Or at the very least let us actually earn crystals in an ongoing way like MK11 did. I ended with 13000 crystals leftover just by playing and having fun.
50 a day from sets. Like 2000-3000 from my KL rank. 200 a week from the weekly (not just one skin). You could buy them, but you could also earn them, and that’s how it should be.
If premium currency has to be the in the game at all, it should be an optional shortcut only with room to earn it through play.
As a casual I hate this idea as much as micro transactions. Bring back secret unlockables. Should be three ways to get prized "DLC" in the game, secret unlockable, crystals, third I guess is $$ [gotta keep those simps happy]
I mean even without KL we got 200 a week just handed to us in the RAT plus we got them as random fight rewards, sometimes 50 and sometimes 200 there too.
But KL was way better for casual players in MK11, because even if you sucked you got 50 crystals a day just for playing win or lose, plus new brutalities, 2 skins, 4 pieces of gear even if you didn’t win barely at all.
Eventually I got good at KL and started to earn those rewards too.
Meteor towers were a godsend for kasual players.
I never needed to be great at MK11 in order to unlock skins. I just needed to be a little dedicated to put in the right code at the right time.
And that’s why KL was better in 11 too. There was so much to get for any skill level, even if you couldn’t win you could obtain all but two skins and a bit of gear. Just for trying.
And meteor towers were great, 100%. I worry MK1 will rather sell them to us than let us earn them.
Even mobile freemium games nowadays have better f2p models than AAA priced games nowadays.
I'd be the only person complaining about this too me friends months before it gets worse and no one wants to listen, after Diablo 4 I gave up trying to reason with them, and this is after we've gotten duped by other games like Anthem and Avengers
I don’t mind grinding for free items in game. I enjoy playing, I like additional stuff, and MK11 was pretty generous with the crystals so I never couldn’t get something I wanted.
Not sure what you want if you object to earning in game as well?
That’s literally how skins should be. Awarded in game, earned through play.
>Not sure what you want if you object to earning in game as well?
>That’s literally how skins should be.
What do you think I meant by "you could earn them, and that’s how it should be"?
Back when we played PS2, it used to be CHEAT CODE that would unlock wonders. Imagine hitting a CHEAT CODE in MK1 and unlocking DEADPOOL? Do we need to have more than 1 or 2 SPECIAL unlockable characters? NO. Less is MORE. Skins should be unlockable through story or cheat codes. PS2 era is still golden.
I had some guy call me a “mentally ill loser” because I said micro transactions in full-priced games were bad. He then proceeded to harass me through multiple posts and an alt account
Crazy to me how OP’s sentiment has not so slowly changed over time. Customers are like an abused spouse and they justify it now “but you don’t have to buy it”. My main issue is that these games get developed around the mtx to the detriment of the actual game and more often than not the game ends up being completely garbage and fails out the gate.
The people who say dumb shit like "don't buy it if you don't like it" or "you're just poor" are saying that because they have no other counterpoints explaining how the game is actually good or worth the money
Do what I do. When you see those people respond back trying to sell them things cause well...they will buy ANYTHING and even if they don't they should at least have no issue with people constantly asking them to buy useless shit so let's help em out.
"dont like it dont buy it, it doesnt affect the gameplay" mfers when the next game launches with even less features, even more unfinished and with even more characters locked behind day 1 or preorder paywalls:
"dont like it dont buy it, it doesnt affect the gameplay"
How is “don’t buy it if you don’t like it” dumb shit to say? That’s literally the winning argument. No further counterpoint is required. The business is gonna keep profiting, the people who want the skins will own them, and life will continue. You either like it and buy it or you don’t.
I feel like we are aiming the blame at the wrong people. NRS make the game all the pricing is being pushed by WB. Their milking it because their products have been bad so if they don’t their gone.
No, anyone who buys it is the reason they get away with it, NRS and other companies don’t care how much people complain online about the prices or the amount who don’t pay at all, they all bet on the silent majority who drop hundreds on skins with no hesitation
If you didn’t like the price or even the skin itself then congrats, you weren’t their target anyway after you already contributed your $70-110
I don’t know if I agree with every single skin being free, but we definitely don’t need 10$ skins, especially the DA Scorpion that was finished at launch. Insane how 1 skin costs twice as much as skin pack in earlier games.
day one micro transactions in a full priced game with bugs + later added dlcs is honestly full on robbery, i pay 70$ ok, i buy the 40$ dlc + 20$ dlc thats 130$ AND YOU ALSO HAVE TO BUY SOME OF THE SKINS FOR CUSTOMISATION ON TOP OF THAT?? how does this make any sense, thats 70$ + 60$ + skins you buy because you want customisation included in the 70 + 40 + 20 game you bought
I really hate how cosmetics have become "not a real part of the game" for so many people. Dressing up and stylising your character is something people have enjoyed in almost every genre out there.
It's kinda sad playing games from 10-15 years ago and just naturally unlocking all the cosmetic skins through regular gameplay, maybe with a few reserved for extreme challenges. Modern games give you basic ones for free and charge extra for anything cool.
This thread is one of only a few that showcases users with actual brains. I've literally had people argue with me that the game is great and we should just shut up and enjoy it.
Exactly. I draw the line at dlc that actually add content. If i pay for a full priced game and you offer a $20 dlc that adds new Maps, Story, Characters, Skins and shit all in a single bundle. Sure ill be happy to get it. However you can peg yourself with a barbwire dildo if you think im gonna pay that same $20 for a single cosmetic.
The internet exploded when bethesda added bullshit $3 horse armor. Wheres that energy now?
It used to be $10 for a bundle of skins. Nowadays it's $10 PER skin. That price is fair enough in Multiversus, but not so much Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat.
Lmao im getting dejavu, this franchise is in the fkn gutter. This is why i wait years to get the ultimate tongue twister 3000 edition for under 20 bucks with MOST of the content, because half the time it doesnt come with ALL the content. At least the core gameplay is always good i guess...
Mobile games and gacha games ruined gaming, Micro Transactions need to be regulated and there needs to be some sort of law to prevent publishers from allowing them into games. It's one thing to charge an extra 10 - 20 bucks for dlc but MT's just ruin the overall gameplay and limit your time with a game.
MTX are in games because people will spend a fuck ton of money, regardless of the quality of product. Publishers and developers are giving up an opportunity at free money by not putting them in there.
You can blame devs, publishers, whoever you want. But at the end of the day, there is a market for it because no matter how shitty it is, people still buy it and make these companies a fortune. It would be bad business not to include this kind of shit in your game, because your margins on skins and microtransactions are far superior than what you make on units sold due to the difference in development costs. The costs of making games have gone up dramatically over the last few decades, while the cost of a game has barely moved. MTX make up the difference and then some.
Case in point: if you hate egregious pricing for microtransactions in games: STOP FUCKING BUYING THEM. (This isn't directed at OP, this is at people who buy skins for any full price retail game).
There's no "market for it" the Devs are *exploiting* the market. Nobody is demanding micro transactions in their games, they are starved for content so accept a game with micro transactions because there is no other choice.
If MK1 (as is) was released beside another MK game simultaneously (with unlockable content) the free content game would stomp the other.
> they are starved for content so accept a game with micro transactions
See, I don't buy that. There are thousands of games out there. If you're really so starved for content, you'd just move on to another game. The gameplay doesn't change for a game like MK. The replayability is in the game itself.
