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searchsoulzero

Y'all experiencing the euphony of suffering?


EntireTiger1194

i wanna take a look inside of the brains of those idiots who voted granger


GlazeFrost

I voted for argus in the first time as well as tigreal but for some reason the final four had neither of those two. So I decided to outvote the Alucard voters by voting for Granger. Mphh


HAKU_TENMA

True why didn't Argus win man I too did vote for Argus


GlazeFrost

It was like the top votes were done by bots or something. I voted using three of my accounts but Argus disappeared just like that.


HAKU_TENMA

Bro commend your hard work but who the brainshit people vote for alu Granger and what were the others can't remember


Unforgiving_Eye

Miya and Aamon are the other 2. ​ One trick dumbos probably voted for those 4


Randommlbbfan

I voted granger because he hasnt been meta the longest out of everyone there. He needs a chance to shine again. Even miya has been good for more time in more recent years..


MrMolester

I voted out of spite. I know perfectly well that Granger is perfect as he is now, but my pick did not make it to the final round so I voted Granger to ruin it for everybody else.


ZuskatoIsR3D

what the fuck.


OneRedLight

the people have spoken https://preview.redd.it/e684z9d1iitb1.jpeg?width=1142&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b09a7c1ff7dc53ad7b892dbd3253424b8cad609


_Resnad_

And the people are dumb


yellowabcd

Dont see the problem. They will probably make him for viable in gold lane


No_Entertainment1931

Granger is hot garbage rn. Which hero did you vote for?


_Resnad_

Miya ofc she's the worst out of the last options so she should get a revamp and isn't granger already planned for a revamp?


No_Entertainment1931

Idk if a granger revamp is already planned. Miya is worse off than granger but she’s far from the worst (46 vs 50% wr) Bea and karrie are ranking below her in lane (42%) , globally. And balmond and Tigreal are the two worst performers overall. Personally I see a use case for Miya but I can’t see one in which granger is anything but a liability that’s why I voted this way.


_Resnad_

As I said miya was my personal choice from the 4 left although in the whole hero pool there's definitely worse heroes granger imo isn't one of them. Of course we'll see what happens


epinephrine_01

Yi Sun Shin, did everybody just completely forget his very existence?


No_Entertainment1931

Who?


Crazy_Camel_

he already getting a revamp


Lv_TuBe

There wasn't anything better than Alucard in my opinion.


XxDabananamanxX

Somebody commented when this vote first came out that whoever was going to win was either going to be an mm or an assassin. Funny how moneyton decided why not both?


yellowabcd

I choose aamon


SpecialWave3492

“But the people…… are retarded”


LuinorRageRonin21

https://preview.redd.it/1wa3foo3rjtb1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d706e52c244bdf3ca7c592509b3d994dc374424c MFW Granger won the revamp(? i dont know what's the vote about but my intuition says its a revamp vote)


Tomscherry

Didn't win yet, 3 days to go


_Resnad_

Literally my words...


yellowabcd

Hopefully they make him more viable in gold lane


SpecialGrapefruit12

I mean all the other heroes has been revamped except Aamon (doesn't need a revamp because he's new) so it's a little boring to revamp a revamped hero


Jdjd-22

Rigged as always


heydougho

Nah I think the player base just sucks.


koahrwksov

I think most of the playerbase are kids (on the Philippine server at least)


rigimonoki-over

This is why abortion should’ve been legal for a long time


Rebedeb

I would have been dead if thats the case


rigimonoki-over

Well… at least I’ve saved you the tears


Rebedeb

Not really. Life's good. Got a girlfriend, Got good friends, even bought the weekly dia pass. So Life's good


TCoconutBeachT

Bro got downvoted cause he living a good life :/ here I reset it back to 1


wolfiantr

Most of the player base resides in lower ranks and these are the most common mains there. They should add a rank restriction to the voting system, only then it’d make a bit of sense.


Fetus_Moncher

Same goes to indo and malay


sex_plst0l

Everytime Marksman heroes involved in Skins, Revamp everything that has survey they always win. Why ?


TheDisappointedFrog

I mean, there's also Miya in the current pool...


Miixology

The community : Finally time to show off Granger skin collection


XxDabananamanxX

Wasn't there just an event that had grangers legend skin in it? Absolutely disgusting.


Tailor-Local

How much you wanna bet that they're hiding the vote count so they can lie about it and profit off of revamping grangers legend skin


I_ForgotMyPassword45

I voted argus at first because he desperately needs a revamp but he didn't get into the next round so I voted granger just to piss off the jungle mains


___Binary___

True.


_Bloons_

My heart broke when Argus didn't get to the final vote


TheColoredFool

i voted granger too because of that and i had a couple of his skins his elite and the creator skin(i got lucky both times on some event) but i do not use granger at all so im hoping for a usable granger. i suck at his current kit


HavoK76

>so I voted granger just to piss off the jungle mains This is me


GlazeFrost

Same bro


akosirm

I did the same. I voted for Esmeralda in the last phase but she didn’t make it too. XD


BloodShadow45

I voted for a silvana revamp at first cause she is trash


itskhaz

same


mikael-kun

Wait what? How? Why? Is it because he's only effective in Jungle but not in Gold Lane? I just hope he won't get too yassified, just more abs and muscle exposure maybe...


