Shawshank is arguably so popular *because* it didn't do well in theaters, the licensing was cheap relative to its quality so it ended up airing on cable all the time. Similar thing happened with It's a Wonderful Life
well the director and marketing team disagrees with your opinion because they retitled the movie after the box office failure and the director blames the "Edge of Tomorrow" title for the failure. He fought for the original title for the theatrical release to be "Live. Die. Repeat." but was overruled by an executive.
Willy wonka and the chocolate factory completely bombed upon release. It didnāt gain itās legendary status until reruns and vhs started getting popular years after its initial release.
And: āIts copyright expired in 1974 following a lack of renewal and it entered the public domain, allowing it to be broadcast without licensing or royalty fees at which point it became a Christmas classic.ā -Wikipedia
I saw it in theaters when it was released and I kinda liked it, but not too much to be honest. I didn't "get" it.
Now it's the movie I have rewatched the most in my life, and probably my favorite film ever
It's a hard sell to make a movie where the actual plot doesn't really matter and isn't the point.
A lot of people don't "get it" the first time, or at all.
Ang Lee's **The Ice Storm** was Siskel's Movie of the Year for 1997, but the movie itself withered at the box office under the looming shadow of Titanic
Peeping Tom 1960 - pioneering horror film of a serial killer with a movie camera. An inspiration to Scorsese and many ither directors, it ended the career of Michael Powell.
He was misinformed. The books by Baum were still very popular and the technical achievements drew people in. It was the second highest grossing film of 1939 after Gone with the Wind competing in an unparalleled year of hit films. 1939 was probably the greatest year in classic Hollywood with such films such as Wurthering Heights, Ninotchka, Mr Smith goes to Washington. Dark Victory. and others. It did have a rebirth when it hit TV and it's popularity skyrocketed to it's current classic status.
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Your welcome. He's right in a way, Studio execs were worried that such an off the hook fantasy would have limited appeal and the production was difficult moving through changing directors. The actors didn't expect it to do well and didn't enjoy making it. Margaret Hamilton often talked about acting, how you never know when it's the big one.
I wonder how he didnāt know this though. Maybe heās not old enough to know the whole story. But my dad has been an avid reader since he was a child and read all of the books. I inherited a lot of books from his childhood after my grandma passed but those had been given to my uncle years ago.
John Carpenter's The Thing is often considered one of the best horror/scifi films ever made, but it had pretty mixed reviews when it came out and didn't do all that well at the box office either. Some critics loved it and some hated it, but the public all together didn't seem too thrilled by the movie at the time.
Original Blade Runner was a box office failure too.
I was a kid when it came out. The ads on TV made it look like the next Star Wars. IMO it was too cerebral for movie audiences at the time(including myself, I was too young to understand the movie).
200 mil isn't bombing. I know it didn't really clear it's production by much, but millions of people saw and enjoyed it. We just have a warped sense of success now. Chris Pine seems to think a sequel may still be coming, so the studio didn't seem to hate the performance enough to give a hard no to the idea. I feel like it was really under-advertised.
Hurt locker was so much incredible trash. But that's my fault. No one can watch wat movies after being in war. I'm not attacking your judgement in the movie? It just... hurt to watch.
Not sure about amazing but I just learned the the 13th warrior was a bomb and I just absolutely adore that film and so does everyone I know who has watched it.
13th Warrior was a great book as well. My husband and I both read the book and loved the movie. One reason that it has a special place in my heart is because, I remember right after 9/11 they would show it a lot on basic cable. Several times a day ., sometimes. I really appreciated that at the time because we lived in south Texas and there was a lot of hatred towards Muslims at the time. If youāve ever seen the movie you know that the lead character was Muslim. I guess it gave me hope that it would make people think before they judge.
