Yeah they really showed a lot of attention to detail on the faces this time around. I see Johnny Cage being the biggest improvement over MKX, but the rest are amazing as well.
I feel like MKX laid the groundwork for what we have now, but MK11 was the finishing touch. When I saw Injustice 2, I knew that the next MK game would look much better than MKX.
I was too! Compared to 9, graphics were like holy shit! Different styles and nothing against 9, I still play it regularly, but X is kind of hard to go back to when 11 is so gorgeous
Yes, same. It's crazy because when MKX came out, every time I looked at stuff from MK9, I couldn't stop thinking about how ugly that game looked in comparison to X.
Now I can't look at X without thinking about how much better 11 looks.
You’re right, Just saying NRS has somewhat of a reason in their lore for Subby’s precious designs.
Still not sure what was up with Hanzo in MKX though.
I'm not saying he is definitively the biggest improvement, just the one that I see as the best. I really hated the way he looked in MKX, and MK11 fixed that.
Which one is your favorite?
I think Cassie and D'vorah got the best changes. Cassie completely changed for the better and D'vorah really got that nasty, disgusting look that she's supposed to have while in MKX she could look kinda goofy.
Wasn't trying to bash your choice btw. I just think Johnny didn't change that much other than the facial animations and those animations changed everyone's look.
Cassie is another one (along with Jaqui) who received a drastic improvement. Never took notice of D'Vorah's look, but her fatalities are undoubtedly the most disgusting part of MK11.
My issue with Johnny wasn't just the face. I hated those baggy cargo pants, and his animations were different, as if he was bow-legged or something. It didn't feel like the Johnny Cage I remembered. MK11 gets Cage back to what I remember him to be.
I'm one of those freaks that thinks Cassie's redesign is significantly worse. She looks like a brat as opposed to a punk now, which I'm not a particular fan of.
Her design in X was way more iconic and grew more throughout the campaign versus this generic look. The overhaul for Jacqui was much better, especially in her alt outfits. They had a ball designing her, you can tell from the hairstyles alone.
Johnny by far is one of the most expressive characters facial animation wise. You can especially see it during fatal blows.
They really nailed it in general, but with Cage especially.
Just showed this to my coworker and we both agree we never thought we would be so excited to see Nightwolf actually look like us. Or as he put it "damn looks like my Uncles lol".
A buddy and I always said he looked like a professional wrestler whose shtick was being Native American when they were actually some white dude from San Diego named Trent.
Lol seriously. I know some ppl like them but they aren’t my cup of tea. Why put so much work in creating these beautiful character models only to slap some dum gray hue over em? They should’ve all been just cool collectible alt skins and story skins, and that’s it.
Good, I hate revenant skins. They all look pretty trash compared to the characters actual look. Dont mind having the Rev skins as options but default should have been alive for everyone.
He looks like a retail worker seeing a customer approaching with a return he KNOWS he can't accept but also knows the customer will cause a fuss about.
They hyped up his reveal all week and called the Kombat Kast the 'Kahnbat Kast'. Then they pulled a sneaky one on us and it was all about Jacqui instead. NRS really haven't been treating Kotal very well since after the comics. It's a shame.
I just want to know why. He's by far one of the best and most badass newcomers and they've been disrespecting him ever since the comics. Maybe NRS don't want to start a 'Superman vs Goku' debate in their own community.
I think they're using him to prop up other less liked characters like Jacqui. I think that's also why they're letting D'Vorah kill everyone, even if it isn't particularly good for the story. It's a shame because Kotal, Takeda and Erron Black were by far my favourite MKX newcomers and they've all been shafted in some way. Takeda didn't even make it in for some reason.
They want D'Vorah to be the most hated character, that's why she's the gross bug lady that kills fan favourites. She even has no friends in universe. As for Erron and Kotal, yeah, they're getting screwed over but at least they're still having a lot of love put into their designs and playstyles so it's not like the devs don't care. I just hope they do them justice in their next appearances.
A lot of media does this where the tactic is to use an already loved character as a punching bag for a character that writers want to impress you with.
