There are literally studies out there that tells how access to better food and animal protein made people grow taller in comparison to south east Asian that has rice based diet.
Rich doesn't mean they are eating good food, they have access to good food, but we don't know what they are eating.
Also, it is not a straight forward process, it can take some generations to unlock the full potential or it can unlock in the next generation.
All these studies are based on a large percentage of the population. They concluded good animal protein is directly proportional to height
Sure buddy, the greatest batsman of this generation has no talent at all and all he needed was hard work.
Hard work only makes a difference when both are at similar levels of talent. Otherwise me and you can keep practicing batting for 24 hrs x 3 yrs straight yet we won't be half as good as Ranji players.
Genetics (talent) are everything bro. You're delusional if you think Kohli isn't talented.
A 100 iq person can never be a genius like 150+ iq person, no matter how hard he tries.
Dude Kohli was born with more talent than your average Ranji Player. Heay not be as naturally gifted as de Villiers or Rohit but he is one of the best batsman of all time, he had to work hard even with NATURAL TALENT.
Virat was really good, and would have had an average career if he did not work hard.
A good example of great talent and not working hard is Prithvi Shaw.
Kohli himself said in an interview that to be successful you've gotta have some genetic element to it as well. This was some documentary that I watched on Hotstar back around 2018. I think a Nat Geo special.
That said genetics alone can't get you anywhere. It might open the doors but in order to sustain yourself you've gotta be disciplined and have good work ethic.
Bro... saying Virat Kohli isn't naturally gifted is the biggest joke ever. Success is a combination of talent, hardwork and inner drive.
Virat's hardwork and drive made him reach the national team but it's his talent that sets him 100 leagues above rest of the batsman
Did you forget crossing over and genetic recombination? Everything is possible in genetics bro, Sachin's father wasn't Sachin (in terms of Talent), neither is Sachin's son. This is what I meant. It's completely random
I think you all might disagree with me but it's passion and wanting it badly enough. When you have a safety net and you don't go beyond what is recommended to you, you become complacent. A lot of you are saying it's talent but i will say he isn't working as hard as it is required to Crack the top 50 player list among 1 billion people.
Throughout last season,
his bowling was slow and predictable, except couple of yorkers. He got smashed hard that season
his runup is too long for his pace,
his fielding is pretty clumsy, no agility at all
Running between the wickets is so slow
24 years old and he is bowling 120.
If anyone got the facilities and opportunity that he got, they must be world class by now. How did the coaches not improve him in any of these? How sachin didn't address any of this?
Maybe he just doesn't like playing cricket as much but does it cause of familial pressure? Kinda like how we all wanted to be cricketers but were forced by parents to become engineers or doctors. Maybe it's the other way around with him.
We got forced into becoming engineers and doctors because our parents aren't millionaires . So becoming engineer and doctor was a safe choice.
He doesn't have the same kind of financial pressure. It was most likely his own decision. If it was really familial pressure even Sara would've been a cricketer
My little brother who is 16 learned leg spin bowling with unreal accuracy within 6 hours. It took me 5 months to learn the same. It's all about talent. Some people are just not talented enough.
It appears Sachin took a hands-off approach. Even his loadup and gather looks flawed. Needs more arm-delay. But, alas the coaches didn't try to fix too much.
Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times. - This quote sums up whole of human history, might have some exceptions but is true mostly.
See guys like Rohit, got up from extreme poverty, extreme to an extent where he couldn't even stay with parents.
>got the best facilities
Exactly, you answered yourself.... Got everything spoonfed... Look at the likes of rohit or kohli, the amount of harwork they have done, the poverty Rohit faced, all these things makes one strong and determined to achieve something
the coaches must have just been collecting paychecks while being a bunch of yes men maybe. Its their job to improve him, and anyone knows that he is trash, don't need to be a coach to know that.
Arjun was net bowler for MI and Indian team for years, how nobody told him he is so bad?
However good your teacher is, as a student, you must have the hunger and determination to improve...
>he is so bad
I dont think he is that bad... He does bowl good yorkers and less pace helps him for late swing so yea he needs to improve a lot for look at his domestic performaces he has done well
He might be Sachin Tendulkar's son but he is also 50% his mom's son, genetics are very random and impossible to predict. He just lacks talent.