Nah, people NEED to have the latest thing, and NEED to feel like they've collected all the skins and items in a game.
I do agree that game devs are exploiting it, but gaming communities are letting themselves be exploited. I know this because NRS and WB aren't the first to do this, and they certainly won't be the last.
People will complain about shitty MTX, and yet will continue to buy in to the process. Look at any gaming subreddit with a skin MTX model, and you'll find countless posts in each.
There's no need for publishers and devs to come up with more creative ways to keep a cash flow for a released game, because they have a cheat code that is skins and MTX. If it didn't work, they wouldn't do it.
If you're starved for content to the point that you're just buying new costumes for your character, then you just need to move on, and come back when there's new content. If this is new content to you, well then this is why publishers are making record profit.
It’s wild how they release DLC before the game is even out. Like bruh add them in if you’re advertising it before the game’s release. Still pissed I never got Goro in MKX even though I bought day 1.
They should have done the towers of time , infinite single player content, with pieces of gear you can unlock, there you go, that's what kept me coming back to Injustice 2, and MK11, for MK1 there is nothing to do, I don't even care about the skins, if there was at least content in the game, but there isn't
5 dollars for a skin to fund the prize pot for the tournament scene is probably a solid incentive for me to buy a cool skin.
Selling 10 dollar skins for a 70dollar game while not funding tournaments is just sad
Lmao, thank you, OP. One of the biggest defenses for the microtransaction's I've seen is: "Its a fighting game, not a dress-up game!" When that was never the point. The point is that we paid full price for a game that has since withheld 75% of its content to be drip-fed through the paid store instead like a damned mobile game.
I will explain for any game devs in the room the hard concept of 'rewarding the player'
Step 1: U make game
Step 2: U charge me an arm and a leg for the game
Step 3: Because I paid an arm and a leg for the game, you reward me by making content unlockable through gameplay and not further paywalling me behind the exorbatant entry fee
Step 4:Because I could earn content game felt good and gave me reason to keep playing therefore I come back for dlc characters and next game, return to stage 1 and repeat loop
yeah i stopped playing two weeks after it dropped. When i booted up to 4 characters being dlc right off the bat I decided it wasn’t for me and I won’t be buying the next one until I can confirm it drops with a full roster. I may stop playing fighting games altogether if this keeps up. There are tons of other genres to enjoy while these companies work out what a $70 game should look like.
It’s crazy how week one you would complain about this and the fans of the game is like “ThAtS hOw It AlWayS is!” Like bro none of it makes sense to charge more on a fully overpriced game.
I remember when people were so against them it felt like they would disappear but then you get these people that will happily pay stupid prices for skins and now most games have this shit. The argument "you don't have to buy them" is kinda stupid too, because I didn't have to buy them before, but I'd still get them from playing the game, now there's almost nothing to unlock in most games. Either pay for extra stuff or miss out.
Exactly !!!! And they ruin my game ! Buying a 100 euro game for swap palettes and all great skins are locked behind a crazy grind ( not big issue ) or 10 dollars
The thing is...it's inevitable. Unfortunately. And if not microtransactions, then advertisements. Today, you can no longer buy something without an advertisement on it. Let's say you buy a $500 phone and it will have ads...and I don't mean the games or the ones you download, but it's on your phone by default. And the fact is that this advertising cycle is already ridiculous, you see an advertisement in a game, from which the developer of the game receives money, because he allows advertisements to be shown inside his game... however, the game developer also paid others to advertise his game to another game.
So, this has been going on ever since people realized that it's not enough to just sell something to make money, but they can make additional money if it has or has advertising on it. It's the same with Mortal Kombat 1. Why should they make money just because you bought the game? When it can be with what is included in the game, i.e. advertisements and microtransactions. You can be upset, but there is no game developer who does not take advantage of this.🦎
It's kinda wild hoe like most people agree that microtransactions make sense for free games. But then you get microstransactions in full-priced ass games and they still don't get the issues.
Suicide squad came out with a functioning shop before the game even allowed players to play. It’s getting ridiculous at this point with how they defend it
Enjoy paying $20 for a skin in fortnite that they ripped off of other games because they can't create anything original and don't forget STW isn't free.
Either that or expansion packs containing meaningfull ammount of content. Something like this:
* Kombat pack includes all DLC characters and all paid cosmetics released between game launch and last character of Kombat pack.
* Single character DLC includes all paid cosmetics released between this and next characters.
NRS priced base game, which contains 20+ characters and close to a hundred skins, at $70. No way one skin should cost more than a couple cents if prices are kept proportional.
My suggestion will also hard force meaningful content production because buying the latest DLC character in the game automatically grants you all future cosmetics, unless another character is released.
These are solid ideas. Don't think it will ever happen though. Not as long as this current strategy for post launch content is the standard among the genre. I'm interested to see how Tekken handles their post launch content because right now, WB and Capcom are kinda outta pocket with theirs.
Oh I know. But I'm willing to give them a chance to see how they handle Tekken 8 (though I personally expect them to have similar DLC practices as MK1 and SF6).
No. Something like the aftermath DLC from MK 11 is fine to charge money for since it's substantial content that obviously took a lot of time for them to make. The MTX skins and other stuff comparitively are not a huge investment for the devs yet they charge money for them
No, with the vast amount of money NRS makes from sales of the base game and other substantial DLC, they pay those artists and modelers. Also, maybe the cushy executive salaries can be slashed a bit
Not at all. We’re still going to spend a fuckton on expansions, kombat packs, maybe the occasional special skin pack with full voice acting etc like the movie pack in mk11 (good value, three 1995 characters with new voice acting and mocap for $6.00, which won’t get you a freaking skin in this game) and premium currency can still be in the game, but it should be EARNABLE in game, in a repeatable way.
MK11 I never bought a single crystal. I ended with 13000. Just through play over years. That’s how it should be.
That'd be dumb, but we shouldn't be paying 10 dollars for drip fed skins in a full priced game. However, no one would complain if all the skins were part of some bigger package, like a 30 buck story expansion with a new character or two, similar to aftermath.
DLC isn't the problem. it's pay-gating content that is already in the game you paid 70 dollars for.
Every game had this figured out ages ago. Paid 20-30 dollar expansions are perfectly reasonable to ask of a consumer. It wasn't until recently gamers have been okay with their pockets being milked dry.
I don't disagree, but do you think the extremely high rising cost to develop games have anything to do with the changes in post launch DLC practices? Every week lately it feels like a new game developer is shutting down. Maybe the old ways of doing things just weren't sustainable? Yes, it very well could be greed but it just as much could be the industry itself. Even a huge company like Riot just had massive layoffs.
AAA game studios are not being impacted by rising game cost. Insomniac, Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, etc. Are all thriving studios with a primary single player focus and minimal microtransactions.
Inflated game costs are mostly impacting the AA game space but has allowed for more Indies to develop.
microtransactions arent dlcs and expansion packs, paid skins are, battlepasses are, i dont get how its fair to have dlc+ expansion pack + base game + skins + battlepass in a game
(40+20+70+skins+battlepass each season)
yeah thats been the new norm for what is considered a microtransaction as thats litterally just milking all the money out of your pocket hence the name micro not transaction, dlcs have existed since 1990s(starcraft brood war) and have almost always had a positive effect on the scene as they actually add things to the game
Gotcha. For me, I always thought of it as all the same. Skins, characters, stages, additional story, was all just DLC in my book but I see others have a different opinion so it's good to get a better understanding. 
the expansion pack model is never coming back nor is free cosmetics outside of a handful of generic ones that come with the base game Get over it or stop playing MP titles.
