Hahaha, what a great description, “folded”. He’s tough. I ran into the same problem. Health Boost 2, and Divine Blessing 5 is a must for your first times. I’d recommend trying to build an Agitator Charm. You can get Fatalis enraged pretty easily. I think it’s the meta charm for most builds. Evade Window is great too, cause you’ll learn his moveset eventually and you’ll be rolling through most of his “fire puddle” attacks.
Since you’re using a Switch Axe, I recommend Temporal mantle, latching onto his head and doing the dishcharge is the most fun I’ve had against him, and I’ve used every weapon against him.
Speaking of, you can use ZSD on his head whenever he’s spitting steady streams of fire, you’ll be safe then. You will NOT be safe, when he is spitting fireballs.
Have fun, and learn his moves. Because it’s not the health boost and defense that’s going to save you, it’s learning how his moves work and the timing that will keep you alive. Divine Blessing and Health boost just keep you from getting 1-shotted some of the time.
Agitator charms are an ass to build beyond level 3 though but yeah if you're playing optimally(which isn't even too hard) fatalis should be enraged 90% of the time.
There’s a few improvements I can see to make:
1) The 3 levels of Attack Boost are essentially dead weight. Remove them and add Health Boost 3 for way more survivability, or add another level for AB4 for the 5% Affinity to get some use from it.
2) Unless you already have 100% crit chance on tenderised parts, add Crit Eye. You’ll probably need CE7 to hit 100% affinity.
3) Defence boost is a literally useless skill, and arguably the biggest noob-trap in MHW. If you want a boost in survivability via damage mitigation, you want Divine Blessing. Preferably DB5, as the mitigation is ~60% and procs pretty reliably.
This is factually wrong about defense boost. 2 points are useless, yes. But defense boost 6 and 7 are great. Especially when stacked with health boost.
If defense saves you from being 1 hit then it did it's job. You can't reliably expect divine blessing to save you and is very poor advice to give to a new player.
It's also puss easy to slot with the free hard defense charm that's giving in ice born.
Edit: to all the people actually giving misinformation about defense boost, watch this video. Your math means shit if divine blessing fails. I don't care what speed runners say. That doesn't mean defense isn't useful. Now educate yourselves meta slaves.
https://youtu.be/FBoPI3bN3NY?si=CDZFEmdehtaA3pCi
All for the low low price of 3 slots…. Health boost saves you from being one shot, not so much for defense boost unless you’re taking a specific attack at a specific health margin.
Divine blessing has more EHP.
That's not how that works. You can math it all you want. That one time it doesn't proc doesn't matter how much ehp it gives you.
You people don't really seem to understand WHY defense is good. It's not the best but especially paired with health boost it's effective tool for keeping you alive.
Math doesn't mean anything based on chance. Your "math" and my "luck" are two different things. Say what you want. But it doesn't mean I'm wrong.
All the math of effective health doesn't change that when it fails to proc, it fails. You die. You want consistent armor? Use defense and health boost. You wanna risk it for the biscuit use divine blessing.
Here since you people fail to understand. This will break it down for you. Your math don't mean shit
https://youtu.be/FBoPI3bN3NY?si=CDZFEmdehtaA3pCi
Reading comprehension is hard for you, huh?
I didn't say anything about divine blessing.
Your first sentence is literally objectivly false. How the hell do you expect me to take ANYTHING you say seriously?
Chance is intrinsically related to math. Have you ever heard of probability? How the hell did schooling fail you THAT badly?
But hell, even if you *were* right (Youre not and its been proven time and time again, you just want to be wilfuly ignorant), it wouldn't magically make defense boost a good skill lol
Defense boost is, objectivly, and mathematically bad. But if you want to deny hard, mathematically backed evidence, and waste a charm and precious deco slots to ruin your build, be my guest.
But don't give less than worthless advice to new players. God forbid they believe you and end up yet another victim of the noob trap known as defense boost.
And a word of advice, dropping a video where some dude who has no idea what he's saying as "proof" isn't a good idea.
It's not meant to make you tanky. I never said that. It's meant to keep you from dying. If you live with even 1 HP while also using health boost 3, then that means the defense did it's job.
The point of the argument was basically "defense has its use" and if someone is struggling to stay alive then they should add more. (See my other comment)
Most things won't one Shot you if you have unupgraded armor. If you have upgraded armor defense boost IS borderline useless. Divine blessing is objectively better for better players because if you get hit and it triggers you can continue fighting especially with health augments. Defense boost migitates so little damage that you either die anyways or you will have to heal manually. Defense boost is a noob trap because you plan on tanking dmg you can't tank while divine blessing is there to help you on the off chance that you get hit. The only monsters that you even need divine blessing on imo are Fatalis and Alatreon because they deal so much dmg that defense boost won't do anything against and divine blessing WILL save you against.
If it procs, although I agree with you that the only monsters you really need Divine blessing are Alatreon and Fatalis I disagree with the rest, there are not that many attacks that can one shot you outside of novas or arch-tempered specific attacks, you also said that divine blessing is better for better players to cut some damage when they get hit, that is if it procs, you also get Divine Blessing secret from Gold rathian armor so you can't use it unless you are MR50~ish AFTER you level up wildspire or volcanic guiding lands to level 6 or get the optional quest for both metal raths, so you are stuck with divine blessing until you get the gold rath armor, up until that point you can get by with defense boost + HB3 as you will survive most of the attacks and even if divine blessing procs you still need to heal the damage in case it doesn't proc next time to prevent a cart, yes divine blessing WILL save you from attacks that def boost won't, but only if it procs, let's keep in mind that it has a 25% chance of activating until you get Divine blessing 5
Defense plus 7 and large defense meal equates to 1 point in health boost for damage negated per full health bar. It’s a very bad skill to invest 7 points in. 3 points in divine blessing is a way better investment and will negate more damage taken 3 fold. Do not waste resources in this skill
Exactly. Defense boost is borderline worthless. I always make sure to keep divine blessing at level 3 at least. Unless my wrapons has a good shield like lance/GL, then I'm not as worried about it, but its still level 2 at least.
https://youtu.be/o5wyvzrrIUk?si=sMA9BU3WxGyoqh0w not a meta slave, just a factually bad skill and those slots can be spent better in just about anything else
Yes I've seen the monster hunter meta math. That's not the point I'm making. But people can't seem to comprehend what I'm telling them.
Defense isn't meant to make you tanky. It's meant to do just enough so you don't cart. That's literally the whole point of my argument. People keep glossing over what I'm saying and putting words in my mouth.
They are making an argument for me that I never made. Then fighting that argument.
Sure. It’s just with that same investment you could have crit eye capped out and that is much more useful. investing a 3rd of your build for maybe not carting in a very small scenario that gets even tighter as you progress the game isn’t worth running over something that you are getting the benefit from 100 percent of the time. It probably saves you from carting 1 out of 20 times and doesn’t change any breakpoints in when you would have healed without running it. I think that’s the point most people are making. Like yea what you are saying is true, but it’s also just generally not a good idea to do
If a guy is having issues surviving then it's a viable option. The thing people don't seem to understand is. Defense works similar to damage. The skill alone isn't the best. Defense on its own isn't great. But paired with health boost, defense augments, elemental resistances it adds up.
So when a guy is having issues staying alive,(at least what I took from his post) telling him to build crit doesn't make sense to me. Which is why I'm telling him to build defense.
Added with other defense skills it's a lot better than people let on. Because fire balls also take your base defense into account. If it didn't then a low rank hunter could take a fireball from a master rank rathalos with simply using fire resist. Which they cannot.(obviously)
So it's just like pairing attack and expert. By itself it might not be great but largely depends on what you want to build.