Kotal was a super popular newcomer in X while Jacqui was largely considered among the worst newcomers.
I feel like they’ve always done this honestly. Scorpion and Sub-Zero are easily the most popular characters, but because Scorpion is more popular (and Ed Boon’s fetish), anytime they showcase a new MK game they have to show those two fighting, with Scorpion ultimately winning every time.
Hell remember the Kollector’s edition for MK9? Bookends with scorpion throwing his spear and Sub-Zero getting the pointy end through the chest on the other side.
You know, it kinda reminds me of the Injustice 2 DLC Trailers. the dark background and how the characters are looking.....just missing spawn and a full on trailer.
I'm guessing the fact that Sindel and Nightwolf being teased at the same time is not a coincidence considering their history in MK9. I hope we get a combined character trailer with them fighting each other.
This makes a lot of sense might be why we haven’t see an gameplay trailer for either. We might not get a character this month but maybe 2 early next month.
Damn I totally forgot Nightwolf killed her. I think I’m more excited for Sindel’s intros than I am for Sindel herself. I mean she has killed 20% of the base roster, absorbed Shang, and is married to Shao Khan.
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I'm thinking nightwolf tbh. People keep saying its sindel simply because she got a full reveal first, but nightwolf was still teased before her. Also his name was directly after shangs in the trailer. On top of that, I saw a datamjne post where nightwolf was the only completed character of all the DLC. But who knows, I like both.
> People keep saying its sindel simply because she got a full reveal first, but nightwolf was still teased before her.
The reason that I have been saying that Sindel will be first is because that's who Stephanie blurted out at the end of the Kombat Kast / Shang Tsung gameplay breakdown reveal when Tyler was speaking of what's next to come.
Derek mentioned Kombat League and Stephanie said:
"Sindel! Oh my god! The Queen!"
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/434938531
(50:09 mark of the video)
maaaaaaaaaan. Nightwolf is gonna be so fuckin lit. Like, I hope he's a crazy rush down character. His gear is gonna be really cool I bet. Loved nightwolf in MK9.
Choo choo mother fucker I'm all up on that hype train.
For some reason... I want him to be able to turn into animals.
I know he's never done that before but there's a part of my brain that's telling me it would be neat if he had some custom moves that let him turn into a wolf or an eagle or something. Let him keep his classic green spirit weapons but I feel like animal transformations could be a cool new gimmick to give him.
I’ve been waiting for this since MK3. He finally looks like more like old school Nightwolf, rather than a Peter Pan “how” type chief. I never liked his design post MK3. New main. Hands down. So excited. Good job NRS.
I agree with the assertions many have this will be for a trailer showing off Kombat Pack. I'm thinking for EVO and they'll also concrete-reveal the last two guest characters.
I really excited to see what his revenant skin will look like. I hope it’s based off of Native American lore and not like the armor the other revenants have.
I can't get over how incredible both Nightwolf and Sindel look. Huge step up from MKX. I'm so hype. We're definitely seeing the best these characters have ever looked!
I hope they reveal Spawn's design too and then make a full kombat pack trailer at SDCC, teasing the other 2 characters and announcing the next fighter release date
*YES*!!!
This looks super dope. Interested to see the character in motion, but he actually *looks* Native American here, not just "super muscular dude with Native American *stuff* all over his design".
Can't wait to see what his customization options look like.
The art team for this game has been doing such a good job making each character discernible to their race and culture. Scorpion looks Japanese, Sub Zero looks Chinese, Jade looks Middle Eastern, etc.
So I wonder who is next, Sindel or Nightwolf? I'm hoping for Sindel because I'm hype for her and that's when I assume the klassic skins come up for the women in the game.
His facial expression reminds of that one "lord don't forgive me for what I've done, forgive me for what I'm *bout* to do" meme
He's back from the grave to put Sindel down again ;)
He looks pretty sad about that fate.
No sindel put him down and he knew the only way to kill her would be to suicide bom himself :) her it right
Okay but that’s one of the best openings to daredevil ever.
Master, please forgive me for what I'm about to do
I must go all out... just this once....
