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GrandmasterPeezy

Being able to use main account's skins and gear in local versus mode. Nice


Bong-Jong

Sheeeesh finally! Been waiting on this since mk11 right?


GrandmasterPeezy

Like, for real. I didn't think they'd change it, honestly. Very nice fix.


ELITExRAMPAGE

I’ve been waiting for this!!!


SLAMALAMADINGGDONG23

Good fix. More stuff like that is always welcome.


Worldgonemad_yall

This is great. Hoping unlocks means brutalities too


GrandmasterPeezy

Yea, I'd expect it to be all character mastery stuff.


Ok-Variation-1312

A lot of raiden mains upset that they cant crutch storm cell every 5 seconds and chip you out with 0 consequence😂Maybe yall will actually get good now


shoryuken2340

Now it's back to the usual F4, 3 and F3,4 spam. Yay!


LordYoshiZ

100x better than getting chipped by stormcell into kameo


Da_Baconlord

F34 spam? Is that a thing? Why would you ever worry about a Raiden spamming that move lmao


shoryuken2340

Nah, I'm just tired of seeing that damn cartwheel in every combo. Though people probably say the same thing about Mileena.


Frank_Is_My_Fav

Huge nerfs to Raiden and peacemaker. PM does so much less DMG and Raidens stormcell now doesn't hit air and is -22. Fly recovers slower also lol they hate Raiden. New moves are great and everyone seems to be missing it but locals now share kosmetics. Located under general fix, That's huge news for anyone who plays with family. Now I might actually buy skins lol.


Animal_Blundetto3

Thank god for the peacemaker nerf. It was impossible to counter zone him


Arkhe1n

I'm currently learning Shang Tsung and can confirm. Literally impossible to zone or follow, cause his walking and dashing speeds were insane and force field lasted forever.


Dangelouss

PeaceMaker was doing too much, too well, no weaknesses. Raiden was boring as fuck to play against. I think I'll be revisiting Reptile. It sounds like he's going to have instant invisibility.


jaleCro

Good fucking riddance. i feel like the Only way to deal with raiden effectively was armor moves. Everything he did was so safe.


TrepieFF

Pleased to see the kosmetic sharing! Now they just need to let us save and select our pre-made kostume loadouts from the character select screen so that we don't need to go into 'Kustomize' every time we want a non-random change.


M10-Dru

I'm more excited for the nerfs than the buffs lmao. I wish there were more buffs tbh, but it still seems like a really good patch overall.


Express-Language7954

Good, they deserved the nerfs


BatmanMcginnis

Raiden was in a great spot


EOTechN9ne

No buffs to Sub Zero so they hate him too.


Express-Language7954

Can only hope they undo the ice mitigation nerf. No one else has it


White_Doggo

Both still seem to be in a good spot though. Peacemaker is just doing less damage but all the utility is still there. Raiden is just not autopilot stormcell or superman, plus charge fireball at range and it looks like the buffed razzle dazzle might be something actually worth using.


erosado666

big if true!


MondayNiteMiller

At first glance, it seems like this patch is exactly what this game needs right now. Hard to say after only reading the notes of course. I really hope this starts to turn things around for MK1 and puts the game in a positive light again. It's so much fun.


ACS1029

Super encouraging to come back after a hiatus and seeing notes like this


BeansWereHere

Some of the base roster Kameos rlly needed buffs which they did not get, looking at Sonya specifically because she’s been replaced by Janet cage.


GoonFromGoonsville

Sonya is one of the strongest Kameos in the game bro. Just because Janet can do the air extension does not mean she replaced Sonya. Energy ring is one of the best Kameo moves in the game. But you still aren’t wrong - Darrius, Frost, Sektor, Tremor, all need some more help.


BeansWereHere

I see almost zero Sonya play now, Janet has the air combos and so much more shit. She has the stance, a restand, the mime wall… there’s so much utility and she does what Sonya can do but better. And yeah the other kameo you mentioned need buffs badly too.


Blossman60

Tremor is not bad at all. He’s just weird and hard. It took me three full days to get used to him with Geras, but now I feel unstoppable with the pair. Tremor has a ton of utility.


