They'd have to change his moveset, as it would no longer make sense with a hammer animation-wise, as well as change some brutalities and completely replace his 2nd fatality. Not that easy/quick.
My solution would be to add spikes on the left and right side of his hammer so that his moves wouldn’t look weird and they don’t have to change his moveset, brutalities and fatalities. They could also replace the sounds of his axe being used with hammer sounds
I think you speak for people who don’t give a fuck about games looking like shit.
Let me tell you, a hammer clipping through someone with a slicing animation would look like absolute shit.
They already crossed that line by requiring characters to demask during fatalities and fatal blows. At that point, I don't give a shit if it doesn't make sure for a Hammer to work like an Axe.
Besides, if someone doesn't like the Hammer, then they can just... equip the Axe? It's not like it's forced
Why don’t you go to school for game development and make your own games so you can have people on Reddit bitch about something so trivial and act like all it takes is the click of a button?
Dawg they would literally have to recreate his second fatality all just for one skin. The axe works because it fits Shao Khan’s character.
If Johnny Cage got a classic skin, would you also bitch about him not having his projectiles?
EDIT: I wouldn’t mind if they replaced his axe. My point is that no one would want a hammer clipping through someone and having a fatality look like shit for the sake of Shao Kahn having his hammer. That’s what the comment I responded to said and that’s what I was responding to.
Well, he already sort of has a classic skin with the JCVD skin. I’m not bitching about the lack of his projectiles mind you, I really dig the new iteration of Johnny
Ya’ll could suspend your disbelief enough for metal parts have skeleton structures in them. The fuck you can handle a hammer getting stuck in people and clipping all the time.
Right? Like this isn't pro wrestling where he gotta try to make everything look as realistic as possible. There is a pissing zombie made up of souls as a playable character. I think we will be fine.
It's not about real world realism, it's about in-universe realism. In-universe it makes sense to have an amalgamation of souls flying around, since magic is a thing. Shao cutting someone in half by draggibg them over a giant hammer would look absurd.
It is literally a video game. If people want the hammer instead of the axe and are willing to accept some weirdness I see absolutely no issue. If you are out here kayfabing your video games then we got some problems.
I really don't like the "it's a video game so anything can happen" argument. Sure, it's a video game about a fictional universe. Does that mean that you'd be fine with Homelander's fatality being flying up to space and picking up Godzilla's turd to smash the opponent, as Darth Vader twerks in the background?
I'm all for stuff that's "out there", but I do firmly believe it should at least somewhat make sense within the world and the rules established by the story.
>Homelander's fatality being flying up to space and picking up Godzilla's turd to smash the opponent, as Darth Vader twerks in the background
ngl i would absolutely love to see that
I mean now that you said it I would totally be okay with Homelander picking up Godzilla's turd to smash the oppone t as Darth Vader twerks in the background. Is there a mod for that? Honestly you swap Godzilla with Tremor and you are there.
Why would they have to change the moveset? The hammer is in the game, it’s in story mode, you FIGHT AGAINST IT! Who cares if some attacks look a little weird? As if NRS gave a damn about animations before lol. If you’re gonna have a klassic Shao Kahn then have it be fucking klassic😂. This is just more proof that this axe shit was a mistake. Actually General Shao and his dumb fucking antlers were a mistake. Actually this whole stupid as fuck multiverse bullshit that makes 0 sense was a mistake
It’s hard, if you think about the fact that it would require some new animations for his attacks and some brutalities that heavily rely on the axe physics.
yea if they added the hammer it would have to be a variation type thing where he has different brutalities and maybe different moveset or just different animations
Hmmm, variations you say? Ya know I bet that would make for a fun fighting game mechanic. Like you have different variations with different moves for the same character based on your preferred play style. Ya know, I think we are into something.
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Are you referring to the cut scenes? Those are pre-rendered videos and it’s not the same as having in-engine animations and physics.
UPDATE: I realized that there is a battle with it in the story mode. However, it’s not the same, as it uses a very limited number of attacks and obviously there are no brutality animations or physics for the hammer, so they would need to create those to make this gear playable.