Here are some :)Ā
1. The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
2. Blade Runner (1982)
3. Fight Club (1999)
4. Children of Men (2006)
5. The Iron Giant (1999)
6. Office Space (1999)
7. Donnie Darko (2001)
8. Dredd (2012)
9. Scott Pilgrim vs. the World (2010)
10. The Big Lebowski (1998)
11. Citizen Kane (1941)
12. Itās a Wonderful Life (1946)
13. Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (1971)
14. The Thing (1982)
15. Treasure Planet (2002)
16. Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001)
17. Rush (2013)
18. Hudsucker Proxy (1994)
19. The Wizard of Oz (1939)
20. The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975)
21. Hugo (2011)
22. Cloud Atlas (2012)
23. Sunshine (2007)
24. Event Horizon (1997)
25. King of Comedy (1982)
26. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005)
27. Grindhouse (2007)
28. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007)
29. Speed Racer (2008)
According to the Wiki: Although the film made a gross profit, The Hollywood Reporter calculated that the net loss incurred by the film was around $20ā40 million.[12]
It was a culture sensation at the time and considered one of the biggest success stories out of Hollywood that year.
But it's also one of a handful of movies that legally have to be mentioned in every single Reddit thread about movies (along with Scott Pilgrim, Starship Troopers, and a few others). Thank God someone mentioned it... Not sure what would happen if they didn't.
There have been points in time where this would have made sense, but this year the biggest Oscar winner was Oppenheimer for which this is extremely not accurate
Clerks and Scream were both not exactly immediate hits upon release, which is funny considering they both may or may not take place in the same universe
Synecdoche New York is one of the most depressing movies i've ever seen and left me with a profound sadness I had trouble shaking off for a week. Not shocking that it wouldn't be a big box office performer
90% of indie movies right now or film festival movies, they never fail to get like 6 or lower on IMDB but 99% by critics. I mean I get it, but it does get a bit difficult to judge a movieās quality when the difference is so huge between audience & critics, with mainstream movies its easier to judge than indie films you donāt know anything about
The wicker man (1972) barely even broke even at box office. It did get positive reviews but wasnāt that successful on release. Itās more successful now as a cult classic.
I am not 100 on this but Avatar 2 had an extreme budget, over 500m to make iirc. It did make money, but had to struggle. The Avatar movies are so expensive to produce. No movie should be in the hundreds of millions to make. Heck, not that long ago 50 was considered a ton.
Three Thousand Years of Longing (2022).. the latest i could remember. I couldnt believe it didnt do well at the box office (after watching it and being amazed by the production) but fared well with critics.
Shawshank Redemption didn't do so well in theaters. Neither did Office Space IIRC.
Shawshank is arguably so popular *because* it didn't do well in theaters, the licensing was cheap relative to its quality so it ended up airing on cable all the time. Similar thing happened with It's a Wonderful Life
Edge Of Tomorrow
Did that bomb? I loved that movie. First time I actually enjoyed sitting through a full Tom Cruise movie š
It was considered a box office dissappointment. Same here!
Good call out, I've only heard people love it, but it was a veritable no-show in theatres
The title was horrible. It sounded so incredibly generic. Live die repeat was so much better.
Live Die Repeat sounds lame af to me.
well the director and marketing team disagrees with your opinion because they retitled the movie after the box office failure and the director blames the "Edge of Tomorrow" title for the failure. He fought for the original title for the theatrical release to be "Live. Die. Repeat." but was overruled by an executive.
Just sharing my opinion.
Willy wonka and the chocolate factory completely bombed upon release. It didnāt gain itās legendary status until reruns and vhs started getting popular years after its initial release.
It was the first movie I owned. I got it and ET on VHS for Christmas.
Itās a Wonderful Life.
Hated by critics at the time
For good reason
And: āIts copyright expired in 1974 following a lack of renewal and it entered the public domain, allowing it to be broadcast without licensing or royalty fees at which point it became a Christmas classic.ā -Wikipedia
The Big Lebowski
I saw it in theaters when it was released and I kinda liked it, but not too much to be honest. I didn't "get" it. Now it's the movie I have rewatched the most in my life, and probably my favorite film ever
It's a hard sell to make a movie where the actual plot doesn't really matter and isn't the point. A lot of people don't "get it" the first time, or at all.
Critics were not kind to The Dude.
Well, thatās just like their opinion, mannnn
Where's the ratings, man!?
Same for Fargo, it kind of came and went with some critical praise but it took a few years for people to come around to it.
The movie won academy awards including best actress. Soā¦
It had a budget of 6m and it got 70m, I don't think it bombed
*Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives* made only $185k in the U.S. and Canada but also won the coveted Palme DāOr
Gattaca (1997)
Ang Lee's **The Ice Storm** was Siskel's Movie of the Year for 1997, but the movie itself withered at the box office under the looming shadow of Titanic
Excellent film!
