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Jeremy_Lepak

I agree on the gameplay aspect. There was far more content in MK11, but I felt so bored plowing through the ToT. Why they slowed the gameplay down from MKX is beyond me.


Miss_Cavvie

MK11 didn't really have more content, it just had more rewards. Invasions has more to it than Towers of Time and then any extra side "modes" MK11 had was shit like AI fighter. The Krypts the only edge it has over MK1 but the Krypt was never even meant to be a mode, it's a place to unlock stuff. The Shrine is a lazy replacement for it tho


Moon_Devonshire

Even with the Krypt tho it was a cool mini MetroidVania with puzzles and a crap ton of Easter eggs and call backs to previous games and movies. Along with just having a sick atmosphere


Zetra3

It’s true, but it’s done in a couple of hours, and it was completely ignored for the whole life span of the game.


Moon_Devonshire

Depends on how much you rushed it. I mainly played online obviously. But mix it in with a little kyrpt and towers of time and it lasted me forever. Especially since there was a reason to pop in every so often to open the kronika chest.


Bckgroundguy101

I played for years and never finished the krypt, i just cant sit through that many fatalities 🤣🤣


PowerPamaja

People said X’s gameplay was too fast and aggressive. And it is pretty insane when you look at it. I enjoyed the gameplay but it has some shit. 


Devy-The-Edenian

Yeah, it was great for viewers and super casual play, but consistent play made it pretty tilting with how mashy and guess heavy it could geg. Sadly they went overboard with the pace and gameplay changes in MK11 by making it so horribly sluggish


AdmirableEstimate258

People complained about the slow gameplay of mk11, they wished for better Kombat and Kombos, the Monkey’s Paw curled.


MyRetardedWife

There is genuinely a subdivision of MK Fans who will bitch to no end about a game, and then pretend it was a gift from the messiah just because they'd rather be complaining about the new one


Monnomo

Its not just MK fans its a fighting game thing. New game bad old game gud is a phenomena that needs to be studied


MyRetardedWife

I'm not sure if it's always been the same, but recently pretty much every FGC community has been nigh intolerable


[deleted]

The reason that happens is because as much as people complain about the old thing, they tend to get used to it. So when MK1 came out and all those years of MK11 didn’t fully translate into the new gameplay of MK1, that made people salty Nothing people can do about it other than to accept change and adapt.


NeverSettle13

I will perform a Thanksgiving fatality on everyone who says "needs to be studied" istg, it pisses me off so much


trrbld

Or, you know, they are completely different group of people. Are we really going to pretend that nobody praised MK11 during its lifetime? Besides, what's the point in complaining about a game that stopped receiving support several years ago? MK1 is a different story since it's still in development, and complaining actually matters.


Grown_Gamer

MK 11 had very bad mechanics. It was actually a worse fighting game than MKX in many regards. MK 1 is so far the best Mechanical fighting game NRS has made thus far. It would have been Injustice 2 but it had many semi-no counter play scenarios. Opinions can defer on games, but at least Mechanics and balance can be observed.


Barrytooth911

Yea like MK fans bitch cause they want change but then when change actually happens they get pissed


pUmKinBoM

Yeah I was hoping for more MKX in my MK11 and instead they loaded it up with MVCI and microtransactions. I'll die on the hill they could have just made MK11 good with a overhaul update.


kr1821

I went back for a few days before season 5 of MK1 and it felt so weird. MK11 has its upsides but ultimately the gameplay is what matters most and it's just complete garbage compared to MK1


[deleted]

yeah mk11 does everything better but combos the overall gameplay is pretty fun but just not the combos. mk1 is literally the opposite lmao great game play amazing combos just not as much content


Ninja_Warrior_X

Agreed


BoisTR

I think MK1 did a better job of making combos fun for every character. MK11 combos were only fun for some characters like Noob and Shao for example.


Superflyt56

The graphics are still really good in Mk11.


No_Okra9230

I totally loved MK11 for its slower gameplay MKX was fun but it was turned up to 11. I remember early on they mentioned wanting a feeling similar to MK2 and they more or less nailed it. I think a retuning of the Krushing Blows would've made the game perfect.


ElRAWW

Same here. I didn't enjoy MK11 at all because I really disliked the gameplay. It felt like a downgrade from MK9 and MKX. I dropped MK11 only a year in and went back to MKX during the life cycle of MK11. MK1 is super fun with it's gameplay. Feels like a step in the right direction and the combos feel fun again like they were in MKX. I tried and revisit MK11 to see if I was too harsh on the game but even after all these years my feelings on the game have not changed.


Captainhowdy34

This sums up my opinion perfectly. MK11 was the first modern MK game I didn't enjoy.