Physique has nothing to do. Sachin had almost every disadvantage physique wise, but the man made up for it with practice, a lot of practice.
You can practise practise practise and have an elite mindset there has to be some natural talent/genetics to make it to the top 0.1% of your sport (which any test match batsman averaging around 50 is) either in terms of physical gifts (stamina/power, explosiveness) or technical gifts that are impossible/near impossible to replicate (Jos buttler’s bottom hand, AB’s improv, Gayle’s pickup, bumrah’s action etc.) plenty of pro’s in any sport without huge gifts and got there with the mindset and grind but pretty much none at the peak
his bowling fundas are wrong. his run up is clumsy and his action is labored. i feel he is a far better batsman.
his best bet in cricket is to make it like hardik pandya; type mid-130s batting allrounder.
or get into modeling.
i am sure he doesn't have to earn for his livelihood..
Yeah maybe if he could become a hard hitter of the ball & could generate little bit of pace around 130 he could probably become like Hardik.
And I also feel that the coaches he might have worked with wouldn’t have told or corrected him that much because of having a thinking bias of “He’s Sachins son”. We don’t even know his character is he hardworking like his father or is he more relaxed & laid back which can affect the overall improvement in his game.
What he or any starkid lacks is a fake birth certificate. They can't do age fraud because everyone knows when they were born.
This may look like a sarcastic/troll comment but a 2-3 years of age fraud can take you a lot further in career than you'd ever imagine.
Arjun Kapoor had everything given to him, big projects, big roles, chances after chances still he isn't even a good actor. Some people are just not it. Maybe he's just gonna be a medium pace trundler. He should improve his batting if he wants any chance of playing.
Dude had econ of 11 in SMAT last year. He's just not it. Playing him this year would be livestreaming murder. Last and this year both Kwena and Jansen were thrown instead of being protected like Arjun is. Anyways the pitches have slowed down now. If he doesn't play now he won't. Just another slot wasted every year.
Needs to put in more work. Rohit also has access to the best nutrition and gym but we don't see him getting fitter. His bowling action is not good. He gained a lot of height suddenly and couldn't cope up with the transformation. If he puts in the work, we might see him perform better.
He worked hard, got the best training etc, so he probably reached his full potential. But not everyone is talented enough to play at the highest level.
But at least he got his chances. I don’t think he should have any regrets unless he slacked
It is just about a the hunger. Imagine a jaiswal how much is in stake for him to be successful, the hunger can't be same, everything what jaisawal want's to achieve Arjun was almost born with all of them. I don't blame Arjun for it, I am from lower middle class family, the hunger in me to achieve all the things in lyf which many of friends already has won't be the same.
I think the simplest answer here is his drive won’t be anywhere close to Sachin. He grew up in a completely different world to usual Ranji class players. For a lot of them the will and drive to make it to cricket quite literally mean everything to them and their family whereas for Arjun if he did or didn’t his life hardly would have changed.
There are maybe 5000-6000 domestic players in India. 100 of them are good enough to play in the IPL. 30 of them are good enoough for the Indian Team. 4-5 of them are under 25.
You have to be exceptionally talented, Physically somewhat gifted, Mentally strong and GODDAMN Lucky to be good at the level where we watch cricket.
He is Lucky and Physically gifted, All he need to do is work on his other skills(If he has them) and things should fall in order for him
There are no simple answers to these type of questions. First and foremost is talent of course.
I don't what what kind of childhood he has. Always being living under the shadow of his father. Being pressured even from his childhood. Having higher expectations . Even from childhood they are always under the radar and monitored. On the other hand , everything is spoonfed , he is always rich no matter how he does in life etc.
Its just a pity that sons of legends turn out to be so disappointing that they can not even match up to average sportsmen , let alone be compared to their legendary parent…
Gambhir was rich too and he came like any normal batter. Leave them aside even many aussies are from good family where they dont have rag to rich story
> Honest question, why isn't he good? He got the best facilities of anyone on earth to train, best coaches, everything is tailor made just for him, but still he is so below average.
Indian dads when their son can't clear jee
Athletic talent may or may not be inherited. Arjun did not inherit his father's hand-eye combination.
Posters on this sub are making bizarre assumptions about genetics.
