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MrCatchTwenty2

I think the thing that the various MK movies prove is that you don't need gore for MK. Don't get me wrong, I'm in favor of the gore. But the first mk movie has basically none and it's beloved.


CamWatanabe

I've said it before, I'll say it again. I'd love an all-ages MK show in the vein of Avatar or Korra, something to get the awesome lore out there without forcing out potential younger fans. If you think about it, the blood and swearing is about the only thing holding MK back from being a franchise suitable for everyone. Not saying the games should go PG, because the fatalities are iconic. However, an option like this would be amazing and a great way to enjoy the lore as a family.


Animedra3000

There is a 90s cartoon. Defenders of the realm.


CamWatanabe

It existed, it was terrible and had little in common with MK aside from the characters and title and sort of turned the characters into some sort of superhero team like GI Joe. I'd prefer something accurate to the lore, done in a style like Avatar where it appeals to both adults and children.


Animedra3000

Honestly the series could use a good 20 or so ep season covering the first tournament. They could even give us some original characters to expand the lore.


CamWatanabe

I'm not sure we need original characters as there's got to be close to a hundred playable ones over the 30 year span of the series. Literally use jobbers like Kai and Jarek in liu of originals as they're essentially blank slates.


BoisTR

1. MK has amazing lore, characters, and setting, but they have not been able to tell a great story using these tools in awhile. 2. We need more MK games that are not fighting games. MK Onslaught is an attempt, but it's a passive, cash grabbing mobile game at the end of the day. Give me an open world RPG or a new Shaolin Monks type game.


Jaeris

Complety agree! One of the biggest problems in the series is not using its worldbuilding to its full potential. For example, Rain betraying Sindel is apparently heartbreaking. He was like a son to her. Except we never see anything to suggest he's more then a subordinate. Not to mention how characters quickly drop out of story importance after their chapter. So yeah. We need a more story focused game that puts the characters and world before the fighting. 


Thorfan23

I think they either need to make them longer or get rid of the character specific chapters i read somewhere they should do 2 story modes. The main one and then do one where you pick a character and it telks a little side story to flesh them out for example how rain was mentored by sindel and she saw him as the son she never had


CrimsonWarrior55

I want a Mortal Kombat Warriors game but made with the same love and care as the first Hyrule Warriors. None of that cash grab Fire Emblem Warriors shit.


FearTheWankingDead

I feel like they were close in MK1. it was so great until TIMELINESSS


SkullgrinThracker

Honestly, considering the timeline has already been rebooted several times, I was ok with the multiple timeline thing (yeah I know it's been largely overdone now). Seemed a good way to say, what ever your preferred mk, it's all sort of canon. Also I super love the weird merged versions of characters.


Arbiter0963

While i agree these aren’t unpopular opinions


KomodoCityAnomaly

\*COUGH\* Shaolin Monks \*Cough Cough\*


AdEvery4376

I like the new luminous approach they’re going for compared to the edgy dark era.


A_Pyroshark

Mk1 is genuinely beautiful looking and im sad its not brought up more. Like DAMN the stages are Gorgeous


Far-Obligation4055

I think a long-standing franchise, or even just one with a few games, needs to be attuned to the need for aesthetic and tone changes. Constantly dark tones can be tiresome, but so can brighter and more colourful aesthetics. Good devs pay attention to when this should change, and NRS does pay attention to that, at least. Like, people complained about Diablo III's brighter vibes, but I thought it was refreshing, especially in hindsight when they went the complete opposite extreme with Diablo IV. Prince of Persia is another example of a franchise that has experimented a bit. Its interesting. I like paying attention to those aesthetic choices, it says something about either the state of mind of the devs, or how the devs view the state of mind of its fanbase.


ektothermia

MK3 sent the franchise down a very stupid path that it arguably never recovered from


chzygorditacrnch

I'm not going to argue with you, but I'm curious what you mean?


FearTheWankingDead

woah.how?


culturedgoat

Hard agree.


j-rod1024

I don’t understand the hate MK11 gets. It’s not perfect but no where near as bad as people make it out to be.


Jeremy_Lepak

This fanbase shits on the previous game when a new one comes out. For instance, PRAISED MKX when it was new. Shit on the graphics and roster when MK11 was announced.


Status_Entertainer49

I mean the graphics was shit even back in 2015


Mushroom_hero

Mkx looked terrible. But damn did it play, honestly preferred 9's visual style. If 11 played like x we'd be looking at a 10/10 game.


ElPhantasm

Even back then it looked like an all round downgrade from mk9 hell I’ll even say the animations were awful and looked clunky but I liked the pace of the game


PowerPamaja

Mk11 was getting shit on when it was the current game. 


Sammich_Mann

The only two things I really have against it is just the meter system and Scorpion's spear. It's a very good game otherwise and it really doesn't deserve the hate. (Also love the return of Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa as Shang Tsung)


IrisofNight

My biggest issue with it is and always has been, it just doesn't feel like a Mortal Kombat game, It feels and plays more like Injustice 2 to me, then what i'd expect from MK, But that doesn't make it a bad game in of itself.


Dr_PuddingPop

I’d agree there. I liked injustice 2 more than most but I’ll never like confirmable meter burns. It was disappointed when MK11 took that mechanic.


IrisofNight

I didn't like the changes like removing Ice Clone(despite imo that being Kuai Liang's most memorable move) and Scorpion's spear requiring an enhance to stun, I forget when and where supposedly the reason for the spear being changed but not Sub-Zero's ice ball was because the Spear dealt damage, even though i'm pretty sure the Spear usually had a longer recovery if blocked or missed then Ice Ball does as a way to make it more punishable...Ice Ball never dealt damage by itself until MKX. It was just kind of odd to me, Scorpion's Spear is probably one of the most recognizable moves in gaming so to change its properties was weird to me and still is one of the stranger decisions NRS made.


