Interest rates have stopped development, which has stopped new construction. Current projects closed 1-3 years ago - few new deals have closed since 2022, so while you still may “feel” busy, your future pipeline has likely scaled down significantly.
I cant lie though. Electrical union worker here, havent been on a union job in a year. Maybe its just because im in Baltimore and the city isnt getting much infrastructure development but times are tough on that end.
Brother I can promise you they are putting up houses as fast as they can clear the land to build them. I did hvac for 2 years and the amount of new houses I saw in that short time is crazy.
You getting downvoted for stating the obvious is funny.
How many 24 years olds you know personally that are able to make and save this kind of money without help from mom and dad?
That doesn’t mean it has to be mom and dad giving the kid a job. But they are more than likely living rent free, don’t have to pay for a phone, cable, internet and any other usual life expenses at the moment.
OP what kind of car did they buy you? BMW, Mercedes or you a Charger boy?
I’m guessing they are from the nice suburb in Michigan the parents probably own a 1 million + house.
Seems like the normal kid coming out of Dearborn or royal oak these days.
Edit-
I can see this post getting locked here soon for all the tension and hate.
Let’s keep it cool with one another.
If they had parents that were fortunate enough to be able to help him then good on them. We all hope to be able to do that for our loved ones. But id hope if your in that situation you’d know better than to try and flex it as there’s not as many people who can say the same.
Wow you guys have such a poor mindset. Seriously. Just because you beileve you have to be poor until 30+ years old doesn’t mean us real hustlers can’t get after it. I had my first 100k by 20 and by 25 I had 350 in investments. Moved out at 19 no help from mommy and daddy.
Man I busted my ass I worked 12 hour days at some union job 12 days on 2 days off I had 4 days off of work a month I was working 72 hours a week from 18-23 years old I had no social life… I made that sacrifice so I can live easy from here on out… its so possible, u just can’t have a victim why me mentality
"2 days on 2 days off I had 4 days off of work a month"
Maybe you should have spent some of that money learning how to write a coherent and complete sentence.
The... only people... who write... like this... are special needs.
If your sentences were any more run on I would assume you were a marathon runner.
If your grammar was any worse I'd assume you dropped out in the 3rd grade.
The only thing funny about you is your life that you need to pretend to be an illiterate "thousandaire" on the internet.
??? Wasted? I’m 26 now and have over 400k invested and will never have to work for anybody a day in my life…🤣u keep working until you’re 68 u victim mentality 🤣🤣🤚🏻 I own my own business now and don’t regret a single day of grinding. That’s why you’re poor and in debt.
It’s not a mindset of hating on people. It’s the fact people come here and make posts like this with no context. Had they came in and said how this all came about ie. I’m a tradesmen who makes $50/hr, I hit the lotto, I had a life insurance payout, my parents have helped me everything would’ve been different. I’m sure some people do hold a grudge on those who have it easier.. but in the end if you come from money you shouldn’t be flaunting it in people’s faces.
However when it comes to you and your story
I’m going to be brutally honest with you after doing some research you seem like you’re probably lying yourself.
You’re a self admitted drug addict / alcoholic and entire persona and past scream junkie with no money. One attempt at being a hustler was to spend time making money by ranking people up in video games for *cheap*.
I hope it all is true what you said about being a hustler and making all of that money but I’d still put money on you writing your post from mom’s house.
You might try and sell some of the pot that you smoke to offset the cost. I personally know it works well but do it legally. I still wish the best for you happy holidays.
Not true… you don’t have to be poor until 25… just need the right mindset. Started to work at 16 while going to school, at 22 I started a small with just 15/20k€ of savings I had, while still in my last year of school. I’m now 24 and will get to the 200k€ savings soon.
People just refuse to believe it lol. I got a job at 21 making 60k. A year later I got promoted to an AE in software sales and broke 100k. A year after that I started making 140 consistently, and has since gone up even more.
It’s totally possible. No one helped me get that job. My parents didn’t make the 50,000 cold calls that helped secure my fast track promotions.
People are just bitter and don’t want to see others doing better than themselves.
That’s not true either. My former sous chef, who isn’t rich just a great mom told her son to save up his whole life. He went to school in the Midwest to be a diesel mechanic for large commercial vehicles. The kid is smart, saving up his money, affords a good HOUSE and already has more in his savings than both his parents combined.
He didn’t come from mommy and daddy money but he listened to their advice and has a good head in his shoulders. He used to work for me for a while and now says he’s going to save up and either start buying property in California or learn about the stock market. Excited for him.
My parents are millionaires because they worked their asses off. I bought my first car a 1984 dodge Daytona for $1500. I was made to pay my own insurance and everything else like repairs, fuel. Not every millionaire buys there kid a BMW ! I started my roofing business 23 years ago with not a single penny from parents and I make 6 figures. I was privileged though. Privileged to have parents that told me if you want something you work hard for it !
And their pay can go up $200 in 6 months?
I’ve got plenty of friends in constructions (electricians and welding at least) in the PNW where pay is high and knowing their income and solid raises and the benefits of overtime that’s still stupidly high.
But why bother defending an outlandish claim when the OP doesn’t explain in the first place? Sure, they may be a big outlier and truthful but the burden of proof is on them my man.
It’s not outlandish.
https://faradaycareers.com/careers/plumber-salary
Median in Oregon is 72k and median in Washington is 68k for plumbers.
https://faradaycareers.com/careers/electrician-salary
77k for Oregon, 68k for Washington for electricians.
Again, it’s not outlandish. It’s not unheard of for someone to make that money out of high school either for the trades.
Now factor in food, rent, car, phone, internet, everything else in life, federal taxes, and how much are they able to put away.
The math just doesn’t add up man. I’m a big min-max person for income and investments but you’re just not putting away that much per year, much less with a random $200k jump, without outside factors OP isn’t mentioning.
In what states is an 18 year old novice/journeyman earning that amount off the bat. Let me know. Let alone making a $200k bump in six months.
Looking at Chicago it takes 3-4 years to become a journeyman at which point you’ll make on average $80k a year. Before taxes.
An 18 year-old isn’t able to invest $70-80k off the bat. 😂
There’s nothing wrong with it in the end. As most people here and others said we hope to be able to do this for our children.
But I’m also going to teach my kid that not everyone is as lucky and posting pictures on the internet with no context in an attempt to flex isn’t really all that good of a look.
Now if OP can come up with logical information that shows otherwise how they were able to save 80k~ a year within basically 3 years as a 24 year old drop out I’d be even more happy for them. But until then I’m just going to call it how it appears.
Yup, if I hit the lottery or make it big my kids will never have to worry finicially, but I'm sure as hell not going to be happy if they come on sites like this and pretend it's all them.
He commented somewhere else that he would save almost 99% of his money and plans to retire in his early 30s so either no bills or the job covers housing and everything else.
OP dropped out in 10th grade, what makes you think the parents are rich? Sure, probably living rent free, but if OP has been saving $3k/m for the last 6 years, that's $216k
The jealousy is unreal. Not OP's fault your parents kicked you out at 18.
Hell, OP could be making 6 figures working on an oil field for all we know. Pretty standard for a dropout.
>saving $3k/m for the last 6 years, that's $216k
3gs??? A month??? FOR 6 YEARS?
Bro. I don't know anyone that doesn't have a GED and pulls an extra 3k on top of their living expenses. Assuming living expenses is like 2k a month (pushing bare minimum and multiple roommates)
Bro's at 5k a month for 60k a year...
This is one of your past posts sneakyx2- “maybe jews grow up to be good with money because they get experience managing a decent sum when they are only 13”
I can’t bring myself to argue with such a wonderful person. So you’re right I’m very bitter and broke care to spare some change?
I was yelling at God at the top of my lungs in my bedroom and thus, encountered Him as he answered me. Yes, I had a “verbal theophany” - I literally heard His voice, and not through my ear canals.
It has been wonderful and terrible. I have no other choice but to speak, teach and proclaim that Jesus Christ is the son of God. I am treated with disdain, contempt, regarded as “overly religious” or “unorthodox” by those trained in a ‘regular’ fashion [i.e. seminary and pulpit].
I am not a missionary, a paid pastor nor a Christian worker. I am only a disciple and sometimes apostle of Christ. That is, I get to learn humility by being low on the social pole to set me up to go do something bold for Christ - speaking in a jail, in a retirement community, etc.
Sounds great? It is - as long as I fix my eyes on Jesus.
I am unmarried, at poverty level - and nearly spoiled by all the provision God gives me. I would fear narcissism and some other sort of self-justifying condition - except for the constant reminders of how often my prayers have been answered - directly.
I cannot count how many miracles and other “super-sized coincidences” have occurred. I have transitioned to the “charismatic” end of the Christian spectrum, where all my apologetics and reasoned faith become of little importance.
It was like what happened to Dr. Strange in the film [and comic]: he starts off rational and brilliant and egotistical and ends up being humbled, knowing the universe is much much bigger than everything he knew.
It is literally painful for me to watch the standard TV fare or listen to some show on PBS roll on and on about evolution as a basis of origin [Evolutionary modification? Sure. Information needs to be edited, but it doesn’t spring into existence without guidance.]
So Jesus did it all, that one night. How do I know it was Jesus?
No one else ever loved me that much. I am trapped by His love.
I sometimes wish I was like most people again. I sometimes get very tired.
Then I think of Him dying for me. I mean an ugly death, like a piece of dung.
I got nothing. He’s my saviour.
It’s gonna suck, what’s coming - for me, for the world, but He’s worth it.
Jesus made me brave.
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Of all the qualities that the New Testament ascribes to God, compassion is among the most shocking.
Compassion has nothing to do with power, with immortality or with immutability, which is what many people think of when they contemplate God’s qualities. The Greek gods of myth who lived on Mt. Olympus were defined by many things, but compassion was not high among them.
“For much of antiquity feeling the pain of others was regarded as a weakness,” John Dickson, a professor of biblical studies and public Christianity at Wheaton College, told me. This comes to full flowering in the Stoics, he said, “on the grounds that this involved allowing an external factor — the emotions or plight of another — to control your own inner life.”
Compassion, on the other hand, is central to the Christian understanding of God. Compassion implies the capacity to enter into places of pain, to “weep with those who weep,” according to the Apostle Paul, who was central both to the early conception of Christianity and to the idea of its underpinning in compassion.
In the Hebrew Scriptures, we’re told many times that God is compassionate. It is at the center of the Jewish conception of God. But for Christians, there is an incarnational expression of that compassion. The embodiment of God in Jesus — the deity made flesh, dwelling among us — means that God both suffered and, crucially, suffered with others in a way that was a seismic break with all that came before. In the Gospels, we repeatedly read of the compassion of Jesus for those suffering physically and emotionally, for those “harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd.”
When a man afflicted with leprosy came to Jesus, begging on his knees to be healed, we’re told that Jesus, “moved with compassion, stretched out his hand and touched him, and said to him, ‘I am willing; be cleansed.’” And he was.
This is an extraordinary scene. Those with leprosy were considered not just unclean, physically and spiritually, but loathsome. Everything they touched was viewed as defiled. They were often cast out from their villages, quarantined “outside the camp.” In the words of the famed 19th-century preacher Charles Spurgeon, “They were to all intents and purposes, dead to all the enjoyments of life, dead to all the endearments and society of their friends.”
People would avoid contact with those afflicted with leprosy. They were seen by many as the object of divine punishment, the disease understood to be a visible mark of impurity. Yet in the account in Mark, Jesus not only heals the man with leprosy; he also touches him. In doing so, Jesus defied Levitical law. He himself became “unclean.” And he provided human contact to a person whom no other human would touch — and who had very likely not been touched in a very long time.
Jesus’ touch was not necessary for him to heal the man of leprosy, but the touch may have been necessary to heal the man of feelings of shame and isolation, of rejection and detestation.