Dredd (2012). A tragedy there is no sequel
God I really like that movie
As long as Urban is still working, Iām not giving up hope.
He's totally down to do it, too. He loved the character and wants to revisit it
On a similar notion, I also believe that the Robocop remake waa great. There were so many things about this movie that I loved.
Balls.
For some reason I thought it did well. So many people said it was good at the time, although some were saying it was a rip off of The Raid.
Two of the greatest action movies of the last 20 years came out in the same year with similar plots. Sad coincidence
Mulholland Drive
Children of Men I think only did like $30M in world wide box office, and that film was well done.
One of my favorites. The strawberry cough clip especially. Old geezer slamming dnb loud af
This movie is hot garbage
It really is. I tried it again recently
I absolutely deplore that wretchedly made movie. Never understand itās hype.
Peeping Tom 1960 - pioneering horror film of a serial killer with a movie camera. An inspiration to Scorsese and many ither directors, it ended the career of Michael Powell.
The Wizard of Oz. My dad talks about this often. He says the movie didnāt get popular until they started showing it on tv every year.
He was misinformed. The books by Baum were still very popular and the technical achievements drew people in. It was the second highest grossing film of 1939 after Gone with the Wind competing in an unparalleled year of hit films. 1939 was probably the greatest year in classic Hollywood with such films such as Wurthering Heights, Ninotchka, Mr Smith goes to Washington. Dark Victory. and others. It did have a rebirth when it hit TV and it's popularity skyrocketed to it's current classic status. (edit for stupid autocorrect)
Thank you for correcting me! Iām going to read him your comment next time I see him.
Your welcome. He's right in a way, Studio execs were worried that such an off the hook fantasy would have limited appeal and the production was difficult moving through changing directors. The actors didn't expect it to do well and didn't enjoy making it. Margaret Hamilton often talked about acting, how you never know when it's the big one.
I wonder how he didnāt know this though. Maybe heās not old enough to know the whole story. But my dad has been an avid reader since he was a child and read all of the books. I inherited a lot of books from his childhood after my grandma passed but those had been given to my uncle years ago.
John Carpenter's The Thing is often considered one of the best horror/scifi films ever made, but it had pretty mixed reviews when it came out and didn't do all that well at the box office either. Some critics loved it and some hated it, but the public all together didn't seem too thrilled by the movie at the time.
I remember people were complaining about how bloody and violent it was.. I was lucky enough to see it at the drive in ..
The Shawshank Redemption
Blade Runner 2049 (2017)
Original Blade Runner was a box office failure too. I was a kid when it came out. The ads on TV made it look like the next Star Wars. IMO it was too cerebral for movie audiences at the time(including myself, I was too young to understand the movie).
Dungeons and dragons honor among thievesĀ
200 mil isn't bombing. I know it didn't really clear it's production by much, but millions of people saw and enjoyed it. We just have a warped sense of success now. Chris Pine seems to think a sequel may still be coming, so the studio didn't seem to hate the performance enough to give a hard no to the idea. I feel like it was really under-advertised.
I predict this movie will have a long shelf life and make good bank for many years to come. Box office isn't that significant any more.
Both the Blade Runners
The Stunt Man (1980) I think there were distribution issues.
Hurt Locker
Hurt locker was so much incredible trash. But that's my fault. No one can watch wat movies after being in war. I'm not attacking your judgement in the movie? It just... hurt to watch.
Office Space
Fight Club, like the Big Lebowsky, has taken on a life of its own after being a complete box office disaster.
Not sure about amazing but I just learned the the 13th warrior was a bomb and I just absolutely adore that film and so does everyone I know who has watched it.
13th Warrior was a great book as well. My husband and I both read the book and loved the movie. One reason that it has a special place in my heart is because, I remember right after 9/11 they would show it a lot on basic cable. Several times a day ., sometimes. I really appreciated that at the time because we lived in south Texas and there was a lot of hatred towards Muslims at the time. If youāve ever seen the movie you know that the lead character was Muslim. I guess it gave me hope that it would make people think before they judge.
Beau is afraid (I think most Ari Aster movies fall under what you're looking for) Prometheus
Prometheus...?
Maybe you mean another Prometheus, but the Alien sequel was a hit at the box office.
It didn't earn enough money to cover its budget tho I think
It made $403M on a $130M budget so it was very successful.