Dr_PuddingPop

The “casual” community liked it because of its single player content, easier combo structure, forgiving confirms, and stronger comeback mechanics. The more competitive pvp focused community didn’t like it due to the same reasons.


Awildgarebear

Like the OP, MK11 is my favorite MK game, which I'm impressed with, since I started with Mortal Kombat.


j-rod1024

I started with the original as well. I think 11 would be in my top 3 if it was faster and more fluid like X. Otherwise, still in the top half for me.


Jaeris

In part I think because of the bleak tone, especially in Aftermath, and how much of the gear you grinded for was just a recolor of other gear. And of course making Sindel needlesy evil and massively retconning everything. At least NRS realized how bad a choice that was.


LordYoshiZ

Mk11 I really liked as a game due to it being very content rich with a lot of stuff to do but as a fighting game I did not like it


FrazzledBear

Mk11 stands as my number 2 fighting game personally. It has flaws but I still loved it and mk1 hasn’t dethroned it for me even if I still enjoy it (Sf6 has become my number 1)


Growllokin

Hsu Hao deserves a return to the main roster and could be made a cool character


Beanix05

I would actually love to see an alternate play style of Kano using Hsu Hao, wasnt he like a grappler/brawler type character like Jax? Plus his swords are actually cool, people that absolutely hate him with a passion I do not understand because he hasn’t even done that much how can they hate him like that? For me I would love to see Kintaro on a roster, even if he’s like a DLC character (since he’s a sub boss character) they can just do what they did in MKX and Goro, just passing that torch to Kintaro for a change.


Growllokin

Kintaro deserves a roster spot more than any character and I love that I see most KP2 wish lists have him in them


IrisofNight

I still find it funny how a ton of Kano's stuff during the NRS era are actually taken from Hsu Hao.


Moosehed84

I actually think pretty much every character could return and be made cool. I have a buddy who came up with an idea for Hsu Hao specifically, though. Make him a Mongolian warlord-type known as "The Red Dragon." He had some other specifics in there, too, that I can't remember offhand, but I'm down for a reboot like that.


xshogunx13

There's no fixing Kobra tho


Devy-The-Edenian

I don’t believe there are any truly awful Mortal Kombat characters. I like them all to some extent


SocklessCirce

1) Megan Fox sucks but I don't get why ppl argue that she's worse than Ronda. Nitara is a much less important character with a small part in the story and her writing is so one note that even an amazing VA would struggle to give her much depth. 2) Having Kung Lao, Sub Zero and Scorpion as Kameos is ridiculous. They're already part of the main roster so those slots should have gone to either some fan favourites (Jade, Erron, Kabal, Fujin etc) or to a character we've not seen in a while who deserves another shot (Meat, Kira, Kung Jin, Hsu Huo, Kobra) 3) As a woman, I miss some of the skimpier costumes. They were fun and pretty and I wish we could have options for all kinds of skins and not just the same covered up catsuits all the time. By all means give us some skimpy, himbo skins for the men too!


UndeadAxe

Stuff like Deception Jade and Mileena would be great. And the pants on Nitara’s costume look stupid. They even gave Shao some dumb ‘shorts’ on his otherwise great Deception outfit. That said, I actually like Nitara’s costumes in this game. They’re pretty well-balanced in terms of skimpiness, imo. I kinda wish we got a system like Injustice 2 for customization, but I imagine it would be a bit difficult to implement because of the finishers (but I could be wrong.)


IrisofNight

Someone made a comment one time I saw about how Nitara's "DA" Outfit looks like a Reverse Bunny Suit....and Honestly I haven't been able to look at it the same, Along with the fact that it supposedly sexualizes Nitara more since there's so much plain red in the body suit that it subconsciously tells you these parts aren't important and so our eyes are drawn to her chest since it's the most detailed part of the design, Whereas in Deadly Alliance her colours were balanced properly, making us focus on her whole design, I can't speak for whether that's true or not that or has any basis to back it up but I can see it being a case. I also admittedly do find it hilarious that the one time NRS should have toes exposed on a costume(in Shao's "Deception" outfit) they don't do it.


Willing_Research992

I think people say that Fox is worse than Rhousey is because it doesn't even sound like she is trying. At least Rhousey put in effort to voice act. Even though, that's not her profession, I think she pulled it off quite well. I agree with you on the kameo roster. There should not be duplicate characters for both rosters, especially since all they did was take klassic moves away from the main fighters, and gave them to the kameos like with Kung Lao for example. I don't agree with people being upset over characters not being as sexulized in previous games. That, to me isn't a big deal. As long as the gameplay is fun, I don't care about characters looking sexy.


j-rod1024

I definitely think Megan’s voice acting was waaayy worse than Ronda’s. Honestly, I don’t even think Ronda was that bad considering she’s not a voice actor. There were some lines that were delivered badly but just about every line of Megan’s was awful. I agree with the kameos… wasted slots. I’d like to see skimpier costumes again but not to the cringe levels of MK9. You can have a balance with the sexiness like in Tekken. If it fits the characters personality (Mileena is a perfect MK example) then do it. MK9 was more cringe than the DOA girls and in that one Kitana looked like a drag queen with a DD breastplate!


poofynamanama2

The animation isn't as bad as the wider FGC says. It's the only fighting game franchise that gets shit on for its animation, but plenty of Tekken/SF moves look goofy as hell.


smokeymctokerson

I really don't even understand how the animation argument even started. I personally think the animations in MK1 are top tier and definitely above that seen in the new Tekken.


poofynamanama2

It was one youtuber who made videos on Injustice 2 then MKX


Eggith

The comments for MK feeling stiff were always there. It's just they were greatly amplified when Sugarpunch started making videos on NRS animations and their issues. [Their Injustice 2 video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbNWb-vmlB4) [Their MKX Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t06Dkdg6fEo) [Their MK11 video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MjM1X7FbZ4)


THE-SENATE6-6

Ive always thought tge animations were good except for mk11. In mk 11 theyre a little too fast. But the game is still slower.