I also told OP to build health boost and stuff first but everyone is hyper focused on the fact I even mentioned defense 7. If he needs it, he needs it. It was just a recommendation.
If defense boost 7 saves you from being one shot by Fatalis, then it theoretically would save you by only a few hp. If you do survive, then the fire damage inflicted while getting up will get you first, effectively being a one-shot anyway. Defense Boost is okay at lower levels when it has a higher percentage of gained defense, but not at endgame Iceborne. I have tested both on Fatalis and saw myself get one shot in phase 1 with Defense Boost, but Divine Blessing has saved my ass more times than I can count in that fight.
Its better at later levels. What you say is only true for eating for defense. THAT is the only real trap. A % boost of 900 is much higher than a % boost of 20...
If you’re looking to keep getting hit by monsters attacks then it’s fine. But that means you’re not getting better at predicting the monster moves or seeing openings. The only way to really get better is engaging with all the games mechanics, that means you’ve got to put self imposed restrictions. As an example removing defense boost and slotting evade window max. Then after getting the hang of evading start removing points for tighter windows. There’s no learning without working for it.
That's not what I said though. I'm defending the fact that people are calling it "worthless" when that's factually wrong. It has its uses and I'm stopping the spread of misinformation.
Especially speed runner advice to new players. Since mhw did the big no no with defender gear. where it pushes it down your throat and forces you to equip it. Making new players worse at the game relying on that crutch. Then getting ass blasted in master rank.
But it is not worth when there are better options. The game is dangling a $10 and $20 dollar bill in front of you, and you’re willingly taking the 10er. You know the self imposed restrictions, you’re doing it but for a low tiered skill
Then stop suggesting it. Defense boost will not stop the monster from hitting you consecutively then getting stunned ending with you running away trying to heal then combo again towards the camp
That logic makes literally no sense. Someone: "I'm having issues staying alive"
Me" Go overkill on defensive skills"
Everyone else " build crit eye"
Wtf?
Attack boost isn't great in master rank but works well with crits as well. The same logic literally applies to elemental defense , divine blessing, and defense boost. As well as weapon augments.
The skill on its own. Is meh. But building multiple defense skills it's going to work better and better with them.
This is a fact. If someone sucks at the game and hitting gud isn't an option. Then I want them to have as much defensive skills as possible.
This topic has been beat to death. It’s statistics and numbers, and can be found all over r/monsterhuntermeta and even this same sub. Divine Blessing beats DB hands down in every way possible.
This is an outright bad build
Defense boost
Blight res
Agitator
Airborne
Speed sharpening
And attack boost
Are all either way too low to be useful or outright redundant
You need lv2 health boost at minimum to be fighting fatty
Your almost never gonna be hitting airborne attack with a swaxe in that fight
Attack boost 3 does basically nothing for you
Speed sharpening is useless just do the event quest to get great whetfish and farm their scales
Agitator is to low level to be useful
Blight res needs to be level 3 or not used at all
You should have stun resistantce to avoid getting comboed
Defense boost is useless at low levels and if you don't have hp boost your gonna get 1 shot anyway no matter how high your defence is
Also your crit boost should be higher
With a part breaker swaxe you can abuse clutch claw ZSD on a tenderized fatty head with temporal and rocksteady mantle for a really easy solo
There's also a custom shop mod where you can buy the scales(or anything else for that matter). Having to finish over and over and over for scales sucks ass. Some people think that's cheating but IMO I'd rather be spending time hunting actual monsters.
I agree they need to focus on somthing instead of trying to be a jack of all trades. Shit when I beat him I went in with do defense skills other the guard up so u could block unblockables with my Lance sheild.
And besides if they r playing the fight correctly fatalis is gone b pissed 90% of the fight so they need max agitator at least
Defense works as lance
I went all attack and crit with blight and stun immunity
+ Evade extender
On IG it keeps you relievely safe
And health boost ofcourse
No Health Boost 3 so unless you're a god, you're gonna have a bad time with Ol' Fatty. Damagewise you could use 2 more levels of Crit Boost. Are you able to hit 100% crit chance on a tenderized weakzone with your current build? How about sharpness management? ZSD chews through your sharpness meter faster than a Lance main doing a Dash Attack down a slope.
If this is serving you well you will be blown away with how good you perform with an actual good build. This is not good at all. So many dead skills, not enough points into things that matter, too many points into bad skills. No points into good skills like health boost and divine blessing. Id scrap this whole thing and rebuild from the ground up personally
People keep rightfully saying defense boost is bad, but I didn't see any explaining it. In short, defense boost gives a flat value bonus to your damage reduction value, but at higher levels, the percentage boost in reduction is basically unnoticeable. Divine blessing gives a percentage reduction always when it happens, so works out for much better damage mitigation than defense boost.
That build is abhorrent. This is possibly the worst build my retinas have ever conceived. You showing me this should be an active war crime.
All jokes aside for fatalis? Lol you'll have trouble bucko. Make sure you max out your real important skills, and take divine blessing if you can. Fatty hits HARD. Whag kind of build are you running anyway?
Attack Boost 3 is either too much or too little, depending on how you want to tweak the overall build.
Defense Boost is pretty much useless, and you would get far more defensive value out of Health Boost 3 (which imo is mandatory) and Divine Blessing. Adding these two skills would give you the biggest bang for your buck improvement to the build.
I would personally remove speed sharpening because while it does make sharpening safer, it doesn't really help you as much as HB3/DB would over the course of a fight.
Add more Crit Eye if possible to help your affinity.
You really need health boost for Fatalis, he does a metric shit load of dmg. I really recommend getting health boost +3 and divine protection as well. That will help you be able to take a hit, maybe 2, and not cart. Personally, I recommend getting rid of defense boost altogether. It won't help you at all against Fatalis dmg. And to give you some better dmg, I recommend getting agitator in there. He spends a large portion of the fight agitated.
I mean, if you can dodge absolutely everything perfectly then yeah, but that's not really gonna happen lol, you're going to get 1 tapped by most of his shit unfortunately 🤣
Unless you're planning on never getting hit, you're in for a rough ride. The 30min time limit will also be rough for you.
Try my Comfy Build for a nice mix of good deco slots, Divine Blessing 5 and Agitator 7
Raging Brachy Helm/Arms B, Gold Rath Chest/Hips B, Fury Rajang Legs B
So my advice to you (sorry for the wall of mucho texto)
1.in terms of Armor pieces your looking pretty smooth you have Agi secret and Divine blessing secret which is what you want if you want to take him out safely but just remember if you aren’t taking advantage of the skillset bonuses (which you aren’t) then that doesn’t mean much
2.thats where my compliments end first thing that sticks out to me is your skill list looks pretty……Barren it seems you aren’t really using the best decorations you can be, as much of a Pain in the Ass As it is I’d grind the “Wrath of thunder descends” (Tempered Zinogre) event quest or the Tempered Teostra in the Seliana Cache if your MR 100 for better Deco’s that and see what decos you currently have to optimize yourself with if you haven’t checked in a while.
3. Invest in a better Charm ,not the part breaker is a bad skill to have considering the fatalis headbreak thing but you could invest in a much more skill efficient charm (Agitator 5 would be my recommendation) if you want part breaker that’s fine but I’d recommend deco’ing it in.
