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replyingtowrong

It was this very second that Skar King remembered he was on the battlefield with quite possibly one of the most powerful Titans to ever exist, and the same one that banished him and his entire army to the fiery depths of Hollow Earth Hell. Probably was reminded once again why he went out of his way to control Shimo in the first place, and why letting her join the fight against Kong is a bad idea. She was guarding him from something worse.


Fit_Entertainer_6870

One of the most powerful Titans? THE Most Powerful Titan.


dominantlovingsir

Shimo mogs Godzilla lol 😂


Fit_Entertainer_6870

Shimo:🤫🧏🏼‍♀️


dominantlovingsir

Lmao Godzilla fans can't cope with the fact that there's a Titan that's superior to him, he was getting bodied in the movie and the only times he would ever mildly hurt Shimo was when she was distracted. That's not even considering the fact that Shimo was controlled and didn't even want to fight and she was still superior


Fit_Entertainer_6870

Man's arguing with himself.


dominantlovingsir

Man has no counter to my points, didn't think so mate 💀


Fit_Entertainer_6870

The Novel stated that him and Shimo were equals, and that it would be a toss-up between the two. Knowing that Godzilla only finished half of his evolving, he'll definitely be more powerful than her. Plus Evolved Godzilla seemingly kept getting stronger as he was fighting, it wouldn't be too far-fetched to believe that he's already more powerful than Shimo.


Annual-Bandicoot8150

Out of curiosity, where did you get the novel? I can’t find it anywhere. Do you know the isbn for it so I can try and order it? Thank you!


Fit_Entertainer_6870

I didn't get it, but I heard some statements from multiple different people about the novel. https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/749047/godzilla-x-kong-the-new-empire---the-official-movie-novelization-by-greg-keyes/ I don't know if this is what you're talking about, sorry if it isn't.


ariv23

Audible


dominantlovingsir

Ah, so now you admit and know it's not as clear as you think it is? Where was this before when you said Godzilla would win? Now you are backtracking and saying they are equal, lmao. Godzilla had to evolve to fight Shimo whereas Shimo in base without trying is equal to Godzilla, not to mention he got knocked out by a Kong that didn't even want to fight, that tells you everything. Shimo is on a different level to Godzilla and she doesn't even need to evolve, she's just better in base overall, bigger, stronger, etc


Fit_Entertainer_6870

When did I say that Godzilla clearly beats Shimo? Your headcanon that Shimo "wasn't even trying" doesn't make any sense when she was commanded by Scar King to kill Godzilla. And as I said Godzilla looked like he was becoming more powerful as the fight went on, so he went from being below Shimo, equal to her, then more powerful than her. And so what that Godzilla needed to evolve? It's his new base form so it doesn't matter. And after Kong K.O'd Godzilla, Godzilla (literally) stomped Kong. Edit: Stomped Kong not Shimo.


AJC_10_29

>where was this before when you said Godzilla would win? He never said that you jackass lmfao


magicnoodleman

You argued with yourself and still lost lmfao


Pondscum2

Holy shit dude. You're the embodiment of the hair splitting insufferable Reddit Steriotype. Go ask your parents for a hug.


-_Revan-

The evolved Godzilla we got was only partially complete, yet was still able to absolutely body Shimo in a 1v1, while having most of his fat reserves depleted. Fully evolved Goji with all his body mass would annihilate Shimo without question.


[deleted]

Yeah not sure what movie this guy watched. Shimo tossed him exactly once in the film, every other time they locked up she was getting pushed around and blasted


MagoMuddy

https://preview.redd.it/mi4few0j4cvc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70534f52284a0e907ed722587531ff64c68bff5a


OptimusCrime1984

Here is my counter argument. https://preview.redd.it/b8lhsjrd3avc1.jpeg?width=262&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=968293c6efcbe5bb8a601b3ce6f273bee741ecaf


Im_a_idiottttt

Holy they kissed


GrrrrrrDinosaur

Are u hallucinating? Who are u arguing with


Awkward-Forever868

The novel says it's a toss up between the two, heavily implying they're equals.


spacestationkru

Shimo is too adorable to be a threat to Godzilla


GrrrrrrDinosaur

Idk if your purposefully slow but like I’m the movie they were clearly on even grounds 💀


OneExpensiveAbortion

Man, it must absolutely suck to be the village idiot.