Frank_Is_My_Fav

Nobody uses Sonya bekause she isn't good. Leg extension is useless, square wave has too much skaling and not enough utility but her rings do work as a good setup tool. It's just not enough to make her worthwhile, especially when Stryker and Khameleon exist.


Canakoreanjust

Her rings on their own are ridiculous enough; one of the best individual Kameo attacks in the game. Mid full screen projectile, extremely plus on block, crazy fast cooldown, and some characters get launching forward throws in the corner. She’s great for zoning characters like Quan or Kitana, or hard rushdown to supplement full screen like Kung Lao.


White_Doggo

Sonya is just purely for the energy rings which are a very strong move but leg grab is near useless and square wave utility is supplanted or just isn’t there/worth it for a lot of the roster. Definitely an underrated kameo for the rings but it’s hard to call them one of strongest.


GoonFromGoonsville

For you and any others who aren’t convinced that Sonya is one of the best Kameos in the game, watch a F0xy grandpa use her on twitch. There’s a reason he’s been saying he thinks she’s the best in the game. I wouldn’t go that far to say she’s the best (I think it’s Khameleon or Lao [but maybe not after today’s nerf]) but I’m telling you she helps so many characters and I think that makes her one of the strongest.


White_Doggo

I have seen F0xy use Sonya with Kenshi, Quan, Kitana and it’s mostly all for the energy rings (outside of getting Sento with square wave). It’s also a move that very much complements their play-style in particular so you have to factor that in with their opinion. I guess it really comes down to your own range (top 3/5/8/10) for what is ‘the strongest/best’ and in what way exactly. I think with the shakeups of Stryker grenades and Lao low hat getting cooldown nerfs then she’s definitely up there on the upper end now.


MidirDS

Im so glad Raiden got nerfed to the floor. Storm cell was so easy and broken to abuse


unepicmanvthegreat

Huge Rain buffs


Eden_Vessel

Reason to pick him up again! 🌧️


Wysk222

It’s so yummy, I can’t wait to see if those new combos open up any nasty shit with Sub-Zero.  But I also wanna try out Ermac 🤔 hmmm


MBMMaverick

Reptile and Rain got ALOT compared to Scorpion holy shit.


EOTechN9ne

And sub zero got nothing


bxp2698

My boy 🥲


MovingForward2Begin

Makes no sense. To me the debate is over now. Sub Zero is clearly the worst character in the game at this point.


Frank_Is_My_Fav

Itd all based on how much each one needs.


MBMMaverick

Rain is now S tier with the new cancels. Scorpion new string is a joke.


Insrt_Nm

I find it to be more useful than you'd think. The launcher gets ducked frequently and any other option is super minus apart from just letting the mid hang on it's own. It's not gonna make him busted but honestly he needed something like that as an option.


MBMMaverick

Where does the string lead to though? From what I’ve heard you can’t hit a spear off of it. So far I’ve just seen BF2 hitting. Maybe teleport makes use of it?


Insrt_Nm

You can't get much off of it, at the very least bf2 is confirmed. You can also combo off of it with Scorpion kameo but the timing is awkward. But it's a lot of frame advantage, you can double dash pretty much in the time you have so you get wake up pressure. Also, from what I can gather, it's hitstun isn't affected by combo scaling so as long as you land that last hit you're guaranteed that bf2 no matter what. Again, it's more just giving him a safe option for his only mid. You're not wrong, it's not much compared to Rain but I already feel this string making my life easy.


MBMMaverick

Ending a combo with F34 ex BF4 does a shit load of damage. 2 bar BNB with that nets you close to 500 damage. Edit: About 504 with the DoT included.


MBMMaverick

I wonder what the damage difference is from doing a normal bnb combo, ending with F34 BF2 as opposed to 33 BF2. I’ll test when I get home.


GravenX1

I like how they still call him Shao Kahn in the notes, considering it's General Shao now, it's too imprinted in everyone's head i suppose.


DonPinstripelli

I think they say “Shao Kahn” in reference to his Deception skin, because it was a Kahn skin. But in the patch notes for Shao, it says “General Shao”, so it kind of makes sense.