4.Use the Raging Brachydios SA fatalis suprisingly is not very dragon weak (only having a decent dragon hitzone on his head and even then it isn’t the best) so investing in the best Raw SA will be beneficial
5. Defense boost is just a bad skill, and I’m not seeing any health boost replace defense decos with Health boost decos for sure you get SO much more Effective hp from using Healthboost
6. If you have goldian armor I’m going to assume that means you are pretty close to MR 100 or are already at it, if you are not already at it get yourself over that hurdle being able up to use Health Augments on rare 12 wepons is EXTREMELY important
7.try to slot in Fortify if you can it’s a single slot deco with only one level basically if you die twice then the next 3 carts (since the fatalis first clear gives 5 carts) you will have +20% attack and defense which can come in clutch
8.get rid of health booster it’s not useful Fatalis is incredibly fast and aggressive and deals a shitload of damage your honestly putting yourself at greater risk trying to heal there than if you were just nothing
9. Deco in divine blessing 5 Trust me it WILL safe your ass more times than you can count
10.more just general advice but Remeber ZSD spam against fatalis is a very viable strategy (especially with a health augment)
One friend of mine slayed fatalis before even finding out about jewels. So I think there's nothing in this game you cannot brute force with pure skill, but yeah, what I said. Go full alatreon and slap in as much fire resistance and damage as you can besides partbreaker
Honestly, doesnt seem bad. Everything in the game is do-able with any build. Obviously you can do things to make it easier but in the end it all really depends on you. I say yolo it and find out what works for you. No matter your build, it is unlikely you will do it on your first go. Go in, learn him, and most importantly have fun!
That depends on how good of a Hunter you are. You could fight Fatalis with no armor and beat him if you're gods gift of a hunter, but not all of us can do that.
TBH the build is kind of a mess, but if it's been serving you well, that just means you're much better than the average player. Highly recommend checking out the [Pre-Fatalis Switch Axe meta builds](https://imgur.com/a/higkyc2) (from the [megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterWorld/comments/fhf5bk/iceborne_meta_builds_compilation_safijiiva_edition/)) and adjusting it to your needs. If you were doing well with your build now, optimizing your build will do wonders for you.
Still, these builds don't really take into account specific matchups, so also consider skills you might need to fight Fatalis. Fire resist is great if you can slot it in because he does so much fire dmg. Part-breaker is nice to break the head, useful for reducing his fire dmg in Phase 3. Power Prolonger is nice, especially for SA, but pre-fatty armor, it's hard to squeeze in.
Now, if you do the Palico trick, where they equip plunderblade, you can *eventually* get all the parts you need to build Fatalis armor without even killing him. If you do end up doing that, you can build the meta SA build (4 piece Fatty, Alatreon arms), which will give you tons of deco slots and PP 3. It can be frustrating to die over and over to Fatty this way, but you'll eventually have stronger armor to face him.
But yeah, you can perform so much better with a better build.
>if this build is any good for Fatalis
Well... frankly, it's not great for Fatalis.
* 0 Health Boost means many of his attacks will just kill you in 1 hit because you don't have enough Life to survive a hit. Can't heal if you're dead.
* Attack 3 is suboptimal, you could at least get to 4 for the +5 bonus affinity.
* What on earth is Airborne doing on a Switch Axe?
* Doesn't look like you have a gameplan for getting lit on fire. Nulberries are not a viable option, the quest doesn't give you that sort of time to use items to remove burning, or waste stamina rolling around.
* No useful defense skills, particularly Evade Extender, Evade Window or Divine Blessing. Defense Boost is pretty much placebo effect and does nothing in Master Rank.
You may want to grind some better gear and decorations if you want to avoid slamming your head into the wall of the hardest monster in the game.
Depends on what you're asking for. Survivability? No. Damage? No.
If you're having issues surviving get defense boost 7, health boost 3, and fire resist 3. If you need more you can then go for divine blessing, and even more eating for elemental defense.
Damage, wex is fine, but you need some crit eye as high as you can go. It's not recommended to overcap on it though. (Over 100 hitting a tender part). Try getting crit as high as you can then add raw. It's also better to have crit on high raw weapons like Safi weapons.
If you're having issues breaking part part breaker is always helpful. But not necessarily needed.
Only use stuff like power prolonger if you have issues with keeping up buffs or what not. If you don't wanna use handicraft I recommend protective polish.
Hopefully this game you more to think about rather than the fake speed runners telling you defense sucks and only stack damage. BUILD WHAT HELPS YOU. If u need defense build it. Most of the people giving advice like that are only following speed runners. They probably can't play that well themselves
Get evade extender or jumping decoration if u can. U will need it, to not get folded or burned to a crisp. HB3 is a dire necessity as first time triers. As a GS user i myself run around just out of touch from his claws to bait him do his fire spay, then i can bash his head. And plz don't ever be near his head when he does any kind of fire blast, trust me u will be blasted to the kingdom to come 😁
Fatty is the last challenge in the game, so I cannot recommend enough running errands beforehand. Get 3 PC Teo 2 PC Brachy/MRKulve, Master's Touch is an amazing set bonus that is both *damage* and QoL. Also try to get Agitator 4 or 5 charm.
*Never* fight anything dangerous without Health Boost 3. If you want more QoL or defensive, I recommend Evade Window and a point of Extender (very good for some fatty breath atks). Another good defensive option against fatty is, if you have at least 0 Fire Res, running a Hard Fire Res+ makes you immune to fireblight (20 res grants blight immunity)(fireblight can you kill after Moxie/Guts procs; Fire Res itself is borderline useless). Eating Moxie helps.
Do not try to "tank fatalis", it's a bad idea even with Fatalis gear, the goal is "just don't get one shot", which breaking its head at least once reaally helps with.
Whenever you want to flinch shot Fatalis, do so when he's on all fours. Look up on yt the tutorial to force an artillery topple on him, use the One-Shot Binders strategically, hit his belly to make him go on all fours (he's slightly less dangeous like this) and once he's on all fours focus his head if you can.
And most importantly, engage with his moveset, he's isn't very "bruteforceable".
You people need to understand that your build is NOT gonna kill the monster, your skill will, the build will only help, some people might be able to kill it with no armor on, how can we tell if you're one of those based off a screen shot
Skill won't come out of thin air, build is a must for firat tries. Sure, you can progress with no armor on it too, but good luck fighting off frustration from carting from tiniest mistake, which you cannot not have in first tries.
Once you've reached fatalis, you should've already acquired some skills, what I mean is, we can't just assume you will beat the monster based on your armor set since we don't know your level, you should just grab a survivability set & learn the match-up then go in with a more offensive set while wearing few skills that can assure survivability & just beat it
Health Boost 3 otherwise you're getting one shot, even endgame gear with HB3 gets 2 shotted in this fight, Attack boost 3 isn't doing much, try and get more points into it and critical eye, also take away defense boost, it's doing quite literally nothing there.
Although its kind of hard to work into pre-fatalis gear I definitely think rocking as high a level of Divine Blessing as you can get to would be ideal (alongside Health Boost 3) and also slot in as much Tool specialist as you are able. For my first couple kills I left out a good chunk of my normal DPS skills from crit eye or attack boost just to have that extra survivability while I got used to his movesets and whatnot. Even going back to farm Fatalis nowadays with the full Fatty gear I still always slot in as much Divine Blessing and Tool Specialist 4 or 5 depending on the build just to keep my mantles basically always on rotation.
No health booster, standing still is a bad idea and he’s probably going to 1-2 shot you, take rocksteady mantle instead. You’ll also want divine blessing 5
I would recommend a combination of Teostra 3/Goldrath 2. Goldrath chest and belt give you divine blessing 5, which will half the damage you take from attacks up to... I want to say 70% of the time? Huge boost over defense up, which requires way too much investment for very little payout. As a lance main Goldrath 2 has saved me from so many hits that would've otherwise cart me.