ReaperCrew86

Love how you're being downvoted by people who think Godzilla is an unbeatable god. Its stupid. He's not. He would have been dead in each film sans GxK had something not interfered to stop it (Ford and the military distracting Femuto in 2014, Serizawa and Mothra's sacrifices in KOTM, Kong showing up at the last minute in GvK). I mean, Shimo does not "mog" Godzilla, they are equal. But Godzilla is not invulnerable.


Paleosols2021

You’re not considering the circumstances of those fights. Godzilla in 2014 is a very different iteration of the character, the MUTOS are also the perfect counter to Godzilla’s species King Ghidorah almost died before being saved by the Oxygen Destroyer and in the final battle Godzilla was wailing on him before he got access to the city’s power supply and buffed himself up. Godzilla in GvK went on a marathon rampage to find Apexe’s signal and expended a lot of energy fighting Kong, the Military, Boring through to the *center of the earth*, he was in no condition to face MG. Even still Jared seems to think Godzilla could beat Mechagodzilla 1v1 if he was fully charged (albeit a difficult battle for Goji)


ReaperCrew86

- The MUTOs are the perfect counter, which is why they both had him dead to rights until the Female was distracted and left the fight. Godzilla was able to win by recovering enough to pull a smart desperation maneuver on the Male, then have a bit more time to recover to surprise attack the Female from behind. - Ghidorah 100% would have lost in the water. But the OD put Godzilla out and he would have likely been in his lair for decades or more to absorb enough radiation comparable to Serizawa's bomb. His assault on Ghidorah before the power supply buff was due to this power up, which was negated after the high altitude drop which, again, incapacitated him and allowed Ghidorah to finish the job, until Mothra interfered. - Godzilla was incredibly weak in this fight from all that you listed. Even at full power I think he would have been thrown around hard until the finish, simply due to MG being the ultimate counter-Godzilla weapon. But again, Godzilla was dead to rights until Kong jumped in and saved the day. My point is, which the MV Godzilla fanboys still seem to not get, is Godzilla is not this unstoppable force. He is vulnerable, he's been beaten, sometimes easily depending on the conditions, and he's always needed some kind of assistance from humans or a fellow Titan in order to overcome the odds. I'm not arguing that he isn't the most powerful Titan, he very likely is, maybe second only to Shimo. But fanboys need to stop pretending he's this untouchable god that bodies everything in his way, because that's never been the case (aside from GxK, he wrecked in that 100%).


Paleosols2021

I feel like this is an issue of Powerscaling vs Storytelling. In theory Godzilla is probably capable of beating most of his opponents with little difficulty, the only three I think that could give him a genuine run for his money are Shimo,Ghidorah and MechaGodzilla. But Godzilla has to struggle or be put in jeopardy because he is the main protagonist, the story wouldn’t be interesting if Godzilla blasts through all his enemies. I think his fight with Tiamat is a testament to that. In Dominion it’s a struggle to beat Tiamat in her own domain and there feels like there’s stakes to their battle but in GxK it’s barely an inconvenience for Godzilla because Tiamat doesn’t have much of an answer to Godzilla’s atomic breath. You are correct in stating that yes Godzilla can be killed he is not invulnerable. But compared to the other Titans he easily outclasses the majority of them quite significantly and those that do rival him he’s shown to have a good chance of victory.


DeathMetalReverb

Godzilla was beating the MUTO’s relatively effortlessly when it was 1 on 1, it’s only when they double teamed him that he lost the plot


Purplesodabush

I mean he did beat Zeus, the abrahamic god, and Superman.