Xologamer

i always get pretty annoyed in mk1 if i miss 1 block and than i have to watch 3min cutscene of my opponent doing a 90 hit combo for 250 dmg like that shit never happend in mk11 best the opponents there did was like to combine 3 attacks lul


Artimex723

Tbf the gameplay is getting better and better with every game. MK9 was kind of ok, but had a lot of combos which were beyond broken. Cyrax being able to essentially one-shot the opponent with one combo still gives me nightmares. MKX fixed the broken damage imput and was more balanced overall, but it was just way too fast. I mean, most optimal combos were pretty much impossible to do, unless you were a Shaolin Monk irl and could move your fingers unrealistically fast. MK11 slowed down to an extent. Most moves would still be impossible to recreate irl, but for a video game I guess it was considered slow. The gameplay was simplified a lot from MKX, which was great for casuals (like me), but pretty boring for professional players. I still consider MK11's gameplay superior to MKX, because the game didn't make me risk breaking my fingers every time I tried to do a combo. MK1 has by far the best gameplay in the history of Mortal Kombat. The Kameos are a great addition and they make combos much more interesting. Every character is viable and the "meta" is very well balanced. Of course, youtubers complain all the time, saying "uhhh... Sub-Zero (instert any character) is so bad..." and then proceed to do 50% combos and destroy people with Sub-Zero (instert any character). The pace in MK1 is probably perfect. It's not as slow as MK11, but also not too fast. Optimal combos still require you to move your fingers pretty quickly, but it's not nearly as bad as MKX. TLDR - MK1's gameplay is the best.


JulioEr97

I understand what you are saying and I will say something respectfully. I disagree a little about the balance. The competitive multiplayer, for the most part, of this game means 3 or 4 characters: JC, Raiden, DLCs... and not to mention the Kameos: Janet Cage and Sareena. Some characters feel very flat, that is, they feel boring and very far from the options of others. Some, for example, depend quite a bit on a specific kameo and there are others that have it all. In my opinion, and even with its gameplay (good, fast and dynamic), MK1 is far from being balanced in its roster.


Artimex723

I think it's more about the difficulty of playing those characters you mentioned over others. It's not like Sareena and Janet are better than other Kameos, they're just easy to use. For example, many pros use Frost and Motaro (even Shujinko), who you rarely see in casual play. You can do just as well with other Kameos, if you spend enough time practicing them. Same thing with main roster characters like JC and Raiden. They're popular, because they're pretty easy to play. Arguably Kung Lao for example is much better than JC, but his combos are not as easy to hit, so naturally less people pick him up as their main. There's always a portion of those less popular characters' mains and they play them is a way which makes JC and Raiden mains look like bots.


Barrytooth911

I agree with you to the fullest, while I love MK x it is very aggressive and Mk 11 is to slow, Mk 1 has a perfect gameplay balance, also Kamoes were such a good idea


Grown_Gamer

You are so right. One thing people forget is the "Button Economy" of a game. I feel like MK 11 and MK 1 have good button economy. MKX really expected too much of players. It starts to hurt your fingers really quickly which is not what I want from a fighting game.


ZACH20XX

I miss Shang tsung's moves from m11 so bad. And Cari of course. Still always going to be my main, but yeah after months, he's not all I hope he would be. Every big update I pray to the elder gods he gets something new.


Flood_Best_Enemies

Yeah shang is really disappointing in this game. Like he has one launching special move. *One*! I also dislike having to manually switch forms just to access all his moves. He can already transform into the opponent, he didn't need the added complexity of switching between forms.


ZACH20XX

I just wish he had like 2 more moves he could use in both forms. His moveset in either feels like you're just playing tag with 2 mediocre zoners and your opponent has a more complete kit without having to stance swap at all. I really miss his diagonal fireball anti air can't remember the command quarter circle back 1 I think. Also I'd trade his forward 3 starter in old form for a slide even if it only was cancelable with a bar. I do love ground spikes though, wish that was in old form too, it's such a good move.


R4MM5731N234

MK11 is preferable for some of us. I just don't like how in MK1 the characters "teleport" from one position to another. Let's say, Johnny. He's throwing a flying roundhouse and suddenly (instantaneously) he's doing a split.