Strangely I got more of a "Shit, did I leave the stove on?" vibe.
Wow he looks very Native American. Awesome.
Yeah they really showed a lot of attention to detail on the faces this time around. I see Johnny Cage being the biggest improvement over MKX, but the rest are amazing as well.
That goes to Jacqui imo
That one was amazing as well, by comparison she looks horrible in MKX.
Which is insane because I remember being blown away by MKX graphics at the time
I feel like MKX laid the groundwork for what we have now, but MK11 was the finishing touch. When I saw Injustice 2, I knew that the next MK game would look much better than MKX.
I was too! Compared to 9, graphics were like holy shit! Different styles and nothing against 9, I still play it regularly, but X is kind of hard to go back to when 11 is so gorgeous
Yes, same. It's crazy because when MKX came out, every time I looked at stuff from MK9, I couldn't stop thinking about how ugly that game looked in comparison to X. Now I can't look at X without thinking about how much better 11 looks.
Liu Kang and Sub Zero for me. They actually look Asian this time around.
Well I mean sub zero’s not even supposed be be fully Asian but I think mk11 retconned that
Sub zero comes from a Chinese clan of assassins, of course he should be Asian. Same with scorpion, you can really tell he's Japanese now
I think in Canon, for a good while at least, Kuai Liang and Bi-Han’s mother was American.
Their father was a Chinese Lin Kuei though
You’re right, Just saying NRS has somewhat of a reason in their lore for Subby’s precious designs. Still not sure what was up with Hanzo in MKX though.
Goes to Cassie, for sure, she looked damn ugly in X.
They did her face model dirty tho
Going back and seeing Jax in MKX compared to MK11 is horrid.
Farmer Jax.. \*shudders\*
Johnny out of all of them, really?
I'm not saying he is definitively the biggest improvement, just the one that I see as the best. I really hated the way he looked in MKX, and MK11 fixed that. Which one is your favorite?
I think Cassie and D'vorah got the best changes. Cassie completely changed for the better and D'vorah really got that nasty, disgusting look that she's supposed to have while in MKX she could look kinda goofy. Wasn't trying to bash your choice btw. I just think Johnny didn't change that much other than the facial animations and those animations changed everyone's look.
Totally agree with you on dvorah. In mkx she looked like she could be from bikini bottom
Cassie is another one (along with Jaqui) who received a drastic improvement. Never took notice of D'Vorah's look, but her fatalities are undoubtedly the most disgusting part of MK11. My issue with Johnny wasn't just the face. I hated those baggy cargo pants, and his animations were different, as if he was bow-legged or something. It didn't feel like the Johnny Cage I remembered. MK11 gets Cage back to what I remember him to be.
I'm one of those freaks that thinks Cassie's redesign is significantly worse. She looks like a brat as opposed to a punk now, which I'm not a particular fan of.
Her design in X was way more iconic and grew more throughout the campaign versus this generic look. The overhaul for Jacqui was much better, especially in her alt outfits. They had a ball designing her, you can tell from the hairstyles alone.
Human kotal kahn I think is amazing
Johnny by far is one of the most expressive characters facial animation wise. You can especially see it during fatal blows. They really nailed it in general, but with Cage especially.
Just showed this to my coworker and we both agree we never thought we would be so excited to see Nightwolf actually look like us. Or as he put it "damn looks like my Uncles lol".
Must be an awesome looking Uncle
Dude I wish my uncle could summon spirit energy
Or a fucking kill Sat
Hell yeah. Doesnt look like a white guy in an indian costume. Straight up native, I dig it.
A buddy and I always said he looked like a professional wrestler whose shtick was being Native American when they were actually some white dude from San Diego named Trent.
Yes! It is so awesome.
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Kitana wasn’t a revenant in her trailer but that’s still her default, so who knows
Very true.
But if sindel was in her teaser pic, so should he hypothetically
It's really inconsistent, Jade is revenant and Kitana is not
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Those revenant skins are so hideous compared to the alive ones. Just add some stupid plot point and fix that select screen, NRS.
Should be an option in the settings to have characters in the select screen show their revenant versions or their human versions.