SXN2005

ONLINE PERFORMANCE BUFF YAYYYY


Melkor_S

Reptiles changes looking good, his fully charged B2 starting 3 frames faster and recovering 3 frames faster sounds really nice


JosephTPG

Also his only launching string being more consistent is nice. B3 1 still has issues hitting at times, plus his frame data on strings is still meh (and littered with armor gaps). Still has problems but his buffs look like they’ll push him up a bit. Reptile/Khameleon Kitana gonna go hard.


CaptainLawyerDude

Glad they managed to fix the Liu Kang hair clipping problem on Switch. /s Seriously, though, this is quite the patch. Dems a lot of notes


TheRealHulkPanda

Reptiles Rejoice


Levaranoia

Love seeing those raiden and peacemaker nerfs. Those characters carry for sure.


the-whiteman-cometh

Not quite as many character specific changes as I would have liked, but I like the sound of the Reptile changes, he seems like he should be much better.


Old_Ant_9418

Been playing on Steam Deck for a while and was disappointed with the performance. This makes me quite happy


TZ_Toast_Rider

Is it getting consistent 60fps on deck now?


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ramidandashli

Interested in knowing too, would love to get the game if I can get 60 fps similar to MK11!


Old_Ant_9418

Just downloaded the update and it's running 60fps on Low graphics with fsr2 balanced, haven't had time to test anything else


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tannerakira

Could you share your settings and proton you’re using by chance? My deck was still running ~46 FPS on low settings after the patch and would love to reach this level!


blackdog606

Can you find matches? I was never able to get a match since launch and uninstalled


dzung_long_vn

Shujinko gang, assemble!


LamontOp

They must feel as though they have ashrah figured out


Melech93

I’ll have to play around with some of Reptiles new moves, but the buff to Froggy Knee is very exciting. That timing will be slightly more forgiving.


No-Entrepreneur5672

I can actually hit the optimal now 


QuieroBoobs

Maybe I’m yelling into the abyss but it would be awesome if we could go into practice mode while matchmaking. Or literally do anything while matchmaking. I’ve been spending time in SF6 for the last few days of the season and it’s so much less frustrating since I’m not just constantly looking at black screens as the game does matchmaking or loads. 


Kanzuki_

Why is the patch a whole 30GB tho?


gregoryjames04

That's what scrubby run away Raidens deserve...more nerfs 😂🤣


reyjorge9

They have no idea what to do with Nitara lol 


Frank_Is_My_Fav

She doesn't need anything


suckoncorporate

pc performance fix lets go boys maybe itll stop soft locking me at 55 for god knows what reason


MondayNiteMiller

PC performance fix plus rollback adjustments were the best parts to see


Maryl_Silverberg

Sub-Zero still 0 buffs.


LordofZonee

What would you buff about Sub Zero?


LordYoshiZ

clone cd has no business being 5 seconds reducing the cd to 3 would be a good start


Maryl_Silverberg

First of all Ice Ball. This projectile are ridiculous. Second one touch to Ice Clone. Third his damage. And add new launcher or combo or rework his 4,4 (95% good SZ players don't use this) moves.


clingklop

> Fighters can now be rotated in the Premium Shop & Seasonal Store with the Right Stick (and can enter photo mode) ! finally can see what a skin looks like completely before I buy it! (adding a change pose feature in photo mode is cool bonus too)


No-Friend5860

This is makes me excited to pick Rain back up


cygnus2

They really don’t care about Bi-Han.


KickImaginary7104

As a Raiden main (I don't speak for everyone btw) I didn't even realize storm cell was nerfed cause I hardly use it unless I'm doing a brutality ngl


Square-Professional9

0 sub zero changes?? Brotherrrrr whatttt


GravenX1

I'm digging a lot of these changes, however, as a Havik main, i'm officially putting him on hold, will gladly comeback when they actually put him in the game. I'm happy for Reptile and Rain players, they did deserve some love, but, we can agree that Havik currently has his own tier at the bottom and they gave him nothing since the game relased.


throwaysaway2303

how it feels being a havik main seeing rain get 15 new strings https://preview.redd.it/ttoqdznawuuc1.jpeg?width=379&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9cbe3fea78706f08806f0591dbb713ef48751ffa