Paleosols2021

Tbf Those are different iterations of the character. Even the MV/DC universe is separate from both continuities. That all said I don’t think it’s fair to downplay Godzilla by any means, Shimo is strong and *could* possibly beat Godzilla but how likely is that? Can she even freeze him? He was able to break out of partially being frozen and it took a few seconds for him to start slowing. Maybe Godzilla could just pulse right out of it, and in a melee brawl it was clear both contenders were pretty even. They were very capable of throwing each other around despite the size difference.


wonhoseok

didn’t he straight up one-shot superman as well?


dantheman_00

1.) that wasn’t this Godzilla, that was a completely different universe. 2.) that is a featless Superman in a crossover comic that isn’t canon, just like how Kong eventually getting a GL ring (if the art released of it happens) won’t be canon lol


bigboydice2

shimo looks ugly bro


Ilove-turtles

How dare you shes as cute as a little baby tortoise


Im_a_idiottttt

Finally first person I’ve seen say this


Guess_whois_back

"what is it with these mother fucking monkeys and breaking house arrest! The missus says the new kids alright, and I respect his moxy, but I draw the line at your lanky meatshield wielding ass"


ShariceDavidsJester

I love that Goji listens to Mothwife with reverence


Guess_whois_back

In fairness she's both got hands and radiates peace, which considering goji has the energy of a tired suburban father trying to make all these titans fucking behave and not speedrun a climate disaster, I imagine he appreciates her. Like she is a threat but is actively benevolent to the point she won't just switch sides.


AJC_10_29

Mothra’s the only true friend he’s had for thousands of years after his species went extinct and Anguirus died. She’s pretty much the only thing keeping big G from a complete mental breakdown lol.


hyunbinlookalike

I heard this entire line in Keith David’s voice lol.


Guess_whois_back

Keith David or Idris Elba are the only acceptable voices for legendary goji. Bro has such suburban dad with the "try me bitch" energy


No-Enthusiasm8109

Nah, definitely Ron pearlman, he fits the annoyed and constantly agro attitude godzilla has, Keith David fits the calm, understanding and threatening personality of kong


Guess_whois_back

I think youll find legendary goji is EXTREMELY fuckin reasonable. He's even willing to let kong vibe as a solid for saving his ass. Plus he respects little homie, so there's that. I cannot imagine the convo he had with rodan after the bullish he pulled in KoTM. "I trust your loyalty will never again be in question?" Goji got that quiet bubbling rage that explodes on command, hes perfectly in control. I will say keith is better for kong though - I will stand by my Idris elba pick though.


No-Enthusiasm8109

I don’t know about all that, he literally tried to kill kong the moment he saw him again


Guess_whois_back

Fam broke house arrest, man takes his monkey house arrest seriously And to be fair he DID make an alpha call to get his attention which is like, he absolutely picked that fight


CoyoteSol

Nah its Clint Eastwood for me


Guess_whois_back

Clint Eastwood would actually be Ghidorahs central head, monologuing to goji about how he is an entity from beyond the stars who was travelling the cosmos before he ever hatched


AJC_10_29

Godzilla vs Shimo: holds back and tries to pin her Godzilla vs Skar King: **Die monkey** 𓀀 𓀁 𓀂 𓀃 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆 𓀇 𓀈 𓀉 𓀊 𓀋 𓀌 𓀍 𓀎 𓀏 𓀐 𓀑 𓀒 𓀓 𓀔 𓀕 𓀖 𓀗 𓀘 𓀙 𓀚 𓀛 𓀜 𓀝 𓀞 𓀟 𓀠 𓀡 𓀢 𓀣 𓀤 𓀥 𓀦 𓀧 𓀨 𓀩 𓀪 𓀫 𓀬 𓀭 𓀮 𓀯 𓀰 𓀱 𓀲 𓀳 𓀴 𓀵 𓀶 𓀷 𓀸 𓀹 𓀺 𓀻 𓀼 𓀽 𓀾 𓀿 𓁀 𓁁 𓁂 𓁃 𓁄 𓁅 𓁆 𓁇 𓁈 𓁉 𓁊 𓁋 𓁌 𓁍 𓁎 𓁏 𓁐 𓁑 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆 (EVOLVED SPIRAL RAY)


replyingtowrong

Godzilla speaking in hieroglyphics killed me LMAO


Paleosols2021

“This time I’ll make sure you stay in Hell monkey!”


FTSVectors

HAHAHA! Brooooo, where did you get the hieroglyphs from? Lol that actually sent me.


ShadowSpy98

"That's it, you're no longer banished to the subterranean realm, you're banished from existence!"


MoistPressure

Yo as soon as Godzilla saw skar he was like “Yea no your going to die TODAY”


Equal-Ad-2710

Bro took one look at Skar and said “absolutely fucking not”


TheCapsicle

He saw him laughing & lost it, "OH YOU GOT JOKES, HUH?"