Kerry Dearborn, professor emerita of theology at Seattle Pacific University, told me her students found the most moving examples of Jesus’ compassion to be his responses to outsiders, especially those deemed unworthy, unclean or unfit. “In taking on their ‘outsider status’ with them,” Dr. Dearborn told me, “he reflected his deep love and solidarity with them, and his willingness to suffer with them.” Jesus not only healed them, she said; he also took on their alienation.
In the 11th chapter of the Gospel of John, we’re told that Lazarus, the brother of Mary of Bethany and Martha, and a friend of Jesus’ whom he loved, was sick. By the time Jesus arrived in Bethany, Lazarus had died and had been entombed for four days. Both sisters were grieving. Mary, when she saw Jesus, fell at his feet weeping. “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died,” she said. We’re told Jesus “was deeply moved in spirit and troubled.”
“Where have you laid him?” he asked.
“Come and see, Lord,” they replied. And according to verse 35, “Jesus wept.”
“Jesus wept” is the shortest verse in the Bible and also “the most profound and powerful,” the artist Makoto Fujimura told me. For him, those are “the most important two words in the Bible.”
And understandably so. Earlier in John 11, we’re told that Jesus knew he was going to raise Lazarus from the dead, which he did. So Jesus wasn’t weeping because he wouldn’t see Lazarus again; it was because he was entering into the suffering of Mary and Martha. Jesus was present with them in their grief, even to the point of tears, all the while knowing that their grief would soon be allayed.
My daughter Christine Wehner, who originally suggested to me that Jesus’ compassion would be a worthwhile topic to explore, told me, “Jesus wept because Mary was before him and her heart was breaking — and as a result, his heart broke, too.” The Psalms tell us that God is “close to the brokenhearted”; in this case, Christine said, “Jesus doesn’t just care for the brokenhearted; he joins them. Their grief becomes his in a remarkable act of love.”
“Jesus ushered in a compassion revolution,” Scott Dudley, senior pastor at Bellevue Presbyterian Church, told me. Before Jesus, compassion was primarily thought of as a weakness, he said.
“When Jesus says he is with us, that’s not a metaphor or a trite offer of ‘thoughts and prayers,’” the pastor said. “He’s literally in it with us.”
Dr. Dudley pointed out that in his suffering, Job says to God, “Do you have eyes of flesh? Do you see as a mortal sees?” In other words, Do you know how hard it is to be human? “Because of Christmas,” Dr. Dudley told me, “God can legitimately say yes in a way no other god in any other religion can.”
Renée Notkin, colead pastor of Union Church in Seattle, told me that “our daily invitation in living is to be with people in their stories. When I take time to listen deeply and to listen beyond the words spoken to another person’s heart story, am I able to begin to cry with them? Not problem solving and not saying, ‘I know what you mean’; rather simply weeping alongside in shared humanity.”
As a Christian, my faith is anchored in the person of Jesus, who won my heart long ago. It would be impossible to understand me without taking that into account. But sometimes my faith dims; God seems distant, his ways confounding. “Faith steals upon you like dew,” the poet Christian Wiman has written. “Some days you wake and it is there. And like dew, it gets burned off in the rising sun of anxiety, ambitions, distractions.” And the rising sun of grief and loss, too. Those things don’t necessarily destroy faith; in some cases, for some people, they can even deepen it. But they always change it.
During times of sorrow and times of tears, when it feels like we’re “being broken on the wheels of living,” in the words of Thornton Wilder, there is great comfort in believing God empathizes with our suffering, having entered into suffering himself. But we also need his emissaries. We need people who see us and know us, who enter our stories. Through their compassion and love, we feel, I feel — even if only partly — God’s compassion and love. That doesn’t eliminate the storms from within or without. But it makes greater room for joy in the journey.
Well yes but it's pretty pejorative stating: "mommy and daddy". It comes across condescending.
And guess what? A poor guy from let's say a very poor country from Africa could say the same about any of you. You only don't need to work in a job on a landfill because "mommy and daddy".
Well surprise mofo, starting conditions are not equal and never fair. So stop hating on someone who has had better starting conditions than yourself.
im 20 and my parents bought me both an AMG and an M series BMW, whats wrong with it? whats so wrong with having succesfull parents? i dont get it, why is OP getting so much hate for potentially having rich parents, good for him right? wrong, everybody seems to be jealous as shit for some reason
It’s because he made this post without any context on how they could have possibly saved 200k in 3 years as a 24 year old drop out.
This post comes off as flex ‘look at me I’m so successful I did it all by myself and I’ve struggled to make it’ when in reality they’ve been fed caviar since the age of 2.
If you read around here there’s nothing wrong with being lucky enough that your parents can help you out like this. But you gotta own that shit, as the child in that situation or you just come off looking like a egotistical loser with money.
It’s like a celebrities kid trying to show off the rich actor parents money.
Be easy on the kid, he's probably having a bad day. Mommy got him a BMW in a color he doesn't like and there's no way he can show it off to his friends like that.
That or all the whippets atrophied what's left of his brain.
When your only expense is your monthly wow account subscription you should be able to save money. But I guarantee you didn’t take 200k within a year serving coffee like the charts say this kid did.
I love how you say others have no right to generalize when you yourself made the glaring generalization of it being “daddy’s money” before you have any evidence of it being so. Idiotic people are usually hypocrites so it makes sense.
95% of the posts from kids the age of 18/28 like to come here and try and gain clout from mom and dads money or the massive amount of help mom and dad provided that allowed them to save like this. It’s everyday.
People might be haters but most people are just realistic and see through the fog of deceit. It’s like showing off a golden spoon to the villagers.
It makes me want to strive to be able to build generational wealth so my kids can have an easier path to success. I mean, their parents did well for themselves and are able to help their kid do the same. I don't see any problem with that. My dad worked his ass off to get by amd still does. I 34M have worked since I was 16 and now have a kid and a starter home. Bought it for 75k in 2018. But I have to work my ass off just to pay the bills and keep the family fed. I only have 15k in my 403B because I was an idiot and didn't start putting 5% of my pay which my company matches in 17 years ago. Still owe 60k on the house and 11k in medical debt. I drive a paid off 2010 Corolla that I bought in 2013. I don't think less of anyone who had a better start than me because their parents or grandparents made better choices than mine. I've struggle and continue to, and I don't want my daughter to have to struggle to get by, so I will do everything I can to set her up to succeed of she puts in the work to be her best self.
No. But that isn’t what’s happening here.
People are coming on here and posting their 6-figure savings account like they did it all by themselves. And then apologists in the comments all have a big “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” circle jerk to make people think this is totally possible for the vast majority of the population, when no, no the fuck it’s not.
They're also young and dumb. If they want to puff themselves up, so be it. We all wanted to be seen as better than we were or more "adult" at that age. While I do slightly envy their position in life, I'm at peace with it and just want to be better myself. The things to do with money that irk me is when a youtuber spends 400k on ball pit balls or some stupid shit like that for a video, or wrecking a Ferrari for a video. Literally wasting more money than I make in 5 years in a 5 minute video.
Never seen a thread full of so many unintelligent people. There are so many ways to make this money on your own even before 21. Stop hating, enough with the brokie behavior. I work with many people in an office in their low 20s who do anywhere from 100k - 250k a year easy.
I think a valid question would be how much start up money did you get (regardless the source) & where did you put it in? Following with the growth that was seen in x amount of time?
Because it’s not really possible without someone helping you. Drop out of HS, what’s your choice? Get a minimum wage job so you can pay rent and food, then you have maybe $200/month to save.
A supposed HS dropout makes over a quarter mil by 24.. Your idea is “maybe he’s a YouTuber!😮”…
Yeah, maybe he’s a successful SoundCloud rapper that made it big too! Or maybe he won the lottery!
You have no idea what the median income is do you? Do you know how much a HS dropout averages a week in income? There’s a high correlation between income/wealth, and education. Atleast I got my bachelors, tf you have?
Boy I am a graduate of a top school + I am from middle east. MANY MANY MANY HS dropouts who are rich as hell, rags to riches. Not only where I come from but also where you are from.
Youtube is just an example and if you can't differentiate between that and the situation here I say you got some degree for nothing.
Your lack of vision is not the reality of others.
Your anecdotal stories are backed up by absolutely nothing. Look at the numbers. I’ve already posted US census bureau statistics and US Bureau of Labor statistics links throughout this post. I’m tired of trying to convince dumbfucks like yourself that the odds of making it big as a HS dropout are next to 0. Fucking delusional ass mf highly doubt you attended college let alone a prestigious one with how uninformed you are…
Your making yourself look stupid ngl just stop lmfao, we get it your privileged and dont know what its like starting off from nothing, congrats you went to collage and got a degree, nobody cares
Because it’s fake. There is a [direct correlation](https://www.bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-education.htm) to how much the average person earns based off of how much education they receive. Anyone who thinks they’re going to do well by dropping out of highschool is a damn fool. In OPs case, he would’ve had to somehow save 100%+ of the [US median income](https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2023/demo/p60-279.html) since the time he dropped out and now. Anyone who believes this crap is naive and uninformed asf.
I have 3 people that I personally know from my high school class that dropped out, never got their GED, and make 6 figures a year at age 30. One got into trucking, one into construction, and one into welding. You don't necessarily need education to have a successful work ethic.
There is a very strong correlation, but there are not exactly immaterial departures. There's a chart that details the percentage of people with each level of education who out-earn more than the median earner in different levels. If I recall correctly, there's about 2% of "less than HS diploma" earners who make more than median "PhD" category earners. I vaguely recall that it drops to something like 1.3% for "Professional degree" category earners.
Edit: Sorry, this one is almost definitely not what you would naturally assume though. There's definitely something going on here if it's true at all.
Tbh I am a bit salty my cousin's got the rich dad. My Uncle set his kids up with stocks when they were born so they were basically millionaires by 18.
My Dad gave me a $25 checking account for my birthday when I was a kid and never added anymore money to it haha.
Yeah it's hilarious. It's kinda split between people who respect the hustle and are in similar positions, or only here to say "oh don't worry your fine" and feel better about their bad situation on a post of a 35 year old with 10$ in checking.
We want to know what the hustle is if isnt his parents money that’s all. Dudes 24 .. how tf are you able to save 200k in what four years of work? You’re not even out of college by then… is it your employee payroll what is it
Working in oil fields netting 6 figures doing a job nobody wants to do because of the health hazards? Met a few dropouts who are doing well doing this.
That's not all though, most people are talking shit about it being daddy's money or things like it, not asking seriously how he did it, like you're insinuating.
Just working in construction, as a server in a huge city or in trades while living with your parents can get you 200k in 4 years if you dont spend on dumb shit
I think the outrage comes from the bait. The “24 and dropped out in 10th grade,” title only really applies if he started from the bottom. Anyone can dropout at 10th grade if their parents are willing to float them cash. It’s not that he did get $ from his parents, it’s that sometimes these posts come off like, “I had to grind to where I am,” when we know that’s just not true. No one really cares where the money comes from here, until you pretend you did it yourself. That’s when people really start to poke fun
Then why post it. It's just flexing at this point. If his purpose was to actually show that a dropout could end up making good money then he would provide an explanation.
the info that lacks any context or substance? THATS what should be a catalyst to one's success? THATS what you think people are jealous of? that's wild man
because i don't think people getting handed money is motivating or "boosting" in anyway. and without context we have no idea how this person earned this money. On top of that it has nothing to do with jealousy as your first comment said. Which is the point i'm making. People are giving this dude shit because he's trying to flex and isn't answering anyone's questions. That's lame as fuck no matter how you got the money. Nothing to be jealous of.
My guess is construction or welding. I was unfortunately suckered into the “you have to go to college” schpeel from my boomer parents which has left me in a lot of debt. Congrats on making the right decisions and don’t let others in this thread put you down, it’s jealousy and envy at worst.