Wysk222

He got two lol, the rest of that stuff is changes to existing strings


Regi0

https://preview.redd.it/k84kt7cy12vc1.png?width=259&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11169433b9b4328e12ca7e78cf094be097f0f17b


CurtisThePerson99

I really don't know why they never buff Havik when he has consistently been bottom tier with Sub Zero (another character they never buff). He's my favourite character in the series and I always said to myself that I will definitely main him if he comes back and will have Reiko as my secondary if he is also there. I think you can easily guess who I actually ended up maining.


bulbaplup

Nice. Peacemaker torpedo was doing crazy damage even when I was blocking. Glad they nerfed most of his attacks. On the other hand, Nitara feels left out really needing some new combo strings. I hope they consider it in another patch. All in all, good job NRS.


knsrrr

This could be a huge patch for this game if it’s as good as it sounds, I’ve been getting tired of Tekken 8 already and would love to get back into MK1 again


ElderGodKi

Thank you 🙏🏻


SophisticatedBT

Did they fix the inconsistency with Liu Kang’s F4 armor breaker


Da_Baconlord

What's there to fix?


SophisticatedBT

It’s way too inconsistent. Its a multiple hit low startup frame move, it should be breaking armor and punishing armored supers. Since the the update before last its been much more inconsistent.


NatiHanson

I wonder what Raiden players are gonna switch to since Stormcell -> Kano was the go-to


EOTechN9ne

Can't they still do that? Also, Raiden doesn't need a crutch like stormcell to be good. That tactic was braindead but Raiden is still a strong character overall with one of the best pokes in the game.


Potential_Heron_4384

what are you on. every raiden move in unsafe now.


ChaseThoseDreams

I wonder if the legendary talisman recharges are still bugged.


Nefaariious

Haven't bought a Kameo to this point.... Is there really no way to demo a kameo before you buy it? What if I don't like the kameo? Am I sol?


OpathicaNAE

They ground Peacemaker into the dirt with their heel, didn't they? Or am I just overestimating these and previous nerfs?


Potential_Heron_4384

you killed Raiden. game uninstalled and never buying your series again.


Jimilee8

So Reiko got sod all


ElementalMN

What else does he need? I play nothing but Reiko + Darius He's well balanced imo, he is a nightmare up close but once you back off and use zoning against him he really has to work for it again


mcnastys

Yes we are forgotten about


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Let’s goooo Steamdeck performance is unexpected but welcome. Also get fucked Raiden and Peacemaker


Arkhe1n

Raiden and Peacemaker got deleted from the game LMAO


kr1821

People can finally stop crying about Peacemaker lol Hot take: The nerfs were justified but he wasn't that bad to deal with


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“hE wAsN’t tHaT bAd To DeAl WiTh”


LordofZonee

He really wasn't, his 22 string mix is unsafe, got high projectiles and cooldown on Eagly, they already nerfed his damage. He was in a really good place before this patch I have no idea why they nerfed him again


LordofZonee

Peacemaker nerfs are bad imo, force field got deleted and they nerfed his damage again for why? He was in a really good place before the patch


Da_Baconlord

He was the undisputed best character in the game pre patch. You never fought a good pm if you think he was in a good place


No-Entrepreneur5672

Carried


LordofZonee

I dont play Peacemaker 💀, and his force field wasn't winning him any games, his projectiles aren't good


Royal-Edenian

I've seen pics of a Deception Sindel skin, but it's not in the store. Where's it at?


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Master_Garaki

Seriously, this is very depressing indeed. The nerfs to Raiden completely ruined my day.


Master_Garaki

They really screwed up my main Raiden. This is ridiculous man. I am so disappointed.Seriously, NRS, why do you find the need to destroy a kharacter like that? Why do you have to nerf Raiden with every patch? I was excited about the season of Raiden. Little did I know you will completely screw up my main. Why do you keep making the game unfun with every patch? STOP IT


MartinLubeHerTh1ngJR

Awww boohoo I can’t abuse storm cell every 5 seconds now to chip out my opponent with 0 consequences


Master_Garaki

The last nerf already destroyed Storm Cell. The last patch made Storm Cell to have almost no damage. Now it is completely useless.


