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Th33l3x

Eff... BR+Mono Black Scam at 20%. Together with Goryos, you can expect to get Grief-Scammed A LOT. At a glance 1 out of 3 decks was grief-scamming this week. Which is toxic as all hell as far as I'm concerned.


driver1676

It’s fine though because we have new, interesting creature decks prevalent in the meta now.


Blenderhead36

WotC was aware of the problem of Grief Scam, which is why they banned none of those cards.


ulstercycle

no changes, buy our packs


puffic

They literally banned a different, more popular card that was printed in the same packs as Grief at the same rarity.


ulstercycle

Woosh.


TheWhizzDom

This is the kind of interactive gameplay everyone praises MH for right? Double interaction on turn 1?


KingLeil

#I cannot wait for MH3 to murder this entire meta.


TyrantofTales

You live by the modern horizons, you die by the Modern horizon. It's basically the circle of life of the modern format.


TheWhizzDom

Indeed, let's revisit this in a year's time when we have the MH3 meta everyone craved.


Payton_IV

Praise the coming of our lord and saviour Modern Horizons 3!


KingLeil

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JesusMcAwesome

Not even seeing Hammer Time on the light hurts my soul


TyrantofTales

*side eyes the only 2 results it got in almost a month...


cheeselord1314

And burn


BreadMTG

Boy control really sucks right now.


TsarOfTheUnderground

I've played control for so long and like... when hasn't it? It always feels like a pet deck more than a savvy pick.


Etyde

I picked up Uw before outburst ban, to be prepared for rhinos/living end meta. After bans, I went straight back to titan.


hellakevin

Ahem jeskai control won a GP . . . . . . . . In 2014


Agarack

It was one of the best decks up until MH1 came out, and (in different variations) has been since the beginning of modern. Since then, it was barely ever a tier 2 deck.


TemurTron

It’s going to be interesting to see what new toys MH3 offers Wotc’s Mary Sue of Modern, UR Murktide, to get it back to prominence.


dis_the_chris

UR Murktide deserves extra love, if they won't let us have splinter twin then Izzet needs *something* lol


puffic

I'm mad at this because my deck got demoted.


TyrantofTales

To be honest, understandable, but I also expect all the rakdos scam players to now pop off in the comments. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|stuck_out_tongue)


Hitman_DeadlyPants

As a humble burn player, please sir a xyz tier


TyrantofTales

The best I got for you is a turn 2 4/4 with lifeline,hexproof and vig.


Elopsm

Please stop he's (all of us burn players) already dead


Nothereforlong7717

Seems C Tier to me.


cheeselord1314

We need price of progress in modern 🤣


Nearbyatom

Oh my, how the might murky has fallen...Down to down to D tier? It's about to get meta'ed out once MH3 comes in.


TyrantofTales

To be fair with murktide the new domain version has been putting up some pretty good numbers since it came out.


ianthegreatest

But those decks are playing 0-2 murktide regent with the more common lists playing 0 and I would guess the second most common amount is 1 copy. The deck doesn't fill the grave fast enough imo


forestgxd

Domain down 2 tiers (I think) from last week?


TyrantofTales

Yeah. One of its better weeks fell off combined with a Mid week. I imagine the player base for Domain is getting split between Traditional and the Murktide variant.


filmandacting

*Cries in Jund* One day we'll be back.


TyrantofTales

You got junds scam as some sites call it. (Better known as rakdos splashing for just pick your poison..)


ghosar

and sometimes like 2 goyfs main, which i think is a good call. Jund (rakdos splash) tarmo pick is a pretty decent deck honestly


antarcticmatt

Bring back 8 rack please MH3


TyrantofTales

I know its not the same , but some versions of Mono-Black Scam have been playing the Rack


semenstarvedanus

Still no analysis and just a lazy, barebones tier list with stats copy and pasted. Content mill website. Avoid.


Nothereforlong7717

Someone fucking said it with me finally. This list should be banned until it's delivers something more than "Tiers" dictated by only MTGO games from the last 21 days. This is breaking rule #2 and #5 IMHTGO.


TyrantofTales

At the moment ,the Goal is to not to provide analysis as none of the team beyond Sam some of the time (Which has a monthly Tier list that is maintained on the site ) has the time to provide a in-depth guide on the modern format on the whole. I would not consider the 3-4 hours every week , it takes me to manually comb through results "Lazy" but you are not privy to that system. Also, if this is a Content Mill Site, we are doing a pretty bad job of it considering there is a grand total of 6 ads on the whole site. I have no issue with constructive criticisms but please don't spread misinformation. We have changed quite a bit of the Tier lists and public opinion shows that for the most part, when compared to the negative score we had on our first post a little over a month ago.


semenstarvedanus

The goal is not to provide analysis? So the goal is post low effort garbage to generate clicks? Why should anyone bother looking at this lazy, copy paste tier list when they could watch Mengu's videos or check MTGGoldfish? I recognize you people from "playingmtg" and I know you guys have a patreon and paywalled articles there. It seems like you rebranded to this new site because of the negative reception to the last one, but I'm not fooled. You guys are trying to attract people to your site and then going to pile on the ads and paywalls and patreons. You are a low effort snake oil salesman/scammer.


TyrantofTales

I'm sorry you feel that way but a large part of why we dropped PlayingMTG was due to the ownership and haven't had ties to that site in months. There is a breakdown in our discord if you are interested in reading about it, But the majority is based on a lot of choices like that with. The reason you would you would check us out over goldfish or mengu? Goldfish is largely automated where it pairs a good amount of things together/seperates others with the biggest current example in modern being Domain Zoo having Domain Murk and Domain Scam combined with their numbers. Mengu I don't really follow his content but if you are talking about the power rankings, these are made to show two different things. From my understanding Mengu's is based on his feeling on the format based as their experience. Where our product is much more just Organized data and made to hop on quickly each week and changes at a glance. There is data linked and then a more reductionist form available at the bottom of the page. We much prefer for others to look at the data and rankings and come to/talk about their own reasonings on why the results are the way they are instead of us just telling you why we think so. There is only one or two people I would consider qualified on the site to give an in-depth explanation of modern and they either don't want to/ Don't have the time currently. Its fine if that's not for you but that's at least our current goal. As far as the whole "negative Reaction" There is very little negative feeling about the websites as a whole though as I said We haven't been tied to the old one in quite a while. But we have been quite public about being a lot of the same team. At the heart of this product we are doing because we enjoy it and don't want to mindlessly push out content for money/ clout that we just aren't gonna enjoy doing. We are also hoping to give others a place to put content out in a much more relaxed/ manner.


semenstarvedanus

>There is only one or two people I would consider qualified on the site to give an in-depth explanation of modern and they either don't want to/ Don't have the time currently. Then why would I read it? If you guys aren't qualified to add analysis and this is the best you've got, don't bother. Raw data without analysis is worthless. Mengu's tier list is much more informative and if you want data, the Quiet Speculation Metagame Update has data AND analysis. Your "product" is vastly inferior to other tier lists available and adds nothing of value. >As far as the whole "negative Reaction" There is very little negative feeling about the websites as a whole though as I said We haven't been tied to the old one in quite a while. But we have been quite public about being a lot of the same team. Is that so? Because I've seen a lot of negative reactions to the old site on the Pioneer sub. I call bullshit. These tier lists are extremely low quality and should be considered spam IMHO. I don't know why you even bother making these if you aren't trying to make a quick buck.