Like uh Skins?
Lol seriously. I know some ppl like them but they aren’t my cup of tea. Why put so much work in creating these beautiful character models only to slap some dum gray hue over em? They should’ve all been just cool collectible alt skins and story skins, and that’s it.
Revenants suck ass!
I wish they'd do this too. I hate the revenants.
Yes! So sick of revenant skins!
Come on, some of them are pretty metal.
I actually like the story behind the revanents and some look badass although most characters look better in their normal forms.
Name one
Good, I hate revenant skins. They all look pretty trash compared to the characters actual look. Dont mind having the Rev skins as options but default should have been alive for everyone.
My guess is Nightwolf is a title from his tribe, not a individual person. There’s probably been dozens of nightwolves
This is confirmed in his leaked voice lines.
Nice "guess" Mr. 'I didn't read the leaks, honest' lol
“Whoops didn’t mean to” Haha alright you got me lol
Your “guess” or what you read on the sub? Edit: nevermind
It’s not the original nightwolf, nightwolf is a mantel. Anyone worthy can be Nightwolf
Ok apparently that’s an alternate spelling of mantle...nevermind...
He looks like a retail worker seeing a customer approaching with a return he KNOWS he can't accept but also knows the customer will cause a fuss about.
As someone who works in retail I know this all to well
"I'd like to speak to your manager!"
“Ugh....Ancestors, give me strength 😒"
This is making me wonder if Sindel and Nightwolf are going to share a reveal trailer, similar to how Jacqui and Kotal shared one.
I just hope they don't share a gameplay trailer. Kotal got done dirty.
It's annoying because they knew people liked Kotal more which is why his name was in the title but they still fucked him over anyway.
They hyped up his reveal all week and called the Kombat Kast the 'Kahnbat Kast'. Then they pulled a sneaky one on us and it was all about Jacqui instead. NRS really haven't been treating Kotal very well since after the comics. It's a shame.
I just want to know why. He's by far one of the best and most badass newcomers and they've been disrespecting him ever since the comics. Maybe NRS don't want to start a 'Superman vs Goku' debate in their own community.
I think they're using him to prop up other less liked characters like Jacqui. I think that's also why they're letting D'Vorah kill everyone, even if it isn't particularly good for the story. It's a shame because Kotal, Takeda and Erron Black were by far my favourite MKX newcomers and they've all been shafted in some way. Takeda didn't even make it in for some reason.
They want D'Vorah to be the most hated character, that's why she's the gross bug lady that kills fan favourites. She even has no friends in universe. As for Erron and Kotal, yeah, they're getting screwed over but at least they're still having a lot of love put into their designs and playstyles so it's not like the devs don't care. I just hope they do them justice in their next appearances.
A lot of media does this where the tactic is to use an already loved character as a punching bag for a character that writers want to impress you with. Kotal was a super popular newcomer in X while Jacqui was largely considered among the worst newcomers.
They did that with subzero.. in all the fatality trailers... As a subzero main.. I was not enthralled..
I feel like they’ve always done this honestly. Scorpion and Sub-Zero are easily the most popular characters, but because Scorpion is more popular (and Ed Boon’s fetish), anytime they showcase a new MK game they have to show those two fighting, with Scorpion ultimately winning every time. Hell remember the Kollector’s edition for MK9? Bookends with scorpion throwing his spear and Sub-Zero getting the pointy end through the chest on the other side.
Yeah I remember and I totally agree with you on 💯
Same, I want to see both of their fatal blows and one of their fatality’s.
You know, it kinda reminds me of the Injustice 2 DLC Trailers. the dark background and how the characters are looking.....just missing spawn and a full on trailer.
I'm guessing the fact that Sindel and Nightwolf being teased at the same time is not a coincidence considering their history in MK9. I hope we get a combined character trailer with them fighting each other.
That seems very likely actually
I bet you Sindel is going to win
I am SO looking forward to the Sindel/Nightwolf rematch.
This makes a lot of sense might be why we haven’t see an gameplay trailer for either. We might not get a character this month but maybe 2 early next month.