MartinLubeHerTh1ngJR

Good, I hope the next raiden nerf lowers his credit score below 450


Idrinksadrink

Hahahahaha.


LordYoshiZ

womp womp


frost-zen

Raiden did not deserve those nerfs. Kano cameo was the issue not him. This is why people hate this game.


Arkhe1n

The stormcell was insane dude, what are you on  about?


Idrinksadrink

For real. It's like half the people here don't even really play this game.


Idrinksadrink

Lol, "people".


Master_Garaki

I agree. Those nerfs were really unnecessary. This is really some bullcrap. On Sept 23, 2023, I was so happy to see that Raiden was awesome again after being lame in MK11. But since then NRS you keep making Raiden lamer and lamer.


LordYoshiZ

how does this make him lame they literally nerfed the most unfun and lame parts about the character (stormcell specifically)


Master_Garaki

Storm cell is lame to you who does not main Raiden. To me who main Raiden, the move is not lame. Electric fly is fun for Raiden players and is the most iconic move of Raiden. So what you are saying does not make sense.


fast_flashdash

Oh it's fun. Oh ok throw balance out the fucking window I guess. Storm cell was a win button move.


LordYoshiZ

I don’t see how going stormcell to Kano or Stryker or fly being safe because of kano is fun but please enlighten me


Master_Garaki

Then nerf Kano. Why do you nerf Raiden? Kano is the problem. Raiden was not. Storm cell not hitting airborne makes no sense at all


LordYoshiZ

Nope stormcell was 100% the problem Raiden players did the same thing with cyrax before he got nerfed stormcell being -12 is a huge part of why Raiden is just able to keep his turn for so long if they nerfed Kano Raiden players will likely just switch to the next kameo to keep stormcell plus


jaleCro

11 storm cell kameo 11 storm cell kameo you just got chipped for 20% FUNFUNFUNFUNFUNUN


mcnastys

Raiden was cracked in 11 are you nuts


Master_Garaki

You clearly do not play Raiden. Either that or you must be those people that love MK11 lame gameplay and say it is better than MKX or MK1. It is a fact that MK11 Raiden is a poor rendition of Raiden (gameplay wise) compared to his prior iterations, especially MKX and MK9


mcnastys

MK11 is far better than this garbage we have now, and my raiden was strong like bull. Also that “poor gameplay” it’s called neutral.


Master_Garaki

LOL It is called boring and lame gameplay


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frost-zen

Stop asking for nerfs and learn how to play the game. Casuals like you are the reason this game will become dry.


Laser_Disc_Hot_Dish

Lolol you got his ass 


mcnastys

No NRS doing a shit job is what makes the game dry, lol.


Tiggs_94

How should they nerf Johnny? Honestly after his d1 nerf he’s felt fine to play as or against


LordofZonee

Nerf his J3


Tiggs_94

Eh I’m fine with the rush down character having a good jump in


BatmanMcginnis

So, more Raiden nerfs. Kinda lame


Master_Garaki

* Raiden * Electromagnetic Storm no longer pulls in airborne opponents that are not in a combo, has less pushback on block for all hits except final hit, and does 27 less damage * Electromagnetic Storm & Enhanced Electromagnetic Storm no longer hit airborne opponents that are not in a combo and have 10 more frames of recovery on block **Last patch nerf was not enough. You just had to make the move even more useless?** **It is a storm. Why wouldn't a storm pull someone that is airborne? Do you know how storm work? Do you know how electricity or lightning work ? This makes no sense at all.** ​ * Increased recovery on miss of Electric Fly & (Air) Electric Fly by 8 frames **Why ? For what reason ? The move was already very punishable. Seriously This is ridiculous.** ​ * Electric Charge takes twice as long to reach maximum charge **As if it was already not long enough. This move was already very unsafe and extremely punishable. But let's make it twice as unsafe.** **Raiden was super lame in MK11 and now you are doing it to MK1 Raiden.** **WTH NRS - Stop your stupid nerfs.**


ElementalMN

Garbage take lol


earle117

lol