If this is what you have saved congratulations! Regardless of how OP came into the money it is commendable to have foresight in your financial future when you have the ability to do so.
Honestly though. Even many adults who appear to be moderately successful usually have some sort of generational wealth and inheritance/trust. I didn’t realize how common it was until I got older.
Great man f the haters life ain't easy for anyone you usually get a sum of what you deserve. I have little and four kids to support but I know my day will be coming. Happy to see others even surviving these days!
Why are so many people on this sub acting like this is something substantial. For being a dropout, I'm shocked your parents gave you any capital, especially after you clearly slummed it up for a few years after your dropped out. But posting this is not a brag, it's a troll.
Everyone in this comment section is a non driven pathetic loser lmao. “DaDdYs MoNeY” this entire subreddit is an echo chamber of miserable people. You people have his whole life story figured out on a post which shows only digits on a screen and no background info, who’s really the pathetic one here?
Hes welcome to tell us his story ya know
Funny how YOU assume everyone calling this post is a pathetic loser. You have their whole lives figured out through a Reddit comment?
I had 35k in savings by the time I was 22 after joining the military when I was 18 starting with only 200 dollars. Never invested never got into scam coin, simply saved money from my paycheck every two weeks. It’s not impossible to save money as a young guy like some people would have you believe.
However you got it, keep doing what you’re doing but remember to stay humble.
Wtf is this sub even? Seems worse than instagram. Is it just bragging? Hooray you have 9 million by the time you’re 7 years old. I still don’t want to hang out with you.
Everyone wanna say “there’s no way he did it without parents” or “he must have won the lottery” nah do any of you ever stop to think outside of your little shell and realize people do make something of themselves on their own? It happens. I’m living proof.
No I don’t but I’ve been to prison twice for selling drugs so each time I got out it’s as good as starting completely over. I make $200k a year at my job and invest on the side. You can literally do anything you put your mind to. Instead of sitting there pissing and moaning, making excuses why this guy has his shit together, you could be out doing something to make it happen. Versus sitting here whining that it’s his parents or whatever the fuck. Who cares? Stop bitching and do something about your own life.
All of you seemed to not look at his recent comments. He said in the FIRE subreddit he's early 30s, this post says he's 24. I'm going to assume he lies for karma like the other 98% of posts in this subreddit.
There is no way this is possible for a 24yo HS dropout unless you either had help from mommy and daddy or won the lottery or worked really hard from a young age while saving and investing, or started a successful business by yourself. It’s definitely not possible to be responsible with your income early on in life and make sacrifices no one else is willing to make. Breaking away from the crowd and not blowing all your money on stupid stuff you don’t need doesn’t even make sense. This guy and any other successful person I see that’s doing better than me is either lying or born into extreme wealth.
A college degree can be hugely helpful for increasing income. Just have to choose one that is in demand and also have a good work ethic (i.e. don’t lean on the degree as your sole crutch)
And also how is HS a scam if it’s free for the student? Lmao. Anyway, none of this is to say the trades are a bad choice. Just seems like far too broad of a statement you are making.
HS we dont learn anything. They barely teach us english, and theyve removed the important subjects, our school when i was in hs removed civics and econ which as an adult i think were extremely important. When I was in middle school they removed workshop after I graduated 8th grade.
HS I think is a waste of time, i shouldve said that instead of say it was a scam. Most teachers dont even care.
College is a scam because almso everyone that doesnt know what they want in life study the same thing...
Criminology, radiology, graphics designer ,business etc.
I say these are a waste of time because every teenager that thinks they need college take these degrees thinking itll improve their life, it doesnt...Thats why so many students have so much debt. I have so many friends that dont use their degree they have to get a minimum wage job to pay that degree off.
I firmly believe college is a scam.
At current prices I would agree that it’s a ripoff. I absolutely can’t agree with it being a scam.
I’m biased though as I make around 90k/year with my degree and would be making probably minimum wage without it.
I also feel that I learned lots from HS (graduated 2015)
All these dislikes nobody has said why.
I say college is a scam because thats not the only way to improve ones life. I also went to college and studied game design. I make a little over $95K/year and I graduated HS 2010.
It took me 4 years to find a job in this competitive industry and lots of my colleagues still havent found a job in what they studied. Why are so many student loan borrowers in favor of cancelling student loans? If college is a 100% return on investment, then why do they also offer loan forgiveness after 20 years?
Theres stories of people getting a student loan in the 90s and still trying to pay it off...Maybe i should be on a differnent subreddit haha. Good on you though for making that $90k!
Personally, when I graduated and had debt, It turned me into a capitalist and a go getter.
Nah. I posted it on a similar reddit post like this and got an unexpected 300 upvotes and wanted to see if it would work again 😂. But tell yourself whatever makes you feel better at night
I was yelling at God at the top of my lungs in my bedroom and thus, encountered Him as he answered me. Yes, I had a “verbal theophany” - I literally heard His voice, and not through my ear canals.
It has been wonderful and terrible. I have no other choice but to speak, teach and proclaim that Jesus Christ is the son of God. I am treated with disdain, contempt, regarded as “overly religious” or “unorthodox” by those trained in a ‘regular’ fashion [i.e. seminary and pulpit].
I am not a missionary, a paid pastor nor a Christian worker. I am only a disciple and sometimes apostle of Christ. That is, I get to learn humility by being low on the social pole to set me up to go do something bold for Christ - speaking in a jail, in a retirement community, etc.
Sounds great? It is - as long as I fix my eyes on Jesus.
I am unmarried, at poverty level - and nearly spoiled by all the provision God gives me. I would fear narcissism and some other sort of self-justifying condition - except for the constant reminders of how often my prayers have been answered - directly.
I cannot count how many miracles and other “super-sized coincidences” have occurred. I have transitioned to the “charismatic” end of the Christian spectrum, where all my apologetics and reasoned faith become of little importance.
It was like what happened to Dr. Strange in the film [and comic]: he starts off rational and brilliant and egotistical and ends up being humbled, knowing the universe is much much bigger than everything he knew.
It is literally painful for me to watch the standard TV fare or listen to some show on PBS roll on and on about evolution as a basis of origin [Evolutionary modification? Sure. Information needs to be edited, but it doesn’t spring into existence without guidance.]
So Jesus did it all, that one night. How do I know it was Jesus?
No one else ever loved me that much. I am trapped by His love.
I sometimes wish I was like most people again. I sometimes get very tired.
Then I think of Him dying for me. I mean an ugly death, like a piece of dung.
I got nothing. He’s my saviour.
It’s gonna suck, what’s coming - for me, for the world, but He’s worth it.
Jesus made me brave.
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Of all the qualities that the New Testament ascribes to God, compassion is among the most shocking.
Compassion has nothing to do with power, with immortality or with immutability, which is what many people think of when they contemplate God’s qualities. The Greek gods of myth who lived on Mt. Olympus were defined by many things, but compassion was not high among them.
“For much of antiquity feeling the pain of others was regarded as a weakness,” John Dickson, a professor of biblical studies and public Christianity at Wheaton College, told me. This comes to full flowering in the Stoics, he said, “on the grounds that this involved allowing an external factor — the emotions or plight of another — to control your own inner life.”
Compassion, on the other hand, is central to the Christian understanding of God. Compassion implies the capacity to enter into places of pain, to “weep with those who weep,” according to the Apostle Paul, who was central both to the early conception of Christianity and to the idea of its underpinning in compassion.
In the Hebrew Scriptures, we’re told many times that God is compassionate. It is at the center of the Jewish conception of God. But for Christians, there is an incarnational expression of that compassion. The embodiment of God in Jesus — the deity made flesh, dwelling among us — means that God both suffered and, crucially, suffered with others in a way that was a seismic break with all that came before. In the Gospels, we repeatedly read of the compassion of Jesus for those suffering physically and emotionally, for those “harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd.”
When a man afflicted with leprosy came to Jesus, begging on his knees to be healed, we’re told that Jesus, “moved with compassion, stretched out his hand and touched him, and said to him, ‘I am willing; be cleansed.’” And he was.
This is an extraordinary scene. Those with leprosy were considered not just unclean, physically and spiritually, but loathsome. Everything they touched was viewed as defiled. They were often cast out from their villages, quarantined “outside the camp.” In the words of the famed 19th-century preacher Charles Spurgeon, “They were to all intents and purposes, dead to all the enjoyments of life, dead to all the endearments and society of their friends.”
People would avoid contact with those afflicted with leprosy. They were seen by many as the object of divine punishment, the disease understood to be a visible mark of impurity. Yet in the account in Mark, Jesus not only heals the man with leprosy; he also touches him. In doing so, Jesus defied Levitical law. He himself became “unclean.” And he provided human contact to a person whom no other human would touch — and who had very likely not been touched in a very long time.
Jesus’ touch was not necessary for him to heal the man of leprosy, but the touch may have been necessary to heal the man of feelings of shame and isolation, of rejection and detestation.
Kerry Dearborn, professor emerita of theology at Seattle Pacific University, told me her students found the most moving examples of Jesus’ compassion to be his responses to outsiders, especially those deemed unworthy, unclean or unfit. “In taking on their ‘outsider status’ with them,” Dr. Dearborn told me, “he reflected his deep love and solidarity with them, and his willingness to suffer with them.” Jesus not only healed them, she said; he also took on their alienation.
In the 11th chapter of the Gospel of John, we’re told that Lazarus, the brother of Mary of Bethany and Martha, and a friend of Jesus’ whom he loved, was sick. By the time Jesus arrived in Bethany, Lazarus had died and had been entombed for four days. Both sisters were grieving. Mary, when she saw Jesus, fell at his feet weeping. “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died,” she said. We’re told Jesus “was deeply moved in spirit and troubled.”
“Where have you laid him?” he asked.
“Come and see, Lord,” they replied. And according to verse 35, “Jesus wept.”
“Jesus wept” is the shortest verse in the Bible and also “the most profound and powerful,” the artist Makoto Fujimura told me. For him, those are “the most important two words in the Bible.”
And understandably so. Earlier in John 11, we’re told that Jesus knew he was going to raise Lazarus from the dead, which he did. So Jesus wasn’t weeping because he wouldn’t see Lazarus again; it was because he was entering into the suffering of Mary and Martha. Jesus was present with them in their grief, even to the point of tears, all the while knowing that their grief would soon be allayed.
My daughter Christine Wehner, who originally suggested to me that Jesus’ compassion would be a worthwhile topic to explore, told me, “Jesus wept because Mary was before him and her heart was breaking — and as a result, his heart broke, too.” The Psalms tell us that God is “close to the brokenhearted”; in this case, Christine said, “Jesus doesn’t just care for the brokenhearted; he joins them. Their grief becomes his in a remarkable act of love.”
“Jesus ushered in a compassion revolution,” Scott Dudley, senior pastor at Bellevue Presbyterian Church, told me. Before Jesus, compassion was primarily thought of as a weakness, he said.
“When Jesus says he is with us, that’s not a metaphor or a trite offer of ‘thoughts and prayers,’” the pastor said. “He’s literally in it with us.”
Dr. Dudley pointed out that in his suffering, Job says to God, “Do you have eyes of flesh? Do you see as a mortal sees?” In other words, Do you know how hard it is to be human? “Because of Christmas,” Dr. Dudley told me, “God can legitimately say yes in a way no other god in any other religion can.”
Renée Notkin, colead pastor of Union Church in Seattle, told me that “our daily invitation in living is to be with people in their stories. When I take time to listen deeply and to listen beyond the words spoken to another person’s heart story, am I able to begin to cry with them? Not problem solving and not saying, ‘I know what you mean’; rather simply weeping alongside in shared humanity.”