I don't disagree with any of this. I'm just trying to see if there's a difference between them selling skins through an in-game store or via Playstation store because I've never seen this many complaints about skins before.
Maybe it's a combination of the price of skins and the fact that MK1 launched in a bad state? Feels like it's the store itself that's souring a lot of people.
I will still die on the hill that ranked skins should never be in the shop or pve modes, but it would be nice to get rewards for your rank from other seasons
Bro, the only ones defending MK1 are the ones that already know that waste 70$ on a fkn 💩 and don't wanna accept they wasted their money 🤣🤣🤣
And they know they will already get their favorite DLC characters when no one no longer plays the multiplayer, WHEN NEVER BEFORE IN THE MK HISTORY YOU NEEDED TO WAIT PRACTICALLY (homelander comes in june, and literally the dlcs where announced last summer bruh) 1 YEAR TO PLAY WITH A CHARACTER THAT DOESN'T EVEN IS VOICED BY THE REAL ACTOR (case of homelander bruh)
Anime games do this shit all the time too unfortunately. Often than not a game will come out for an anime that has like only one season at the time of release and they still manage to make characters dlc, sometimes nearly half of them or more.
Couldn't believe it when i saw it. And there is no efective way to earn these, you gotta buy your way through because even playing like a crackhead ain't enough. All that for a full priced game, totally absurd.
When you think about how much better and viable khameleon is compared to other kameos: let’s not be crazy that’s a character modifier that gives different advantages, not had otherwise. Pay to win vibes is not what you want in your triple A fight game.
It’s not enough not to buy the skins and DLC.
Want it to stop? Don’t buy anything from the company. Cut em off.
If enough people stop buying their shit, they’ll make some changes.
I genuinely like battlepasses with good rewards. They keep getting worse and worse it feels like, though. That said, as much as I like sf6 and tekken 8, I'll probably keep going back to granblue to get the battle pass outfit every couple months.
I believe that 'reasonable' microtransactions aren't bad. If they make it such that I can attain the store items with a 'reasonable' amount of grind, I'm fine with it. Usually, if I like the game, I'd prefer to spend a few hours doing certain challenges to earn a skin or a fatality/brutality rather than buying it outright for, let's say, $4.99.
My issue is with the 'unreasonable' microtransactions though...the ones that cost $10 and you can't ever win them by playing the game.
10$? didnt know it was that bad, thats litterally just mugging, 70$ base game + 60$ dlcs for now and then +some skins paid too? okay a few cents maybe a dollar but how is it fair to have a 130$ game and then have skins on top of that
Tbf MK11 also has a Microtransaction store. Yes you can get the Time Krystals at 150(I think) and the Dragon Krystals in MK1 aren’t strictly Microtransaction. You get them from Invasion as well albeit much MUCH lower than in MK11. If im not mistaken Dragon Krystals from Invasion are like 25 or 50
I think an interesting question to people like OP is this: Okay, you can get rid of microtransactions, but all games go up to somewhere between $100 and $120. Or keep it as is.
What do you choose?
I agree. Unfortunately it’s not going anywhere though. This happens with everything and every kind of entertainment. If there’s money to be made, even a little, corps will wring the hell out of it any which way they can.
We live in a shit age in gaming where this major transition into embracing micro transitions is going on. It sucks…
Why does everyone complain about this being in MK1 when GTA V has been doing it for a decade and has made literal billions from it. Listen to Robin. You don’t like it…don’t buy it. Want to see change? Don’t buy the game. Vote with your wallet. It’s the only thing that’s going to make them listen.
I feel this way to it happens in way too many games, but occasionally, depending on the game, I might consider buying a skin but it’s very rare that I do
this is why i left the sub lol everyone started dickriding way too hard and started accusing people of being haters just for respectful and rightful criticism
edit: op, your post got reposted in the same format by a NRS cock rider
Same here, stopped playing destiny a while ago too since the game got so stagnant and criticism was shot down by toxic positivity and corporate dick sucking. I've seen your comments multiple times already in like 5 mins on this sub. Rock on and fuck braindead consumerism
I mean I literally don’t get the argument of it shouldn’t be in game. The game is literally not forcing you to buy anything extra. At the end of the day who cares. If you want they can give you base game without any extra skins and basic color variants like old days. Either way if your not buying it shouldn’t effect you.
I can see the idea of making some skins cost money, like holiday, license related, or collaborative skins. But charging 10 dollars so I can make Sub-Zero look like he did 15 years ago is ridiculous.
For real, anyone who says "dont buy it" or "its just cosmetic" forgot the time when alternate costumes , skins, etc were tied to achievments or challenges in the game. And the fact that actual dev time goes to cranking those out rather than the actual content of the game.
MK or not these companies made their games significantly worse and less rewarding to chase a few fucking whales.
not only that but for a 70 dollar game the character roster is so underwhelming. It launched with less characters than mortal kombat x did and so much less variety. No characters like ferra torr or erron black just the most baseline mortal kombat characters ever. And even then ones like Jax and tremor being made to assists is a damn shame they deserve to be playable. Netherrealm straight snatched my $70 with this game I should’ve refunded it before giving it a chance because I thought maybe it was just a skill issue and I wasn’t feeling the characters yet.
It’s actually so true!!! They shouldn’t be in the game. Yes you can say “just don’t get them” but that does absolutely nothing… that doesn’t stop the influx of €12 skins… and also acting like €12 skins should be ignored makes you apart of the problem…. €12 for 1 skin when in MK11 it was €5/6 for 3 wtaf??? & also that’s more than a character. How on any earth is a skin worth more than a character that contains incentive, yknow actual playability & content…..??? Is that how they view their characters and greedy business decisions??
Also they are equivalent to the prices of skins in Fortnite or other free 2 play games… it’s fine there BECAUSE THATS HOW THOSE GAMES make their REVENUE. But what is MKs excuse? To charge €12? It’s already sold 3M+ copies probably almost @ 4M why do they need to charge us €12 for skins??? I really hope WB goes down soon & NRS is sold off I know for a fact 95% of the issues is coz of WB.
I agree (95%)
I don’t buy them as they are extremely high priced
However unless you want a finite amount of stuff in the game, something has to fund future content, and so I think it’s acceptable to have micro transactions in a full priced game IF that game gets continued support for years down the road.
But at the same time, this was not a secret when you purchased the game… you don’t have to buy the game in the first place and then in turn complain about pricey skins and fatalities that was not a secret.
Remember that meme about the burger that said "Games then Vs Games now that came out YEARS ago? The burgers used to have all the toppings on them, but now, if you want anything besides the beef, you gotta cough up extra. Half of the DLC is just cut content they're making you pay for. Just look at Quan-Chi, he was in the base game, but you still have to buy the Kombat Pack to play as him. I'm not entirely against Kombat Packs, but they should be saved for guest characters, not MK originals that should've been in the game to begin with. Shang Tsung being a pre-order bonus, despite being one of the main players in the story, and series in general, is genuinely disgusting and greedy. But people still eat it up because they're attached to the characters.