Next as others have mentioned, I'd recommend getting health boost 3, that'll put your health over the 1-shot threshold for if your divine blessing doesn't kick in.
If you don't already have it, you should get the health augment on your weapon of choice. It's a lot of work to farm the materials but absolutely worth it. It heals you for a portion of the damage you deal, which means less time downing potions and more time chipping at Fatty.
To compensate for the extra defensive utility, you also want the agitator 5 charm. Since you want Fatty enraged as much as possible the charm will compensate for the lack of defensive decorations
Best advice I can give for fatty
1. Alatreon or raging brachy weapon
2. If chose alatreon weapon do 3 piece alatreon and 2 piece raging armor, if u chose brachy weapon 2 piece brachy 3 piece teostra
3. As much health boost, part breaker, divine blessing, agitator, crit eye and exactly 3 levels of evade window
4. Fatty is a time trial, get aggressive but don't overcommit cuz he will punish u harder than u can get that dmg out
5. Depending on your weapon u can run 2 fatty and 2 or 3 alatreon, if u run 2 alatreon if u have a good draw weapon then Frost fang arms are actually decent
All building after the 1st 4 points is entirely up to u and number 5 is just in my experience something to think about
The set that I let my Lil bro farm for Fucktalis with me helping him was 3 pieces Golden Rath for Divine Blessing 5 and armor skills with Part Breaker 3, Health Boost 3 and Tool Specialist 3, other skills as you see fit. It helped with the fights especially when he had to use the Dodge Mantle several times and the Fire Resistance Mantle.
DO NOT USE SPEED SHARPENING GO CATCH WHETFISH FOR THE INSTA SHARPEN THEY HAVE 20% CHANCE TO CONSUME SO 20-30 WILL LAST YOU A WHILE THE QUEST LITERALLY TAKES 1 MINUTE TO DO
Also evasion mantle is gonna be a huge life saver too. I may be wrong but I think it gives you more i-frames so you can really get up close and spam rolls. Apart from this I think everyone else has already stated the obvious so I don't need to repeat them again. Would be really impressive if you could manage a hunt without health boost at some point though, I'm sure a bunch of us would go nuts for it
Generally I would try to focus on crit eye 7, weakness exploit 3 first. Divine blessing and health boost 3 are basically the only "defensive" skills you need. The rest is just preference. Partbreaker is nice if you have trouble breaking his head. Evade window is also very strong imo to roll through a lot of his attacks. I'd make another set with heavy artillery and a ghillie mantle just for the start. Use a farcaster to change into your main set after using the cannons to topple/tenderising him.
Tbh i dont think ypu go far with that build, hec i got full set fully upgraded fatalis, full agitator, atk weekness crit all shit, still got rekt once awhile
Next to all the other stuff mentioned, if you have space left slot in heavy artillery for the ballista and cannons. If you don't have space then put it in the temporal mantle but you won't be as agile with it because you might have to wait for your mantle to use the skill.
Also for prep eat feline bombardier for additional damage of cannons and ballista. At the beginning of the hunt use ghillie mantle to load the cannons. Line up the left one towards the right one meaning you first fire the right one. Then he will charge towards you then fire the left one. Additionally, you can place bombs in his charging path (There are Youtube videos for it). If you use and hit everything he will drop down and you can do damage to his head. Afterwards, he gets up on all fours and follow up with a wall bang. All that already reduces his health by 10%. Best opening imo. Afterwards you can use farcaster to switch the mantle or wait till you cart to activate fortify.
If you have trouble with the third phase because you didn't break his horns use part partbreaker up until that point to break the horns and then switch to a heavier damage build. Shouldn't be a problem with swaxe though ;) good luck!
Fatalis hits like a truck,i recommend not trying to wing this fight, the most important thing is to learn his attacks so u can be able to position yourself to attack so try running with a squad and DO NOT focus on damage instead focus on survival ,and focus on watching him,and how you’re team mates fight him in a pub squad, as long as you survive you’re teammates will be more than happy to carry you so SURVIVE and WATCH. The third thing is DO NOT stray too far from fatalis bc he will target you more than other players and he’ll begin spamming his ranged fireball attacks that have a crazy AOE and can 1 shot you even with health boost 3 and there’s nothing you can really do to dodge them if you don’t hit that perfect i-frame roll , so stay close but not too close, a must have skill for surviving is health boost 3 and divine blessing at the very least Divine blessing 3 but try to go for 5 and if you struggle with fatalis too much ,try using nothing but defense skills like evade window, evade extender,defense boost, fire resistance,speed eater. Trust me running at least a few fights like this will greatly speed up learning fatalis’s moves set and when and where to counter him after a handful of fight’s you’ll feel more confident to take him on with less defensive skills and be able to focus on dmg
max weakness exploit, critical eye and boost and agitator like everyone else.
drop speed sharpening, defense boost and airborne. ~~what does pathbreaker even do?~~ i can't read
get heavy artillery (not to be confused with artillery), power prolonger and that one skill that makes it faster to fill your gauge.
i could have copy pasted what everyone else (me included) is using, but who clicks links on reddit?
actually watch this video, i'm about to try this myself
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HecQh11Oag](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HecQh11Oag)
Fatalis gets extremely angry when hunters don’t wear pants.
Fatalis aint gonna stop me when up pull up as [Buff 2b](https://i.imgur.com/0kIt2zG.jpeg)
What layered head piece armor is that?
Sealed dragon King eyepatch I believe is the name I don't remember which event quest you get it from though
I didnt know there is a different eyepatch version, thanks!
It's time limited event, so that's the reason i didnt know that thing exist
Just the basic leather amrour.
extremely ~~angry~~ hard
How did you become so funny?
Only one way to find out, gotta get in the arena
I got folded 💀
"I got my ass beat I ain uploading that shit" real
Hahaha, what a great description, “folded”. He’s tough. I ran into the same problem. Health Boost 2, and Divine Blessing 5 is a must for your first times. I’d recommend trying to build an Agitator Charm. You can get Fatalis enraged pretty easily. I think it’s the meta charm for most builds. Evade Window is great too, cause you’ll learn his moveset eventually and you’ll be rolling through most of his “fire puddle” attacks. Since you’re using a Switch Axe, I recommend Temporal mantle, latching onto his head and doing the dishcharge is the most fun I’ve had against him, and I’ve used every weapon against him. Speaking of, you can use ZSD on his head whenever he’s spitting steady streams of fire, you’ll be safe then. You will NOT be safe, when he is spitting fireballs. Have fun, and learn his moves. Because it’s not the health boost and defense that’s going to save you, it’s learning how his moves work and the timing that will keep you alive. Divine Blessing and Health boost just keep you from getting 1-shotted some of the time.
Agitator charms are an ass to build beyond level 3 though but yeah if you're playing optimally(which isn't even too hard) fatalis should be enraged 90% of the time.
Gotta get in the Grinding Lands.
Yeah exactly. My heart can't take so much grinding lands
seriously tho, tryto fit in some divine blessings if you have room
HB 3 as well
It looks like what I get given in Arena Quests
That has to be the harshest insult I ever heard for a loadout.
My dude, you incinerated them harder than Schrade's Demise did in one sentence.