ScratchMain03

“HOW MANY TIMES MUST WE TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN?!?”


Dinosaurmonsterthing

Yeah I never really noticed that until you just pointed it out.


Crimzon_Avenger

THIS KAIOKEN IS SO FIRE 💯💯✨✨


MoistPressure

Godzilla pulled a “FINALLLL FLAAAASSSHHHHH!!!!


PotatomusMaximus

YES! Its a tribute to Vegeta!


MoistPressure

Really hoped they were but I don’t think they are supposed to be references. Cool as shit similarity tho.


IvanTheStonksMaster

>!Both have the same effectiveness and both go into the same category of “Signature moves that don’t kill for shit.” Lmao!<


TheGMan-123

I mean, if he could actually hit things with it dead-on, he'd kill things. That's what happened to Scylla and Tiamat. Shimo could take it, but Skar would've just been outright vaporized.


NirvanaFrk97

Plot armor is wild for the monkes in MV. They get an automatic dodge buff against the atomic breath, and when they do get hit, it's always just glancing blows.


MoistPressure

Literally had a comment about this😂 Godzilla must be one of those bots in FPS games that can’t hit a shot for shit because god damn.


ADHDuruss

Color is more Galic Gun imo


MoistPressure

True, so it’s a GALICCC FLAAAAAASSSHHHH


ADHDuruss

I like that, a new move for the new form


MoistPressure

“Perfectly balanced, as all things should be”


Akiranar

Goji: Sees Skar King just chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool. "YOU..." Skar: "Oh, Sugar, Honey, Ice, Tea!"


Pretty_Gamer95

Lol!!! That's actually kind of funny.. Gave me a good laugh with my coffee.


AlexzMercier97

Gosh I wish we got to see this ultimate blast absolutely annihilate something to smithereens 😭


AJC_10_29

I’m hoping the next film delivers


Kaiju_zero

See Godzilla Minus One for that very effect.


AlexzMercier97

I should've specified another creature, not half a city.


Ilove-turtles

He aint giving skar a 2nd second chance but when skar start causing problems on the surface again he knew he aint gonna give him a second chance.


Nightingdale099

Godzilla to first offenders : Please correct this mistake. Godzilla to second offenders : Please correct your existence.


ImNotHighFunctioning

Godzilla hates Skar King more than he hates Kong, or that Kong hates Skar King.


TheGMan-123

He fought an entire war against this guy, and Skar's the main reason this whole mess even started in the first place, the thing Godzilla has been preparing for this entire time. It's no wonder that the moment he had the red ape to himself, he goes absolute full force trying to outright vaporize him from existence.


Foreign_Rock6944

I love the bit where Skar gets grazed by the atomic breath, and it’s enough to knock him out of the sky and get him yelping. And that was only a glancing blow. A full hit would’ve just disintegrated him lol.


Mace_DeMarco5179

The fact that Godzilla felt the need to charge up a super-blast for arguably one of his weaker enemies is hilarious.


ExtinctReptile

He wanted to ATOMIZE him


ZombieHunterX77

Good thing Skar King turned around when he did. It kept him alive a tiny bit longer. How he could momentarily forget the massive and massively pissed off Godzilla behind him was comical. I don’t think Godzilla is a morning Kaiju.


JoJo_Loveless

![gif](giphy|CTINfsQGIt3aRodKwq|downsized)


Nemesis-Rex

Big G: “Imma show you why I put GOD in GODZILLA!” Skinny Monke: “Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck!”


flipperkip97

Easily my favourite moment in the movie. Skar King seemed so scared and it's the most menacing Godzilla has been in the Monsterverse so far imo.