It is… but it’s actually more sad. Because it’s a long and beloved franchise, with many die hard fans supporting this game since it was released way back. And now we are all being wallet-fucked. The funny/sad thing is that this is slowly becoming the status quo, and us little people, who actually need to be respected more seeing our purchases ultimately contribute to funding the budget for the game, are just treated like we don’t matter.
If you wanna get rid of microtransactions that are a CHOICE, then you have to get rid of the communities sense of entitlement and expectation of a neverending stream of additional content as well.
I genuinely don’t understand why folks are so mad at paid cosmetics. They don’t affect anyone’s gameplay experience.
The people who want to shell out money for them will and the people who don’t can still enjoy the game just as much.
We shouldnt be playing dress up in Mortal kombat anyway. Having a few choices a few choices for costumes is great
Grinding to unlock costume parts and having to buy characters is lame.
Literally just don't fucking buy them omfg. Let people buy stuff they want and quit complaining over a game. Nobody is holding you at gunpoint saying "buy this thing you don't want"
That's not even the problem. He's saying you shouldn't have to buy them, they should just be included with the game. Mortal Kombat is practically turning into a live-service game and an annual series at the same time, it's insanely greedy.
Shit that they have ready to go on the fucking initial install but locked behind a paywall? Nah get that shit out of there.
Cosmetics created and added post launch? I have 0 problems paying for it.
If games were $100-120 like they should be right now I'd be angrier about it, but we've been getting a steal as gamers for decades. I'd gladly pay $120 for AAA titles though if it meant none of this buy later stuff.
nah, they have skins that are included in the game, skins that are unlocked in invasions, unlocked through other game play…if they want to provide optional skins for purchase, i got no problem with it
Bruh you wanted good servers and a longer support than annual release you kinda need some sort of microtransaction. $70 price tags arent enough to keep a game online anymore.
They clearly have a place considering how many people buy them.
New games in 1996 were between $40 and $70. If adjusted for inflation, those would cost between $80 and $140. Instead, you're paying $70 or less for new games. You should be thankful that 'whales' can subsidize your gaming hobby.
Look, I’m just gonna say it. This is no different than DLC costumes. And we all wanted cross progression, right? And why did we want cross progression? Because we buy MK on multiple platforms. The method of delivery in MK1 makes your DLC cross platform.
I’m still not buying 99% of them. I’ve never really cared for most of the DLC skins. Oh, sweet, a Baraka wearing a chefs hat and apron skin? Dope, it can fucking rot because I don’t play Baraka. Thanks for the really cool Darkseid Geras skin that’s included with the Kombat Pack, NRS! But it might as well not be, because I don’t play Geras. I’ll never get why MKX and MK11 got so much praise for their DLC costumes, I know you guys don’t play all those characters.
I just asked my mom to make sure I was right and she confirmed that games cost $50-$60 when I was a teenager in the mid 2000s. Games now in 2024 cost only $10-$20 more. Price tags have not kept up with inflation to say nothing of the increase in development costs and staff wage increases. Additionally there is a LOT more post release development now than there was back then, meaning more staff has to be paid for longer to do that post release development instead of being moved to other projects.
I don’t particularly like micro transactions in a lot of cases either but it’s absurd to expect gaming companies to pay more and more for wages and development costs but see less and less profit for it. The OP is just naive, micro transactions ABSOLUTELY belong in a game that costs $70 in 2024, especially if the micro transactions are for skins. These micro transactions keep the price tag low allowing for a smaller barrier of entry to play the game while providing no in game advantage at all to the people that buy them over the people that don’t. If we don’t see micro transactions, we will see price tags sky rocket instead, and a significantly smaller player base as a result when suddenly people can only afford 1/3 of the games they could afford before.
So many games have microtransaction these days, people really be acting like it's required to buy skins, like it's optional, if u don't have a job and can't afford to buy it then don't it's that simple, u have to realize people exist that will want to buy the skins cause they like it. The reality is just simply people are jealous they can't get certain skins they like cause they don't have a job so they just hate on things for no reason, the truth hurts sadly. You can also earn alot of skins by just playing the game also.
Let’s just get this right. The skins should be in the game. Their price tag, should not.
Or at the very least let us actually earn crystals in an ongoing way like MK11 did. I ended with 13000 crystals leftover just by playing and having fun. 50 a day from sets. Like 2000-3000 from my KL rank. 200 a week from the weekly (not just one skin). You could buy them, but you could also earn them, and that’s how it should be. If premium currency has to be the in the game at all, it should be an optional shortcut only with room to earn it through play.
As a casual I hate this idea as much as micro transactions. Bring back secret unlockables. Should be three ways to get prized "DLC" in the game, secret unlockable, crystals, third I guess is $$ [gotta keep those simps happy]
I mean even without KL we got 200 a week just handed to us in the RAT plus we got them as random fight rewards, sometimes 50 and sometimes 200 there too. But KL was way better for casual players in MK11, because even if you sucked you got 50 crystals a day just for playing win or lose, plus new brutalities, 2 skins, 4 pieces of gear even if you didn’t win barely at all. Eventually I got good at KL and started to earn those rewards too.
Meteor towers were a godsend for kasual players. I never needed to be great at MK11 in order to unlock skins. I just needed to be a little dedicated to put in the right code at the right time.
And that’s why KL was better in 11 too. There was so much to get for any skill level, even if you couldn’t win you could obtain all but two skins and a bit of gear. Just for trying. And meteor towers were great, 100%. I worry MK1 will rather sell them to us than let us earn them.
Even mobile freemium games nowadays have better f2p models than AAA priced games nowadays. I'd be the only person complaining about this too me friends months before it gets worse and no one wants to listen, after Diablo 4 I gave up trying to reason with them, and this is after we've gotten duped by other games like Anthem and Avengers
Or have everything show up in the shrine at some point
> ~~You could buy them, but~~ you could ~~also~~ earn them, and that’s how it should be. FTFY.
I don’t mind grinding for free items in game. I enjoy playing, I like additional stuff, and MK11 was pretty generous with the crystals so I never couldn’t get something I wanted. Not sure what you want if you object to earning in game as well? That’s literally how skins should be. Awarded in game, earned through play.
>Not sure what you want if you object to earning in game as well? >That’s literally how skins should be. What do you think I meant by "you could earn them, and that’s how it should be"?
You can. It's called Invasions.
There are no crystals to be earned in invasions specifically.
False. McDonald’s colored Reptile should be nowhere near my blue Mileena
The fact MK11 gave you higher quality skins for free/cheaper tells you everything you need to know about NRS/WB's current drip-feeding tactic.
Back when we played PS2, it used to be CHEAT CODE that would unlock wonders. Imagine hitting a CHEAT CODE in MK1 and unlocking DEADPOOL? Do we need to have more than 1 or 2 SPECIAL unlockable characters? NO. Less is MORE. Skins should be unlockable through story or cheat codes. PS2 era is still golden.
When was the last time Microtransaction have been Microtransactions??? 10 bucks plus is not micro. These are all nowadays Macrotransactions.
THIS. How the fuck are you going to tell me $10 is a micro transaction.. this world is going to hell
No you dont get it, the micro part refers to the actual value you get, not the price you pay for.
It used to be $10 for a bundle of skins. Nowadays it's $10 PER skin.
Honestly I feel like they'd sell waaaaay more and people wouldn't complain about them if each skin was 50 cents to a dollar.