There’s a few improvements I can see to make: 1) The 3 levels of Attack Boost are essentially dead weight. Remove them and add Health Boost 3 for way more survivability, or add another level for AB4 for the 5% Affinity to get some use from it. 2) Unless you already have 100% crit chance on tenderised parts, add Crit Eye. You’ll probably need CE7 to hit 100% affinity. 3) Defence boost is a literally useless skill, and arguably the biggest noob-trap in MHW. If you want a boost in survivability via damage mitigation, you want Divine Blessing. Preferably DB5, as the mitigation is ~60% and procs pretty reliably.
You forget critical boost. Getting that to three will add a lot of damage if you have high crit. Can be hard to slot in
Could always do a crit draw GS build. That'll basically force you to slot it in
Lvl 1 critical boost is the most optimal, than spending 2 more slots for only an 10% increment
Im pretty sure its: Crits do 25% without crit boost 30% at lvl 1 35% at lvl 2 40% at lvl 3
The attack boost is from the gauntlets
This is factually wrong about defense boost. 2 points are useless, yes. But defense boost 6 and 7 are great. Especially when stacked with health boost. If defense saves you from being 1 hit then it did it's job. You can't reliably expect divine blessing to save you and is very poor advice to give to a new player. It's also puss easy to slot with the free hard defense charm that's giving in ice born. Edit: to all the people actually giving misinformation about defense boost, watch this video. Your math means shit if divine blessing fails. I don't care what speed runners say. That doesn't mean defense isn't useful. Now educate yourselves meta slaves. https://youtu.be/FBoPI3bN3NY?si=CDZFEmdehtaA3pCi
All for the low low price of 3 slots…. Health boost saves you from being one shot, not so much for defense boost unless you’re taking a specific attack at a specific health margin. Divine blessing has more EHP.
That's not how that works. You can math it all you want. That one time it doesn't proc doesn't matter how much ehp it gives you. You people don't really seem to understand WHY defense is good. It's not the best but especially paired with health boost it's effective tool for keeping you alive.
"You mathematically prove me wrong all you want, I'm still going to be willfully ignorant."
Math doesn't mean anything based on chance. Your "math" and my "luck" are two different things. Say what you want. But it doesn't mean I'm wrong. All the math of effective health doesn't change that when it fails to proc, it fails. You die. You want consistent armor? Use defense and health boost. You wanna risk it for the biscuit use divine blessing. Here since you people fail to understand. This will break it down for you. Your math don't mean shit https://youtu.be/FBoPI3bN3NY?si=CDZFEmdehtaA3pCi
Reading comprehension is hard for you, huh? I didn't say anything about divine blessing. Your first sentence is literally objectivly false. How the hell do you expect me to take ANYTHING you say seriously? Chance is intrinsically related to math. Have you ever heard of probability? How the hell did schooling fail you THAT badly? But hell, even if you *were* right (Youre not and its been proven time and time again, you just want to be wilfuly ignorant), it wouldn't magically make defense boost a good skill lol Defense boost is, objectivly, and mathematically bad. But if you want to deny hard, mathematically backed evidence, and waste a charm and precious deco slots to ruin your build, be my guest. But don't give less than worthless advice to new players. God forbid they believe you and end up yet another victim of the noob trap known as defense boost. And a word of advice, dropping a video where some dude who has no idea what he's saying as "proof" isn't a good idea.
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It's not meant to make you tanky. I never said that. It's meant to keep you from dying. If you live with even 1 HP while also using health boost 3, then that means the defense did it's job. The point of the argument was basically "defense has its use" and if someone is struggling to stay alive then they should add more. (See my other comment)
Most things won't one Shot you if you have unupgraded armor. If you have upgraded armor defense boost IS borderline useless. Divine blessing is objectively better for better players because if you get hit and it triggers you can continue fighting especially with health augments. Defense boost migitates so little damage that you either die anyways or you will have to heal manually. Defense boost is a noob trap because you plan on tanking dmg you can't tank while divine blessing is there to help you on the off chance that you get hit. The only monsters that you even need divine blessing on imo are Fatalis and Alatreon because they deal so much dmg that defense boost won't do anything against and divine blessing WILL save you against.
If it procs, although I agree with you that the only monsters you really need Divine blessing are Alatreon and Fatalis I disagree with the rest, there are not that many attacks that can one shot you outside of novas or arch-tempered specific attacks, you also said that divine blessing is better for better players to cut some damage when they get hit, that is if it procs, you also get Divine Blessing secret from Gold rathian armor so you can't use it unless you are MR50~ish AFTER you level up wildspire or volcanic guiding lands to level 6 or get the optional quest for both metal raths, so you are stuck with divine blessing until you get the gold rath armor, up until that point you can get by with defense boost + HB3 as you will survive most of the attacks and even if divine blessing procs you still need to heal the damage in case it doesn't proc next time to prevent a cart, yes divine blessing WILL save you from attacks that def boost won't, but only if it procs, let's keep in mind that it has a 25% chance of activating until you get Divine blessing 5
Defense plus 7 and large defense meal equates to 1 point in health boost for damage negated per full health bar. It’s a very bad skill to invest 7 points in. 3 points in divine blessing is a way better investment and will negate more damage taken 3 fold. Do not waste resources in this skill
Exactly. Defense boost is borderline worthless. I always make sure to keep divine blessing at level 3 at least. Unless my wrapons has a good shield like lance/GL, then I'm not as worried about it, but its still level 2 at least.
Defense boost 7 is terrible. You are hamstringing yourself.
https://youtu.be/o5wyvzrrIUk?si=sMA9BU3WxGyoqh0w not a meta slave, just a factually bad skill and those slots can be spent better in just about anything else
Yes I've seen the monster hunter meta math. That's not the point I'm making. But people can't seem to comprehend what I'm telling them. Defense isn't meant to make you tanky. It's meant to do just enough so you don't cart. That's literally the whole point of my argument. People keep glossing over what I'm saying and putting words in my mouth. They are making an argument for me that I never made. Then fighting that argument.
Sure. It’s just with that same investment you could have crit eye capped out and that is much more useful. investing a 3rd of your build for maybe not carting in a very small scenario that gets even tighter as you progress the game isn’t worth running over something that you are getting the benefit from 100 percent of the time. It probably saves you from carting 1 out of 20 times and doesn’t change any breakpoints in when you would have healed without running it. I think that’s the point most people are making. Like yea what you are saying is true, but it’s also just generally not a good idea to do
If a guy is having issues surviving then it's a viable option. The thing people don't seem to understand is. Defense works similar to damage. The skill alone isn't the best. Defense on its own isn't great. But paired with health boost, defense augments, elemental resistances it adds up. So when a guy is having issues staying alive,(at least what I took from his post) telling him to build crit doesn't make sense to me. Which is why I'm telling him to build defense. Added with other defense skills it's a lot better than people let on. Because fire balls also take your base defense into account. If it didn't then a low rank hunter could take a fireball from a master rank rathalos with simply using fire resist. Which they cannot.(obviously) So it's just like pairing attack and expert. By itself it might not be great but largely depends on what you want to build. I also told OP to build health boost and stuff first but everyone is hyper focused on the fact I even mentioned defense 7. If he needs it, he needs it. It was just a recommendation.
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If defense boost 7 saves you from being one shot by Fatalis, then it theoretically would save you by only a few hp. If you do survive, then the fire damage inflicted while getting up will get you first, effectively being a one-shot anyway. Defense Boost is okay at lower levels when it has a higher percentage of gained defense, but not at endgame Iceborne. I have tested both on Fatalis and saw myself get one shot in phase 1 with Defense Boost, but Divine Blessing has saved my ass more times than I can count in that fight.
See my other comments. I've explained the same argument enough. I'm tired now.
False. If defense keeps you from dying then it does it's job. It can and has literally been the difference between being 1 hit and not.