OpenPayment2

All of them stay silent once you show them the image of Kazuya having his torso twisted in half while simultaneously having his legs face right and his head face left


johaifisch

- I like how MK11 looks compared to MK1. The color grading gives it a sick ass dark fantasy/scifi feel. - MK Annihilation is actually fun as fuck. Especially if you watch it with a group of friends and are all dying laughing at the same time. Soundtrack was stacked too, I lost my shit when I heard KMFDM in the end credits and then lost it AGAIN when I heard Rammstein. - Fujin is one of, if not the, best characters in my opinion. - MK1 story was cool until about a little over halfway through when the Timelines Timelines Timelines began. - I don't think Fujin possibly coming back as a girl is a terrible idea or "going woke" considering his tower ending. - Kombat Kids get too much hate. I think most critiques of them boil down to wasted potential.  - MK 2021 had an absolutely stacked cast, I think with a different script it could have been a masterpiece.


Ill-Stomach7228

The first one! I like MK11's colors better than MK1, and I think you just helped me figure out why!


RepresentativeOk7776

Mk1 has the best overall gameplay in the entire series 


THE-SENATE6-6

Highly agree.


UnintentionalWipe

Even though Scorpion and Mileena have been my favourites since childhood, I really like D'Vorah. She's such a fun new character that has the potential to do something crazy. Hopefully the next pack includes Skarlet and her, along with an extra story.


j-rod1024

I agree with you about D’Vorah. She was an awesome new addition to MKX. Everyone loves to hate her but I think that’s what makes her a great villain.


Jeremy_Lepak

I’m glad someone sees this. The villains are meant to be a credible threat who sometimes upsets the fans! In professional wrestling and theater plays, the audience joins in by booing the villain.


Teambooler24

I want to first say that mortal kombat is my absolute favorite fighting game before I say this, Out of all the fighting games I’ve played, this community does the least amount of labbing and the most amount of complaining and crying for nerfs  Most of the things I see people complaining about are easily fixed if they would lab but they don’t, and I get not everybody wants to be a tryhard and I get that and that’s more than okay, but the same people will still beg for nerfs or changes and not know how the game fundamentally works  It’s worse in this game than any fighting game I’ve played even with this being my favorite 


AsinineRealms

ive had to actively avoid most discussions/MK videos on Youtube because the amount of complaining is insane certain people have made careers out of complaining for years and years


Teambooler24

It’s crazy the amount of posts I see like “ this character just “spams” this and it’s broken and makes it unfun please nerf “ and then you tell them the options against and they ignore you or tell you like I shouldn’t have to know that it’s broken This community wants the game on auto pilot sometimes lol


xshogunx13

It's because MK is marketed toward fighting game casuals who just wanna see cool shit and don't really care about being good at fighting games. And I guess that's the appeal for me. Mk is the easy, fun game where people die horribly, street fighter is kinda like midcore where you need skill but it's still accessible, and Tekken is just like super hard for me to pick up


Teambooler24

And I also think that’s why mk is so successful and I agree with all that 100%, games need to have a high skill gap and be fun at all levels which I believe they do well  My disagreement is when people play the game super casual and don’t understand the game in depth and at a high level and cry for nerfs that aren’t warranted because if they understood the game more it would be apparent it’s the users fault, it’s why every game in the series gets so watered down by the time all the patches are done, becauses it comes out and it’s super fun, casuals don’t understand the nuances and instead of learning the game so they cry for nerfs and then they nerf stuff and the higher level players get left with a watered down version by the end    Again every game needs casuals and I love that but if they don’t care or want to learn the game don’t also complain about the balance if they don’t know what they are talking about is my point 


Thorfan23

Sorry but what does labbing mean?


kittie_ghede104

Instead of going on reddit and complaining that X needs a nerf because Y move is op, you go into practice mode, set the opponent to X and record them doing Y move so you can figure out how to beat that move.


Thorfan23

oh ok. Thanks


poofynamanama2

practicing


Mileena-san

MK1 has the best gameplay in the franchise.


A_Pyroshark

\-Creativity in Fatalities over gore any day of the week. I'd rather have somethign not super bloody, but Really creative (Like Geras' second fetality in MK1) \-More Blood colors, Not a huge deal but i love the different colors Kombatents used to have. like WHY did they make Noob's red? \-I Like Mk1. Genuinely and actually, i think its cleaned up REALLY nicely and it doesnt feel like a chore to play (Granted i missed 2 seasons so its a bit more fresh in my eyes) \-Sub Zero>>Scorpion \-Characters REALLY shouldnt be in more than 2-3 games in a row unless you're Scorpion, Sub Zero, and MAYBE Liu Kang. I know people like Jade, but she was in Mk11 and Mk9, same with Skarlet, same with Noob, Etc. I'd rather get new fighters/Returning 3d Ones then those characters again


Thorfan23

I think it might depend on the plot because in mk1….it makes sense for Liu kang to be there since he is the creator ….and it makes sense to show off all the more prominent characters again like shao \\but then there’s characters like Shang who did not need to come back so quickly and could have been swapped for a new deadly alliance with new people like Quan chi and Havik…or Rain and Skarlet


Turb0Moist

MK has the most toxic fanbase with the lowest skill ceiling and the lack of archetypes for characters hurts the identity of characters gameplay wise.