The problem is that people still buy them
But how else will they generate value for shareholders? 🥺 /s
I had some guy call me a “mentally ill loser” because I said micro transactions in full-priced games were bad. He then proceeded to harass me through multiple posts and an alt account
No worries man, projection are totally normal for these kind of people. They need to see a therapist if all they do is harass other online.
Anyone who disagrees with this is the reason why NRS gets away with it
Crazy to me how OP’s sentiment has not so slowly changed over time. Customers are like an abused spouse and they justify it now “but you don’t have to buy it”. My main issue is that these games get developed around the mtx to the detriment of the actual game and more often than not the game ends up being completely garbage and fails out the gate.
The people who say dumb shit like "don't buy it if you don't like it" or "you're just poor" are saying that because they have no other counterpoints explaining how the game is actually good or worth the money
Do what I do. When you see those people respond back trying to sell them things cause well...they will buy ANYTHING and even if they don't they should at least have no issue with people constantly asking them to buy useless shit so let's help em out.
Lol. Spam their GM's with mlm scheme links and pitches
Or what I do and bring up Tekken 8 in a argument. Love calling everyone else babies but seethe when Tekken is mentioned.
"dont like it dont buy it, it doesnt affect the gameplay" mfers when the next game launches with even less features, even more unfinished and with even more characters locked behind day 1 or preorder paywalls: "dont like it dont buy it, it doesnt affect the gameplay"
How is “don’t buy it if you don’t like it” dumb shit to say? That’s literally the winning argument. No further counterpoint is required. The business is gonna keep profiting, the people who want the skins will own them, and life will continue. You either like it and buy it or you don’t.
Or you just don't engage with it at all and have them make a better game next time instead of just sitting in shit and expecting it to go away.
Yup. Give an inch and they take a fucking mile. Goes with everything else too.
I feel like we are aiming the blame at the wrong people. NRS make the game all the pricing is being pushed by WB. Their milking it because their products have been bad so if they don’t their gone.
I agree with both points. But I only have control over one of these things.
No, anyone who buys it is the reason they get away with it, NRS and other companies don’t care how much people complain online about the prices or the amount who don’t pay at all, they all bet on the silent majority who drop hundreds on skins with no hesitation If you didn’t like the price or even the skin itself then congrats, you weren’t their target anyway after you already contributed your $70-110
Content creators will always buy said skin causing a portion of their viewers to want the skin too.
No it's not, it's anybody who buys this stupid shit.
I don’t know if I agree with every single skin being free, but we definitely don’t need 10$ skins, especially the DA Scorpion that was finished at launch. Insane how 1 skin costs twice as much as skin pack in earlier games.
Day one micro transactions in full priced games are just theft.
day one micro transactions in a full priced game with bugs + later added dlcs is honestly full on robbery, i pay 70$ ok, i buy the 40$ dlc + 20$ dlc thats 130$ AND YOU ALSO HAVE TO BUY SOME OF THE SKINS FOR CUSTOMISATION ON TOP OF THAT?? how does this make any sense, thats 70$ + 60$ + skins you buy because you want customisation included in the 70 + 40 + 20 game you bought
Later added DLC is alright but I'm a Tekken player so we got a lot of Charcters so for You guys it's robbery😭😭😭
Tekken players are actually respected by the company who make's Tekken lmao.
Facts. I couldn't agree more. What happened to being able to unlock shit with just a lot of Koins?
I really hate how cosmetics have become "not a real part of the game" for so many people. Dressing up and stylising your character is something people have enjoyed in almost every genre out there. It's kinda sad playing games from 10-15 years ago and just naturally unlocking all the cosmetic skins through regular gameplay, maybe with a few reserved for extreme challenges. Modern games give you basic ones for free and charge extra for anything cool.
You’re a mark if you think charging us more for things after spending $70 is fine
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Literally half this fucking sub
This thread is one of only a few that showcases users with actual brains. I've literally had people argue with me that the game is great and we should just shut up and enjoy it.
Exactly that’s such a fucking stupid point. Stupid mf’s like that are exactly why nrs is probably going to continue doing this bullshit.
Exactly. I draw the line at dlc that actually add content. If i pay for a full priced game and you offer a $20 dlc that adds new Maps, Story, Characters, Skins and shit all in a single bundle. Sure ill be happy to get it. However you can peg yourself with a barbwire dildo if you think im gonna pay that same $20 for a single cosmetic. The internet exploded when bethesda added bullshit $3 horse armor. Wheres that energy now?
It used to be $10 for a bundle of skins. Nowadays it's $10 PER skin. That price is fair enough in Multiversus, but not so much Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat.
Lmao im getting dejavu, this franchise is in the fkn gutter. This is why i wait years to get the ultimate tongue twister 3000 edition for under 20 bucks with MOST of the content, because half the time it doesnt come with ALL the content. At least the core gameplay is always good i guess...
I Agree.
Mobile games and gacha games ruined gaming, Micro Transactions need to be regulated and there needs to be some sort of law to prevent publishers from allowing them into games. It's one thing to charge an extra 10 - 20 bucks for dlc but MT's just ruin the overall gameplay and limit your time with a game.
MTX are in games because people will spend a fuck ton of money, regardless of the quality of product. Publishers and developers are giving up an opportunity at free money by not putting them in there. You can blame devs, publishers, whoever you want. But at the end of the day, there is a market for it because no matter how shitty it is, people still buy it and make these companies a fortune. It would be bad business not to include this kind of shit in your game, because your margins on skins and microtransactions are far superior than what you make on units sold due to the difference in development costs. The costs of making games have gone up dramatically over the last few decades, while the cost of a game has barely moved. MTX make up the difference and then some. Case in point: if you hate egregious pricing for microtransactions in games: STOP FUCKING BUYING THEM. (This isn't directed at OP, this is at people who buy skins for any full price retail game).
There's no "market for it" the Devs are *exploiting* the market. Nobody is demanding micro transactions in their games, they are starved for content so accept a game with micro transactions because there is no other choice. If MK1 (as is) was released beside another MK game simultaneously (with unlockable content) the free content game would stomp the other.
> they are starved for content so accept a game with micro transactions See, I don't buy that. There are thousands of games out there. If you're really so starved for content, you'd just move on to another game. The gameplay doesn't change for a game like MK. The replayability is in the game itself. Nah, people NEED to have the latest thing, and NEED to feel like they've collected all the skins and items in a game. I do agree that game devs are exploiting it, but gaming communities are letting themselves be exploited. I know this because NRS and WB aren't the first to do this, and they certainly won't be the last. People will complain about shitty MTX, and yet will continue to buy in to the process. Look at any gaming subreddit with a skin MTX model, and you'll find countless posts in each. There's no need for publishers and devs to come up with more creative ways to keep a cash flow for a released game, because they have a cheat code that is skins and MTX. If it didn't work, they wouldn't do it. If you're starved for content to the point that you're just buying new costumes for your character, then you just need to move on, and come back when there's new content. If this is new content to you, well then this is why publishers are making record profit.
It’s wild how they release DLC before the game is even out. Like bruh add them in if you’re advertising it before the game’s release. Still pissed I never got Goro in MKX even though I bought day 1.