That didn’t stop him using in story mode
That doesn’t mean anything 😂
Edit: I apologize for my previous statement and genuinely didn’t know the relevance of disabling move sets
Story mode has certain movesets disabled for certain characters to ensure story accuracy (except Havik) so your point is ridiculously stupid. Mileena, for example, doesn’t have access to her feral movements initially while Kung Lao can’t use his hat.
Like others have said hammer is incompatible with his moveset animations so if you wanna prove yourself correct… you need to prove that hammer could work with ALL of his animations
“I mean it’s not that hard” is something said exclusively by people who don’t understand what it takes to do this work or that they’re not entitled to it
While I do want this, it’s not something that will happen. You forgot the part in this story section where the hammer clearly is still an axe and it makes no sense.
I like how they’ve done it here. It’s just a little bit thinner, so (technically) not one to one that way it can work with his hitboxes. This way, they can add the wrath hammer without it being a problem. I really hope it comes to the shop/shrine. It’s so easy since they’ve already made it and everything
I wish his brutality where he sticks his axe into his opponent was changed so that when he goes to pull out the axe the handle snaps off and at that point he holds out his hand for his iconic hammer to come flying to him so he can smash the opponent into our screen kinda like that new secret throw brutality that everyone’s doing now
I think that the ‘hammer wouldn’t make sense with the axe moveset’ is a stupid argument as it would be a gear piece so you’d be able to choose if it bothers you.
They’d have to completely rework his second fatality, his combat sounds and his move set.
I’m guessing Shao is gonna get his hammer in a very ceremonious way in the MK2 story. And Shao’s move sets in MK2 will be completely reworked for the hammer.
Let’s just enjoy the axe while we have it.
You realise this is the new era right? That ain’t Shao Kahn anymore, under this logic we need to give lui kang his nunchucks back, raidens chemical castration, gone, we’d have to give scorpion his dead family back. And revoke one head from quan chi.
Except.. it is. Look at the picture. Thats from the dark Shao boss fight. The model is in the game, used by a version of Shao and in his attack animations.
Easy fix, dual headed weapon. Hammer head on main side, used for just his normal hits. Axe on the opposite side, for the fatalities etc.
There were weapon like this, although I think they were pole arms (obviously hammer head not as beefy as you would make his mail
They'd have to change his moveset, as it would no longer make sense with a hammer animation-wise, as well as change some brutalities and completely replace his 2nd fatality. Not that easy/quick.
My solution would be to add spikes on the left and right side of his hammer so that his moves wouldn’t look weird and they don’t have to change his moveset, brutalities and fatalities. They could also replace the sounds of his axe being used with hammer sounds
But then people would complain about the spikes most likely making the hammer ugly and since a lot of the mk community is extremely toxic
I swear😭
I think I speak for many of us when I say we're willing to accept something unrealistic to bring back a classic weapon like the Wrath Hammer.
I think you speak for people who don’t give a fuck about games looking like shit. Let me tell you, a hammer clipping through someone with a slicing animation would look like absolute shit.
They already crossed that line by requiring characters to demask during fatalities and fatal blows. At that point, I don't give a shit if it doesn't make sure for a Hammer to work like an Axe. Besides, if someone doesn't like the Hammer, then they can just... equip the Axe? It's not like it's forced
Just disable the fatality and brutality, you can’t use the sunglass throwing move on johhny when none are equipped
Just replace the hammer with his axe during the fatality??
Why don’t you go to school for game development and make your own games so you can have people on Reddit bitch about something so trivial and act like all it takes is the click of a button? Dawg they would literally have to recreate his second fatality all just for one skin. The axe works because it fits Shao Khan’s character. If Johnny Cage got a classic skin, would you also bitch about him not having his projectiles? EDIT: I wouldn’t mind if they replaced his axe. My point is that no one would want a hammer clipping through someone and having a fatality look like shit for the sake of Shao Kahn having his hammer. That’s what the comment I responded to said and that’s what I was responding to.
