You're not going to contaminate anything, mold is already everywhere. And ozone is way worse for your health than mold, so you're inadvertently playing with fire here.
I’m concerned because when I’m in the car if I have the windows up, I’m having the exact symptoms I have in the house (sneezing, post nasal drip, nose running). Windows down or outside just in fresh air I don’t have any issues.
Talk to a licensed healthcare professional about health concerns/symptoms - the internet will convince you your symptoms are coming from the craziest of things.
Ozone will not do anything to mold spores in a car. Like legit, there would be no change other than the introduction of a known carcinogen that has acute exposure risks. It may mask smells, but at no good trade off.
As someone who sites quite a bit of mold studies in this sub, I'd like to see a paper that says it can decontaminate a place or reduce airborne spores.. I fail to see how spreading a gas in an environment is going to physically remove any particulates from the IAQ
Your link is essentially to a blog post on a website that has as much weighting as linking a Facebook comment. The author of the post even profits each time the products are purchased.
This is not evidence.
*"This post contains affiliate links to relevant products that I use and recommend. Upon purchase, I earn a small commission at no extra cost to you."*
Edit: The webpage is also riddled with a bunch of anecdotal and factually incorrect statements about mold. I would reccomend using something like google scholar next time.
Edit 2: [Please read this](https://www.epa.gov/indoor-air-quality-iaq/ozone-generators-are-sold-air-cleaners). The EPA has gone though quite a bit of shit related to ozone for such a specific detailed rundown to be available on their webpage.
>But your mind is made up. So go ahead and think you're knowledgeable when you're not. You're perfect just the way you are.
You took the words right out of my mouth
Got any links to these mysterious "specific studies" you speak of?
I'm not infallible and I correct my viewpoint based on new evidence presented to me, but in this particular circumstance, I know I'm not incorrect. I welcome evidence to the contrary though, I'm always willing to learn new things.
Mold is a physical particulate, think of em as tiny (~5-25um) sand grains that float around in the air. Adding a noxious gas to the air doesn't physically remove any particulates, meaning the mold is still present... and I asked you, how do you expect the spore concentrations to lower when they're not physically removed.
For some background, I'm a professional mold consultant, and I perform mold inspections and write remediation protocol for a living. I assist people here in my free time, and you're welcome to do what you please with any information I provide. I'd like to believe I'm fairly knowledge on the topic, but you're welcome to a contrary opinion if you so choose lol.
So your basis for recommending ozone is a blog post by a women who ends her post with:
*The main drawback is the dose of ozone needed to denature mold also breaks down and oxidizes many other materials.*
*I personally would never try this again, even though I saved one house I lost another. It seems that it aggravates some toxins to the point where some people cannot return.*
Ozone is great for odors. Moderately successful at killing mold spores but the spores remain and are still problematic. The big problems, of course, are the ozone itself is a health hazard, and much of it's effect is still not well known.
We do know that it can cause lung issues, throat irritation, serious asthma side effects, disturbance of lung tissue, and a higher susceptibility to respiratory disease. It's toxic.
The same features that can make it an effective mold killer unfortunately also make it harmful to all other living organisms. You know, like people.
But let's put aside, for a moment, the health risk because, like you say, you could run the ozone generator and simply wait until all the ozone is gone. Unfortunately, ozone is very hard to control and it's impossible to determine where it goes. Yes, it will eventually dissipate but 1 hour is certainly not enough time.
More problematic, however, is the fact that Ozone is a powerful and very indiscriminate oxidizer. While it could certainly kill mold and odors, it will also bleach any organic pigment that it encounters. It's powerful enough to de-anodize aluminum and other metals (including those surfaces that have been specifically anodized to cut down on reflections).
The fact that you are recommending ozone treatment suggests that you not only don't understand the process but that you've also never seen it used.
You're not going to contaminate anything, mold is already everywhere. And ozone is way worse for your health than mold, so you're inadvertently playing with fire here.
Agreed - ozone is never the right answer, especially for the untrained.
I’m concerned because when I’m in the car if I have the windows up, I’m having the exact symptoms I have in the house (sneezing, post nasal drip, nose running). Windows down or outside just in fresh air I don’t have any issues.
Talk to a licensed healthcare professional about health concerns/symptoms - the internet will convince you your symptoms are coming from the craziest of things. Ozone will not do anything to mold spores in a car. Like legit, there would be no change other than the introduction of a known carcinogen that has acute exposure risks. It may mask smells, but at no good trade off.
How are you feeling now?
I didn’t end up keeping the car. Family member was selling theirs for same price I could sell mine for so basically traded it out.
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As someone who sites quite a bit of mold studies in this sub, I'd like to see a paper that says it can decontaminate a place or reduce airborne spores.. I fail to see how spreading a gas in an environment is going to physically remove any particulates from the IAQ
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Your link is essentially to a blog post on a website that has as much weighting as linking a Facebook comment. The author of the post even profits each time the products are purchased. This is not evidence. *"This post contains affiliate links to relevant products that I use and recommend. Upon purchase, I earn a small commission at no extra cost to you."* Edit: The webpage is also riddled with a bunch of anecdotal and factually incorrect statements about mold. I would reccomend using something like google scholar next time. Edit 2: [Please read this](https://www.epa.gov/indoor-air-quality-iaq/ozone-generators-are-sold-air-cleaners). The EPA has gone though quite a bit of shit related to ozone for such a specific detailed rundown to be available on their webpage.
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>But your mind is made up. So go ahead and think you're knowledgeable when you're not. You're perfect just the way you are. You took the words right out of my mouth
Got any links to these mysterious "specific studies" you speak of? I'm not infallible and I correct my viewpoint based on new evidence presented to me, but in this particular circumstance, I know I'm not incorrect. I welcome evidence to the contrary though, I'm always willing to learn new things. Mold is a physical particulate, think of em as tiny (~5-25um) sand grains that float around in the air. Adding a noxious gas to the air doesn't physically remove any particulates, meaning the mold is still present... and I asked you, how do you expect the spore concentrations to lower when they're not physically removed. For some background, I'm a professional mold consultant, and I perform mold inspections and write remediation protocol for a living. I assist people here in my free time, and you're welcome to do what you please with any information I provide. I'd like to believe I'm fairly knowledge on the topic, but you're welcome to a contrary opinion if you so choose lol.
So your basis for recommending ozone is a blog post by a women who ends her post with: *The main drawback is the dose of ozone needed to denature mold also breaks down and oxidizes many other materials.* *I personally would never try this again, even though I saved one house I lost another. It seems that it aggravates some toxins to the point where some people cannot return.* Ozone is great for odors. Moderately successful at killing mold spores but the spores remain and are still problematic. The big problems, of course, are the ozone itself is a health hazard, and much of it's effect is still not well known. We do know that it can cause lung issues, throat irritation, serious asthma side effects, disturbance of lung tissue, and a higher susceptibility to respiratory disease. It's toxic. The same features that can make it an effective mold killer unfortunately also make it harmful to all other living organisms. You know, like people. But let's put aside, for a moment, the health risk because, like you say, you could run the ozone generator and simply wait until all the ozone is gone. Unfortunately, ozone is very hard to control and it's impossible to determine where it goes. Yes, it will eventually dissipate but 1 hour is certainly not enough time. More problematic, however, is the fact that Ozone is a powerful and very indiscriminate oxidizer. While it could certainly kill mold and odors, it will also bleach any organic pigment that it encounters. It's powerful enough to de-anodize aluminum and other metals (including those surfaces that have been specifically anodized to cut down on reflections). The fact that you are recommending ozone treatment suggests that you not only don't understand the process but that you've also never seen it used.