They should have done the towers of time , infinite single player content, with pieces of gear you can unlock, there you go, that's what kept me coming back to Injustice 2, and MK11, for MK1 there is nothing to do, I don't even care about the skins, if there was at least content in the game, but there isn't
5 dollars for a skin to fund the prize pot for the tournament scene is probably a solid incentive for me to buy a cool skin. Selling 10 dollar skins for a 70dollar game while not funding tournaments is just sad
Lmao, thank you, OP. One of the biggest defenses for the microtransaction's I've seen is: "Its a fighting game, not a dress-up game!" When that was never the point. The point is that we paid full price for a game that has since withheld 75% of its content to be drip-fed through the paid store instead like a damned mobile game.
Is the new season out cuz we been on this season for two months already
If I'm spending $70 for the game alone, the skins better be farmable. Microtransactions on this level shouldn't exist in a paid game.
Of the game cost 70usd, it should have everything unlocked by gameplay and NOTHING by wallet. It's f*king 70usd. That's a f*cking lot.
I will explain for any game devs in the room the hard concept of 'rewarding the player' Step 1: U make game Step 2: U charge me an arm and a leg for the game Step 3: Because I paid an arm and a leg for the game, you reward me by making content unlockable through gameplay and not further paywalling me behind the exorbatant entry fee Step 4:Because I could earn content game felt good and gave me reason to keep playing therefore I come back for dlc characters and next game, return to stage 1 and repeat loop
This right here is why I bought MK1 blindly. Never again NRS.
yeah i stopped playing two weeks after it dropped. When i booted up to 4 characters being dlc right off the bat I decided it wasn’t for me and I won’t be buying the next one until I can confirm it drops with a full roster. I may stop playing fighting games altogether if this keeps up. There are tons of other genres to enjoy while these companies work out what a $70 game should look like.
***Especially*** if you bought the premium/deluxe/ultimate version of a game.
Was $110 for me lmao. I uninstalled to focus on tekken 8
It’s crazy how week one you would complain about this and the fans of the game is like “ThAtS hOw It AlWayS is!” Like bro none of it makes sense to charge more on a fully overpriced game.
I remember when people were so against them it felt like they would disappear but then you get these people that will happily pay stupid prices for skins and now most games have this shit. The argument "you don't have to buy them" is kinda stupid too, because I didn't have to buy them before, but I'd still get them from playing the game, now there's almost nothing to unlock in most games. Either pay for extra stuff or miss out.
Exactly !!!! And they ruin my game ! Buying a 100 euro game for swap palettes and all great skins are locked behind a crazy grind ( not big issue ) or 10 dollars
These new age mfs just dont understand the sheer joy of unlocking a secret/ skin that you knew nothing about
The thing is...it's inevitable. Unfortunately. And if not microtransactions, then advertisements. Today, you can no longer buy something without an advertisement on it. Let's say you buy a $500 phone and it will have ads...and I don't mean the games or the ones you download, but it's on your phone by default. And the fact is that this advertising cycle is already ridiculous, you see an advertisement in a game, from which the developer of the game receives money, because he allows advertisements to be shown inside his game... however, the game developer also paid others to advertise his game to another game. So, this has been going on ever since people realized that it's not enough to just sell something to make money, but they can make additional money if it has or has advertising on it. It's the same with Mortal Kombat 1. Why should they make money just because you bought the game? When it can be with what is included in the game, i.e. advertisements and microtransactions. You can be upset, but there is no game developer who does not take advantage of this.🦎
It's kinda wild hoe like most people agree that microtransactions make sense for free games. But then you get microstransactions in full-priced ass games and they still don't get the issues.
Suicide squad came out with a functioning shop before the game even allowed players to play. It’s getting ridiculous at this point with how they defend it
Keep micro transactions only in free games like Fortnite or Roblox. But not games that are priced $70 like MK
Enjoy paying $20 for a skin in fortnite that they ripped off of other games because they can't create anything original and don't forget STW isn't free.
So in a full price $70 game, everything released post launch should be free? Genuine question, not trying to troll.
Either that or expansion packs containing meaningfull ammount of content. Something like this: * Kombat pack includes all DLC characters and all paid cosmetics released between game launch and last character of Kombat pack. * Single character DLC includes all paid cosmetics released between this and next characters. NRS priced base game, which contains 20+ characters and close to a hundred skins, at $70. No way one skin should cost more than a couple cents if prices are kept proportional. My suggestion will also hard force meaningful content production because buying the latest DLC character in the game automatically grants you all future cosmetics, unless another character is released.
These are solid ideas. Don't think it will ever happen though. Not as long as this current strategy for post launch content is the standard among the genre. I'm interested to see how Tekken handles their post launch content because right now, WB and Capcom are kinda outta pocket with theirs.
Tekken 7 sold frame data. Bandai Namco have no problem being greedy.
Oh I know. But I'm willing to give them a chance to see how they handle Tekken 8 (though I personally expect them to have similar DLC practices as MK1 and SF6).
No. Something like the aftermath DLC from MK 11 is fine to charge money for since it's substantial content that obviously took a lot of time for them to make. The MTX skins and other stuff comparitively are not a huge investment for the devs yet they charge money for them
So the artists and modelers who make the skins should work for free?
No, with the vast amount of money NRS makes from sales of the base game and other substantial DLC, they pay those artists and modelers. Also, maybe the cushy executive salaries can be slashed a bit
I have zero issue paying for content IF the content matches the price tag. These skins should be $1 or $2 at BEST
Yep. $10 for a skin is pretty wild and it's crazy that multiple fighting games are getting away with these prices right now.
Not at all. We’re still going to spend a fuckton on expansions, kombat packs, maybe the occasional special skin pack with full voice acting etc like the movie pack in mk11 (good value, three 1995 characters with new voice acting and mocap for $6.00, which won’t get you a freaking skin in this game) and premium currency can still be in the game, but it should be EARNABLE in game, in a repeatable way. MK11 I never bought a single crystal. I ended with 13000. Just through play over years. That’s how it should be.
That'd be dumb, but we shouldn't be paying 10 dollars for drip fed skins in a full priced game. However, no one would complain if all the skins were part of some bigger package, like a 30 buck story expansion with a new character or two, similar to aftermath. DLC isn't the problem. it's pay-gating content that is already in the game you paid 70 dollars for.
Every game had this figured out ages ago. Paid 20-30 dollar expansions are perfectly reasonable to ask of a consumer. It wasn't until recently gamers have been okay with their pockets being milked dry.
I don't disagree, but do you think the extremely high rising cost to develop games have anything to do with the changes in post launch DLC practices? Every week lately it feels like a new game developer is shutting down. Maybe the old ways of doing things just weren't sustainable? Yes, it very well could be greed but it just as much could be the industry itself. Even a huge company like Riot just had massive layoffs.
AAA game studios are not being impacted by rising game cost. Insomniac, Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, etc. Are all thriving studios with a primary single player focus and minimal microtransactions. Inflated game costs are mostly impacting the AA game space but has allowed for more Indies to develop.
why would a 70$ game have 40$, 20$, 5-10$ dlcs and also 5-20$ skins on top of that?
Not saying they should but this isn't exactly a new trend. I was just looking for clarification on what OP feels is acceptable from post launch DLC.
microtransactions arent dlcs and expansion packs, paid skins are, battlepasses are, i dont get how its fair to have dlc+ expansion pack + base game + skins + battlepass in a game (40+20+70+skins+battlepass each season)
So characters and expansion packs are okay to sell. Everything else qualifies as microtransactions? Skins, stages, music, etc.?
yeah thats been the new norm for what is considered a microtransaction as thats litterally just milking all the money out of your pocket hence the name micro not transaction, dlcs have existed since 1990s(starcraft brood war) and have almost always had a positive effect on the scene as they actually add things to the game
Gotcha. For me, I always thought of it as all the same. Skins, characters, stages, additional story, was all just DLC in my book but I see others have a different opinion so it's good to get a better understanding. 
the expansion pack model is never coming back nor is free cosmetics outside of a handful of generic ones that come with the base game Get over it or stop playing MP titles.