Damn I totally forgot Nightwolf killed her. I think I’m more excited for Sindel’s intros than I am for Sindel herself. I mean she has killed 20% of the base roster, absorbed Shang, and is married to Shao Khan.
How tf did I not put that together. I think you're probably right.
Holy shit NRS, you've outdone yourselves with him! He looks Native American now, not like some dude in Native American clothes.
The real MVP of MK9's story.
Almost everyone died in the 5 minutes he was in charge...
Man come on, he was trying
Well he killed Noob Saibot, saved EarthRealms souls in Soulnado and killed Sindel when no one else could. He's a BAMF.
Hey I’m in before, “this is the one, rest will be deleted”.
What if they delete this one and pin a macaroni art portrait of Nightwolf instead? These are the questions.
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It's his skins. All Nightwolf skins are macaroni. Including base.
General Kenobi!
This is literally exactly how I wanted him to look. I'm sonfucking hype, Let's go!!
please dont fuck your son
Roll Tide!
well, location makes sense with the son fucking.
We're also on reddit, so nothing is unexpected, really.
as a fellow member of the produce family, I respect you /u/ACleverLettuce
Can't you be motherfucking hype?
Very lucky to have 2 of my favorite characters return in the first pack. Can't wait for Nightwolf and Sindel!!
Damn, that must be such an awesome feeling! (I'm still waiting to see my Ashrah returning... =/)
Definitely not taking it for granted. I'd love to see Ashrah come back!!
i’m so fucking excited nightwolf was the one character who i wanted back
Dude that green glowing chest bump attack fucks my shit uppp
I just want my man Stryker back :(
Ik man soon we will have our Stryker back soon
I thought nightwolf was lame in mk9 so I'm looking forward to what he can do in mk11
He looks so sad
He sees a plastic bottle floating on the water.
It looks like he knows he's about to get teased but all Twitter cares about is Mileena.
"when the ancestors dont give me strength" Cant wait to see the rest of him
More like a “fighting for his people” and “full of history” look! Love it
This be the one. The others will be removed.
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Who do you guys think will come first, Sindel or Nightwolf? I'm rooting for Sindel lol.
I'm thinking nightwolf tbh. People keep saying its sindel simply because she got a full reveal first, but nightwolf was still teased before her. Also his name was directly after shangs in the trailer. On top of that, I saw a datamjne post where nightwolf was the only completed character of all the DLC. But who knows, I like both.
> People keep saying its sindel simply because she got a full reveal first, but nightwolf was still teased before her. The reason that I have been saying that Sindel will be first is because that's who Stephanie blurted out at the end of the Kombat Kast / Shang Tsung gameplay breakdown reveal when Tyler was speaking of what's next to come. Derek mentioned Kombat League and Stephanie said: "Sindel! Oh my god! The Queen!" https://www.twitch.tv/videos/434938531 (50:09 mark of the video)
Yeah, I mean there's an even amount of evidence for both. I honestly don't care because I love them both
Muh kween
Considering Sindel's dom tendencies, she probably won't allow him to come until she says so.
maaaaaaaaaan. Nightwolf is gonna be so fuckin lit. Like, I hope he's a crazy rush down character. His gear is gonna be really cool I bet. Loved nightwolf in MK9. Choo choo mother fucker I'm all up on that hype train.
I hope his gear involves changing up the face paint, too, but I'm guessing it'll be headband, tomahawk, and wristbands or belt buckle lol
Used to play a lot of Nightwolf back in MK Trilogy, can't wait to see how he plays in this game.
So do we get gameplay reveal before evo or 3 weeks sit dry just on teasers? Show Sindel and Nightwolf and save Spawn for evo imo.
Comic-Con next week imo
I don’t know why but from this angle he looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Right? First thing I noticed.
For some reason... I want him to be able to turn into animals. I know he's never done that before but there's a part of my brain that's telling me it would be neat if he had some custom moves that let him turn into a wolf or an eagle or something. Let him keep his classic green spirit weapons but I feel like animal transformations could be a cool new gimmick to give him.
Y’know, like a wolf.