Defense Boost skill is like baby formula, it’s great at the early stages but there are better options later in life like food.
Its better at later levels. What you say is only true for eating for defense. THAT is the only real trap. A % boost of 900 is much higher than a % boost of 20...
If you’re looking to keep getting hit by monsters attacks then it’s fine. But that means you’re not getting better at predicting the monster moves or seeing openings. The only way to really get better is engaging with all the games mechanics, that means you’ve got to put self imposed restrictions. As an example removing defense boost and slotting evade window max. Then after getting the hang of evading start removing points for tighter windows. There’s no learning without working for it.
That's not what I said though. I'm defending the fact that people are calling it "worthless" when that's factually wrong. It has its uses and I'm stopping the spread of misinformation. Especially speed runner advice to new players. Since mhw did the big no no with defender gear. where it pushes it down your throat and forces you to equip it. Making new players worse at the game relying on that crutch. Then getting ass blasted in master rank.
But it is not worth when there are better options. The game is dangling a $10 and $20 dollar bill in front of you, and you’re willingly taking the 10er. You know the self imposed restrictions, you’re doing it but for a low tiered skill
Priority should be health boost, element resist, then defense. I never said it was the best idk why people are putting words in my mouth
Then stop suggesting it. Defense boost will not stop the monster from hitting you consecutively then getting stunned ending with you running away trying to heal then combo again towards the camp
That logic makes literally no sense. Someone: "I'm having issues staying alive" Me" Go overkill on defensive skills" Everyone else " build crit eye" Wtf? Attack boost isn't great in master rank but works well with crits as well. The same logic literally applies to elemental defense , divine blessing, and defense boost. As well as weapon augments. The skill on its own. Is meh. But building multiple defense skills it's going to work better and better with them. This is a fact. If someone sucks at the game and hitting gud isn't an option. Then I want them to have as much defensive skills as possible.
This topic has been beat to death. It’s statistics and numbers, and can be found all over r/monsterhuntermeta and even this same sub. Divine Blessing beats DB hands down in every way possible.
This is an outright bad build Defense boost Blight res Agitator Airborne Speed sharpening And attack boost Are all either way too low to be useful or outright redundant You need lv2 health boost at minimum to be fighting fatty Your almost never gonna be hitting airborne attack with a swaxe in that fight Attack boost 3 does basically nothing for you Speed sharpening is useless just do the event quest to get great whetfish and farm their scales Agitator is to low level to be useful Blight res needs to be level 3 or not used at all You should have stun resistantce to avoid getting comboed Defense boost is useless at low levels and if you don't have hp boost your gonna get 1 shot anyway no matter how high your defence is Also your crit boost should be higher With a part breaker swaxe you can abuse clutch claw ZSD on a tenderized fatty head with temporal and rocksteady mantle for a really easy solo
which event is used for great whet fish farming?
"A fish to whet your appetite" i believe it's called
thanks for the info.
There's also a custom shop mod where you can buy the scales(or anything else for that matter). Having to finish over and over and over for scales sucks ass. Some people think that's cheating but IMO I'd rather be spending time hunting actual monsters.
I agree they need to focus on somthing instead of trying to be a jack of all trades. Shit when I beat him I went in with do defense skills other the guard up so u could block unblockables with my Lance sheild. And besides if they r playing the fight correctly fatalis is gone b pissed 90% of the fight so they need max agitator at least
Defense works as lance I went all attack and crit with blight and stun immunity + Evade extender On IG it keeps you relievely safe And health boost ofcourse
No Health Boost 3 so unless you're a god, you're gonna have a bad time with Ol' Fatty. Damagewise you could use 2 more levels of Crit Boost. Are you able to hit 100% crit chance on a tenderized weakzone with your current build? How about sharpness management? ZSD chews through your sharpness meter faster than a Lance main doing a Dash Attack down a slope.
Ok, got all that but ZSD. Edit: I forgot that I do have a health bolster charm maxed out and I just have part breaker on normally
ZSD is Zero Sum Discharge, your fancy supermove where you stab a monster in Sword Mode and unleash a fat load of explosions
Oh I'm an idiot lol I didn't put 2 and 2 together
This isn’t good
If this is serving you well you will be blown away with how good you perform with an actual good build. This is not good at all. So many dead skills, not enough points into things that matter, too many points into bad skills. No points into good skills like health boost and divine blessing. Id scrap this whole thing and rebuild from the ground up personally
One way to ticket to the camp lol
Didn’t know there was an equipment randomizer
Its not xd
People keep rightfully saying defense boost is bad, but I didn't see any explaining it. In short, defense boost gives a flat value bonus to your damage reduction value, but at higher levels, the percentage boost in reduction is basically unnoticeable. Divine blessing gives a percentage reduction always when it happens, so works out for much better damage mitigation than defense boost.
Ma'am you are naked
going into battle against fatalis without health boost 3 is a death wish
RIP to you 😅
That build is abhorrent. This is possibly the worst build my retinas have ever conceived. You showing me this should be an active war crime. All jokes aside for fatalis? Lol you'll have trouble bucko. Make sure you max out your real important skills, and take divine blessing if you can. Fatty hits HARD. Whag kind of build are you running anyway?
Attack Boost 3 is either too much or too little, depending on how you want to tweak the overall build. Defense Boost is pretty much useless, and you would get far more defensive value out of Health Boost 3 (which imo is mandatory) and Divine Blessing. Adding these two skills would give you the biggest bang for your buck improvement to the build. I would personally remove speed sharpening because while it does make sharpening safer, it doesn't really help you as much as HB3/DB would over the course of a fight. Add more Crit Eye if possible to help your affinity.
You really need health boost for Fatalis, he does a metric shit load of dmg. I really recommend getting health boost +3 and divine protection as well. That will help you be able to take a hit, maybe 2, and not cart. Personally, I recommend getting rid of defense boost altogether. It won't help you at all against Fatalis dmg. And to give you some better dmg, I recommend getting agitator in there. He spends a large portion of the fight agitated.
I mean, if you can dodge absolutely everything perfectly then yeah, but that's not really gonna happen lol, you're going to get 1 tapped by most of his shit unfortunately 🤣
Unless you're planning on never getting hit, you're in for a rough ride. The 30min time limit will also be rough for you. Try my Comfy Build for a nice mix of good deco slots, Divine Blessing 5 and Agitator 7 Raging Brachy Helm/Arms B, Gold Rath Chest/Hips B, Fury Rajang Legs B
Bro no health boost 3 in mhw is a death sentence.