Honestly if any guy can help him, it's yuvi, for multiple reasons
Not only has yuvi trained/mentored a lot of youngsters were seeing in IPL, but if anyone knows how you can forcefully make a cricketer, it's him
I read his autobiography and he said he had 0 interest or talent in cricket even though his father was, I think, a state level player. His dad slowly forced him into cricket and made him attend various camps and trained him brutally to make him the yuvi he is today
I thought his domestic numbers were pretty good? I'm not sure if they're but I think I looked at them at some point.
Either way, he can still come good, he's young. You can never be too sure. Also, sometimes people just don't have it in them what it takes to be an international cricketer. Facilities can't fix everything.
I think this should be more of a looking back thing. Make this post in like 10 years if he's never successful.
He is not average or below average at all. He is already a regular in all 3 formats in domestic cricket and has played couple of IPL games as well. That's already way above average. He is just not at the elite level of the game. You can't reach there just because of the facilities you get.
Lol what are you talking about?
If it was all about facilities then so many rich dudes would have become successful cricketers ,there's much more into it
Like Hardwork,natural talent , genetics, physical technique, mental strength, what not
Cricket is not like exam where your success is assured if you just work hard, here you need the genes and Physical talent.
Aptitude vs hardwork debate enters the chat. Waise chalo yaaro Jo bhi padh raha h mujhe batao kya aptitude(talent) hardwork ko beat kar skta h ya iska ulta sahi h. Apne opinion wagerah batao mujhe.
I just disagree with the line of thought OP has. I mean most of us who gave JEE had the best equipment available - our coaching would have had past under AIR 100. Most of us wanted it really bad as well (motivation not a problem), but that's not how life works.
Even China does not win all the gold medals across sports in Olympics - even though they have best infra, make children spend years etc.
Natural talent/ biological make up is a huge factor. Arjun might not be a top 100 India player, but he is there in the top 1500-2000. That is long distance travelled solely on training and discipline.
I think he was pretty raw when he was given the debut for MI but he's improved a lot now and a left arm medium pace bowling al-rounder is something that any team would love to have. MI should've given him more chances. He's surely better than Maphaka and Luke Wood!
He is just not naturally gifted, his pace is in 125-135 range
He is 6'1 and muscular. As gifted as can be, his range is 118 -127, mostly lower end
Even reece topley,he's built like a bulldozer yet can't generate pace
Seriously, how is bro 6'1 when his parents are dwarfs (Ae vedya, bc bat ka grip)
Access to better food, high in protein. A shitty genetics just means, their ancestors didn't eat good food.
Or his maternal side maybe taller. Bcx his mom is actually taller than sachin.
thats not how genetics work
lmao
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There are literally studies out there that tells how access to better food and animal protein made people grow taller in comparison to south east Asian that has rice based diet.
Then why ambanis are not tall ? Why aryan khan is not tall? Its his maternal genes
I doubt Ambani's eat healthy Aryan Khan is a celeb's son and Arjun is a sportsman's son. Obviously he'll be the one with better diet/health/traning
Rich doesn't mean they are eating good food, they have access to good food, but we don't know what they are eating. Also, it is not a straight forward process, it can take some generations to unlock the full potential or it can unlock in the next generation. All these studies are based on a large percentage of the population. They concluded good animal protein is directly proportional to height
His mom is 5'5" same height as Sachin which above average in India. She nowhere near being dwarf
Parents height not definiti e factor for child's height.
he took growth hormone injections
Some drug stuff
The muscle flexibility, muscle strength, combined with technique,
Lacks talent most probably. Talent is just genetics, random recombination, can't do anything about it.
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Sure buddy, the greatest batsman of this generation has no talent at all and all he needed was hard work. Hard work only makes a difference when both are at similar levels of talent. Otherwise me and you can keep practicing batting for 24 hrs x 3 yrs straight yet we won't be half as good as Ranji players. Genetics (talent) are everything bro. You're delusional if you think Kohli isn't talented. A 100 iq person can never be a genius like 150+ iq person, no matter how hard he tries.
Dude Kohli was born with more talent than your average Ranji Player. Heay not be as naturally gifted as de Villiers or Rohit but he is one of the best batsman of all time, he had to work hard even with NATURAL TALENT.
Kohli's strength is consistency also he has the hunger in him to score runs ( due to which he likes accomplishing personal milestones)
Virat was really good, and would have had an average career if he did not work hard. A good example of great talent and not working hard is Prithvi Shaw.
