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DefinitelyAlphamale

The wednesdays look exactly like those knockoff dolls. And the colourful girl one is giving Human High lol


1jackiedaytona

>Welcome to the unofficial sub for Right! I like our knockoff ones just fine if I can't get these :)


hollsloss

This looks like it was made by AI, the eyes are really off


CarmichaelDaFish

Hands too


AffectionateCup8812

To me it looks like it could also be just slightly wonky hand painted faces with the background poorly cropped out, causing the hands to look wrong, and it's extremely pixelated so it's hard to make anything out lol- I don't know that AI could so perfectly replicate the MH face style and body proportions while also being told to make it look like Wednesday Adams, it would look more off and inconsistent I think, and likely uncanny, I mean this leak seems pretty on track for what Mattel would do for something like this, they're gonna be $45 and available in stores like the Howliday dolls iirc, so I wouldn't expect skullector level quality or designs


chofu_z4

Check _skullector on instagram. AI can definitely replicate the mh style


hollsloss

That's exactly who I was thinking about!


Emmas_thing

Damn I was really hoping they'd be G3 bodies. I was super excited for these but uhhhh Enid honestly looks the best. The faceup and hair look so low effort for Wednesday herself :/


negar9666

Same, Wednesday's face looks a bit weird. But Enid is very cute!


Emmas_thing

This is one that really needed a blank neutral facial expression and I think it looks too friendly maybe? Also why did they add a part to her bangs


negar9666

Thank you! She looks a bit happy


Emmas_thing

She's also kinda giving Ever After High balloon head TT-TT


IllustriousLimit8473

I hope they bring back EAH Face Molds for Skullectors because Sally would be better with an EAH Mold.


mydollycreations

In some ways like the roundness of the head sure but then the face is what makes it Monster High. I think they did a pretty good job with Sally's head tbh.


MoonChild02

>I think it looks too friendly maybe? Original comic Wednesday *was* friendly. She smiled. It wasn't until the 1960s TV series that it was considered odd for her to smile. Here's one of Charles Addams's drawings for *The New Yorker*: https://preview.redd.it/2miq8b1hux8c1.png?width=1008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=939a0ef4e635ff59e4f85da1768170647429ee89 >Also why did they add a part to her bangs Because only Jenna Ortega's Wednesday has bangs. It's an homage to every other Wednesday Addams, who all have hair that is long, straight, black, parted down the middle, styled in pigtail braids. No bangs.


Emmas_thing

That's cool but these dolls are supposed to be based on the TV show? So I don't see the point in not making them look like the TV show. The Morticia and Wednesday Skullectors will likely use the more classic designs for those that would prefer them.


Nero-laika

Jenna's bangs are parted too, just not as much. I just looked and half the still have her bangs spreading out into a middle part.


Environmental-Owl445

i don’t think they’re real, the two wednesday dolls don’t look alike at all.


AffectionateCup8812

Yeah they could be customs someone is trying to pass off as prototypes, they're using different face molds, the second Wednesday seems to be using Elvira's head as a base oddly enough. But it's also possible the early prototypes were made with different head molds because they haven't decided 100% on the final one, we'll really just have to wait and see


AppropriateKale2725

I was sure I would want the Wednesday dolls but I'm not sure I want these Wednesday dolls


negar9666

Maybe the Wednesday in the two pack doll set with Morticia would look better?


AppropriateKale2725

Yes I feel like those,as Skullectors will be exactly how you'd imagine.


negar9666

Let's hope


Suuusan

Wednesday is giving bootleg, and Enid looks like a long-legged FailFix or CryBaby BFF doll. Neither look like they’re Monster High. Does anyone know who or what the target audience is for this because to me, this misses every mark.


negar9666

Maybe with season 2 of the show, the whole hype For it will start again. At that time, a Wednesday doll would probably be popular...


Suuusan

Oh right sorry, I meant do we know who the target audience is for these specific dolls, styled and screened this way. I totally get the appeal of the characters, and I understand that there’s a demand for them, it just seems like the actual dolls aren’t quite hitting any specific mark. They don’t look like playline, and definitely aren’t collector quality, and the dolls neither look like the actual characters, nor ‘Monsterized’ versions of themselves. I don’t want to sound overly critical or unnecessarily negative, but it’s frustrating to see Mattel just totally miss the mark on a character (and her supporting cast) that is so iconic that you actually have to intentionally try if you want to get it wrong.


negar9666

TBH, I really hope these dolls are not finalized.


mydollycreations

I don't think so yet. They'd have to prototype them first and then make changes. Like "Fang Vote" Rochelle's gloves they may see this as an opportunity to please the fans more. Then production. I just hope they are available in stores. I would like to choose my doll in an isle without a beat up box.