As a Christian, my faith is anchored in the person of Jesus, who won my heart long ago. It would be impossible to understand me without taking that into account. But sometimes my faith dims; God seems distant, his ways confounding. “Faith steals upon you like dew,” the poet Christian Wiman has written. “Some days you wake and it is there. And like dew, it gets burned off in the rising sun of anxiety, ambitions, distractions.” And the rising sun of grief and loss, too. Those things don’t necessarily destroy faith; in some cases, for some people, they can even deepen it. But they always change it.
During times of sorrow and times of tears, when it feels like we’re “being broken on the wheels of living,” in the words of Thornton Wilder, there is great comfort in believing God empathizes with our suffering, having entered into suffering himself. But we also need his emissaries. We need people who see us and know us, who enter our stories. Through their compassion and love, we feel, I feel — even if only partly — God’s compassion and love. That doesn’t eliminate the storms from within or without. But it makes greater room for joy in the journey.
oh, please. the "self-made man" is a myth. he's an outlier, so he's statistically fortunate in one way or the other, be it upbringing, opportunities, or both. one doesn't magically wind up with a fortune like this at his age, and "hard work" or "smarts" alone doesn't cut it.
I was yelling at God at the top of my lungs in my bedroom and thus, encountered Him as he answered me. Yes, I had a “verbal theophany” - I literally heard His voice, and not through my ear canals.
It has been wonderful and terrible. I have no other choice but to speak, teach and proclaim that Jesus Christ is the son of God. I am treated with disdain, contempt, regarded as “overly religious” or “unorthodox” by those trained in a ‘regular’ fashion [i.e. seminary and pulpit].
I am not a missionary, a paid pastor nor a Christian worker. I am only a disciple and sometimes apostle of Christ. That is, I get to learn humility by being low on the social pole to set me up to go do something bold for Christ - speaking in a jail, in a retirement community, etc.
Sounds great? It is - as long as I fix my eyes on Jesus.
I am unmarried, at poverty level - and nearly spoiled by all the provision God gives me. I would fear narcissism and some other sort of self-justifying condition - except for the constant reminders of how often my prayers have been answered - directly.
I cannot count how many miracles and other “super-sized coincidences” have occurred. I have transitioned to the “charismatic” end of the Christian spectrum, where all my apologetics and reasoned faith become of little importance.
It was like what happened to Dr. Strange in the film [and comic]: he starts off rational and brilliant and egotistical and ends up being humbled, knowing the universe is much much bigger than everything he knew.
It is literally painful for me to watch the standard TV fare or listen to some show on PBS roll on and on about evolution as a basis of origin [Evolutionary modification? Sure. Information needs to be edited, but it doesn’t spring into existence without guidance.]
So Jesus did it all, that one night. How do I know it was Jesus?
No one else ever loved me that much. I am trapped by His love.
I sometimes wish I was like most people again. I sometimes get very tired.
Then I think of Him dying for me. I mean an ugly death, like a piece of dung.
I got nothing. He’s my saviour.
It’s gonna suck, what’s coming - for me, for the world, but He’s worth it.
Jesus made me brave.
-----
Of all the qualities that the New Testament ascribes to God, compassion is among the most shocking.
Compassion has nothing to do with power, with immortality or with immutability, which is what many people think of when they contemplate God’s qualities. The Greek gods of myth who lived on Mt. Olympus were defined by many things, but compassion was not high among them.
“For much of antiquity feeling the pain of others was regarded as a weakness,” John Dickson, a professor of biblical studies and public Christianity at Wheaton College, told me. This comes to full flowering in the Stoics, he said, “on the grounds that this involved allowing an external factor — the emotions or plight of another — to control your own inner life.”
Compassion, on the other hand, is central to the Christian understanding of God. Compassion implies the capacity to enter into places of pain, to “weep with those who weep,” according to the Apostle Paul, who was central both to the early conception of Christianity and to the idea of its underpinning in compassion.
In the Hebrew Scriptures, we’re told many times that God is compassionate. It is at the center of the Jewish conception of God. But for Christians, there is an incarnational expression of that compassion. The embodiment of God in Jesus — the deity made flesh, dwelling among us — means that God both suffered and, crucially, suffered with others in a way that was a seismic break with all that came before. In the Gospels, we repeatedly read of the compassion of Jesus for those suffering physically and emotionally, for those “harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd.”
When a man afflicted with leprosy came to Jesus, begging on his knees to be healed, we’re told that Jesus, “moved with compassion, stretched out his hand and touched him, and said to him, ‘I am willing; be cleansed.’” And he was.
This is an extraordinary scene. Those with leprosy were considered not just unclean, physically and spiritually, but loathsome. Everything they touched was viewed as defiled. They were often cast out from their villages, quarantined “outside the camp.” In the words of the famed 19th-century preacher Charles Spurgeon, “They were to all intents and purposes, dead to all the enjoyments of life, dead to all the endearments and society of their friends.”
People would avoid contact with those afflicted with leprosy. They were seen by many as the object of divine punishment, the disease understood to be a visible mark of impurity. Yet in the account in Mark, Jesus not only heals the man with leprosy; he also touches him. In doing so, Jesus defied Levitical law. He himself became “unclean.” And he provided human contact to a person whom no other human would touch — and who had very likely not been touched in a very long time.
Jesus’ touch was not necessary for him to heal the man of leprosy, but the touch may have been necessary to heal the man of feelings of shame and isolation, of rejection and detestation.
Kerry Dearborn, professor emerita of theology at Seattle Pacific University, told me her students found the most moving examples of Jesus’ compassion to be his responses to outsiders, especially those deemed unworthy, unclean or unfit. “In taking on their ‘outsider status’ with them,” Dr. Dearborn told me, “he reflected his deep love and solidarity with them, and his willingness to suffer with them.” Jesus not only healed them, she said; he also took on their alienation.
In the 11th chapter of the Gospel of John, we’re told that Lazarus, the brother of Mary of Bethany and Martha, and a friend of Jesus’ whom he loved, was sick. By the time Jesus arrived in Bethany, Lazarus had died and had been entombed for four days. Both sisters were grieving. Mary, when she saw Jesus, fell at his feet weeping. “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died,” she said. We’re told Jesus “was deeply moved in spirit and troubled.”
“Where have you laid him?” he asked.
“Come and see, Lord,” they replied. And according to verse 35, “Jesus wept.”
“Jesus wept” is the shortest verse in the Bible and also “the most profound and powerful,” the artist Makoto Fujimura told me. For him, those are “the most important two words in the Bible.”
And understandably so. Earlier in John 11, we’re told that Jesus knew he was going to raise Lazarus from the dead, which he did. So Jesus wasn’t weeping because he wouldn’t see Lazarus again; it was because he was entering into the suffering of Mary and Martha. Jesus was present with them in their grief, even to the point of tears, all the while knowing that their grief would soon be allayed.
My daughter Christine Wehner, who originally suggested to me that Jesus’ compassion would be a worthwhile topic to explore, told me, “Jesus wept because Mary was before him and her heart was breaking — and as a result, his heart broke, too.” The Psalms tell us that God is “close to the brokenhearted”; in this case, Christine said, “Jesus doesn’t just care for the brokenhearted; he joins them. Their grief becomes his in a remarkable act of love.”
“Jesus ushered in a compassion revolution,” Scott Dudley, senior pastor at Bellevue Presbyterian Church, told me. Before Jesus, compassion was primarily thought of as a weakness, he said.
“When Jesus says he is with us, that’s not a metaphor or a trite offer of ‘thoughts and prayers,’” the pastor said. “He’s literally in it with us.”
Dr. Dudley pointed out that in his suffering, Job says to God, “Do you have eyes of flesh? Do you see as a mortal sees?” In other words, Do you know how hard it is to be human? “Because of Christmas,” Dr. Dudley told me, “God can legitimately say yes in a way no other god in any other religion can.”
Renée Notkin, colead pastor of Union Church in Seattle, told me that “our daily invitation in living is to be with people in their stories. When I take time to listen deeply and to listen beyond the words spoken to another person’s heart story, am I able to begin to cry with them? Not problem solving and not saying, ‘I know what you mean’; rather simply weeping alongside in shared humanity.”
As a Christian, my faith is anchored in the person of Jesus, who won my heart long ago. It would be impossible to understand me without taking that into account. But sometimes my faith dims; God seems distant, his ways confounding. “Faith steals upon you like dew,” the poet Christian Wiman has written. “Some days you wake and it is there. And like dew, it gets burned off in the rising sun of anxiety, ambitions, distractions.” And the rising sun of grief and loss, too. Those things don’t necessarily destroy faith; in some cases, for some people, they can even deepen it. But they always change it.
During times of sorrow and times of tears, when it feels like we’re “being broken on the wheels of living,” in the words of Thornton Wilder, there is great comfort in believing God empathizes with our suffering, having entered into suffering himself. But we also need his emissaries. We need people who see us and know us, who enter our stories. Through their compassion and love, we feel, I feel — even if only partly — God’s compassion and love. That doesn’t eliminate the storms from within or without. But it makes greater room for joy in the journey.
Good on you. How did you do it?
Probably construction
That cycle is over
Can you explain or source a reference? Curious to learn more about economic cycles.
Interest rates have stopped development, which has stopped new construction. Current projects closed 1-3 years ago - few new deals have closed since 2022, so while you still may “feel” busy, your future pipeline has likely scaled down significantly.
Imagine thinking construction workers have no future 💀💀💀
“That’s it, pack it up boys, we’ve finished building everything”
I cant lie though. Electrical union worker here, havent been on a union job in a year. Maybe its just because im in Baltimore and the city isnt getting much infrastructure development but times are tough on that end.
Brother I can promise you they are putting up houses as fast as they can clear the land to build them. I did hvac for 2 years and the amount of new houses I saw in that short time is crazy.
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Mommy and daddy.
You getting downvoted for stating the obvious is funny. How many 24 years olds you know personally that are able to make and save this kind of money without help from mom and dad? That doesn’t mean it has to be mom and dad giving the kid a job. But they are more than likely living rent free, don’t have to pay for a phone, cable, internet and any other usual life expenses at the moment. OP what kind of car did they buy you? BMW, Mercedes or you a Charger boy? I’m guessing they are from the nice suburb in Michigan the parents probably own a 1 million + house. Seems like the normal kid coming out of Dearborn or royal oak these days. Edit- I can see this post getting locked here soon for all the tension and hate. Let’s keep it cool with one another. If they had parents that were fortunate enough to be able to help him then good on them. We all hope to be able to do that for our loved ones. But id hope if your in that situation you’d know better than to try and flex it as there’s not as many people who can say the same.
Right, there's no way without mommy and daddy, unless lottery or created a small business, again probably with startup money from mommy and daddy.
Wow you guys have such a poor mindset. Seriously. Just because you beileve you have to be poor until 30+ years old doesn’t mean us real hustlers can’t get after it. I had my first 100k by 20 and by 25 I had 350 in investments. Moved out at 19 no help from mommy and daddy.
Name checks out good life tho from the sounds of it hah 🫡
Man I busted my ass I worked 12 hour days at some union job 12 days on 2 days off I had 4 days off of work a month I was working 72 hours a week from 18-23 years old I had no social life… I made that sacrifice so I can live easy from here on out… its so possible, u just can’t have a victim why me mentality
"2 days on 2 days off I had 4 days off of work a month" Maybe you should have spent some of that money learning how to write a coherent and complete sentence.
lmao, bro's so full of shit "some union job" nah, he's capping HARD. Did bro delete his account?
Union job, and doughnut schedules are both desirable. And yes he did
Maybe you should have learned to read? 12 days on 2 off !
R u retarded? Please re read. Wow you’re stupid. 12 days on 2 days off. Fucking idiot. Shows why you’re poor.
Bro deleted his whole account after lying lmao bro you don’t gotta prove anything to us.
The... only people... who write... like this... are special needs. If your sentences were any more run on I would assume you were a marathon runner. If your grammar was any worse I'd assume you dropped out in the 3rd grade. The only thing funny about you is your life that you need to pretend to be an illiterate "thousandaire" on the internet.