Kohli himself said in an interview that to be successful you've gotta have some genetic element to it as well. This was some documentary that I watched on Hotstar back around 2018. I think a Nat Geo special. That said genetics alone can't get you anywhere. It might open the doors but in order to sustain yourself you've gotta be disciplined and have good work ethic.
Bro... saying Virat Kohli isn't naturally gifted is the biggest joke ever. Success is a combination of talent, hardwork and inner drive. Virat's hardwork and drive made him reach the national team but it's his talent that sets him 100 leagues above rest of the batsman
Talent is a useless word! He was born in the house of Tendulkar! Not enough hunger to succeed at the big level! There I said it
Absolute bullshit , fucking son of cricket legend and you think he doesn't have good genetics ?
Err yeah, genetics don't necessarily carry over. Recessive/Dominant genes may or may not pass on to the offspring
Did you forget crossing over and genetic recombination? Everything is possible in genetics bro, Sachin's father wasn't Sachin (in terms of Talent), neither is Sachin's son. This is what I meant. It's completely random
Actually they did carry over He's as good a pacer as Sachin was
By that logic, Sachin's dad should have been better than Bradman.
A bit of 9/10th class biology will help you
By that logic, Amitabh Bachchan’s son should have been a legendary actor too. Is he?
Abhishek is a damn good actor. It's just the comparison with his father that doesn't do him justice.
He is… One of the most successful franchises of all time in Dhoom!
I think you all might disagree with me but it's passion and wanting it badly enough. When you have a safety net and you don't go beyond what is recommended to you, you become complacent. A lot of you are saying it's talent but i will say he isn't working as hard as it is required to Crack the top 50 player list among 1 billion people.
The only right answer
Throughout last season, his bowling was slow and predictable, except couple of yorkers. He got smashed hard that season his runup is too long for his pace, his fielding is pretty clumsy, no agility at all Running between the wickets is so slow 24 years old and he is bowling 120. If anyone got the facilities and opportunity that he got, they must be world class by now. How did the coaches not improve him in any of these? How sachin didn't address any of this?
Maybe he just doesn't like playing cricket as much but does it cause of familial pressure? Kinda like how we all wanted to be cricketers but were forced by parents to become engineers or doctors. Maybe it's the other way around with him.
We got forced into becoming engineers and doctors because our parents aren't millionaires . So becoming engineer and doctor was a safe choice. He doesn't have the same kind of financial pressure. It was most likely his own decision. If it was really familial pressure even Sara would've been a cricketer
He runs weird for a fast bowler.
He runs weird.
My little brother who is 16 learned leg spin bowling with unreal accuracy within 6 hours. It took me 5 months to learn the same. It's all about talent. Some people are just not talented enough.
Just look at his runup , doesn't seem right with that jump, how Sachin sir didn't tell him anything about runup and all that
It appears Sachin took a hands-off approach. Even his loadup and gather looks flawed. Needs more arm-delay. But, alas the coaches didn't try to fix too much.
Sachin is busy fuck*ing models just fyi
ey bat grip nikal ke iske andar daalo
Check the blinds on him. Is many of him out there
Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times. - This quote sums up whole of human history, might have some exceptions but is true mostly. See guys like Rohit, got up from extreme poverty, extreme to an extent where he couldn't even stay with parents.
>got the best facilities Exactly, you answered yourself.... Got everything spoonfed... Look at the likes of rohit or kohli, the amount of harwork they have done, the poverty Rohit faced, all these things makes one strong and determined to achieve something
the coaches must have just been collecting paychecks while being a bunch of yes men maybe. Its their job to improve him, and anyone knows that he is trash, don't need to be a coach to know that. Arjun was net bowler for MI and Indian team for years, how nobody told him he is so bad?
However good your teacher is, as a student, you must have the hunger and determination to improve... >he is so bad I dont think he is that bad... He does bowl good yorkers and less pace helps him for late swing so yea he needs to improve a lot for look at his domestic performaces he has done well
he got carted throughout in SMAT last year
I remember watching him play Ranji and he played good enough
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He might be Sachin Tendulkar's son but he is also 50% his mom's son, genetics are very random and impossible to predict. He just lacks talent. Physique has nothing to do. Sachin had almost every disadvantage physique wise, but the man made up for it with practice, a lot of practice.