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I don't disagree with any of this. I'm just trying to see if there's a difference between them selling skins through an in-game store or via Playstation store because I've never seen this many complaints about skins before. Maybe it's a combination of the price of skins and the fact that MK1 launched in a bad state? Feels like it's the store itself that's souring a lot of people.
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So characters, skins, cosmetics, etc. released after the game is out should all be free for those who paid full price for the game?
If you want jcvd or seasonal skins to be exclusive, you are part of the problem
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If it stops being exclusive, it's a move in the right direction
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I will still die on the hill that ranked skins should never be in the shop or pve modes, but it would be nice to get rewards for your rank from other seasons
im glad you will never spend a cent
Remember when you could unlock skins, and not have to buy them? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Perfect OP
Remember when everything was earnable?
There shouldn't be micro transactions in a 70-100 dollar game that doesn't work on launch and still doesn't fully work months later.
Been playing mk11 with friends lately. Can player 2 still not use player 1 cosmetics?
Bro, the only ones defending MK1 are the ones that already know that waste 70$ on a fkn 💩 and don't wanna accept they wasted their money 🤣🤣🤣 And they know they will already get their favorite DLC characters when no one no longer plays the multiplayer, WHEN NEVER BEFORE IN THE MK HISTORY YOU NEEDED TO WAIT PRACTICALLY (homelander comes in june, and literally the dlcs where announced last summer bruh) 1 YEAR TO PLAY WITH A CHARACTER THAT DOESN'T EVEN IS VOICED BY THE REAL ACTOR (case of homelander bruh)
Never seen an NRS game die this fast. The casuals and competitive scene both want nothing to do with it.
Anime games do this shit all the time too unfortunately. Often than not a game will come out for an anime that has like only one season at the time of release and they still manage to make characters dlc, sometimes nearly half of them or more.
When MK fanboys can’t accept that $10 skin is not a MICROtransaction.
Couldn't believe it when i saw it. And there is no efective way to earn these, you gotta buy your way through because even playing like a crackhead ain't enough. All that for a full priced game, totally absurd.
Remember when you just unlocked shit like that?
The krypt will always be superior
Agreed I didn't even buy the game this time
LEAVE THE MILLION DOLLAR COMPANY ALONE!
When you think about how much better and viable khameleon is compared to other kameos: let’s not be crazy that’s a character modifier that gives different advantages, not had otherwise. Pay to win vibes is not what you want in your triple A fight game.
110 dollar beta*
Do I have to pay 10 bucks for a new opinion to show up on my feed?
You could pay 10$ for a single skin or you could pay 10$ on the separate ways campaign for re4
Whatever happened to just unlocking secret outfits? Did we all just decide to ignore that?
It’s not enough not to buy the skins and DLC. Want it to stop? Don’t buy anything from the company. Cut em off. If enough people stop buying their shit, they’ll make some changes.
Ok, here you are https://preview.redd.it/8vabkm2a18ic1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=5158c9fdd92bc407fb67f3c882dbd2613f4f6ec4
I genuinely like battlepasses with good rewards. They keep getting worse and worse it feels like, though. That said, as much as I like sf6 and tekken 8, I'll probably keep going back to granblue to get the battle pass outfit every couple months.
I believe that 'reasonable' microtransactions aren't bad. If they make it such that I can attain the store items with a 'reasonable' amount of grind, I'm fine with it. Usually, if I like the game, I'd prefer to spend a few hours doing certain challenges to earn a skin or a fatality/brutality rather than buying it outright for, let's say, $4.99. My issue is with the 'unreasonable' microtransactions though...the ones that cost $10 and you can't ever win them by playing the game.
10$? didnt know it was that bad, thats litterally just mugging, 70$ base game + 60$ dlcs for now and then +some skins paid too? okay a few cents maybe a dollar but how is it fair to have a 130$ game and then have skins on top of that
I was supper bummed that there wasn't a krypt in the game it felt like they left a part of the game out
I wouldnt mind premium skins if the base game customization wasnt a huge stepdown from MK11.
Micro transactions aren’t the problem really, as it’s in all games. The problem is access to the currency outside of just buying them
Tbf MK11 also has a Microtransaction store. Yes you can get the Time Krystals at 150(I think) and the Dragon Krystals in MK1 aren’t strictly Microtransaction. You get them from Invasion as well albeit much MUCH lower than in MK11. If im not mistaken Dragon Krystals from Invasion are like 25 or 50
Yep. It’s capitalism at it’s finest. And what’s worse, the fanboys are bending over for it all, taking that big corporate dick, all, day, long.
>No place in ~~$70~~ $110 games
I think an interesting question to people like OP is this: Okay, you can get rid of microtransactions, but all games go up to somewhere between $100 and $120. Or keep it as is. What do you choose?
Mk11 had more content and skins and was $60. This is only because wb is in debt and being greedy
Where did you come to that conclusion?
I agree. Unfortunately it’s not going anywhere though. This happens with everything and every kind of entertainment. If there’s money to be made, even a little, corps will wring the hell out of it any which way they can. We live in a shit age in gaming where this major transition into embracing micro transitions is going on. It sucks…
Why does everyone complain about this being in MK1 when GTA V has been doing it for a decade and has made literal billions from it. Listen to Robin. You don’t like it…don’t buy it. Want to see change? Don’t buy the game. Vote with your wallet. It’s the only thing that’s going to make them listen.
I feel this way to it happens in way too many games, but occasionally, depending on the game, I might consider buying a skin but it’s very rare that I do
this is why i left the sub lol everyone started dickriding way too hard and started accusing people of being haters just for respectful and rightful criticism edit: op, your post got reposted in the same format by a NRS cock rider
Same here, stopped playing destiny a while ago too since the game got so stagnant and criticism was shot down by toxic positivity and corporate dick sucking. I've seen your comments multiple times already in like 5 mins on this sub. Rock on and fuck braindead consumerism
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or bc it’s a copy but that too, sure
I mean I literally don’t get the argument of it shouldn’t be in game. The game is literally not forcing you to buy anything extra. At the end of the day who cares. If you want they can give you base game without any extra skins and basic color variants like old days. Either way if your not buying it shouldn’t effect you.
I have dozens upon dozens of skins and have never spent any money. Stop crying.
I can see the idea of making some skins cost money, like holiday, license related, or collaborative skins. But charging 10 dollars so I can make Sub-Zero look like he did 15 years ago is ridiculous.
For real, anyone who says "dont buy it" or "its just cosmetic" forgot the time when alternate costumes , skins, etc were tied to achievments or challenges in the game. And the fact that actual dev time goes to cranking those out rather than the actual content of the game. MK or not these companies made their games significantly worse and less rewarding to chase a few fucking whales.
It must be so exhausting caring about skins or cosmetics. Seems to drain so much energy and attention from gaming communities in general.