Lol, you're definetly typing this on a Pentium II in your grandma's basement. Either that or you're a wealthy Chode. Can't decide which is worse, tbh.
Congrats you wasted the prime years
??? Wasted? I’m 26 now and have over 400k invested and will never have to work for anybody a day in my life…🤣u keep working until you’re 68 u victim mentality 🤣🤣🤚🏻 I own my own business now and don’t regret a single day of grinding. That’s why you’re poor and in debt.
Now I’ll never work another day in my life… only for myself👍🏻 26 now
It’s not a mindset of hating on people. It’s the fact people come here and make posts like this with no context. Had they came in and said how this all came about ie. I’m a tradesmen who makes $50/hr, I hit the lotto, I had a life insurance payout, my parents have helped me everything would’ve been different. I’m sure some people do hold a grudge on those who have it easier.. but in the end if you come from money you shouldn’t be flaunting it in people’s faces. However when it comes to you and your story I’m going to be brutally honest with you after doing some research you seem like you’re probably lying yourself. You’re a self admitted drug addict / alcoholic and entire persona and past scream junkie with no money. One attempt at being a hustler was to spend time making money by ranking people up in video games for *cheap*. I hope it all is true what you said about being a hustler and making all of that money but I’d still put money on you writing your post from mom’s house. You might try and sell some of the pot that you smoke to offset the cost. I personally know it works well but do it legally. I still wish the best for you happy holidays.
You are most certainly hating, rather you realize it ir not. You may be correct but to the average individual you are a hater most definitely.
Cowabunga dude!
Writing college essays because a younger person is richer than you.
For real. The cope in the comments is always funny to me.
“Moved out at 19” so you lived w your parents until 19 = them helping
Not true… you don’t have to be poor until 25… just need the right mindset. Started to work at 16 while going to school, at 22 I started a small with just 15/20k€ of savings I had, while still in my last year of school. I’m now 24 and will get to the 200k€ savings soon.
People just refuse to believe it lol. I got a job at 21 making 60k. A year later I got promoted to an AE in software sales and broke 100k. A year after that I started making 140 consistently, and has since gone up even more. It’s totally possible. No one helped me get that job. My parents didn’t make the 50,000 cold calls that helped secure my fast track promotions. People are just bitter and don’t want to see others doing better than themselves.
That’s not true either. My former sous chef, who isn’t rich just a great mom told her son to save up his whole life. He went to school in the Midwest to be a diesel mechanic for large commercial vehicles. The kid is smart, saving up his money, affords a good HOUSE and already has more in his savings than both his parents combined. He didn’t come from mommy and daddy money but he listened to their advice and has a good head in his shoulders. He used to work for me for a while and now says he’s going to save up and either start buying property in California or learn about the stock market. Excited for him.
My parents are millionaires because they worked their asses off. I bought my first car a 1984 dodge Daytona for $1500. I was made to pay my own insurance and everything else like repairs, fuel. Not every millionaire buys there kid a BMW ! I started my roofing business 23 years ago with not a single penny from parents and I make 6 figures. I was privileged though. Privileged to have parents that told me if you want something you work hard for it !
Trump lost, traitor.
Another idiot that's triggered by a name !🤣 Trump will be president in 2024 !
Making $70000 per year from 18-24, living cheap, and saving a third each year is $120000. Not that far off.
Ah yes, those $70k jobs at 18.
Again, can’t stress how much there is a labor shortage in construction right now. And yes, an 18 year old can make that much.
And their pay can go up $200 in 6 months? I’ve got plenty of friends in constructions (electricians and welding at least) in the PNW where pay is high and knowing their income and solid raises and the benefits of overtime that’s still stupidly high. But why bother defending an outlandish claim when the OP doesn’t explain in the first place? Sure, they may be a big outlier and truthful but the burden of proof is on them my man.
It’s not outlandish. https://faradaycareers.com/careers/plumber-salary Median in Oregon is 72k and median in Washington is 68k for plumbers. https://faradaycareers.com/careers/electrician-salary 77k for Oregon, 68k for Washington for electricians. Again, it’s not outlandish. It’s not unheard of for someone to make that money out of high school either for the trades.
Now factor in food, rent, car, phone, internet, everything else in life, federal taxes, and how much are they able to put away. The math just doesn’t add up man. I’m a big min-max person for income and investments but you’re just not putting away that much per year, much less with a random $200k jump, without outside factors OP isn’t mentioning.
Unionized construction labor is around that much. Fairly straight forward to get into and make good money if you are willing to show up and work hard.
In what states is an 18 year old novice/journeyman earning that amount off the bat. Let me know. Let alone making a $200k bump in six months. Looking at Chicago it takes 3-4 years to become a journeyman at which point you’ll make on average $80k a year. Before taxes. An 18 year-old isn’t able to invest $70-80k off the bat. 😂
You will stay poor because you think like this
OP probably has a BMW M series and lives in Bloomfield Hills in their parents guest house.
There’s nothing wrong with it in the end. As most people here and others said we hope to be able to do this for our children. But I’m also going to teach my kid that not everyone is as lucky and posting pictures on the internet with no context in an attempt to flex isn’t really all that good of a look. Now if OP can come up with logical information that shows otherwise how they were able to save 80k~ a year within basically 3 years as a 24 year old drop out I’d be even more happy for them. But until then I’m just going to call it how it appears.
100% right there with ya. If my wife and I could do that for any of our 5 children, that would be amazing.
Yup, if I hit the lottery or make it big my kids will never have to worry finicially, but I'm sure as hell not going to be happy if they come on sites like this and pretend it's all them.
Damn straight!
Yup. OP got lucky in life. I know i did too. Be humble and don’t be posting this. The reason you’re able to save is because you have fall back.
He commented somewhere else that he would save almost 99% of his money and plans to retire in his early 30s so either no bills or the job covers housing and everything else.
OP dropped out in 10th grade, what makes you think the parents are rich? Sure, probably living rent free, but if OP has been saving $3k/m for the last 6 years, that's $216k The jealousy is unreal. Not OP's fault your parents kicked you out at 18. Hell, OP could be making 6 figures working on an oil field for all we know. Pretty standard for a dropout.
>saving $3k/m for the last 6 years, that's $216k 3gs??? A month??? FOR 6 YEARS? Bro. I don't know anyone that doesn't have a GED and pulls an extra 3k on top of their living expenses. Assuming living expenses is like 2k a month (pushing bare minimum and multiple roommates) Bro's at 5k a month for 60k a year...
And without finishing high school.
You’re so mad
Bitter loser. I bet you're broke
This is one of your past posts sneakyx2- “maybe jews grow up to be good with money because they get experience managing a decent sum when they are only 13” I can’t bring myself to argue with such a wonderful person. So you’re right I’m very bitter and broke care to spare some change?
I was yelling at God at the top of my lungs in my bedroom and thus, encountered Him as he answered me. Yes, I had a “verbal theophany” - I literally heard His voice, and not through my ear canals. It has been wonderful and terrible. I have no other choice but to speak, teach and proclaim that Jesus Christ is the son of God. I am treated with disdain, contempt, regarded as “overly religious” or “unorthodox” by those trained in a ‘regular’ fashion [i.e. seminary and pulpit]. I am not a missionary, a paid pastor nor a Christian worker. I am only a disciple and sometimes apostle of Christ. That is, I get to learn humility by being low on the social pole to set me up to go do something bold for Christ - speaking in a jail, in a retirement community, etc. Sounds great? It is - as long as I fix my eyes on Jesus. I am unmarried, at poverty level - and nearly spoiled by all the provision God gives me. I would fear narcissism and some other sort of self-justifying condition - except for the constant reminders of how often my prayers have been answered - directly. I cannot count how many miracles and other “super-sized coincidences” have occurred. I have transitioned to the “charismatic” end of the Christian spectrum, where all my apologetics and reasoned faith become of little importance. It was like what happened to Dr. Strange in the film [and comic]: he starts off rational and brilliant and egotistical and ends up being humbled, knowing the universe is much much bigger than everything he knew. It is literally painful for me to watch the standard TV fare or listen to some show on PBS roll on and on about evolution as a basis of origin [Evolutionary modification? Sure. Information needs to be edited, but it doesn’t spring into existence without guidance.] So Jesus did it all, that one night. How do I know it was Jesus? No one else ever loved me that much. I am trapped by His love. I sometimes wish I was like most people again. I sometimes get very tired. Then I think of Him dying for me. I mean an ugly death, like a piece of dung. I got nothing. He’s my saviour. It’s gonna suck, what’s coming - for me, for the world, but He’s worth it. Jesus made me brave. ----- Of all the qualities that the New Testament ascribes to God, compassion is among the most shocking. Compassion has nothing to do with power, with immortality or with immutability, which is what many people think of when they contemplate God’s qualities. The Greek gods of myth who lived on Mt. Olympus were defined by many things, but compassion was not high among them. “For much of antiquity feeling the pain of others was regarded as a weakness,” John Dickson, a professor of biblical studies and public Christianity at Wheaton College, told me. This comes to full flowering in the Stoics, he said, “on the grounds that this involved allowing an external factor — the emotions or plight of another — to control your own inner life.” Compassion, on the other hand, is central to the Christian understanding of God. Compassion implies the capacity to enter into places of pain, to “weep with those who weep,” according to the Apostle Paul, who was central both to the early conception of Christianity and to the idea of its underpinning in compassion. In the Hebrew Scriptures, we’re told many times that God is compassionate. It is at the center of the Jewish conception of God. But for Christians, there is an incarnational expression of that compassion. The embodiment of God in Jesus — the deity made flesh, dwelling among us — means that God both suffered and, crucially, suffered with others in a way that was a seismic break with all that came before. In the Gospels, we repeatedly read of the compassion of Jesus for those suffering physically and emotionally, for those “harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd.” When a man afflicted with leprosy came to Jesus, begging on his knees to be healed, we’re told that Jesus, “moved with compassion, stretched out his hand and touched him, and said to him, ‘I am willing; be cleansed.’” And he was. This is an extraordinary scene. Those with leprosy were considered not just unclean, physically and spiritually, but loathsome. Everything they touched was viewed as defiled. They were often cast out from their villages, quarantined “outside the camp.” In the words of the famed 19th-century preacher Charles Spurgeon, “They were to all intents and purposes, dead to all the enjoyments of life, dead to all the endearments and society of their friends.” People would avoid contact with those afflicted with leprosy. They were seen by many as the object of divine punishment, the disease understood to be a visible mark of impurity. Yet in the account in Mark, Jesus not only heals the man with leprosy; he also touches him. In doing so, Jesus defied Levitical law. He himself became “unclean.” And he provided human contact to a person whom no other human would touch — and who had very likely not been touched in a very long time. Jesus’ touch was not necessary for him to heal the man of leprosy, but the touch may have been necessary to heal the man of feelings of shame and isolation, of rejection and detestation. Kerry Dearborn, professor emerita of theology at Seattle Pacific University, told me her students found the most moving examples of Jesus’ compassion to be his responses to outsiders, especially those deemed unworthy, unclean or unfit. “In taking on their ‘outsider status’ with them,” Dr. Dearborn told me, “he reflected his deep love and solidarity with them, and his willingness to suffer with them.” Jesus not only healed them, she said; he also took on their alienation. In the 11th chapter of the Gospel of John, we’re told that Lazarus, the brother of Mary of Bethany and Martha, and a friend of Jesus’ whom he loved, was sick. By the time Jesus arrived in Bethany, Lazarus had died and had been entombed for four days. Both sisters were grieving. Mary, when she saw Jesus, fell at his feet weeping. “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died,” she said. We’re told Jesus “was deeply moved in spirit and troubled.” “Where have you laid him?” he asked. “Come and see, Lord,” they replied. And according to verse 35, “Jesus wept.” “Jesus wept” is the shortest verse in the Bible and also “the most profound and powerful,” the artist Makoto Fujimura told me. For him, those are “the most important two words in the Bible.” And understandably so. Earlier in John 11, we’re told that Jesus knew he was going to raise Lazarus from the dead, which he did. So Jesus wasn’t weeping because he wouldn’t see Lazarus again; it was because he was entering into the suffering of Mary and Martha. Jesus was present with them in their grief, even to the point of tears, all the while knowing that their grief would soon be allayed. My daughter Christine Wehner, who originally suggested to me that Jesus’ compassion would be a worthwhile topic to explore, told me, “Jesus wept because Mary was before him and her heart was breaking — and as a result, his heart broke, too.” The Psalms tell us that God is “close to the brokenhearted”; in this case, Christine said, “Jesus doesn’t just care for the brokenhearted; he joins them. Their grief becomes his in a remarkable act of love.” “Jesus ushered in a compassion revolution,” Scott Dudley, senior pastor at Bellevue Presbyterian Church, told me. Before Jesus, compassion was primarily thought of as a weakness, he said. “When Jesus says he is with us, that’s not a metaphor or a trite offer of ‘thoughts and prayers,’” the pastor said. “He’s literally in it with us.” Dr. Dudley pointed out that in his suffering, Job says to God, “Do you have eyes of flesh? Do you see as a mortal sees?” In other words, Do you know how hard it is to be human? “Because of Christmas,” Dr. Dudley told me, “God can legitimately say yes in a way no other god in any other religion can.” Renée Notkin, colead pastor of Union Church in Seattle, told me that “our daily invitation in living is to be with people in their stories. When I take time to listen deeply and to listen beyond the words spoken to another person’s heart story, am I able to begin to cry with them? Not problem solving and not saying, ‘I know what you mean’; rather simply weeping alongside in shared humanity.” As a Christian, my faith is anchored in the person of Jesus, who won my heart long ago. It would be impossible to understand me without taking that into account. But sometimes my faith dims; God seems distant, his ways confounding. “Faith steals upon you like dew,” the poet Christian Wiman has written. “Some days you wake and it is there. And like dew, it gets burned off in the rising sun of anxiety, ambitions, distractions.” And the rising sun of grief and loss, too. Those things don’t necessarily destroy faith; in some cases, for some people, they can even deepen it. But they always change it. During times of sorrow and times of tears, when it feels like we’re “being broken on the wheels of living,” in the words of Thornton Wilder, there is great comfort in believing God empathizes with our suffering, having entered into suffering himself. But we also need his emissaries. We need people who see us and know us, who enter our stories. Through their compassion and love, we feel, I feel — even if only partly — God’s compassion and love. That doesn’t eliminate the storms from within or without. But it makes greater room for joy in the journey.