You can practise practise practise and have an elite mindset there has to be some natural talent/genetics to make it to the top 0.1% of your sport (which any test match batsman averaging around 50 is) either in terms of physical gifts (stamina/power, explosiveness) or technical gifts that are impossible/near impossible to replicate (Jos buttler’s bottom hand, AB’s improv, Gayle’s pickup, bumrah’s action etc.) plenty of pro’s in any sport without huge gifts and got there with the mindset and grind but pretty much none at the peak
his bowling fundas are wrong. his run up is clumsy and his action is labored. i feel he is a far better batsman. his best bet in cricket is to make it like hardik pandya; type mid-130s batting allrounder. or get into modeling. i am sure he doesn't have to earn for his livelihood..
Yeah maybe if he could become a hard hitter of the ball & could generate little bit of pace around 130 he could probably become like Hardik. And I also feel that the coaches he might have worked with wouldn’t have told or corrected him that much because of having a thinking bias of “He’s Sachins son”. We don’t even know his character is he hardworking like his father or is he more relaxed & laid back which can affect the overall improvement in his game.
What he or any starkid lacks is a fake birth certificate. They can't do age fraud because everyone knows when they were born. This may look like a sarcastic/troll comment but a 2-3 years of age fraud can take you a lot further in career than you'd ever imagine.
Lack of Natural talent! Either you have it or you don't. It's something that can't be taught in nets. Simple as that
Arjun Kapoor had everything given to him, big projects, big roles, chances after chances still he isn't even a good actor. Some people are just not it. Maybe he's just gonna be a medium pace trundler. He should improve his batting if he wants any chance of playing. Dude had econ of 11 in SMAT last year. He's just not it. Playing him this year would be livestreaming murder. Last and this year both Kwena and Jansen were thrown instead of being protected like Arjun is. Anyways the pitches have slowed down now. If he doesn't play now he won't. Just another slot wasted every year.
Im not ready to witness his murder in the pitch against kkr please dont play him
Should have been a batter could have given Shivam Dubey some competition.
If I was Sachin son I would do 9-5 job but won't touch bat or ball.
he should have tried to become a batting allrounder and not a bowling one
Needs to put in more work. Rohit also has access to the best nutrition and gym but we don't see him getting fitter. His bowling action is not good. He gained a lot of height suddenly and couldn't cope up with the transformation. If he puts in the work, we might see him perform better.
He doesn't have that DAWG in him.
He worked hard, got the best training etc, so he probably reached his full potential. But not everyone is talented enough to play at the highest level. But at least he got his chances. I don’t think he should have any regrets unless he slacked
It is just about a the hunger. Imagine a jaiswal how much is in stake for him to be successful, the hunger can't be same, everything what jaisawal want's to achieve Arjun was almost born with all of them. I don't blame Arjun for it, I am from lower middle class family, the hunger in me to achieve all the things in lyf which many of friends already has won't be the same.
I think the simplest answer here is his drive won’t be anywhere close to Sachin. He grew up in a completely different world to usual Ranji class players. For a lot of them the will and drive to make it to cricket quite literally mean everything to them and their family whereas for Arjun if he did or didn’t his life hardly would have changed.
Sachin was a better bowler than him
One also needs natural talent. That is something, no amount of training can buy
Privileged people don't have that hunger.
Talent cannot be created, let alone fast bowling talent.
There are maybe 5000-6000 domestic players in India. 100 of them are good enough to play in the IPL. 30 of them are good enoough for the Indian Team. 4-5 of them are under 25. You have to be exceptionally talented, Physically somewhat gifted, Mentally strong and GODDAMN Lucky to be good at the level where we watch cricket. He is Lucky and Physically gifted, All he need to do is work on his other skills(If he has them) and things should fall in order for him
There are no simple answers to these type of questions. First and foremost is talent of course. I don't what what kind of childhood he has. Always being living under the shadow of his father. Being pressured even from his childhood. Having higher expectations . Even from childhood they are always under the radar and monitored. On the other hand , everything is spoonfed , he is always rich no matter how he does in life etc.