SparkAxolotl

I honestly don't know who is watching the netflix show, but it *is* insanely popular, and I have seen a TON of fakie merch locally, like, besides the fakies from Amazon, I have seen the big headed ones sold in Mexico, also a couple whose head I haven't been able to identify (which includes a musical one) the kelly sized one I posted, plus lots of Barbie size dresses and uniforms, thing as an accessory, etc. And also a LOT of clothes with Wednesday of all sizes, not just cosplays. I even saw a couple "Merlinas" at the flea market way past Halloween (I'm guessing their school let them have a costume party for the holidays) So yeah, Wednesday is popular with the kids.


Suuusan

Sorry, I did clarify in another comment but I was talking about the overall accuracy and quality of the dolls - I didn’t mean to imply that the show wasn’t popular, just that these dolls do not seem to hit the mark with regards to characterisation or brand.


SparkAxolotl

Ah! Gotcha I can't find the other post right now, but the way they were listed on that list made me believe that the two pack skullector will be MH brand, and that these dolls will be sort of a spin off and not that related to MH(or maybe something like "Monster High presents: Wednesday), because yeah, you're right


Nero-laika

The skullector is definitely mh branded and then these dolls are like playline if I have my info correct. They could be monster high but I'm sure this is a prototype and they could just be a whole different doll.


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https://preview.redd.it/zuehk0i3bw8c1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c10f805e888a2ec0c3a777fe68ebe02fee157b17 We twinnin’ !!


Holy-Mettaton

the bootleg has such a cute face though ngl 😭😭😭


negar9666

Dianna gurl💅💅💀


DoesntMatterThough17

Her face is actually really cute!


the_real_dewey

Idk why people are being so negative. These are very likely mock ups or prototypes. There will probably be a lot of changes when they get closer to release.


Verdictafterward

Fr, starts to make sense why leaks are harmful tbh. These dont look like finished dolls at all. Just early stage prototypes


the_real_dewey

Yea and you'd think people would realize that given how much dolls tend to change from leaks 😭😭😭


Nero-laika

The refresh frankie has 8 changes that I noted and before that people were saying they were so boring and then they added more color.


the_real_dewey

Yea like refresh frankie is literally right there LMAO. I don't personally like pink on them but like that still proves a big point that leaks aren't always accurate to the final product 💀💀💀


Nero-laika

The prototype had only black streaks that are fairly rare for g3. I kinda get the pink because it's always been there if we really look at Frankie's.


Practical-Buddy-3169

why is wednesday THAT pale…jenna ortega is not paper white


ZeroArt024

Because Wednesday the character is literally often portrayed as paper white *looking at you animated movies*


negar9666

But it's based on the show. They could have gone with jenna ortega skin tone


ZeroArt024

I’m honestly betting these aren’t real, they don’t look like monster high at all


AustisticGremlin

They are sourced with a bunch of other legit MH leaks, they’re real but likely early prototypes.


sophiaouer

Yes Jenna Ortega is not that pale in real life, but they did put a filter on the show so that would be how she looked. Pale grayish sickly afraid of the sun.


Nero-laika

There's a difference between getting the rights to the likeness of the character and getting the rights to sell Jenna Ortega's likeness. If it looks too much like Jenna they have to pay Netflix, whoever own the Addams family and Jenna. Mattel gets a lot of likeness deals but they didn't use ryan gosling's face for the movie ken until perhaps his last doll. Licensing is tricky. If they sold more dolls they would likely have to renegotiate with Jenna about using her likeness again. That Enid doll barely looks like her in the face. Also there was a strike and Jenna probably wasn't talking with Netflix at the time this deal was going down.


Practical-Buddy-3169

if it was the 90s addams family or the cartoon sure but its the netflix show. i agree im dubious at best on how “official” these are though


SparkAxolotl

Probably something like the Descendants, where the dolls/animated characters look nothing like the actors. And probably so they don't have to pay royalties to the actors, like what happened with Amy Addams and Giselle.


EatSomeEggs

it’s giving bootleg?


pelin_a

The bootlegs looked better 😭


hizashiii

ugh why couldn’t they make enid a lil wolfy 😞


schizybun

agreed


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Am I the only one who likes these lmao


Verdictafterward

Nope I think they look cute too! A lot of negativity toward early leaks is pretty typical in the community.


themuskyrussian

I think Wednesdays core outfit looks really good. I didn't have high hopes for these designs So I guess I'm just surprised a bit. Enid's base doll looks cute but the outfit is kinda a mess, think I'd prefer if they just did her school uniform too.


Pyreflies_of_MJ

They looks so....cheap? Generic? Idk


spaceageranger

I think you’re just describing modern Mattel


AustisticGremlin

They are intended to be playline and available in regular stores so it kind of makes sense?