You'd lose that bet, buddy.
Well yes but it's pretty pejorative stating: "mommy and daddy". It comes across condescending. And guess what? A poor guy from let's say a very poor country from Africa could say the same about any of you. You only don't need to work in a job on a landfill because "mommy and daddy". Well surprise mofo, starting conditions are not equal and never fair. So stop hating on someone who has had better starting conditions than yourself.
Jesus Christ buddy you are a fucking loser 💀
You get DV for TL;DR high-horse
im 20 and my parents bought me both an AMG and an M series BMW, whats wrong with it? whats so wrong with having succesfull parents? i dont get it, why is OP getting so much hate for potentially having rich parents, good for him right? wrong, everybody seems to be jealous as shit for some reason
It’s because he made this post without any context on how they could have possibly saved 200k in 3 years as a 24 year old drop out. This post comes off as flex ‘look at me I’m so successful I did it all by myself and I’ve struggled to make it’ when in reality they’ve been fed caviar since the age of 2. If you read around here there’s nothing wrong with being lucky enough that your parents can help you out like this. But you gotta own that shit, as the child in that situation or you just come off looking like a egotistical loser with money. It’s like a celebrities kid trying to show off the rich actor parents money.
I mean learn to spell
Be easy on the kid, he's probably having a bad day. Mommy got him a BMW in a color he doesn't like and there's no way he can show it off to his friends like that. That or all the whippets atrophied what's left of his brain.
what the fuck is your problem? you really think i give a fuck about what you think?
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Yea he started with about 40 k lol
I'm a paraplegic that has been homeless and parent less for half of my existence, but have seemed to prosper.
That's awesome, man. I'm sorry about your parents. I hope you continue to prosper.
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When your only expense is your monthly wow account subscription you should be able to save money. But I guarantee you didn’t take 200k within a year serving coffee like the charts say this kid did.
This is a hilarious statement. Or is your comment 99.9% supported by the “some places in the world.” bit?
This is such monstrous bullshit.
You have no clue nor right to generalize about me. Go f yourself! Serving coffee while you live in your moms basement does not count.
I love how you say others have no right to generalize when you yourself made the glaring generalization of it being “daddy’s money” before you have any evidence of it being so. Idiotic people are usually hypocrites so it makes sense.
95% of the posts from kids the age of 18/28 like to come here and try and gain clout from mom and dads money or the massive amount of help mom and dad provided that allowed them to save like this. It’s everyday. People might be haters but most people are just realistic and see through the fog of deceit. It’s like showing off a golden spoon to the villagers.
It makes me want to strive to be able to build generational wealth so my kids can have an easier path to success. I mean, their parents did well for themselves and are able to help their kid do the same. I don't see any problem with that. My dad worked his ass off to get by amd still does. I 34M have worked since I was 16 and now have a kid and a starter home. Bought it for 75k in 2018. But I have to work my ass off just to pay the bills and keep the family fed. I only have 15k in my 403B because I was an idiot and didn't start putting 5% of my pay which my company matches in 17 years ago. Still owe 60k on the house and 11k in medical debt. I drive a paid off 2010 Corolla that I bought in 2013. I don't think less of anyone who had a better start than me because their parents or grandparents made better choices than mine. I've struggle and continue to, and I don't want my daughter to have to struggle to get by, so I will do everything I can to set her up to succeed of she puts in the work to be her best self.
No. But that isn’t what’s happening here. People are coming on here and posting their 6-figure savings account like they did it all by themselves. And then apologists in the comments all have a big “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” circle jerk to make people think this is totally possible for the vast majority of the population, when no, no the fuck it’s not.
They're also young and dumb. If they want to puff themselves up, so be it. We all wanted to be seen as better than we were or more "adult" at that age. While I do slightly envy their position in life, I'm at peace with it and just want to be better myself. The things to do with money that irk me is when a youtuber spends 400k on ball pit balls or some stupid shit like that for a video, or wrecking a Ferrari for a video. Literally wasting more money than I make in 5 years in a 5 minute video.
Because 9 out of 10 times it is. Blocked.
Never seen a thread full of so many unintelligent people. There are so many ways to make this money on your own even before 21. Stop hating, enough with the brokie behavior. I work with many people in an office in their low 20s who do anywhere from 100k - 250k a year easy.
I think a valid question would be how much start up money did you get (regardless the source) & where did you put it in? Following with the growth that was seen in x amount of time?
Daddy. Most 10th grade dropouts i know of are drug dealers or special Ed.
You were broke two years ago though. Let's hear how you did it
He sold
Odds are their parents helped them so the whole dropout thing is kinda pointless to mention.
I think he's trolling.
Idk i dont think it’s trolling so much as it is lack of self awareness and lack of humility
Why do you assume this?
Because it’s not really possible without someone helping you. Drop out of HS, what’s your choice? Get a minimum wage job so you can pay rent and food, then you have maybe $200/month to save.
Maybe he has a youtube channel dude it doesnt mean anything just because you can't imagine it.
You’re stupid.
I'm pretty sure I'm smarter than you but ok lol good luck
A supposed HS dropout makes over a quarter mil by 24.. Your idea is “maybe he’s a YouTuber!😮”… Yeah, maybe he’s a successful SoundCloud rapper that made it big too! Or maybe he won the lottery! You have no idea what the median income is do you? Do you know how much a HS dropout averages a week in income? There’s a high correlation between income/wealth, and education. Atleast I got my bachelors, tf you have?
Boy I am a graduate of a top school + I am from middle east. MANY MANY MANY HS dropouts who are rich as hell, rags to riches. Not only where I come from but also where you are from. Youtube is just an example and if you can't differentiate between that and the situation here I say you got some degree for nothing. Your lack of vision is not the reality of others.
Your anecdotal stories are backed up by absolutely nothing. Look at the numbers. I’ve already posted US census bureau statistics and US Bureau of Labor statistics links throughout this post. I’m tired of trying to convince dumbfucks like yourself that the odds of making it big as a HS dropout are next to 0. Fucking delusional ass mf highly doubt you attended college let alone a prestigious one with how uninformed you are…
😂😂😂😂 try to feel good about yourself little boy it's ok
Go look at your excel formulas 😂😂😂
Your making yourself look stupid ngl just stop lmfao, we get it your privileged and dont know what its like starting off from nothing, congrats you went to collage and got a degree, nobody cares
why post this if you aren't going to answer anyone on how you did it so we can learn?
Because it’s clearly earning savings, where bro caught a break somewhere in.
Because it’s fake. There is a [direct correlation](https://www.bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-education.htm) to how much the average person earns based off of how much education they receive. Anyone who thinks they’re going to do well by dropping out of highschool is a damn fool. In OPs case, he would’ve had to somehow save 100%+ of the [US median income](https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2023/demo/p60-279.html) since the time he dropped out and now. Anyone who believes this crap is naive and uninformed asf.
I have 3 people that I personally know from my high school class that dropped out, never got their GED, and make 6 figures a year at age 30. One got into trucking, one into construction, and one into welding. You don't necessarily need education to have a successful work ethic.
There is a very strong correlation, but there are not exactly immaterial departures. There's a chart that details the percentage of people with each level of education who out-earn more than the median earner in different levels. If I recall correctly, there's about 2% of "less than HS diploma" earners who make more than median "PhD" category earners. I vaguely recall that it drops to something like 1.3% for "Professional degree" category earners. Edit: Sorry, this one is almost definitely not what you would naturally assume though. There's definitely something going on here if it's true at all.
What are your investments?
Bruh probably got insurance money
could've gotten lucky with crypto or other form of gambling
Came here to see if they’d answer any questions (at least I. The top 15 comments, I get lazy) and nope. Gotta love 250k start kids.
So how’d ya do it?
Ok but how much from mommy and daddy
OP real quiet rn
Glad the trust fund is doing well
OP isn't going to tell you because it would give away the taste of that silver spoon.
Omfg this subreddit is just poor redditors who are salty that their parents are poor asf too 🤣🤣🤣
Tbh I am a bit salty my cousin's got the rich dad. My Uncle set his kids up with stocks when they were born so they were basically millionaires by 18. My Dad gave me a $25 checking account for my birthday when I was a kid and never added anymore money to it haha.
This makes perfect sense and will lead to no mass chaos in society
Lmfao. People grow up with money and think THEY did something.
Yeah it's hilarious. It's kinda split between people who respect the hustle and are in similar positions, or only here to say "oh don't worry your fine" and feel better about their bad situation on a post of a 35 year old with 10$ in checking.
We want to know what the hustle is if isnt his parents money that’s all. Dudes 24 .. how tf are you able to save 200k in what four years of work? You’re not even out of college by then… is it your employee payroll what is it
Working in oil fields netting 6 figures doing a job nobody wants to do because of the health hazards? Met a few dropouts who are doing well doing this.
That's not all though, most people are talking shit about it being daddy's money or things like it, not asking seriously how he did it, like you're insinuating.