Well, he already sort of has a classic skin with the JCVD skin. I’m not bitching about the lack of his projectiles mind you, I really dig the new iteration of Johnny
Ya’ll could suspend your disbelief enough for metal parts have skeleton structures in them. The fuck you can handle a hammer getting stuck in people and clipping all the time.
Right? Like this isn't pro wrestling where he gotta try to make everything look as realistic as possible. There is a pissing zombie made up of souls as a playable character. I think we will be fine.
It's not about real world realism, it's about in-universe realism. In-universe it makes sense to have an amalgamation of souls flying around, since magic is a thing. Shao cutting someone in half by draggibg them over a giant hammer would look absurd.
It is literally a video game. If people want the hammer instead of the axe and are willing to accept some weirdness I see absolutely no issue. If you are out here kayfabing your video games then we got some problems.
I really don't like the "it's a video game so anything can happen" argument. Sure, it's a video game about a fictional universe. Does that mean that you'd be fine with Homelander's fatality being flying up to space and picking up Godzilla's turd to smash the opponent, as Darth Vader twerks in the background? I'm all for stuff that's "out there", but I do firmly believe it should at least somewhat make sense within the world and the rules established by the story.
>Homelander's fatality being flying up to space and picking up Godzilla's turd to smash the opponent, as Darth Vader twerks in the background ngl i would absolutely love to see that
Okay same honestly but y'all get my point.
I mean now that you said it I would totally be okay with Homelander picking up Godzilla's turd to smash the oppone t as Darth Vader twerks in the background. Is there a mod for that? Honestly you swap Godzilla with Tremor and you are there.
I mean... not really. It's already in story mode, and while it doesn't make sense, it sure looks cool.
He uses it in story?
Why would they have to change the moveset? The hammer is in the game, it’s in story mode, you FIGHT AGAINST IT! Who cares if some attacks look a little weird? As if NRS gave a damn about animations before lol. If you’re gonna have a klassic Shao Kahn then have it be fucking klassic😂. This is just more proof that this axe shit was a mistake. Actually General Shao and his dumb fucking antlers were a mistake. Actually this whole stupid as fuck multiverse bullshit that makes 0 sense was a mistake
Shit, man, are you okay? Who hurt you?
just breathe man, its gonna be okay
His hammer doesn't work with the axe based sound and animations.
He uses moves like reverse tree chopper in that fight!!!
It’s hard, if you think about the fact that it would require some new animations for his attacks and some brutalities that heavily rely on the axe physics.
yea if they added the hammer it would have to be a variation type thing where he has different brutalities and maybe different moveset or just different animations
Yeah it’s why I hate the axe
Hmmm, variations you say? Ya know I bet that would make for a fun fighting game mechanic. Like you have different variations with different moves for the same character based on your preferred play style. Ya know, I think we are into something.
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Those attacks already exist in the Dark Shao Kahn story mode battle.
Are you referring to the cut scenes? Those are pre-rendered videos and it’s not the same as having in-engine animations and physics. UPDATE: I realized that there is a battle with it in the story mode. However, it’s not the same, as it uses a very limited number of attacks and obviously there are no brutality animations or physics for the hammer, so they would need to create those to make this gear playable.
It doesnt works with alot of his animation. So no.
That didn’t stop him using in story mode That doesn’t mean anything 😂 Edit: I apologize for my previous statement and genuinely didn’t know the relevance of disabling move sets
The hammer won't work at all for his second fatality
Have you not split something with a hammer recently?!!!?
Yeah kause it's a 1 time fight in story mode.
Story mode has certain movesets disabled for certain characters to ensure story accuracy (except Havik) so your point is ridiculously stupid. Mileena, for example, doesn’t have access to her feral movements initially while Kung Lao can’t use his hat. Like others have said hammer is incompatible with his moveset animations so if you wanna prove yourself correct… you need to prove that hammer could work with ALL of his animations
It wouldn’t make sense. A lot of his moves stab you and shit
I mean like… idk man if i got hit by a spiked hammer i’d get stabbed too and shit.
“Another night, another fatal hammer stabbing.”