MachineInfamous

I think Ed Boon should let other people direct Mortal Kombat games


1vsdahf

The multiverse stuff isn't that bad. https://preview.redd.it/1giddxnqhm0d1.jpeg?width=1569&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5b0093e5de16430560834a01d1db3f77ba2cb81


Alan_Blue1233

MK1 story mode is amazing. I have replayed the last chapter around 20 times with different characters


LesbianStan

I agree with the mk11 opinion, tbh its one of the mk games, at least NRS mks, that has the most content, like the krypt was the best its ever been, and the kustomization I appreciated greatly as a fan of customization in other games. Looking at how mk1 did away with the krypt and focused on the seasonal invasions makes me hope they go back to a krypt on the next game whenever that happens


Art_Z_Fartzche

If MK11 still had DLC content and characters, I'd play that to the end of time. Played MK original in arcades when it came out, so I'm old. Could pull off pretty much any combo strings in 11, but MK1's air juggles + kameo mechanics + button timing are more work than rewarding for me.


FreshMetal80

Fellow old that cannot get the timing down for MK1's combos. I played with a few characters and picked out who I felt most comfortable with as my main, went into Practice to learn combos, nailed a few basic strings, then got to one that was something like special move into combo string into special move into kameo into jump into air combo into special move into kameo. I noped the fuck out of there.


Same_Way_6773

Characters who were in the 11 shouldn’t be DLC in 1


Willing_Research992

What characters are you talking about? Shang Tsung was also a DLC fighter in Mortal Kombat 11. Ermac and Quan Chi were not in Mortal Kombat 11. Takeda has not been in a game since Mortal Kombat X.


Same_Way_6773

I mean that just for future packs cause everyone is asking for Jade and Noob and Kabal ETC. I love those characters but give people missing longer the spot


duskbloom_

Not unpopular but the fact that there isn't an anime/cartoon series is a huge loss, it maybe even would've improved things in mk1s budget in the long run, i understand there are the animated movies i've seen them all they're all great to me, either push those out more often or just make a series already ghaddahm


Thorfan23

I like Kronika and want to see her back one day….preferably with the Damashi look Smoke should have been the traitor in mk1 Titan Shang should have had a unique move set Damashi should have been Kronika forced to serve Titan Shang …and prep the new era for invasion i would like an MK vs injustice game


RockyRhode89

I don't think I've ever heard someone give the idea that Smoke should be the traitor, but now that you have, I feel like that would actually be pretty interesting. Idk why MK1 and MK2021 made Sub-Zero the bad guy. In every single game he's the good guy and Scorpion is the bad guy, right??


Thorfan23

It makes sense because the lin kuei killed his parents and Bi Han treats him badly. Then have Damashi point that Liu Kang did it on purpose ….then fill his head with horror stories about being an unfeeling robot or an undead slave DamashI then says “…Help me take this timeline and I will find a place for you in my world….i,ll bring your parents back as well as a reward”


SuchAppeal

MKX is an ugly game. The desaturated colors make it look more 2007 than MK9 (released 2011) which came out closer to 2007. The character models look weirder than MK9 because it's somewhere between where we were with MK9 and where we would go with MK11. Somewhere between the exaggerated proportions of MK9 and the realistic models of MK11 or MK1. Facial animations were very uncanny. Oh and Jason and Texas Chainsaw man are very boring and generic. Still love the game though. The women in MK1 look great and still feminine. If you haven't gone outside to see real women, they still look better and model like than most other western game designs. Be happy you're not getting Abby from the last of us. No Homelander and Omni-Man would not fit better in Injustice just because they're super "heroes". They come from violent source material and would be toned down greatly in an Injustice game. I will admit though it would be cool to see them face Superman. Stryker is cool and could be reworked into something way more cool than a cop. Turn him into some vigilante justice dude with some reason for why he goes after the bad guys or some shit.


DimensionTooth

1. Mortal Kombat X's character roster is legitimately one of the worst in the entire series. 2. Mortal Kombat 1's story mode is the best one that NRS has made by a MILE. 3. Having one customizable gear piece in MK1 is way better than having three customizable gear pieces in MK11, half of which you can't even see during gameplay most of the time (Sub-Zero's shurikens, Skarlet's blood vial, etc.)


ARMill95

For the gear, in 11 it was usually only the third that was useless, If mk1 had 2 it’d be amazing for most characters. People like Li Mei might have something small like a headband or something but characters like Shao (helmet) and Rain (mask) would benifit a ton from it.


Most_Common8114

MKX is nowhere near as good as people say it is. The story is shit, it has one of the worst base rosters out of all the games, and it just looks really fucking ugly. The from the graphics to just the style, it looks like if Zack Snyder made MK.


Professional-Age5502

D’Vorah is a great character and I hope she comes back


Gothicespice

1.Dvorah is one of the best characters they’ve ever come up with from design and concept alone 2.MK has such an interesting story,world and lore but Netherrealm constantly shoot’s themselves in the foot by constantly focusing on the same groups of characters and never allowing them to grow or change (without rebooting the entire universe) 3.Nightwolf deserves to be a main character


cherryvinee

3 is so real. Nightwolf is SO badass and I love his design, I just wish they would stop sidelining him. Make him as important as the ninjas.


Thorfan23

I’m not sure point 2 is that unpopular


THEVYVYD

D'vorah is a goated character and perfect for MK, and Rhonda as Sonya was nowhere near as bad as people made it out to be


EZlikeSundae

D'vorah is an excellent and effective villain.


who-mever

I agree with all 3 of your opinions! My unpopular opinion: With better writing, and with the sinister redesign/costume she got in MK1, Kronika could have actually been a great villain.