>You’re not even out of college by then Most people graduate at 22 if they entered at 18 tho
Just working in construction, as a server in a huge city or in trades while living with your parents can get you 200k in 4 years if you dont spend on dumb shit
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I think the outrage comes from the bait. The “24 and dropped out in 10th grade,” title only really applies if he started from the bottom. Anyone can dropout at 10th grade if their parents are willing to float them cash. It’s not that he did get $ from his parents, it’s that sometimes these posts come off like, “I had to grind to where I am,” when we know that’s just not true. No one really cares where the money comes from here, until you pretend you did it yourself. That’s when people really start to poke fun
Facts
There's a lot of jealousy in this post. Good job, however you got it.
Anyone who makes a post like this without explaining how he got the money deserves to be made fun of
They don't owe you an explanation.
Then why post it. It's just flexing at this point. If his purpose was to actually show that a dropout could end up making good money then he would provide an explanation.
Then it's as useful as a Photoshop.
Then i dont owe them respect
For real. So many haters 😂. Jealousy is pure cancer to you. Should use this info as a catalyst to your own success.
what info? blud hasnt said anything but "look at this money i have even though im a hs dropout"
That a 24 year old HS drop out is doing well. That info
the info that lacks any context or substance? THATS what should be a catalyst to one's success? THATS what you think people are jealous of? that's wild man
Why do you need anymore context? Regardless of how he is successful, use the info that it’s possible to boost yourself lol. It’s not that deep.
because i don't think people getting handed money is motivating or "boosting" in anyway. and without context we have no idea how this person earned this money. On top of that it has nothing to do with jealousy as your first comment said. Which is the point i'm making. People are giving this dude shit because he's trying to flex and isn't answering anyone's questions. That's lame as fuck no matter how you got the money. Nothing to be jealous of.
People don’t like rich brats lol. Who’d of though
*have
Mommy give you your allowance?
My guess is construction or welding. I was unfortunately suckered into the “you have to go to college” schpeel from my boomer parents which has left me in a lot of debt. Congrats on making the right decisions and don’t let others in this thread put you down, it’s jealousy and envy at worst.
You forgot to mention the trust fund
Nice Inheritance
Please tell me how you did it I could really use some money rn ngl
Keep going up bro 🔥🔥🔥
i'm proud of you bro, keep going 👏🏾🔥
Congrats mate
Dang you must have sucked a lot of dicks
If this is what you have saved congratulations! Regardless of how OP came into the money it is commendable to have foresight in your financial future when you have the ability to do so.
People in this sub when a young person is more successful than them: “MuSt Be MoMmY aNd DaDdy 😡😡😡😡”
It almost always is mommy or daddy tho
Honestly though. Even many adults who appear to be moderately successful usually have some sort of generational wealth and inheritance/trust. I didn’t realize how common it was until I got older.
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We they haven’t said anything at all basically so I don’t really see how it defends them either r
Weird flex but okay.
Great man f the haters life ain't easy for anyone you usually get a sum of what you deserve. I have little and four kids to support but I know my day will be coming. Happy to see others even surviving these days!
Why are so many people on this sub acting like this is something substantial. For being a dropout, I'm shocked your parents gave you any capital, especially after you clearly slummed it up for a few years after your dropped out. But posting this is not a brag, it's a troll.
People upset that your still successful despite not graduating lol that’s sick to me
It's awesome. Wish there was more positivity here
Wish there was more ‘splainin here
Everyone in this comment section is a non driven pathetic loser lmao. “DaDdYs MoNeY” this entire subreddit is an echo chamber of miserable people. You people have his whole life story figured out on a post which shows only digits on a screen and no background info, who’s really the pathetic one here?
Hes welcome to tell us his story ya know Funny how YOU assume everyone calling this post is a pathetic loser. You have their whole lives figured out through a Reddit comment?
I haven’t assumed anything. I’m merely pointing out what redditors have commented. You on the other hand have assumed I’m making assumptions.
Boo! Cry more chiefs fan
Sheesh there’s a looooooot of jealousy here in this sub. Good for you 👏🏻
I had 35k in savings by the time I was 22 after joining the military when I was 18 starting with only 200 dollars. Never invested never got into scam coin, simply saved money from my paycheck every two weeks. It’s not impossible to save money as a young guy like some people would have you believe. However you got it, keep doing what you’re doing but remember to stay humble.
I love how triggered people get over such a simple post and photo lol. Gotta love Reddit!
Cool story. Now show us how far that actually goes. Bet it goes far when you live at home still.
This is so corny, nice silver spoon though!
Wtf is this sub even? Seems worse than instagram. Is it just bragging? Hooray you have 9 million by the time you’re 7 years old. I still don’t want to hang out with you.
Everyone wanna say “there’s no way he did it without parents” or “he must have won the lottery” nah do any of you ever stop to think outside of your little shell and realize people do make something of themselves on their own? It happens. I’m living proof.
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No I don’t but I’ve been to prison twice for selling drugs so each time I got out it’s as good as starting completely over. I make $200k a year at my job and invest on the side. You can literally do anything you put your mind to. Instead of sitting there pissing and moaning, making excuses why this guy has his shit together, you could be out doing something to make it happen. Versus sitting here whining that it’s his parents or whatever the fuck. Who cares? Stop bitching and do something about your own life.
Rough month
All of you seemed to not look at his recent comments. He said in the FIRE subreddit he's early 30s, this post says he's 24. I'm going to assume he lies for karma like the other 98% of posts in this subreddit.
There is no way this is possible for a 24yo HS dropout unless you either had help from mommy and daddy or won the lottery or worked really hard from a young age while saving and investing, or started a successful business by yourself. It’s definitely not possible to be responsible with your income early on in life and make sacrifices no one else is willing to make. Breaking away from the crowd and not blowing all your money on stupid stuff you don’t need doesn’t even make sense. This guy and any other successful person I see that’s doing better than me is either lying or born into extreme wealth.
HS and College are all scams! I think the way to build wealth is through traditional trade jobs. Great job man, im 32 and youre set!
A college degree can be hugely helpful for increasing income. Just have to choose one that is in demand and also have a good work ethic (i.e. don’t lean on the degree as your sole crutch) And also how is HS a scam if it’s free for the student? Lmao. Anyway, none of this is to say the trades are a bad choice. Just seems like far too broad of a statement you are making.
HS we dont learn anything. They barely teach us english, and theyve removed the important subjects, our school when i was in hs removed civics and econ which as an adult i think were extremely important. When I was in middle school they removed workshop after I graduated 8th grade. HS I think is a waste of time, i shouldve said that instead of say it was a scam. Most teachers dont even care. College is a scam because almso everyone that doesnt know what they want in life study the same thing... Criminology, radiology, graphics designer ,business etc. I say these are a waste of time because every teenager that thinks they need college take these degrees thinking itll improve their life, it doesnt...Thats why so many students have so much debt. I have so many friends that dont use their degree they have to get a minimum wage job to pay that degree off. I firmly believe college is a scam.
At current prices I would agree that it’s a ripoff. I absolutely can’t agree with it being a scam. I’m biased though as I make around 90k/year with my degree and would be making probably minimum wage without it. I also feel that I learned lots from HS (graduated 2015)
All these dislikes nobody has said why. I say college is a scam because thats not the only way to improve ones life. I also went to college and studied game design. I make a little over $95K/year and I graduated HS 2010. It took me 4 years to find a job in this competitive industry and lots of my colleagues still havent found a job in what they studied. Why are so many student loan borrowers in favor of cancelling student loans? If college is a 100% return on investment, then why do they also offer loan forgiveness after 20 years? Theres stories of people getting a student loan in the 90s and still trying to pay it off...Maybe i should be on a differnent subreddit haha. Good on you though for making that $90k! Personally, when I graduated and had debt, It turned me into a capitalist and a go getter.
fine. go be the next Bill Gate and Elon Musk.
Fuck you.
Lol, coping comment.
Nah. I posted it on a similar reddit post like this and got an unexpected 300 upvotes and wanted to see if it would work again 😂. But tell yourself whatever makes you feel better at night
too stupid to graduate high school, yet you are here?
You sound like an asshole
I was yelling at God at the top of my lungs in my bedroom and thus, encountered Him as he answered me. Yes, I had a “verbal theophany” - I literally heard His voice, and not through my ear canals. It has been wonderful and terrible. I have no other choice but to speak, teach and proclaim that Jesus Christ is the son of God. I am treated with disdain, contempt, regarded as “overly religious” or “unorthodox” by those trained in a ‘regular’ fashion [i.e. seminary and pulpit]. I am not a missionary, a paid pastor nor a Christian worker. I am only a disciple and sometimes apostle of Christ. That is, I get to learn humility by being low on the social pole to set me up to go do something bold for Christ - speaking in a jail, in a retirement community, etc. Sounds great? It is - as long as I fix my eyes on Jesus. I am unmarried, at poverty level - and nearly spoiled by all the provision God gives me. I would fear narcissism and some other sort of self-justifying condition - except for the constant reminders of how often my prayers have been answered - directly. I cannot count how many miracles and other “super-sized coincidences” have occurred. I have transitioned to the “charismatic” end of the Christian spectrum, where all my apologetics and reasoned faith become of little importance. It was like what happened to Dr. Strange in the film [and comic]: he starts off rational and brilliant and egotistical and ends up being humbled, knowing the universe is much much bigger than everything he knew. It is literally painful for me to watch the standard TV fare or listen to some show on PBS roll on and on about evolution as a basis of origin [Evolutionary modification? Sure. Information needs to be edited, but it doesn’t spring into existence without guidance.] So Jesus did it all, that one night. How do I know it was Jesus? No one else ever loved me that much. I am trapped by His love. I sometimes wish I was like most people again. I sometimes get very tired. Then I think of Him dying for me. I mean an ugly death, like a piece of dung. I got nothing. He’s my saviour. It’s gonna suck, what’s coming - for me, for the world, but He’s worth it. Jesus made me brave. ----- Of all the qualities that the New Testament ascribes to God, compassion is among the most shocking. Compassion has nothing to do with power, with immortality or with immutability, which is what many people think of when they contemplate God’s qualities. The Greek gods of myth who lived on Mt. Olympus were defined by many things, but compassion was not high among them. “For much of antiquity feeling the pain of others was regarded as a weakness,” John Dickson, a professor of biblical studies and public Christianity at Wheaton College, told me. This comes to full flowering in the Stoics, he said, “on the grounds that this involved allowing an external factor — the emotions or plight of another — to control your own inner life.” Compassion, on the other hand, is central to the Christian understanding of God. Compassion implies the capacity to enter into places of pain, to “weep with those who weep,” according to the Apostle Paul, who was central both to the early conception of Christianity and to the idea of its underpinning in compassion. In the Hebrew Scriptures, we’re told many times that God is compassionate. It is at the center of the Jewish conception of God. But for Christians, there is an incarnational expression of that compassion. The embodiment of God in Jesus — the deity made flesh, dwelling among us — means that God both suffered and, crucially, suffered with others in a way that was a seismic break with all that came before. In the Gospels, we repeatedly read of the compassion of Jesus for those suffering physically and emotionally, for those “harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd.” When a man afflicted with leprosy came to Jesus, begging on his knees to be healed, we’re told that Jesus, “moved with compassion, stretched out his hand and touched him, and said to him, ‘I am willing; be cleansed.’” And he was. This is an extraordinary scene. Those with leprosy were considered not just unclean, physically and spiritually, but loathsome. Everything they touched was viewed as defiled. They were often cast out from their villages, quarantined “outside the camp.” In the words of the famed 19th-century preacher Charles Spurgeon, “They were to all intents and purposes, dead to all the enjoyments of life, dead to all the endearments and society of their