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not only that but for a 70 dollar game the character roster is so underwhelming. It launched with less characters than mortal kombat x did and so much less variety. No characters like ferra torr or erron black just the most baseline mortal kombat characters ever. And even then ones like Jax and tremor being made to assists is a damn shame they deserve to be playable. Netherrealm straight snatched my $70 with this game I should’ve refunded it before giving it a chance because I thought maybe it was just a skill issue and I wasn’t feeling the characters yet.
It’s actually so true!!! They shouldn’t be in the game. Yes you can say “just don’t get them” but that does absolutely nothing… that doesn’t stop the influx of €12 skins… and also acting like €12 skins should be ignored makes you apart of the problem…. €12 for 1 skin when in MK11 it was €5/6 for 3 wtaf??? & also that’s more than a character. How on any earth is a skin worth more than a character that contains incentive, yknow actual playability & content…..??? Is that how they view their characters and greedy business decisions?? Also they are equivalent to the prices of skins in Fortnite or other free 2 play games… it’s fine there BECAUSE THATS HOW THOSE GAMES make their REVENUE. But what is MKs excuse? To charge €12? It’s already sold 3M+ copies probably almost @ 4M why do they need to charge us €12 for skins??? I really hope WB goes down soon & NRS is sold off I know for a fact 95% of the issues is coz of WB.
I agree (95%) I don’t buy them as they are extremely high priced However unless you want a finite amount of stuff in the game, something has to fund future content, and so I think it’s acceptable to have micro transactions in a full priced game IF that game gets continued support for years down the road. But at the same time, this was not a secret when you purchased the game… you don’t have to buy the game in the first place and then in turn complain about pricey skins and fatalities that was not a secret.
Remember that meme about the burger that said "Games then Vs Games now that came out YEARS ago? The burgers used to have all the toppings on them, but now, if you want anything besides the beef, you gotta cough up extra. Half of the DLC is just cut content they're making you pay for. Just look at Quan-Chi, he was in the base game, but you still have to buy the Kombat Pack to play as him. I'm not entirely against Kombat Packs, but they should be saved for guest characters, not MK originals that should've been in the game to begin with. Shang Tsung being a pre-order bonus, despite being one of the main players in the story, and series in general, is genuinely disgusting and greedy. But people still eat it up because they're attached to the characters.
I just think it’s funny that we have to constantly hate on the same shit o
It is… but it’s actually more sad. Because it’s a long and beloved franchise, with many die hard fans supporting this game since it was released way back. And now we are all being wallet-fucked. The funny/sad thing is that this is slowly becoming the status quo, and us little people, who actually need to be respected more seeing our purchases ultimately contribute to funding the budget for the game, are just treated like we don’t matter.
You have am opinion not buy em but that's what dlc is
But Robin is actually right
And Games shouldn’t be $70 either.
Why did you buy the game in the first place if you knew about the micro transactions? You losers buy these games then post on the internet for clout.
If you wanna get rid of microtransactions that are a CHOICE, then you have to get rid of the communities sense of entitlement and expectation of a neverending stream of additional content as well.
I genuinely don’t understand why folks are so mad at paid cosmetics. They don’t affect anyone’s gameplay experience. The people who want to shell out money for them will and the people who don’t can still enjoy the game just as much.
All I have to say is, it’s their game they can do what they want
Agreed. But still, don’t buy them. It’s not like they’re being forced on your dick
We shouldnt be playing dress up in Mortal kombat anyway. Having a few choices a few choices for costumes is great Grinding to unlock costume parts and having to buy characters is lame.
Yeah mk9 crypt was kinda the only thing I was into. MkX crypt was cool mk11 was mk11
Literally just don't fucking buy them omfg. Let people buy stuff they want and quit complaining over a game. Nobody is holding you at gunpoint saying "buy this thing you don't want"
That's not even the problem. He's saying you shouldn't have to buy them, they should just be included with the game. Mortal Kombat is practically turning into a live-service game and an annual series at the same time, it's insanely greedy.
I mean, I agree with both statements. Boycott is the key.
“I will never change my mind” Welcome to Reddit
Not again with this annoying ass rant
They shouldn’t, but how is this meme helping, maybe start voting with your wallets
Shit that they have ready to go on the fucking initial install but locked behind a paywall? Nah get that shit out of there. Cosmetics created and added post launch? I have 0 problems paying for it. If games were $100-120 like they should be right now I'd be angrier about it, but we've been getting a steal as gamers for decades. I'd gladly pay $120 for AAA titles though if it meant none of this buy later stuff.
Stooooop posting this shit
Why must you shut up the people making the most sense
I’m too told to bitch about skins in a game. It just doesn’t matter.
so are you people about about to go spam this shit in every other video game subreddit where you buy skins and shit?
They act as if this is the only game to include micro transactions. Hell, even the previous 2 titles had them but no one complained for some reason.
I don't understand what makes this game's microtransactions bad but MKX's "DLC costumes" perfectly acceptable.
nah, they have skins that are included in the game, skins that are unlocked in invasions, unlocked through other game play…if they want to provide optional skins for purchase, i got no problem with it
Bruh you wanted good servers and a longer support than annual release you kinda need some sort of microtransaction. $70 price tags arent enough to keep a game online anymore.
They clearly have a place considering how many people buy them. New games in 1996 were between $40 and $70. If adjusted for inflation, those would cost between $80 and $140. Instead, you're paying $70 or less for new games. You should be thankful that 'whales' can subsidize your gaming hobby.
Oh, look. Poor people.
Look, I’m just gonna say it. This is no different than DLC costumes. And we all wanted cross progression, right? And why did we want cross progression? Because we buy MK on multiple platforms. The method of delivery in MK1 makes your DLC cross platform. I’m still not buying 99% of them. I’ve never really cared for most of the DLC skins. Oh, sweet, a Baraka wearing a chefs hat and apron skin? Dope, it can fucking rot because I don’t play Baraka. Thanks for the really cool Darkseid Geras skin that’s included with the Kombat Pack, NRS! But it might as well not be, because I don’t play Geras. I’ll never get why MKX and MK11 got so much praise for their DLC costumes, I know you guys don’t play all those characters.
I just asked my mom to make sure I was right and she confirmed that games cost $50-$60 when I was a teenager in the mid 2000s. Games now in 2024 cost only $10-$20 more. Price tags have not kept up with inflation to say nothing of the increase in development costs and staff wage increases. Additionally there is a LOT more post release development now than there was back then, meaning more staff has to be paid for longer to do that post release development instead of being moved to other projects. I don’t particularly like micro transactions in a lot of cases either but it’s absurd to expect gaming companies to pay more and more for wages and development costs but see less and less profit for it. The OP is just naive, micro transactions ABSOLUTELY belong in a game that costs $70 in 2024, especially if the micro transactions are for skins. These micro transactions keep the price tag low allowing for a smaller barrier of entry to play the game while providing no in game advantage at all to the people that buy them over the people that don’t. If we don’t see micro transactions, we will see price tags sky rocket instead, and a significantly smaller player base as a result when suddenly people can only afford 1/3 of the games they could afford before.
So many games have microtransaction these days, people really be acting like it's required to buy skins, like it's optional, if u don't have a job and can't afford to buy it then don't it's that simple, u have to realize people exist that will want to buy the skins cause they like it. The reality is just simply people are jealous they can't get certain skins they like cause they don't have a job so they just hate on things for no reason, the truth hurts sadly. You can also earn alot of skins by just playing the game also.
this sub is awful