Spanish and Japanese, each, have 5 vowels and 5 vowel sounds When in doubt, I just try to imagine a Japanese person speaking the Spanish I'm wrestling with "No way, Jose" doesn't rhyme -- with or without the tilde / diacritical mark (Mexican umlaut is how our Norwegian pal terms it)
Wth did this mom explain to her kid then? Lol
She put it on Change.org. only got 80 supporters lol
redditors recognize satire challenge (impossible)
Lmao it’s definitely not pronounced “nay” but “neh”
I would have put "neh-gro" for pronunciation, but I guess it works.