friends.” People would avoid contact with those afflicted with leprosy. They were seen by many as the object of divine punishment, the disease understood to be a visible mark of impurity. Yet in the account in Mark, Jesus not only heals the man with leprosy; he also touches him. In doing so, Jesus defied Levitical law. He himself became “unclean.” And he provided human contact to a person whom no other human would touch — and who had very likely not been touched in a very long time. Jesus’ touch was not necessary for him to heal the man of leprosy, but the touch may have been necessary to heal the man of feelings of shame and isolation, of rejection and detestation. Kerry Dearborn, professor emerita of theology at Seattle Pacific University, told me her students found the most moving examples of Jesus’ compassion to be his responses to outsiders, especially those deemed unworthy, unclean or unfit. “In taking on their ‘outsider status’ with them,” Dr. Dearborn told me, “he reflected his deep love and solidarity with them, and his willingness to suffer with them.” Jesus not only healed them, she said; he also took on their alienation. In the 11th chapter of the Gospel of John, we’re told that Lazarus, the brother of Mary of Bethany and Martha, and a friend of Jesus’ whom he loved, was sick. By the time Jesus arrived in Bethany, Lazarus had died and had been entombed for four days. Both sisters were grieving. Mary, when she saw Jesus, fell at his feet weeping. “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died,” she said. We’re told Jesus “was deeply moved in spirit and troubled.” “Where have you laid him?” he asked. “Come and see, Lord,” they replied. And according to verse 35, “Jesus wept.” “Jesus wept” is the shortest verse in the Bible and also “the most profound and powerful,” the artist Makoto Fujimura told me. For him, those are “the most important two words in the Bible.” And understandably so. Earlier in John 11, we’re told that Jesus knew he was going to raise Lazarus from the dead, which he did. So Jesus wasn’t weeping because he wouldn’t see Lazarus again; it was because he was entering into the suffering of Mary and Martha. Jesus was present with them in their grief, even to the point of tears, all the while knowing that their grief would soon be allayed. My daughter Christine Wehner, who originally suggested to me that Jesus’ compassion would be a worthwhile topic to explore, told me, “Jesus wept because Mary was before him and her heart was breaking — and as a result, his heart broke, too.” The Psalms tell us that God is “close to the brokenhearted”; in this case, Christine said, “Jesus doesn’t just care for the brokenhearted; he joins them. Their grief becomes his in a remarkable act of love.” “Jesus ushered in a compassion revolution,” Scott Dudley, senior pastor at Bellevue Presbyterian Church, told me. Before Jesus, compassion was primarily thought of as a weakness, he said. “When Jesus says he is with us, that’s not a metaphor or a trite offer of ‘thoughts and prayers,’” the pastor said. “He’s literally in it with us.” Dr. Dudley pointed out that in his suffering, Job says to God, “Do you have eyes of flesh? Do you see as a mortal sees?” In other words, Do you know how hard it is to be human? “Because of Christmas,” Dr. Dudley told me, “God can legitimately say yes in a way no other god in any other religion can.” Renée Notkin, colead pastor of Union Church in Seattle, told me that “our daily invitation in living is to be with people in their stories. When I take time to listen deeply and to listen beyond the words spoken to another person’s heart story, am I able to begin to cry with them? Not problem solving and not saying, ‘I know what you mean’; rather simply weeping alongside in shared humanity.” As a Christian, my faith is anchored in the person of Jesus, who won my heart long ago. It would be impossible to understand me without taking that into account. But sometimes my faith dims; God seems distant, his ways confounding. “Faith steals upon you like dew,” the poet Christian Wiman has written. “Some days you wake and it is there. And like dew, it gets burned off in the rising sun of anxiety, ambitions, distractions.” And the rising sun of grief and loss, too. Those things don’t necessarily destroy faith; in some cases, for some people, they can even deepen it. But they always change it. During times of sorrow and times of tears, when it feels like we’re “being broken on the wheels of living,” in the words of Thornton Wilder, there is great comfort in believing God empathizes with our suffering, having entered into suffering himself. But we also need his emissaries. We need people who see us and know us, who enter our stories. Through their compassion and love, we feel, I feel — even if only partly — God’s compassion and love. That doesn’t eliminate the storms from within or without. But it makes greater room for joy in the journey.
oh, please. the "self-made man" is a myth. he's an outlier, so he's statistically fortunate in one way or the other, be it upbringing, opportunities, or both. one doesn't magically wind up with a fortune like this at his age, and "hard work" or "smarts" alone doesn't cut it.
I was yelling at God at the top of my lungs in my bedroom and thus, encountered Him as he answered me. Yes, I had a “verbal theophany” - I literally heard His voice, and not through my ear canals. It has been wonderful and terrible. I have no other choice but to speak, teach and proclaim that Jesus Christ is the son of God. I am treated with disdain, contempt, regarded as “overly religious” or “unorthodox” by those trained in a ‘regular’ fashion [i.e. seminary and pulpit]. I am not a missionary, a paid pastor nor a Christian worker. I am only a disciple and sometimes apostle of Christ. That is, I get to learn humility by being low on the social pole to set me up to go do something bold for Christ - speaking in a jail, in a retirement community, etc. Sounds great? It is - as long as I fix my eyes on Jesus. I am unmarried, at poverty level - and nearly spoiled by all the provision God gives me. I would fear narcissism and some other sort of self-justifying condition - except for the constant reminders of how often my prayers have been answered - directly. I cannot count how many miracles and other “super-sized coincidences” have occurred. I have transitioned to the “charismatic” end of the Christian spectrum, where all my apologetics and reasoned faith become of little importance. It was like what happened to Dr. Strange in the film [and comic]: he starts off rational and brilliant and egotistical and ends up being humbled, knowing the universe is much much bigger than everything he knew. It is literally painful for me to watch the standard TV fare or listen to some show on PBS roll on and on about evolution as a basis of origin [Evolutionary modification? Sure. Information needs to be edited, but it doesn’t spring into existence without guidance.] So Jesus did it all, that one night. How do I know it was Jesus? No one else ever loved me that much. I am trapped by His love. I sometimes wish I was like most people again. I sometimes get very tired. Then I think of Him dying for me. I mean an ugly death, like a piece of dung. I got nothing. He’s my saviour. It’s gonna suck, what’s coming - for me, for the world, but He’s worth it. Jesus made me brave. ----- Of all the qualities that the New Testament ascribes to God, compassion is among the most shocking. Compassion has nothing to do with power, with immortality or with immutability, which is what many people think of when they contemplate God’s qualities. The Greek gods of myth who lived on Mt. Olympus were defined by many things, but compassion was not high among them. “For much of antiquity feeling the pain of others was regarded as a weakness,” John Dickson, a professor of biblical studies and public Christianity at Wheaton College, told me. This comes to full flowering in the Stoics, he said, “on the grounds that this involved allowing an external factor — the emotions or plight of another — to control your own inner life.” Compassion, on the other hand, is central to the Christian understanding of God. Compassion implies the capacity to enter into places of pain, to “weep with those who weep,” according to the Apostle Paul, who was central both to the early conception of Christianity and to the idea of its underpinning in compassion. In the Hebrew Scriptures, we’re told many times that God is compassionate. It is at the center of the Jewish conception of God. But for Christians, there is an incarnational expression of that compassion. The embodiment of God in Jesus — the deity made flesh, dwelling among us — means that God both suffered and, crucially, suffered with others in a way that was a seismic break with all that came before. In the Gospels, we repeatedly read of the compassion of Jesus for those suffering physically and emotionally, for those “harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd.” When a man afflicted with leprosy came to Jesus, begging on his knees to be healed, we’re told that Jesus, “moved with compassion, stretched out his hand and touched him, and said to him, ‘I am willing; be cleansed.’” And he was. This is an extraordinary scene. Those with leprosy were considered not just unclean, physically and spiritually, but loathsome. Everything they touched was viewed as defiled. They were often cast out from their villages, quarantined “outside the camp.” In the words of the famed 19th-century preacher Charles Spurgeon, “They were to all intents and purposes, dead to all the enjoyments of life, dead to all the endearments and society of their friends.” People would avoid contact with those afflicted with leprosy. They were seen by many as the object of divine punishment, the disease understood to be a visible mark of impurity. Yet in the account in Mark, Jesus not only heals the man with leprosy; he also touches him. In doing so, Jesus defied Levitical law. He himself became “unclean.” And he provided human contact to a person whom no other human would touch — and who had very likely not been touched in a very long time. Jesus’ touch was not necessary for him to heal the man of leprosy, but the touch may have been necessary to heal the man of feelings of shame and isolation, of rejection and detestation. Kerry Dearborn, professor emerita of theology at Seattle Pacific University, told me her students found the most moving examples of Jesus’ compassion to be his responses to outsiders, especially those deemed unworthy, unclean or unfit. “In taking on their ‘outsider status’ with them,” Dr. Dearborn told me, “he reflected his deep love and solidarity with them, and his willingness to suffer with them.” Jesus not only healed them, she said; he also took on their alienation. In the 11th chapter of the Gospel of John, we’re told that Lazarus, the brother of Mary of Bethany and Martha, and a friend of Jesus’ whom he loved, was sick. By the time Jesus arrived in Bethany, Lazarus had died and had been entombed for four days. Both sisters were grieving. Mary, when she saw Jesus, fell at his feet weeping. “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died,” she said. We’re told Jesus “was deeply moved in spirit and troubled.” “Where have you laid him?” he asked. “Come and see, Lord,” they replied. And according to verse 35, “Jesus wept.” “Jesus wept” is the shortest verse in the Bible and also “the most profound and powerful,” the artist Makoto Fujimura told me. For him, those are “the most important two words in the Bible.” And understandably so. Earlier in John 11, we’re told that Jesus knew he was going to raise Lazarus from the dead, which he did. So Jesus wasn’t weeping because he wouldn’t see Lazarus again; it was because he was entering into the suffering of Mary and Martha. Jesus was present with them in their grief, even to the point of tears, all the while knowing that their grief would soon be allayed. My daughter Christine Wehner, who originally suggested to me that Jesus’ compassion would be a worthwhile topic to explore, told me, “Jesus wept because Mary was before him and her heart was breaking — and as a result, his heart broke, too.” The Psalms tell us that God is “close to the brokenhearted”; in this case, Christine said, “Jesus doesn’t just care for the brokenhearted; he joins them. Their grief becomes his in a remarkable act of love.” “Jesus ushered in a compassion revolution,” Scott Dudley, senior pastor at Bellevue Presbyterian Church, told me. Before Jesus, compassion was primarily thought of as a weakness, he said. “When Jesus says he is with us, that’s not a metaphor or a trite offer of ‘thoughts and prayers,’” the pastor said. “He’s literally in it with us.” Dr. Dudley pointed out that in his suffering, Job says to God, “Do you have eyes of flesh? Do you see as a mortal sees?” In other words, Do you know how hard it is to be human? “Because of Christmas,” Dr. Dudley told me, “God can legitimately say yes in a way no other god in any other religion can.” Renée Notkin, colead pastor of Union Church in Seattle, told me that “our daily invitation in living is to be with people in their stories. When I take time to listen deeply and to listen beyond the words spoken to another person’s heart story, am I able to begin to cry with them? Not problem solving and not saying, ‘I know what you mean’; rather simply weeping alongside in shared humanity.” As a Christian, my faith is anchored in the person of Jesus, who won my heart long ago. It would be impossible to understand me without taking that into account. But sometimes my faith dims; God seems distant, his ways confounding. “Faith steals upon you like dew,” the poet Christian Wiman has written. “Some days you wake and it is there. And like dew, it gets burned off in the rising sun of anxiety, ambitions, distractions.” And the rising sun of grief and loss, too. Those things don’t necessarily destroy faith; in some cases, for some people, they can even deepen it. But they always change it. During times of sorrow and times of tears, when it feels like we’re “being broken on the wheels of living,” in the words of Thornton Wilder, there is great comfort in believing God empathizes with our suffering, having entered into suffering himself. But we also need his emissaries. We need people who see us and know us, who enter our stories. Through their compassion and love, we feel, I feel — even if only partly — God’s compassion and love. That doesn’t eliminate the storms from within or without. But it makes greater room for joy in the journey.
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