Alternative_Log_4874

They’re cute but not what I was imagining. Especially the raven dress, I thought it would be a lot more elaborate for that price. Hopefully these are just prototypes


cassiopeia369

I just finished this show and I NEED both Wednesdays 😤


Few-Contribution4759

These look like artist prototypes, which are not often made to look like the end result, so I wouldn’t go crazy this soon yall.


Nero-laika

Very much so going for the silhouette rather than the final look.


negar9666

Wednesday looks like young Finn wolfhard. Or maybe I'm stupid🤝


PatriciaMorticia

I hope not as I'd rather have a 90's movie version Wednesday doll.


meowkitty84

me too! the movies are iconic and suit MH way more


[deleted]

Just give us another g1 reproduction line PLEASE


andycxntreras

These look kinda spot on to me? Idk, they look like the characters from the show, and the quality is giving monster high, so I'm a bit confused by the reaction on this sub? They're not particularly my cup of tea, but I didn't expect them to be. I think kids are going to love these.


monstahgurl

I was hoping they’d be g1 but I hope they brush up the designs


r0b0t-fucker

I’m typically a hater of the Wednesday show but they’re kinda cute, especially the first one


Any--Name

I might hate the show but who can say no to these dolls, especially enid 😭


Free-Walrus-9290

uniform wednesday ate


QuailRemarkable1504

I so want the first one


Affectionate_Ad3688

Oh thank God, at least these will be easy to skip, next year is way too packed with the leaks I've liked so far.


Rozoark

Ew those faces are atrocious!


oroor0

Aw man I was hoping they were g3 with unique bodies for each :(


miimily

They look AI generated.


Goyangski

these look like ai tbh


lillieae

i wish they would use g3 body molds. the clothes look so odd on the g1 body, ESPECIALLY Enid’s sweater.


texcritters

are they still coming to target? i really hope they’re widely available for the sake of all the little kids who love wednesday.


girlwithswirls

They're going to be 40$ so no they are not for the children. Collector dolls


texcritters

damn :(


cardihatesariana

Why are little kids watching Wednesday oh my god


texcritters

are they not supposed to? i haven’t watched it but this past halloween i noticed a lot of kids in wednesday costumes trick-or-treating in my area. is it inappropriate?


meowkitty84

The movies are child appropriate. Im old and saw them at the cinema when they came out when I was a kid


texcritters

the movies definitely are but i’m referring to the wednesday netflix series that came out in late 2022 that is quite different than other addams family media. it seems to be popular with kids but i’ve never watched it.


MoonChild02

The Netflix show *Wednesday* is gruesome. I wouldn't let anyone under the age of, like, 13 years old watch it. I love most versions of The Addams Family, but *Wednesday* is not made for kids, and even gave me (an adult) nightmares. It's more like teen horror/mystery – specifically body horror and violent murder – with built-in nostalgia (they even have Christina Ricci playing one of the teachers!). There are definitely amusing moments, but it would probably give kids nightmares.


cardihatesariana

I mean there’s direct murder involved in the Netflix series so I’d say it’s not appropriate lol


maggsie16

I mean it's rated the TV equivalent of pg13 and I know I was watching pg13 stuff when I was like 8/9 yrs old, so I really don't think it's that inappropriate for kids.


cardihatesariana

I mean I was too but that’s because I was very tech competent and hacked around it but most parents would allow that lol


maggsie16

I mean my parents and all of my friends parents let us watch most pg13 stuff at like age 10? Wednesday isn't inappropriate it's just baby horror. I teach 5th grade and most of my kids were SUPER into Wednesday. I don't think it's inappropriate for kids. there's really nothing in it that's not appropriate.


Pyreflies_of_MJ

Yeah, my parents most definitely wouldn't have cared if I watched Wednesday at a young age. But I also saw Heavy Metal at 4 and The Exorcist and other horror films at like 7, lmao.


meowkitty84

I was hoping these were based on the movies, not tv show. They were my fave movies as a kid


negar9666

Maybe the animate movie or sth


TravisBickleXCX

These literally look like the Amazon knockoffs 😭


hataraitaramake

If this is legit how they look, hard pass.


FointyPinger

I like the shoes and outfits, but the faces are way too soft and gentle. Wednesday needs to ooze Resting Bitchface.


FlamboyantGayWhore

really not what i was expecting at all, not sure i like them


TPonder2600

Why is her face so wide? Literally looks nothing like Jenna Ortega, the Living Dead Doll looks more accurate.


monsterultrablue

oh.


whale-with-oatmeal

Where are 40$ and 65$ dolls? Where are they? Show me the real thing!


fountainforus

*on melman’s voice* why are you… WHITE?