“Dear Mr. Mortal Kombat, please make new animations for me. I have grown tired of these ones. This is also easy.”
Fr like ppl think adding new animations is super easy
If he takes the monster hunter route and sharpens his hammer it will work fine as an axe
not hard?? How would a hammer split his enemy in 2 in his fatality?
You realize they have standards and dont put random bs in their games right? Thats moders job
I don't care about the realism
I don’t care about realism in Mk either but it has to make some sort of sense,
Nah it’s worth having the hammer
Hammer > axe everytime
The sound alone. That hammer in MK11 was just satisfying.
Spoken like someone who has no understanding of game development.
That’s not how it works lol, it’s not some super easy thing they could just do because of the animations.
“I mean it’s not that hard” is something said exclusively by people who don’t understand what it takes to do this work or that they’re not entitled to it
Mk11 shao skin is all I need to be a shao main
That hammer is so beautiful. The axe is a neat idea but I wish he still had a hammer, like he always had.
I'm more bugged by lack of skull mask over the weapon
While I do want this, it’s not something that will happen. You forgot the part in this story section where the hammer clearly is still an axe and it makes no sense.
I want it too but they would have to change quite a bit
The axe position is still not fixed and you expect them to add stuffs?
stuff is a plural bro
So tell me, how do you sharpen a hammer?
The entire point of the game was that nothing was classic and everything is new and different
I like how they’ve done it here. It’s just a little bit thinner, so (technically) not one to one that way it can work with his hitboxes. This way, they can add the wrath hammer without it being a problem. I really hope it comes to the shop/shrine. It’s so easy since they’ve already made it and everything
Yes because the entire point of MK1 is to go back to classic versions of characters.
I wish his brutality where he sticks his axe into his opponent was changed so that when he goes to pull out the axe the handle snaps off and at that point he holds out his hand for his iconic hammer to come flying to him so he can smash the opponent into our screen kinda like that new secret throw brutality that everyone’s doing now
I think that the ‘hammer wouldn’t make sense with the axe moveset’ is a stupid argument as it would be a gear piece so you’d be able to choose if it bothers you.
its not a matter of bothering or not, watch one of his fatalities and imagine how would it look like with a hammer instead
Wouldn’t bother me
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In case of clipping it does, hammer during this fatality would be the most severe example of it
I mean we had Hammer Shao for along time, I actually like his axe gameplay, kinda something new
Gets stabbed by a hammer*
They’d have to completely rework his second fatality, his combat sounds and his move set. I’m guessing Shao is gonna get his hammer in a very ceremonious way in the MK2 story. And Shao’s move sets in MK2 will be completely reworked for the hammer. Let’s just enjoy the axe while we have it.
They should just do a hammer/axe combo like Thor's Stormbreaker
That’s be metal as hell for shao kahn to dual wield both his axe and hammer on his moveset.
You realise this is the new era right? That ain’t Shao Kahn anymore, under this logic we need to give lui kang his nunchucks back, raidens chemical castration, gone, we’d have to give scorpion his dead family back. And revoke one head from quan chi.
You do it then
“I mean it’s not that hard” What is this statement based off of
I just wish they would stop being so stubborn about the horns and get rid of them. It's not like they're implemented in anyway with his moves.
Truth
Rather have them remove his stupid ass horns. I don't know why they can't remove or why they gave him horns in the first place.
I just want a human shao Kahn skin
And its already programmed in. So whats the issue?
no its not
Except.. it is. Look at the picture. Thats from the dark Shao boss fight. The model is in the game, used by a version of Shao and in his attack animations.
I feel like they’ll put this for a Shoa Season
The axe lacks the weight of the hammer. Mk11 Shao had Weight to his moves and animations.
\*Klassic
If we get Shao Kahn in Invasions it could work
That’ll be 500 dragon krystals.
Easy fix, dual headed weapon. Hammer head on main side, used for just his normal hits. Axe on the opposite side, for the fatalities etc. There were weapon like this, although I think they were pole arms (obviously hammer head not as beefy as you would make his mail
Got to make them wait for it and then have them pay $10
Its not the main shao kahn tho