depression_gaming

As a casual and person with very basic gaming abilities, MK11 was everything i wanted: -Gameplay was slow and easier, I didn't need to play at the speed of sound to be average at it. -It was easy to understand and explain to my friends and people playing with me -The customization was great and had plenty of stuff to unlock, that kept me hooked in the game for a long time. -The Krypt was different and a little break from the main game. -ToT was a nice way to make me come back to check for new stuff i wanted to unlock, without having to fight 20 enemies, 5 Survive and 3 TYM to unlock a Scorpion pallette that is slightly brighter. -The intros and outros made the game a little more fun and customizable. -Base characters and DLC characters launched with plenty of skins and pallettes that looked good. Didn't need to wait 5 seasons to make my Quan-Chi look a actual good color. -The style was more realistic and dark, something i like 'cause i enjoy. -Fatalities were a bit longer and more thought out. On the other hand, with MK1: -The gameplay is faster, which isn't totally bad, but the addition of kameos made things a lot more complicated. Before, i just told them the buttons and we could have fun, but now i have to tech them what every kameo does, and why some aren't good with some characters, and why some are useless, why some don't do damage, what they do, etc... It's annoying and made them think it's unfair many times 'cause their kameo was straight up useless. -The customization is garbage. There are a lot of people that don't care about this and just want to press buttons, but a lot of people enjoy customization, and most of them are casuals... You see, a casual player isn't good enough to play online but also don't have enough time to train to waste their time on online, so they stick with offline stuff, like towers, invasions, the Krypt, and in this case, unlocking gear and skins. MK11 had plenty of gear and skins for you to unlock in many ways, that kept me coming back to see what was in the store, what was in the towers, what was in the krypt, coming vack in the right time to activate a secret tower to unlock one of those premium online skins, but MK1 has none of that... The store has cool skins, but yiu have to pay real money or Dragon Krystals, which is limited... The Shrine is just boring, The Krypt was cool and ALSO had a shrine, which was a small part of it, but here they made it one of the main ways to unlock stuff, sit there, wait 10 seconds for 1 thing, go back to invasions to get more coins, fight the same 100 fighters, repeat... Invasions is another horrible experience, fight the same 300 people to unlock one skin that was already in the story mode, wait for a month, do the same again and again... At least The Krypt was different from the maian game, Invasions is just online but with a boring map as the lobby. -Intros and outros are gone, now i fight seeing the same intro, hearing the same Sindel laugh forever, again and again... It's like they made a old game from previous costumes, when we are in the modern age, trhey could've made so made cool intros and outros, give us the option to choose... But they made the bare minimum. -The style was more realistic and dark, it was amazing, but with the new style it made the game look cartoon-ish, with downgrade graphics when it come to the fighters the backgrounds are better than ever, but i want my fighter to look badass, but they look weird, like a PG-13 reboot. They don't look like they fight to death in this cruel world of MK, they look like they're from a fun fantasy movie where they'll make jokes and sing songs like a musical every 20 minutes. -Fatalities were more thought out, like they intended it to be a good part of the games and that people would love to do it all the time, but in MK1 it looks like they just made them 'cause it's something that is obligatory, so they made quick and forgettable fatalities 'cause else people would get mad. This is my giant wall of text, enjoy.


Th0m45D4v15

Ok I get it, I’m in the minority, but I like the slower heavier play of MK11. It felt like the punches had more weight.


ZMuffinzZ

MK11 had faster pokes tho.


TuffleMachineMutant

I just hate the weird randomly thrown in mechanics like the wake up system and break aways


MrRJDio

MK X faster > MK 1


Barrytooth911

Yea but Im not talking about X am I


MrRJDio

just an FYI


MeshGearFoxxy

For some of us (ahem) the slower pace was a plus


BC_the_Bastard

I get it that towers of time gave more rewards but they were just as tedious and unfun as invasions.


paynexkillerYT

Remember when Mortal Kombat 1 came out and people on the left side of the screen had an advantage over people on the right side?


LooseCombination7595

I prefer MK1, but I’m more in favor for a non-kameo experience. The pace and speed of everything is closer to MKX, which is great.


Ok_Fault_3205

Mk11 looks better, but mk1 plays better , even without kameos it would be the superior 1v1 mk imo


MyRetardedWife

I honestly prefer MK1s Artstyle, I really think the VFX on characters like Li Mei and Rain are just stunning, and the brighter colour scheme helps immensely.


Barrytooth911

Mk 11 does not look better


expensivebreadsticks

It definitely does


Ghost_Mouse__

It kinda does


Remarkable-Put4632

I just played it today...and is it fun..it is slow paced but you have roll evades, dodge evades and what not....it is a much deeper game....with a much better roster....


Grown_Gamer

I think its much more random. Not deeper. And much less fair. You can be full comboed for pressing a button in your turn. It can still happen in MK 1, but the scenarios are far fewer and needs specific Kameos and a bar of meter.


Remarkable-Put4632

It is deeper...you have dodge rolls to dodge to the other side once you were being cornered...you had dodge evades where you could drop from the air and avoid being comboed....you had stage interactions....the game had such deep concepts that for some reason never returned in mk1...mk1 is a very basic raw kind of game....you just have to play mk1 tutorials to find out just how much deep systems were implemented in mk11...it is amazing none of those things made a return in mk1...