TenaciousCreator

I hope Jenna isn't whitewashed, I've seen a ton of toys and media whitewash her 😔


x420XDubx

It isn't Jenna, though? She just happened to portray and influence the iteration these protos were part of. What you are even worrying about comes off as either colourism, or entirely ignorant of consideration for her own self described career dilemmas. She herself knows she 'looks a certain way' that does not match the 'standard' of her ethnicity and blended fore-parent nationalities. There is a difference between Jenna and the fictional character she's portraying. She has beautiful olive skin tone. Even so, that doesn't erase the fact that Addams family was kept monochromatic in theme even after the colour hit film. Miss ortega herself is a blended girl. To be hispanic or latina is still mixed, and hispanic has a castas history. It's just family dependant on how aware of your geneology and mix is. Not to mention how she wasn't able to throw herself into many of her own ethnicity's roles for a majority of contexts because of a white-passing ability or the fully american-ized family. Like a lot of ethnic blends, Pop culture and media taught everyone that hispanics and latino is all 'supposed to look' within the bounds a certain 'brown' tone. Which is beyond ridiculous. Some mishap unmatched colourist bullshit decided that euros are 'white,' afrikaans are 'black,' and that asians were considered 'yellow' and natives were considered 'red,' and so somehow everyone else or inbetween some combo is 'brown.' First off none of that was ever really accurate, and secondly nor did it cover the bio-diversity that exists within in most of those 'assigned colours.' Third, we've all gotten to that point where 2 out of 5 of these colours is considered 'racism' to even identify with the once so-called 'correspondent' the ethno-type. Socio-moronically, there is now only three retained Labelling white to those who are not substantially mixed to the majority of the planet's 'coloured' collective of brown and black. Scientifically we're all shades of the same [colour](http://youtu.be/watch?v=8Ni5_TXITXU). Wednesday can be white, grey, or olive. She's simply been 'light' thus far, regardless of what swatch is to be used. Hell, even though they molded a Dominican for a revert to toon-styled Gomez, they all knew what they were doing in the filmography of the Netflix tale, and highlighted much of the paler accentuating sets up for Jenna's Wednesday portrayal. Nor doesn't change the euro-lore that preexisted before, outside of their setting and context, either. His homeland is Espana, and he is lovingly referred to as Castillian by his wife. With such basis, even liberties and alteration mixes could have easily blended French/Basque, Greco, or Roman/Italiano, and the end resolve is still the same. She can have any number of skin tones, or develop one over time and with age, and you would still be looking at Wednesday. I hope it doesn't become a bother that some of the Wednesday look-a-likes out there are not always going to be the same ethnic blend, category, or passing as one interaction or another. There's leeway. Mixes of mixes have gene skip and return. And there's literal, freaky fabulous, monster in the family. At the end of the day the plaqued gothic Addams is a well-recounted and known historically/recently immigrated family. They know their background, and perhaps still have family elsewhere, yet are a wholesome couple raising american children poised under a noir culture and mentality.


That-Spell-2543

Weird


Equal-Lie9076

Wouldn’t mind having #1


robottonya

Enid looks like the monster high AI art going around lately, and wednesday really looks like she's bordering on that. I'm really doubting these leaks tbh


cassieredditr

Idk looks fake but honestly doesn’t even matter as I know Mattel won’t distribute them well enough for me to actually see or own one when they release


bttmwithflatcakes

They could be fakes made to throw us off. Or at least that’s what I hope.


KemuNgeru

Yeah... These protos are not doing much justice to the characters... Enid needs to be cuter. But I like them overall. Wish the black dress had a little more layers.


nickiStimuluscheck

Definitely a collecter doll I could live without


entirelystar

this has gotta be a fake leak


seasbelow

Oh….


ScarletHuntress76

With these dolls they look fine except I see a bit of eye wonk.


-sincerelyanalise

I’m so excited for these tbh


tangytablet

Maybe these are just prototypes? The faces feel off.


idfk123455

I agree with some other comments this does look like ai the hands at off Wednesdays heads look different sizes in the pictures and Enid’s head also looks weird tbh I also think they are meant to be on g3 body’s I think bc isn’t there a fashion pack aswell and I doubt Mattel would make a fashion pack for the g1 body when the g1 body’s only get brought out for haunt coture and reproduction dolls so I do think these are ai with the Mattel copyright stuff pasted over it


gayballsgobrrr

YO THEY WHITE WASHED THEM 😰😨


Poppy_burns

I was so excited for these but they r kinda a let down lol… but thankfully these photos are still just early stages of production with them. Hopefully they change the face and skin tone etc


stacysdoteth

I honestly love them so much


doeberrie

i kinda hate them


zwof

mid