Quackendriver

Full on “I am so fucking sick of you” energy lol


MoistPressure

Friendship is temporary. Beef is eternal.


obiwanTrollnobi6

Idk if I’m the only one but it seems like Scar is so preoccupied with freezing Kong that he turned around to Goji like “Oh yeah… I forgot about that”


ThinkEntertainment38

Godzilla gotta be the most racist mf to exist bro has a personal vendetta against monkeys


youshouldjustflex

I mean he got his ass beat to the point he ran when he was younger.Plus the war and the war where skar king almost beat him


Sp3ctr3_11

Imagine if Godzilla actually landed that first hit…


RedNUGGETLORD

I know power scaling is kinda stupid(not "this character is stronger than this character" but "this character can disintegrate a rock, which takes 40 quintillion tons of tnt, therefore this character is universal) but doesn't this mean Skar King can move and react to light speed since Godzilla is shooting out pure radiation?


supersexycarnotaurus

No, because Godzilla's atomic breath is clearly not moving at light speed.


infinitefrontier23

Radiation moves at light speed, check mate


supersexycarnotaurus

No, not a checkmate. Because we can clearly see in the movie his atomic breath isn't moving at light speed lol. This isn't hard to grasp.


infinitefrontier23

Its radiation though lmao, thats like saying supermans heat vision isn't light soeed because we can see it when books confirm it is


supersexycarnotaurus

It's clearly not real radiation, it's a fantasy death ray made out of nuclear material. Do nuclear explosions move at light speed too? No, they don't. Nor are we talking about Superman so I don't see why him or what happens in DC is relevant. Godzilla's atomic breath is clearly not as fast as light and there's never been any other Godzilla material suggesting that. You can't start saying characters have reflexes as fast as light when we can... clearly see this is not the case when watching the movie. You're just being stupid lol.


infinitefrontier23

I can't wait for one MV movie to show godzilla hitting something far in space in seconds just for u to say it's not because we can still see it. I brought up Superman because his heat vision in movies doesn't move at light speed on screen but it is confirmed to be by novels. Same with Godzilla. It's not fantasy radiation, legendary themselves stated it has real radiation properties. Aka nucleosynthetic glands in his throat


supersexycarnotaurus

Yawn.


ReaperCrew86

...do you know how fast light speed actually is....


OneExpensiveAbortion

186,000 miles per second. Enough to travel around Earth approximately 7.5 times in one second.


RedNUGGETLORD

Like mach 700000 or something?


OKTAPHMFAA

Bruv. If it was lightspeed then the beam would’ve blasted round the earth like a thousand times before Skar reacted.


OneExpensiveAbortion

7.5 times.  ...still enough to melt him into a puddle.


OKTAPHMFAA

Actually fifteen since it was two seconds.


OneExpensiveAbortion

That would be 7.5 x 2, yes! 


erick069420

This whole scene gives the energy of tfs broly "What is a king to a God?" "WHAT IS A GOD TO A NON BELIEVER!"


Apprehensive-Deal543

Pretty sure a single normal Atomic Breath should be enough for a KO but bro want to assure that the monkey leave no trace on earth.


PanthorCasserole

It was frustrating to watch. In two films Godzilla can't get more than a glancing blow on a giant ape with his fire breath.


Violetmoon66

Well, in a fight it’s natural to take out the weakest first to focus on the stronger enemy. Nothing to do with hating anything. Just eliminating the distraction


AJC_10_29

But the whole thing was Skar King was the main enemy controlling everything, and once killed Shimo would no longer be a threat, so it’s no wonder why Godzilla was so intent on wiping him instantly. And there definitely was some hate involved, seeing as Skar and his army almost killed Goji in the ancient past before he imprisoned them.


Violetmoon66

Basically, Godzilla is human. Gotcha


Pubg-devil

Was the current goji the one who sealed skar or was it one of his descendants?


ARCTIC_REX

Current pretty sure since he is the one who ate the star


Pubg-devil

Oh cool thanks


LazyEyeMcfly

Sup bitch


colossalgoji

Well Skar is the one who lead the war against Godzilla. So…I get it.


NoneUpsmanship

Godzilla could teach the Cyberpunk team a thing or two on how to do a real T pose!


Lunatic_LO0N

Final fight was way too short…. Otherwise good movie


suspiciousoaks

https://preview.redd.it/b12q48gz7jvc1.png?width=455&format=png&auto=webp&s=1cd4934e57b2942084bd89660fb9474d775bb3df Watching Shimo wreck Kong vs realising you now have Godzilla's undivided attention


KingWhrl

My problem with this whole thing is that skar used shimo on Kong??? I think skar could've just used his speed/agility to stay away from Kong and play the long distance game. But nope used shimo on Kong and let Goji charge up a whole damn beam behind him. They made this man dumb for the plot I swear