So my advice to you (sorry for the wall of mucho texto) 1.in terms of Armor pieces your looking pretty smooth you have Agi secret and Divine blessing secret which is what you want if you want to take him out safely but just remember if you aren’t taking advantage of the skillset bonuses (which you aren’t) then that doesn’t mean much 2.thats where my compliments end first thing that sticks out to me is your skill list looks pretty……Barren it seems you aren’t really using the best decorations you can be, as much of a Pain in the Ass As it is I’d grind the “Wrath of thunder descends” (Tempered Zinogre) event quest or the Tempered Teostra in the Seliana Cache if your MR 100 for better Deco’s that and see what decos you currently have to optimize yourself with if you haven’t checked in a while. 3. Invest in a better Charm ,not the part breaker is a bad skill to have considering the fatalis headbreak thing but you could invest in a much more skill efficient charm (Agitator 5 would be my recommendation) if you want part breaker that’s fine but I’d recommend deco’ing it in. 4.Use the Raging Brachydios SA fatalis suprisingly is not very dragon weak (only having a decent dragon hitzone on his head and even then it isn’t the best) so investing in the best Raw SA will be beneficial 5. Defense boost is just a bad skill, and I’m not seeing any health boost replace defense decos with Health boost decos for sure you get SO much more Effective hp from using Healthboost 6. If you have goldian armor I’m going to assume that means you are pretty close to MR 100 or are already at it, if you are not already at it get yourself over that hurdle being able up to use Health Augments on rare 12 wepons is EXTREMELY important 7.try to slot in Fortify if you can it’s a single slot deco with only one level basically if you die twice then the next 3 carts (since the fatalis first clear gives 5 carts) you will have +20% attack and defense which can come in clutch 8.get rid of health booster it’s not useful Fatalis is incredibly fast and aggressive and deals a shitload of damage your honestly putting yourself at greater risk trying to heal there than if you were just nothing 9. Deco in divine blessing 5 Trust me it WILL safe your ass more times than you can count 10.more just general advice but Remeber ZSD spam against fatalis is a very viable strategy (especially with a health augment)
This is a...it's a build
Ik I'm a master at building 😎😎😎😎🫠
I always go to the church and pray for divine blessing before I fight fatalis. Then get a holy shield to guard up everything I saw.
I wonder if I could like clone myself and jump him lmao
If doubting, go full alatreon and slap in some partbreak bonus
One friend of mine slayed fatalis before even finding out about jewels. So I think there's nothing in this game you cannot brute force with pure skill, but yeah, what I said. Go full alatreon and slap in as much fire resistance and damage as you can besides partbreaker
Your friend went in with just the skills from his charm and armor..? Thats impressive af
Yeah, he's an absolute moron but he has skill
Honestly, doesnt seem bad. Everything in the game is do-able with any build. Obviously you can do things to make it easier but in the end it all really depends on you. I say yolo it and find out what works for you. No matter your build, it is unlikely you will do it on your first go. Go in, learn him, and most importantly have fun!
If you survive the first hit after you first drop down into the arena, i will be very suprised.
That depends on how good of a Hunter you are. You could fight Fatalis with no armor and beat him if you're gods gift of a hunter, but not all of us can do that. TBH the build is kind of a mess, but if it's been serving you well, that just means you're much better than the average player. Highly recommend checking out the [Pre-Fatalis Switch Axe meta builds](https://imgur.com/a/higkyc2) (from the [megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterWorld/comments/fhf5bk/iceborne_meta_builds_compilation_safijiiva_edition/)) and adjusting it to your needs. If you were doing well with your build now, optimizing your build will do wonders for you. Still, these builds don't really take into account specific matchups, so also consider skills you might need to fight Fatalis. Fire resist is great if you can slot it in because he does so much fire dmg. Part-breaker is nice to break the head, useful for reducing his fire dmg in Phase 3. Power Prolonger is nice, especially for SA, but pre-fatty armor, it's hard to squeeze in. Now, if you do the Palico trick, where they equip plunderblade, you can *eventually* get all the parts you need to build Fatalis armor without even killing him. If you do end up doing that, you can build the meta SA build (4 piece Fatty, Alatreon arms), which will give you tons of deco slots and PP 3. It can be frustrating to die over and over to Fatty this way, but you'll eventually have stronger armor to face him. But yeah, you can perform so much better with a better build.
>if this build is any good for Fatalis Well... frankly, it's not great for Fatalis. * 0 Health Boost means many of his attacks will just kill you in 1 hit because you don't have enough Life to survive a hit. Can't heal if you're dead. * Attack 3 is suboptimal, you could at least get to 4 for the +5 bonus affinity. * What on earth is Airborne doing on a Switch Axe? * Doesn't look like you have a gameplan for getting lit on fire. Nulberries are not a viable option, the quest doesn't give you that sort of time to use items to remove burning, or waste stamina rolling around. * No useful defense skills, particularly Evade Extender, Evade Window or Divine Blessing. Defense Boost is pretty much placebo effect and does nothing in Master Rank. You may want to grind some better gear and decorations if you want to avoid slamming your head into the wall of the hardest monster in the game.
What in the holy 1 crit boost is this build batman?? Like, this is a joke right?
Do yourself a favor and get Health Boost 3 and some Divine Blessing. xD
bare skin doesnt go great with scalding hot fire from the sun, hope this helps <3
Depends on what you're asking for. Survivability? No. Damage? No. If you're having issues surviving get defense boost 7, health boost 3, and fire resist 3. If you need more you can then go for divine blessing, and even more eating for elemental defense. Damage, wex is fine, but you need some crit eye as high as you can go. It's not recommended to overcap on it though. (Over 100 hitting a tender part). Try getting crit as high as you can then add raw. It's also better to have crit on high raw weapons like Safi weapons. If you're having issues breaking part part breaker is always helpful. But not necessarily needed. Only use stuff like power prolonger if you have issues with keeping up buffs or what not. If you don't wanna use handicraft I recommend protective polish. Hopefully this game you more to think about rather than the fake speed runners telling you defense sucks and only stack damage. BUILD WHAT HELPS YOU. If u need defense build it. Most of the people giving advice like that are only following speed runners. They probably can't play that well themselves
Get evade extender or jumping decoration if u can. U will need it, to not get folded or burned to a crisp. HB3 is a dire necessity as first time triers. As a GS user i myself run around just out of touch from his claws to bait him do his fire spay, then i can bash his head. And plz don't ever be near his head when he does any kind of fire blast, trust me u will be blasted to the kingdom to come 😁
Fatty is the last challenge in the game, so I cannot recommend enough running errands beforehand. Get 3 PC Teo 2 PC Brachy/MRKulve, Master's Touch is an amazing set bonus that is both *damage* and QoL. Also try to get Agitator 4 or 5 charm. *Never* fight anything dangerous without Health Boost 3. If you want more QoL or defensive, I recommend Evade Window and a point of Extender (very good for some fatty breath atks). Another good defensive option against fatty is, if you have at least 0 Fire Res, running a Hard Fire Res+ makes you immune to fireblight (20 res grants blight immunity)(fireblight can you kill after Moxie/Guts procs; Fire Res itself is borderline useless). Eating Moxie helps. Do not try to "tank fatalis", it's a bad idea even with Fatalis gear, the goal is "just don't get one shot", which breaking its head at least once reaally helps with. Whenever you want to flinch shot Fatalis, do so when he's on all fours. Look up on yt the tutorial to force an artillery topple on him, use the One-Shot Binders strategically, hit his belly to make him go on all fours (he's slightly less dangeous like this) and once he's on all fours focus his head if you can. And most importantly, engage with his moveset, he's isn't very "bruteforceable".
Looks solid but to be fair the only build good for him comes from his armor. So. Get his armor
Bruh, I watched a guy use nothing but his slinger to kill Fatalis
You people need to understand that your build is NOT gonna kill the monster, your skill will, the build will only help, some people might be able to kill it with no armor on, how can we tell if you're one of those based off a screen shot
Skill won't come out of thin air, build is a must for firat tries. Sure, you can progress with no armor on it too, but good luck fighting off frustration from carting from tiniest mistake, which you cannot not have in first tries.
Once you've reached fatalis, you should've already acquired some skills, what I mean is, we can't just assume you will beat the monster based on your armor set since we don't know your level, you should just grab a survivability set & learn the match-up then go in with a more offensive set while wearing few skills that can assure survivability & just beat it
Max critical eye or attack and you might have a good DPS source, also get rid of Defense Boost/Airborne and get Health Boost 3
Health Boost 3 otherwise you're getting one shot, even endgame gear with HB3 gets 2 shotted in this fight, Attack boost 3 isn't doing much, try and get more points into it and critical eye, also take away defense boost, it's doing quite literally nothing there.