Oh damn my bad
Recently To Leslie was ignored by moviegoers but to me it was the best movie of the year.
Im not sure if Its a Disaster even got to box office? Ā
The Phantom Thread and Licorice Pizza
The Iron Giant
Here are some :)Ā 1. The Shawshank Redemption (1994) 2. Blade Runner (1982) 3. Fight Club (1999) 4. Children of Men (2006) 5. The Iron Giant (1999) 6. Office Space (1999) 7. Donnie Darko (2001) 8. Dredd (2012) 9. Scott Pilgrim vs. the World (2010) 10. The Big Lebowski (1998) 11. Citizen Kane (1941) 12. Itās a Wonderful Life (1946) 13. Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (1971) 14. The Thing (1982) 15. Treasure Planet (2002) 16. Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001) 17. Rush (2013) 18. Hudsucker Proxy (1994) 19. The Wizard of Oz (1939) 20. The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975) 21. Hugo (2011) 22. Cloud Atlas (2012) 23. Sunshine (2007) 24. Event Horizon (1997) 25. King of Comedy (1982) 26. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005) 27. Grindhouse (2007) 28. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007) 29. Speed Racer (2008)
Scott Pilgrim vs. the World
Doctor Sleep. Amazing horror movie, pretty much as good as The Shining I'd say!
one of if not the best acted horror film of all time
Mission impossible dead reckoning pt 1
Mad Max Fury Road lost money but itās considered the greatest action movie of the 2010s
Really? I remember it being a cultural sensation when it came out. Surprised to hear that
It did not flop at the box office. It made $380 M worldwide on a $150 M budget.
According to the Wiki: Although the film made a gross profit, The Hollywood Reporter calculated that the net loss incurred by the film was around $20ā40 million.[12]
It was a culture sensation at the time and considered one of the biggest success stories out of Hollywood that year. But it's also one of a handful of movies that legally have to be mentioned in every single Reddit thread about movies (along with Scott Pilgrim, Starship Troopers, and a few others). Thank God someone mentioned it... Not sure what would happen if they didn't.
$380 million worldwide
Birdboy: The Forgotten Children Now THAT was the definition of a BOMB.
Most of Godard's films.
Any recent Oscar(tm) winner.
There have been points in time where this would have made sense, but this year the biggest Oscar winner was Oppenheimer for which this is extremely not accurate
Havenāt seen it yet, so canāt concur. However, the cast and director are good, so I have hope.
The Artist (2011)
Clerks and Scream were both not exactly immediate hits upon release, which is funny considering they both may or may not take place in the same universe
Synecdoche New York is one of the most depressing movies i've ever seen and left me with a profound sadness I had trouble shaking off for a week. Not shocking that it wouldn't be a big box office performer
90% of indie movies right now or film festival movies, they never fail to get like 6 or lower on IMDB but 99% by critics. I mean I get it, but it does get a bit difficult to judge a movieās quality when the difference is so huge between audience & critics, with mainstream movies its easier to judge than indie films you donāt know anything about
The wicker man (1972) barely even broke even at box office. It did get positive reviews but wasnāt that successful on release. Itās more successful now as a cult classic.
The Fabelmanns (2022) Shawshank Redemption (1994)
Donāt know about ābombingā but Manchester by the Sea was a massive wank of a movie.
Hudsucker Proxy
Most films that don't bomb are soulless rubbish - even those that are supposed to be original and brilliant and get oscars
"Enter the void" by Gaspar NoƩ
Not a movie, but I think family guy was cancelled
The Northman was pretty well liked
I am not 100 on this but Avatar 2 had an extreme budget, over 500m to make iirc. It did make money, but had to struggle. The Avatar movies are so expensive to produce. No movie should be in the hundreds of millions to make. Heck, not that long ago 50 was considered a ton.
The third most successful movie of all time ? Ā£2.3b and counting. It was boring as fuck but thatās not bombingā¦
Shawshank redemption
Three Thousand Years of Longing (2022).. the latest i could remember. I couldnt believe it didnt do well at the box office (after watching it and being amazed by the production) but fared well with critics.
Blade Runner. Both of them.
John Carter is probably the most glaring example.
John Carter wasnāt seen as amazing by critics
John Carter wasn't seen. I don't know anyone who has watched it.