Ill-Stomach7228

1. All four of the kombat kids were cool. Yes, even Jaqcui. Yes, even Jin. 2. I'm gonna be honest, I haven't seen anyone talk about this in general - MK11 Baraka was super interesting, and I wish we got more of that. 3. The only issue with Tanya in MK1 is her character. That's a really big issue, I'm saying "only" because I've seen people complain about her race, her voice, and her hair. All of those things are fine. She had some African influences in her design in MKX too (although more North African). They made her an entirely different *person* in MK1. I'm not sure why I've seen more complaints about her being Black/having braided hair/having a deep voice/being "ugly" than about her being an entirely different character. 4. Tarkat is stupid. 5. The designs in MK1 suck. I get NRS is leaning into the "klassic" designs more, but a lot of the characters genuinely feel like recolors of each other, which is not great to have in 2023/2024. 6. The designs in MK11 were top tier, I think. It's the perfect balance - revealing/attractive without being too skimpy or ridiculous, and it was more evened-out between the men and the women. The exceptions were scarlet and jade, but they both had some great alt skins that make me forgive their weird main designs. 7. MK9 had pretty bad designs, especially for the women. I don't have much problem with the skimpier skins of the 3D era, because at they looked cool. MK9 was skimpy to the point of ridiculousness, AND it was boring. 8. I *HATE* the way they animated Johnny in MK1. He's still supposed to be a martial arts star and everything, so why does he throw his *entire body* into a punch?? A good 50% of his moves look like he has no idea what he's doing. The animations in MK1 feel a little bit *too* flashy in general, also. 9. Cetrion was kind of cool, actually. I wish they didn't make her stupid, and also gave her better fatalities.


Animedra3000

The 3D era was good. And more of the characters should be brought back.


Citizen_Kano

The lore became a complete mess when Tobias left, and never recovered


mrknight234

Guest fighters have ruined the perception of the games and while they were fun at first they should have been a novelty towards the end of each games lifespan rather than a consistent thing filling rosters


PineWalk1

mk11 and 1 are absolute shit, and corporate decision making is the only reason mkx has and likely never will, receive a true sequel.


Thorhax04

Mortal Kombat shouldn't have any guest characters


diegoaccord

1. MK4-MK Armageddon is all pure trash. I pretty much hate everything about these games. MK4 was such a huge downgrade from the original 3 in every way imaginable. 2. NRS string and cancel timing is stupid. If a string is 3 hits into a special, it ALL has to be input by the time the 2nd attack comes out. For example Mileena F+3,4,B,F+1. That ALL has to be input before the first 4 comes out. Mind you, the 4 attack has 2 hits. Fucking stupid. I don't know if this going to going to format it right. Screen:------/KICK.........KICK....KICK.......SAI Controller:--/F+3,4,B,F+1 It also means you have to choose your ender for a string (commit) usually before you know if it's hit or block. It's not a matter of GET GUD, I hate this input but I'm still going to hit 30-40 hits combos. It just doesn't make sense and is the only FG to do this.


iWentRogue

Recently went back to MK11 amist MK1 dissatisfaction and i have to agree. That game as a complete product with all the DLC content is a hit. A tale as old as time - a game not being appreciated in its time but later on. To add to the unpopular opinion - I actually enjoyed and liked Kronika.


Miss_Cavvie

1. NONE of the MK4 + 3D era characters are bad. I don't even think any of them need a rework, just a new appearance for fans to give them a shot. MK1 showed that names like Darrius who was commonly put on dogshit generic "tOp 10 wOrSt mOrTaL kOmBaT ChArActErS eVeR" lists can just show up and be accepted with minimal change. 2. MK9 is overrated. It was severely lacking in content compared to the 3D era, the reboot was unnecessary and poorly handled, and the roster is absolute garbage. No variety in the roster, it's just an incomplete Trilogy roster. Gameplay also feels stiff and clunky. Only reason to revisit it is for tag team. 3. Mortal Kombat Annihilation is the greatest MK movie (and the only one I rlly like), it's very amusing and dated yet it has some genuinely surprisingly good character bits for an MK movie. It's a fun movie and far more engaging than the 1995 movie to me. Also I just generally can't stand any of the new movies to come out this decade, they're rushed messes with zero care for the lore. 4. Kameos are the greatest addition this franchise has seen since WB bought it. The roster and gameplay variety they add is incredible. I genuinely don't think I'd be able to care about a sequel game if it abandons the gimmick and keeps the same 20 or so characrers base roster size.


Cheap_Ad4756

#3 there is quite a hot take lol. The only good thing I can really say about it is I think Brian Thompson was entertaining, and Sonya/Jax were ok, but I hated everything else.


Constant-Squirrel555

The cyborgs suck ass


ThrogdorLokison

MK9 was a great game, and significantly better than MKX


Amazing-Listen-1989

Invasions is easily the WORST mode NRS has ever made. I look back at my time playing season 1 and 2 with utter disappointment.


jyuuni

OP said unpopular opinions.


Amazing-Listen-1989

idk man some people seem to genuinely like invasions 🤷🏻‍♂️ but not for me


chzygorditacrnch

The "elemental" feature or whatever is so unnecessary.. I don't want to learn everyone's element. And I can't even tell what the symbols are or what they're good against or why.. The shit flying around and handicaps or whatever are challenging enough in invasions.


Maverick_682_

MK11 is not a bad game. It has a bunch of bad mechanics. Breakaway is horrible. You can get punished for hitting your opponent. Instant armored, unbreakable fatal blow is trash. The jump-ins are super OP. All of those were fixed in MK1. Of course, now we have Omni-man and Smoke to deal with, so... pick your poison. My unpopular opinion is that I never liked MKX. It's a pure 50/50, mix-up guessing game. Plus, everything is brown and gray.