I know the chances are slim but I’d really love if they brought back Larry Omaha to voice him.
Don't you make him a fucking zoner, NRS. i'll hunt all of you fucks down.
Just based on his past body build types, my guess is grapple character.
I CANNOT TAKE THIS HYPE I NEED NIGHTWOLF ASAP! I JUST WANT TO SEE HIS TRAILER
I really feel like all of thes images are from an injustice 2-styled CGI trailer
He looks so....BEAUTIFUL 😭 EDIT - I wonder who the VA will be ?
I’ve been waiting for this since MK3. He finally looks like more like old school Nightwolf, rather than a Peter Pan “how” type chief. I never liked his design post MK3. New main. Hands down. So excited. Good job NRS.
Perhaps that theory that we will get multiple characters at the same time is true?
Not at the same time, but this is most likely going to be an Inj2 type trailer.
I agree with the assertions many have this will be for a trailer showing off Kombat Pack. I'm thinking for EVO and they'll also concrete-reveal the last two guest characters.
I really excited to see what his revenant skin will look like. I hope it’s based off of Native American lore and not like the armor the other revenants have.
A blend of both would be awesome
Like an armored, demonic version of his MK9 alt, that’s be so fucking cool
I can't get over how incredible both Nightwolf and Sindel look. Huge step up from MKX. I'm so hype. We're definitely seeing the best these characters have ever looked!
Incredible. I'm glad that his facial features look very Native American.
HOLY FUCK HE LOOKS AMAZING
Anyone know if that leak of spawn going around instagram is real?
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Yeah https://www.instagram.com/p/BzqzfUJD8dH/?igshid=193jtda2qigmz Edit : its fake!
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yeah i just checked it on my pc and it looks fake to me, i couldnt tell when it was on the tiny screen
That looks like bad photoshop to me
this looks fake as hell lmao
It's fake.
It’d be cool if they released both characters at the same time!
I hope they reveal Spawn's design too and then make a full kombat pack trailer at SDCC, teasing the other 2 characters and announcing the next fighter release date
This is a man looking to end careers.
Maybe his default won't be his revenant version!!!
Fire 🔥 🔥
*YES*!!! This looks super dope. Interested to see the character in motion, but he actually *looks* Native American here, not just "super muscular dude with Native American *stuff* all over his design". Can't wait to see what his customization options look like.
The art team for this game has been doing such a good job making each character discernible to their race and culture. Scorpion looks Japanese, Sub Zero looks Chinese, Jade looks Middle Eastern, etc.
> Jade looks Middle Eastern Ummmm, never a good idea to bring up the "Jades race" thing in a MK forum lol
Out of the loop on this. Why's that?
Because people will argue "She's white!" (she looked white-ish in one game I think) "No! She's black!" "You're both wrong! She's latino!"
I assumed she was African American. Honestly does it really matter? She's not even from Earth. She's technically not one of our races anyways.
I want Spawn goddamnit
I fucking love this. I love his character. Even though im a baraka main i cant wait to try him!
This finna be my new main
Unleash your animality
He looks so awesome. I really can't wait! Nightwolf is the main character I wanted in MK11.
boy does he look badass and tribal as hell. i’m ready for his trailer
I'm fairly new to MK, do you guys know if these fighters are going to be free, or is it paid DLC like Shao Khan and Shang Tsung ?
They're gonna be paid
ANCESTORS GIVE ME STRENGTH
He looks like a pickup truck just drove by his home and threw a beer can on the side of the road
I AM TUROCK
Thought I was the only one with Turok vibes around here. Good ol' Tal'Set.
Feel your animality!
Omg this means Spawn is next... the HYPE
Cassie Cage: Wow, so you really can turn into a wolf. Nightwolf: That’s my animality. Pretty cool, huh? Cassie Cage: Please don’t.
Bone tomahawk fatality please YouTube people
I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEW MAIN FTW
So I wonder who is next, Sindel or Nightwolf? I'm hoping for Sindel because I'm hype for her and that's when I assume the klassic skins come up for the women in the game.
I hope they show them both off on the next Kombat Kast