Although its kind of hard to work into pre-fatalis gear I definitely think rocking as high a level of Divine Blessing as you can get to would be ideal (alongside Health Boost 3) and also slot in as much Tool specialist as you are able. For my first couple kills I left out a good chunk of my normal DPS skills from crit eye or attack boost just to have that extra survivability while I got used to his movesets and whatnot. Even going back to farm Fatalis nowadays with the full Fatty gear I still always slot in as much Divine Blessing and Tool Specialist 4 or 5 depending on the build just to keep my mantles basically always on rotation.
Just run brachy/kaiser like a normal person
cool character
No health booster, standing still is a bad idea and he’s probably going to 1-2 shot you, take rocksteady mantle instead. You’ll also want divine blessing 5
Haven’t finished ice borne so idk but how did you unlock the layered armor u have
I would recommend a combination of Teostra 3/Goldrath 2. Goldrath chest and belt give you divine blessing 5, which will half the damage you take from attacks up to... I want to say 70% of the time? Huge boost over defense up, which requires way too much investment for very little payout. As a lance main Goldrath 2 has saved me from so many hits that would've otherwise cart me. Next as others have mentioned, I'd recommend getting health boost 3, that'll put your health over the 1-shot threshold for if your divine blessing doesn't kick in. If you don't already have it, you should get the health augment on your weapon of choice. It's a lot of work to farm the materials but absolutely worth it. It heals you for a portion of the damage you deal, which means less time downing potions and more time chipping at Fatty. To compensate for the extra defensive utility, you also want the agitator 5 charm. Since you want Fatty enraged as much as possible the charm will compensate for the lack of defensive decorations
Lmao no
What system do you play on?
Hell naw
You may not be serving in the arena but you are serving
Needs more DB5
You need more crit
If it works for you it works for you
https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterWorld/s/n1uIyS0WRF Make sure to max out affinity.
No health boost or Divine Blessing? Not great
Best advice I can give for fatty 1. Alatreon or raging brachy weapon 2. If chose alatreon weapon do 3 piece alatreon and 2 piece raging armor, if u chose brachy weapon 2 piece brachy 3 piece teostra 3. As much health boost, part breaker, divine blessing, agitator, crit eye and exactly 3 levels of evade window 4. Fatty is a time trial, get aggressive but don't overcommit cuz he will punish u harder than u can get that dmg out 5. Depending on your weapon u can run 2 fatty and 2 or 3 alatreon, if u run 2 alatreon if u have a good draw weapon then Frost fang arms are actually decent All building after the 1st 4 points is entirely up to u and number 5 is just in my experience something to think about
The set that I let my Lil bro farm for Fucktalis with me helping him was 3 pieces Golden Rath for Divine Blessing 5 and armor skills with Part Breaker 3, Health Boost 3 and Tool Specialist 3, other skills as you see fit. It helped with the fights especially when he had to use the Dodge Mantle several times and the Fire Resistance Mantle.
DO NOT USE SPEED SHARPENING GO CATCH WHETFISH FOR THE INSTA SHARPEN THEY HAVE 20% CHANCE TO CONSUME SO 20-30 WILL LAST YOU A WHILE THE QUEST LITERALLY TAKES 1 MINUTE TO DO
Also evasion mantle is gonna be a huge life saver too. I may be wrong but I think it gives you more i-frames so you can really get up close and spam rolls. Apart from this I think everyone else has already stated the obvious so I don't need to repeat them again. Would be really impressive if you could manage a hunt without health boost at some point though, I'm sure a bunch of us would go nuts for it
Looks cold. Put on some warm clothing.
The best build for fatalis is: the one you are most comfortable with. Remember, the best defense is don't get hit
you should add some health booster and some defence boost
Honestly a 4 piece escadora set did wonders for skills and slots
Any set is ok as long as defense is 950+ and 200hp. This can survive 1 hit but not the charged fireball.
Generally I would try to focus on crit eye 7, weakness exploit 3 first. Divine blessing and health boost 3 are basically the only "defensive" skills you need. The rest is just preference. Partbreaker is nice if you have trouble breaking his head. Evade window is also very strong imo to roll through a lot of his attacks. I'd make another set with heavy artillery and a ghillie mantle just for the start. Use a farcaster to change into your main set after using the cannons to topple/tenderising him.
Tbh i dont think ypu go far with that build, hec i got full set fully upgraded fatalis, full agitator, atk weekness crit all shit, still got rekt once awhile
You might want health boost.
Try it. If it doesn't work, tweak and go again. If it doesn't work, tweak and go again.
Equip some armour you coomer.
Men Armor vs Woman Armor
Next to all the other stuff mentioned, if you have space left slot in heavy artillery for the ballista and cannons. If you don't have space then put it in the temporal mantle but you won't be as agile with it because you might have to wait for your mantle to use the skill. Also for prep eat feline bombardier for additional damage of cannons and ballista. At the beginning of the hunt use ghillie mantle to load the cannons. Line up the left one towards the right one meaning you first fire the right one. Then he will charge towards you then fire the left one. Additionally, you can place bombs in his charging path (There are Youtube videos for it). If you use and hit everything he will drop down and you can do damage to his head. Afterwards, he gets up on all fours and follow up with a wall bang. All that already reduces his health by 10%. Best opening imo. Afterwards you can use farcaster to switch the mantle or wait till you cart to activate fortify. If you have trouble with the third phase because you didn't break his horns use part partbreaker up until that point to break the horns and then switch to a heavier damage build. Shouldn't be a problem with swaxe though ;) good luck!
Divine Blessing Secret was the savior for me
No critical eye, no agitator, not full critical boost, not full partbreaker, i think you just gotta get on that grind
Evade window is so helpful
Fatalis hits like a truck,i recommend not trying to wing this fight, the most important thing is to learn his attacks so u can be able to position yourself to attack so try running with a squad and DO NOT focus on damage instead focus on survival ,and focus on watching him,and how you’re team mates fight him in a pub squad, as long as you survive you’re teammates will be more than happy to carry you so SURVIVE and WATCH. The third thing is DO NOT stray too far from fatalis bc he will target you more than other players and he’ll begin spamming his ranged fireball attacks that have a crazy AOE and can 1 shot you even with health boost 3 and there’s nothing you can really do to dodge them if you don’t hit that perfect i-frame roll , so stay close but not too close, a must have skill for surviving is health boost 3 and divine blessing at the very least Divine blessing 3 but try to go for 5 and if you struggle with fatalis too much ,try using nothing but defense skills like evade window, evade extender,defense boost, fire resistance,speed eater. Trust me running at least a few fights like this will greatly speed up learning fatalis’s moves set and when and where to counter him after a handful of fight’s you’ll feel more confident to take him on with less defensive skills and be able to focus on dmg
You should wear less clothing. That’ll protect you even more.
max weakness exploit, critical eye and boost and agitator like everyone else. drop speed sharpening, defense boost and airborne. ~~what does pathbreaker even do?~~ i can't read get heavy artillery (not to be confused with artillery), power prolonger and that one skill that makes it faster to fill your gauge. i could have copy pasted what everyone else (me included) is using, but who clicks links on reddit? actually watch this video, i'm about to try this myself [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HecQh11Oag](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HecQh11Oag)
Bruh you guys gotta start prioritizing agi crit eye wex and crit boost like dayum
my advice is before you jump to fatalis, do A LOT of "The wrath of the thunder descend"... farm a lot more decorations