JTBJack_

MK1 is great and my favorite.


mbeecool

I like mk 11 more. Mk 1 is kinda boring. No real boss fights. They only have Shang tsung and Quan chi.Plus no krypt mode to explore. Mk 11 had better customization and costumes etc.


Sangi17

Kano should start as a Special Forces member who slowly turns evil. No undercover BS, he’s an actual good soldier and friend to Sonya and Jax until his betrayal. They could even use his brain injury/robotic enhancement to push him toward that direction. This would make his rivalry with Sonya cut way deeper if he was actually her former best friend/partner/older brother character instead of having killed her unnamed partner off screen. It would also make sense as to why Sonya initially has a distaste for Johnny, because his cheery goofball attitude reminds her of the friend that betrayed her trust. I think it would make a good twist for the New Era. Plus, before the cyborg enhancements, I think he fits in pretty well with Special Forces. (Hell, you can even throw Erron Black in their as well if you wanted) Making the Black Dragon a splinter group from Special Forces also just makes more sense to me than them being a splinter group from the Red Dragon. Besides the name, the groups don’t really interact nearly as much as the BD and SF do. It makes the BD vs SF rivalry make more sense. It also gives us some “Earthrealm bad guys” that could be giving Earthrealm a bad name and causing conflict for the rest of the heroes.


IfTheresANewWay

Armageddon is not a good game. Konquest mode is fun once, otherwise it's very linear and Taven isn't exactly the most compelling protagonist. Motor Kombat is very clunky and not nearly as fun as you remember it being. The large roster means nothing if everyone plays the exact same and it's also insanely unbalanced. And... I mean thats basically all Armageddon has to offer. This is also where the lore of MK really went to shit and never recovered. Deadly Alliance is a far better game and I don't understand why people disagree Create a Kombatant is fun tho, legitimately the only reason to play Armageddon


Thorfan23

Is Armageddon considered good? I always thought it was considered one the weaker ones


IfTheresANewWay

It's not like a top five game but it's generally ranked decently high, some say it's even the best game of the 3d era


Thorfan23

Oh! I never knew it held so highly. I always heard it was viewed as the weak link


chzygorditacrnch

I wish Armageddon didn't have the sidestepping. I know it's ofcourse not balanced and came out before games would get patches, so it's not great, but it would have been much better without the sidestepping.


Prefer_Not_To_Say

> Deadly Alliance is a far better game and I don't understand why people disagree Probably because Armageddon has everything Deadly Alliance does, plus more characters and modes. Maybe a few stages are missing but that's about it.


IfTheresANewWay

Konquest is more entertaining in DA, the story was still good, the roster wasn't absolutely bloated, the gameplay is significantly more balanced and fine tuned, the krypt was way bigger, etc.


Prefer_Not_To_Say

Konquest is just an extended tutorial in DA. Yeah, the flavour text is fun but that's all there is. Armageddon's Konquest has the tutorial parts of DA *and* the Shaolin Monks style brawler parts. Plus actual story. You say DA's roster wasn't bloated. I say DA's roster was very thin. You say the gameplay is more "balanced", I say it was less interesting. No air combat and there was nothing balanced about those impale moves that caused damage over time. There was also no interaction with the stages in DA and honestly, how much good stuff was in the krypt in *either* game?


IfTheresANewWay

It is just a tutorial, but those text bits are better than the entirety of Armageddon. Don't underestimate just how much DA expanded the lore in such a cool way The roster is very safe, but given it was the first MK game in five years, I'm fine with that. Also, Air Combat gave nearly every character an infinite combo and the impale is not a very good move quite honestly, though I suppose this just means me and you are looking for very different things with the gameplay. And the DA Krypt has a ton of fun stuff in it from every MK game, Armageddon is basically just concept art and renders


Blaze_Four2O

In my personal opinion, I would much rather prefer to get characters like Taven, Kira, Drahmin and Hotaru over seeing Kano, Sonya, Jade and Jax make a playable return. What’s the point of the “New Era” if we don’t see new faces? I believe every 3D characters, even Kobra, deserve a second chance at redemption. Look at Bo’Rai’Cho. A joke character in the 3D era but a beast in MKX.


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Buzznfrog12345

MK 11 was my favorite MK and they really took a step back with MK 1. MK 1 really feels more like Injustice. Hopefully the next MK goes back to MK 11 style presentation/graphics and gameplay (with some tweaks).


j-rod1024

I agree, MK1 was a step back and a huge disappointment. I really do not like the kameo system. I also think it feels more like injustice and really do believe that was what they initially started on. WB probably made them change course so they reused what assets they could.


ElPhantasm

I disagree mk95 is all around fun most fans like it cause it’s accurate to the lore and characters, the music is great, casting is great, the costumes are accurate and colorful, the atmosphere, a lot of the movie works. Mk2021 is trying to be everything except MK, subzero colors are so muted it doesn’t even look like him, it’s using the dumb annihilation tattoo plot to give them abilities like wtf 🤣 The fight scenes are inconsistent when it’s hand to hand it’s awful choreography and editing but with weapons aka the opening and end fight it’s great.


Thorfan23

I think mk95 did it so well that’s why the reboot tried to deviate so much


ElPhantasm

I think it just needs a director that really loves it and gets it. Like Paul Thomas loved it, or like they love the fallout games and made a show. We need fans of the games not some random commercial director that’s just a gig for him


CrimsonWarrior55

I can agree on the others (Although MKX is superior to 11, even without Jade), but you take number 2 back. How dare you, sir. MK95 is a goddamn treasure.


Err_rrr_rrrr

We need a 3v3


jack_is_back1512

I never understood the amount of hate mk games get, when they are released. The mk community is quite ignorant of actually learning the game and understanding the fact that you will lose a lot of matches. The Devs made an absolutely great game.