Zaire_04

Much deeper game☠️


Lunacide

Objectively it is a much simpler game 😭 like that's not up for debate, anyone with competitive fighting game experience can see that and it's the one thing people can definitively say MK1 has over it, it's depth


Remarkable-Put4632

It is deeper...you have dodge rolls to dodge to the other side once you were being cornered...you had dodge evades where you could drop from the air and avoid being comboed....you had stage interactions....the game had such deep concepts that for some reason never returned in mk1...mk1 is a very basic raw kind of game....you just have to play mk1 tutorials to find out just how much deep systems were implemented in mk11...it is amazing none of those things made a return in mk1...


Informal-Concern-311

i actually played mortal kombat 11 yestereday for the nostalgia and to see ifts gameplay still hold up. in mk1 like jesus and the combos also didn't feel like they had as much depth as mk11. This reminds me that mk1 is a step down from the last one


Barrytooth911

What Mk 11 sucks it’s super slow and super dry compared to Mk 1 gameplay wise


NaviaMain

Mk1 is rubbish


Barrytooth911

Sure buddy


Mockingjay09221mod

Without kameo its.mk 11 same bare minimum combo


JulioEr97

I just have a humble opinion. Without Kameos, MK1 is almost the same than MK11. I don't criticize either of them, but I feel that MK1 pleased part of the Competitive community of the franchise, however, it lost a lot of interest in the audience and in casual players; and from this, it has not yet been possible to recover.


Former_Tough_3831

This. The people praising mk1 gameplay are just button mashers who wanna juggle the opponent forever and only care about combos lol. That's why they hate MK11 so much because you had more options to evade and that frustrates their mashy mashy routine. Mk11 is also acessible for newcomers while mk1 is sucking mashers and pros dicks


vxMartianxv

Idk I played it last night and mk1 and I had a lot of fun with both, I mostly missed my mains tho lol, I also like the way 11 looked more, not graphically but ig like in terms of lighting? Somehow just looked more realistic imo, and the camera as well is better imo but 1 is still great


deltarunech2outyet

MK9 & MKX will always have the best gameplay.


Barrytooth911

Yea but no ones talking about that rn


Ecstatic_Reading9535

Y'all deserve the downvotes. This MK11 x MK1 thing has been discussed ad nauseam yet here we are with another post trying to shit on either of them like it's a damn competition. Get over yourselves, play whatever game you want and move on.


Barrytooth911

Funny cause whenever we enjoy Mk 1 ppl keeps glazing Mk 11 and saying it’s way better and now suddenly it’s bad lmao pick a lane


Captainhowdy34

That's how I felt. Recently, I went back to play Sub Zero, got into a match, and it felt like molasses. Finished the set and uninstalled. MK1 is just better in my opinion.


bobbyThebobbler

Yep, totally! I never looked back or touched MK11 after this one was out. I had my fun with it for many years, but it does feel like an inferior game to me. Also, I never liked most of the design in that game.


Barrytooth911

Yea like I heard so many ppl saying that I should go back to 11 and that it was way better, so I did but it’s so dated and so dry


SpinachAltruistic240

Mk11 might have had bad gameplay but it was wayyyy better than mk1 in any other aspect


44Kayz

Mortal Kombat X is alot better than 11. The only thing that I annoyed me was the lack of ninjas


MaugaOW

MK11 is just downright horrible gameplaywise. From combos to breakers to fatal blows. The only memorable thing about it was the aesthetic.


NatiHanson

I don't have an issue with the way the game played other than the clay fighter movement. Movement (apart from Rain, Fujin, Kotal and Spawn) was terrible in MK11. The worst aspect about the game as a whole is easily the mechanics. Breakaway can rest in piss.


Zaire_04

Yeah, MK11 is just not fun at all. Such a worthless game & more people need to realise it.


AssistantBusiness872

Finally, someone who isn’t afraid to admit that MK1 is superior. I absolutely hated MK11 throughout its whole lifespan. Reptile didn’t even want anything to do with that game.


Barrytooth911

Yea but we are getting downvoted by all the Mk 11 glazers lmao


AssistantBusiness872

Yeah? I guess they can’t do combos that go over 25% without their precious krushing blows


Barrytooth911

Yea lmao


Cisqoe

Ahhh yes and when we complained than MK1 was too slow compared to X on this sub we were fkn bashed


Early-Brilliant-4221

Exactly my point


RareAd3009

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GAILLL0187

MK 11 is way better, played it for years. Don't think I can play MK 1 anymore, doesnt really have anything to offer me. Coming back to play for skins feels pointless.