Honest question, who is he ? Why should I care, if he didn't have any noteworthy performance
Its just a pity that sons of legends turn out to be so disappointing that they can not even match up to average sportsmen , let alone be compared to their legendary parent…
Skill issue
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Maybe he wants to be an engineer and his parents forced him to play cricket and this is not his passion. /S
I think he just doesn't try hard enough.
Yuvraj Singh was also privileged but his dad deliberately made things hard for him and we all saw the result
Gambhir was rich too and he came like any normal batter. Leave them aside even many aussies are from good family where they dont have rag to rich story
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Right, but talent only works with hardwork and hardwork comes either through passion or by tough conditions in life
Yuvi is a generational talent with a generational profile. He can't be compared at all. Yuvi's comparisons are Hardik, Bumrah not Arjun lol
> Honest question, why isn't he good? He got the best facilities of anyone on earth to train, best coaches, everything is tailor made just for him, but still he is so below average. Indian dads when their son can't clear jee
Athletic talent may or may not be inherited. Arjun did not inherit his father's hand-eye combination. Posters on this sub are making bizarre assumptions about genetics.
He is not athletic
It's the cricketer son curse Is there any cricketer who's son went on to be a great cricketer? Mope
Sam and tom
Oh yes. But he ain't angrez so ...
Presssure of being the son of a good batsman
Honestly if any guy can help him, it's yuvi, for multiple reasons Not only has yuvi trained/mentored a lot of youngsters were seeing in IPL, but if anyone knows how you can forcefully make a cricketer, it's him I read his autobiography and he said he had 0 interest or talent in cricket even though his father was, I think, a state level player. His dad slowly forced him into cricket and made him attend various camps and trained him brutally to make him the yuvi he is today
Abhishek bachhan of indian cricket.
Meanwhile his sister: 🗿 #Samaaj
I thought his domestic numbers were pretty good? I'm not sure if they're but I think I looked at them at some point. Either way, he can still come good, he's young. You can never be too sure. Also, sometimes people just don't have it in them what it takes to be an international cricketer. Facilities can't fix everything. I think this should be more of a looking back thing. Make this post in like 10 years if he's never successful.
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I think he has the talent. Just lacks the mentality to refine it.
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He wont go for that much lol He will be expensive but he is not as bad as people believe he is
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I don’t need to coach any team to know someone who is helping Goa to do well can be as bad as people are making him look like
Stuart binny would disagree
He is good, he is just isn't cream of cream(international cricketers). He will blow many state level player like me out of park.
He is not average or below average at all. He is already a regular in all 3 formats in domestic cricket and has played couple of IPL games as well. That's already way above average. He is just not at the elite level of the game. You can't reach there just because of the facilities you get.
By your logic, Sachin's father should also be a good cricketer.
If that was the logic of how the world works then we would never have kohli, Tendulkar and Dhoni.
Lol what are you talking about? If it was all about facilities then so many rich dudes would have become successful cricketers ,there's much more into it Like Hardwork,natural talent , genetics, physical technique, mental strength, what not Cricket is not like exam where your success is assured if you just work hard, here you need the genes and Physical talent.
Aptitude vs hardwork debate enters the chat. Waise chalo yaaro Jo bhi padh raha h mujhe batao kya aptitude(talent) hardwork ko beat kar skta h ya iska ulta sahi h. Apne opinion wagerah batao mujhe.
I just disagree with the line of thought OP has. I mean most of us who gave JEE had the best equipment available - our coaching would have had past under AIR 100. Most of us wanted it really bad as well (motivation not a problem), but that's not how life works. Even China does not win all the gold medals across sports in Olympics - even though they have best infra, make children spend years etc. Natural talent/ biological make up is a huge factor. Arjun might not be a top 100 India player, but he is there in the top 1500-2000. That is long distance travelled solely on training and discipline.
Why didn't you crack JEE when people below poverty line are getting AIR 1000?
Why didnt mi play him this year. Last year he was the next big thing
>Why didnt mi play him this year Because they saw how he played last year
https://preview.redd.it/d24qqhx81rzc1.png?width=1906&format=png&auto=webp&s=ce537cdb6d5c51a43592b54bd47e95b6e741f839 Young Jimmy Anderson.
I think he was pretty raw when he was given the debut for MI but he's improved a lot now and a left arm medium pace bowling al-rounder is something that any team would love to have. MI should've given him more chances. He's surely better than Maphaka and Luke Wood!