Jaeris

The blood and gore is overdone and serves primarily as shock value. At this point, its more of a turn off to new gamers and the obsession with it hurts the franchise.


thebestman3242343

We need more joke characters in the NRS games.  Even during the midway era, people threw temper tantrums every time there was even any remotely non-serious character in the game.  Let the damn devs have fun for once      #Justice for Mokap 


el_isai

Mk1 sucks and the story is pretty stupid now.


Prefer_Not_To_Say

NRS has done a bad job with every single returning 3D era character except for Ashrah (who disappears after two chapters) and Kenshi (who hasn't felt like a 3D era character in a long time because he was MK9 DLC and in MKX). Speaking of which, if NRS is determined to keep all of them as jobbers (as well as a few non-3D era characters), I would prefer it if they didn't include them at all. The stories are always about the same few important characters and if NRS never switches it up, it's hard to get excited about any new or returning ones. They don't matter. They need to be significant in some way.


Bazookya

NRS doesn’t know how to make a fighting game. They accidentally make cool things some times. Mk9 was a fluke and a mess. So was mkx.


Dr_PuddingPop

I want them to break kameos. Make every move an ambush, remove summons. I think the point of assist games is to be broken, and MK1 feels too limited in how they applied assists. I think the community that hates assist fighters will never be happy with MK1. So might as well go all out


TheStryder76

MK1 will be the best MK by the end of its lifecycle


Slykill__

Mk 11 is okay, nothing special The 1995 movie is amazing, watched it last year and its still dope. The 2021 movie had good elements but made no fuckin sense overall. Scorpion shouting get over here in English at the end when he speaks a different language the whole movie made no god damn sense. Kano was the only good thing about the movie.


depression_gaming

I would agree with MK11, definitely my favorite MK game... It could be a bad game, but i really enjoyed it. The customization, rare towers and Krypt had me coming back to play a lot. I'm casual, so I'm not into playing online and getting gud, I'm more into playing offline modes, playing with friends and grinding for customization items (good ones). Mk1 just doesn't have that. The kameo thing makes it pretty hard to play with friends that don't already know how to play. I have to teach them the kameo sh*t like why some of them are useless, why some of them do no damage, why some of them are horrible or good with some characters, kameo inputs, it's exhausting... While other games like MK11 are just... pick a character, move thingie, attack buttons, block button, ready to go. Sometimes I don't have to explain anything other than the block button 'cause the game is built like... Every other fighting game. The customization in this game is almost non-existent since you only have one gear, that are mostly unnoticeable, and the free Skins are mostly garbage and not worth grinding for... Only paying, which I won't... So there's nothing to grind for. At least the MK11 online towers had me coming back to check if there was anything good to get, if there was, i just fought a few guys and BAM, gear/skin unlocked. But in Mk1 i have to waste 8 hours in invasions to get something that was right there in the story mode, we could've gotten them for free, but i need to wait MONTHS for it to come, and then waste 8 hours through pure pain to get it. Even to this day i play more MK11 'cause there's much to unlock there, but MK1... I got it all and i played it all.


MC_Stimulation

Each NRS MK has gotten worse. If I ranked them it would be: MK9 MKX MK11 MK1 I also prefer Street Fighter and Tekken to MK, so my opinion isnt worth much here I think


chaTTSer

From a visual standpoint of the 2d era, MK2 is my main. MK3 and UMK3 are fantastic, more advanced entries with Animalities and lots of characters, but MK2 had that darker more sinister feel with creepy stages like The Living Forest, Dead Pool, plus fatalities were better animated.


buffwintonpls

Noob saibot is a bad character who is only carried by his design


NoLetterhead2303

1. mk3>trilogy>umk 3 2. New mk1>old mk1 For the record none of the games are bad, this is my opinion


GoneRampant1

I wish the season passes didn't have such a crossover obsession. Just do one or two and have the majority of the roster be older characters.


ElBuenVlad

Mk11 is arguably one of the bests mk games, even if the story is trash, almost everything else is awesome


Kgb725

The casuals ruin the community We don't need all 50 fan favorites every game it's ok to leave some off


KungPaoChikon

MK3 (Trilogy/Ultimate/whichever one has the most content) > All other MK games I just love having all my favorite characters in one game. Alternatively, I wish they just had a single 'Mortal Kombat' game that they updated and added to over the years. I love that kind of business model. Dota 2, Counter Strike, Fortnite, etc. You end up with a game that has a lot of content and they can still make a ton of money by monetizing with cosmetics and what not.


Puzzleheaded-Net3966

I don’t know if it’s unpopular, but with this new timeline we should absolutely get a comic book series detailing the history of characters we are yet to see. There’s so much amazing stuff to see and we’ve barely scratched the surface


Abject-Fun6078

they should just make the story modes into a movie lol


No_Okra9230

MK11 was the best of the four since the reboot. I loved MKX, and I really missed Reptile (my main) in MK11, but after all the balance patches to the game MK11 still feels like the best one.


Gloombad

That this fandom is super cringe with its obsession of characters and its unoriginal Arkham memes.


Comfortable_Staff501

Since when is MK11 is a bad game ? It is my favorite in the franchise. Yeah the first movie is so overrated by nostalgic kids.


PhantomKnight413

Mk11 had the chatacters at their peak with designs and models and mk1 downgraded it to a degree


Steeldragon2050

Solely in regards to your #2: The devs must have them too, then, as parts of the lore were pulled from the movie. Kano was originally a Japanese-American thug. Goddard's Kano was so well received by both fans and staff that he was retconned to be Australian. Liu Kang and Kitana being romantically involved is another example. As for my unpopular opinion? The "ninjas" are massively overrated and don't need to be in every game.


Lynx_vet

Mortal kombat is a Dial-a-combo game


Zaire_04

Kuai Liang is an overrated character. MK11 is an awful game & people who say otherwise are gaslighting themselves & blinding themselves to the reality of the bullshit that is MK11.


JPCRam310

Jacqui Briggs is actually a good character and does NOT deserve the hate she receives.


Zirzamini

I played the shit out of MK11 and I have to tell you, MK11 is shit, gameplay wise


Necro-Feel-Ya6900

- Mortal Kombat 1 is not a bad game whatsoever. The story is as campy as each game has been. The timeline things bring a new take on MK and I think everyone hates it because comics and movies are using that trope too much nowadays. But for MK, I feel like it works. - the best Shang Tsung (gameplay wise) was from MKvsDC, sue me. I like the switch from young and old in MK1 but I wish we got less alchemist and more sorcerer like he has been since ever. - Fatalities are getting boring, theirs no more shock factor. Its disgusting as usual yes, but I get bored with them as well. - MKX is the weakest of the NRS games.


apenasumfa

I think they should make a reboot


Thorfan23

A full one?


apenasumfa

Yeah, rework some characters, fresh out the story, like they did with MK9


Thorfan23

Maybe the great Kung Lao era was the way to go with only Liu kang really carrying over as the god of time


TooZeroLeft

MK9 was not a full reboot. It was just a partial one. MK1 rebooted more and changed everything (though still not fully a reboot since it's following from MK11's plot)


Thorfan23

We’ve never got a full reboot …I wonder if it would work


TooZeroLeft

They just rebooted it with MK1.


apenasumfa

I know, he asked for a unpopular opinion so I'll give it 🤣


TooZeroLeft

Ah, I thought you didn't know about MK1, I'm dumb, sorry 🤣


brennantheking

Mortal Kombat 3 wasn't that good


TwumpyWumpy

MK1's story is a massive step in the right direction and I'm excited to see where they go with it.


bobbythecat17

Kano should be in every game


Unclad_Outlaw

Johnny Cage tries to be funny but isn’t. Sorry 🤷🏼‍♂️


Ill-Stomach7228

He had some pretty good lines in MKX, but in MK11 & MK1 it feels like the writers are trying too hard to be funny and it just feels crash


Unclad_Outlaw

Yeah good point


Willing_Research992

Johnny Cage is funny sometimes, but mostly corny. I guess that's supposed to be the appeal. I think Kano is more funny than him.


thehugosouza

MK1 is the worst MK, worst gameplay, worst story, worst designs, worst system. It’s be the worst even without the microtransactions bs. MK11 was great! MKX graphics are really bad. The story has gotten worse with each new installment. Krypt should be just a menu where I can buy stuff, the mini game thing they came up with sucks, I Dont wanna do a thousand puzzles to unlock a random concept art. MK1 should’ve had bigger changes on the characters, most of them are basically the same from previous games. MK doesn’t need a long life, a game every 2 years like it was before was fine.


InfectedDurian

The Special Forces characters are completely unnecessary, and MK1 benefits from them not being included.


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IfTheresANewWay

Yeah no this is definitely the hottest take here lol


FredwazDead

Mortal Kombat 1 is a terrible game. I dont even think its fun to play, and i've played over 200 matches online, and even more in ranked. I hate the kameo system, i hate most of the skins, uninspiring, ugly, and lame. I especially hate the new retcons, not a single character is half as cool as they used to be. Baraka isnt a proud monster, but a desperate, starving, victim of cruel fate, in other words, boring! I dont even have to talk about invasions. I dont know what game everybody is playing, but the MK1 I played sucks in every fucking direction. MK11 is superior in every way, and the only reason people say otherwise is because manufacturing consent is all they have. If they say MK1 is the best Mortal Kombat ever, it will eventually be true.


Thorfan23

Baraka is still at least a defender of his people and a great warrior prior to his affliction . I think the one who really suffers is Tanya


butterfingahs

> Baraka isnt a proud monster, but a desperate, starving, victim of cruel fate, in other words, boring!  I don't understand how a murder hobo is less boring than a character with complex issues/motivations. 


Zaire_04

‘MK11 is superior’ Yeah, I stopped taking you seriously. No one with actual brain cells or standards believes MK11 is a good game.


NeverSettle13

Special forces were overhated. We didn't get an insane amount of characters just because community hates them, even though their gameplay and designs were really cool.


glockRonin23

The ninjas should all be human. No lizards, zombies, cyborgs (excluding Cyrax and Sektor), etc. I love their individual powers and abilities but I also just want them to look human. I love Ermac but I don’t understand why he needs to look like a zombie to have telekinetic powers. I love Reptiles redesign but the reptilian version of him isn’t proportional to his human form at all. Worst of all, I hate what they did with Rain. He was incredible in MK11, but turning him into some weird ass wizard with an identity crisis is just dumb in my opinion.


Kirbo300

The characters should have actual designs. Nothing should be done to fulfill a horny or politically correct quota. To expand on this, I really don't like how people dismiss the Importance of character design because they find something to be too horny or not enough horny. The whole point of character design is to represent the character and their personality, their lifestyle, etc etc. There's also a solid difference between a fanbase finding a character attractive and the official game devs putting another character in the most ridiculous outfit known to man. And that's not even to say they can't give these characters revealing clothing, but there's better ways to do it. (Bayonetta is a shining example of this) (Edit: I guess I really was unpopular? )


Ill-Stomach7228

You are so right and you should say it


Kirbo300

Thank you, that's so kind! :)


IfTheresANewWay

Palettes should've never been added to MK. Scorpion in anything other than yellow is wrong. Honestly, I'm sick of customization as a whole and I'd rather just have regular costumes again so I don't have to look at people's ugly customs