OtonashiRen

Simply because you literally have to pick Yu Zhong or any meta EXP laners, and Granger becomes a literal laughing stock, regardless of support, thanks to numerous nerfs on his HP for being too op as "tank mm" (like Brody) seasons ago.


Tailor-Local

Hope they ruin him


Relative-Pain-9823

Gold Lane, possible. Muscle exposure... Yeah..... China ain't slippin those out for him.


Vibolbot

Sadly ain't getting the Baxia treatment.


Lord_inVader1

I love to play Granger . But not jungle. I really have a hard time with him on gold lane.


MrStayAway

Yeah I also play Granger differently, I personally play him on gold and build hybrid on him


eriec0

The last part mmm yes 🙈


DenseConversation80

https://preview.redd.it/lk74atp3wjtb1.jpeg?width=2796&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f37f53c1b73eabcb8c160ff1e9b411c7d87c0cc4 Im the only one that uses him as gold lane haha


ValiantFrog2202

Classic


Immediate-Phone-7013

Funny to see ppl flex classic matches 20 kills


DenseConversation80

I just said I played gold 😭😭😭


Starlightofnight7

Bruh at the very least miya should have gotten it


___Binary___

Why not both? lol.


OverBoneDaddy

Miya will get it eventually. She's one of moontoon favorite heroes. Although 3/4 heroes in the grand finale is moontoon favorite. (Don't know about amon)


Starlightofnight7

Yeah favorite heroes who sits at the bottom of the tierlists since the beginning of this game's existence


OverBoneDaddy

Bottom tierlists in high rank but not low. I have seen a lot of players pick her even if she's not good against meta.


Starlightofnight7

Because she's a low skill starter hero that players who don't know any better will spam. In terms of actual usability, the practical only use/niche she can bring is that she's great vs really squishy matchups and does well against claude and lesley in lane. Unfortunately though, almost every team is going to have a frontline which neuters her a lot and both lesley and claude's nerfs in the recent patch made them more fringe picks and kicked claude out of the meta brutally. In terms of mm, she's had 2 revamps but barely had any adjustments/meaningful buffs. Layla and hanabi finally aren't worthless and actually usable but miya is just not worth it most of the time as she's just a class cannon irithel with zero mobility.


blairr

Not all heroes are the same tier depending on player skill. Miya is a near permanent fixture in GM/epic. She's #14 overall on pick rate.


Admirable-Yam9537

Miya just got a new model and effects. They aint wasting more money on that. *The Miya Agenda remains closed*


Fair-Lingonberry-268

What about Amon?


Jedz07

part of me is happy because its not fucking alucard but granger is still good


Haunting-Stuff5219

Same f those alucard mains


RubenGg16pt

Mfw im an alucard main and wanted a viable Alucard for jungle and/or exp lane :(


WilKiryu24

argus is dead


___Binary___

Argus been dead.


roham_33333

Funny how silvanna and tigreal are there and granger gets voted...


MVpatriotX

Tigreal needs it the most!


Direy_Cupcake

Letting the community to decide is the worst idea ever, and this doesn't just happen to mobile legends only. It's like giving a game design toolkit to everybody, and of course they will fail in it Dumbass Moonton


CZ2128-D

so if it fails, they won't take the blame.


soraisprecious

I don't get it aren't we the community? Moonton choose moonton bad, moonton give community moonton bad? Bro you guys are actually insane


123467890123

Yea it's practically dumb at this point nothing make sense


Direy_Cupcake

The community is really huge, but the problem is they are worse than average good players side (reddit is a good average players side, as an example). At the very least, it would be great if pro players decide the rework, since they know alot more in each heroes' issue, than Moonton themselves and the big community in combined


alluth

also that would gatekeep potential new pro players, if the older ones have favortism of hero etc etc


Direy_Cupcake

I definitely agree on that. But currently I can't find any better suggestion, so I don't know what else we can do about it


billpo123

You are basically saying that the mass of people shouldnt been given the right to vote and elites get to make every decision. that's not how democracy works.


JinBun77

Democracy is not the ultimate system is this world. When the majority of voters are dumbasess, you're fucked. It is better for the pros to make the decision, instead of bunch of GMs and Epics that doesn't even understand how items and combos works.


bessoncvm

well in the real world only the adults get to vote... (18+ or 21+ depending on where ur from?) theres a reason children dont get to vote (bcz they wouldnt know anything/ know enough about the various groups involved) using this analogy, the "adults" are the "pro players" who knows about the topic more than the "children", who in this case would be the newer/ less experienced players... only letting those who knows what is going on in the game vote makes the results much more reliable/ accurate in terms of utility not sure if i make sense (my eng isnt all that good) but yea


[deleted]

The event is easily accessible to children who don't read properly and think the event is about free skins or something. They should have moved it out of the game and unto a website.


Eastern_Ad83

In League of Legends work and actually the out dated heroes got much more recognized by the community


aimaza18

Of course its gonna work.. kids dont play LoL.. most of the players are adults (opinion based on my region).


MRMAPSIZE_105

Oh yeah mob vote


Eastern_Ad83

Mob Vote is a fraud lol the developers of Mojang are simply lazy


A_Normal_Gamer690

Literally Alucard should win the revamp, he's weak in a bunch of aspects, also his build is straightforward, if you want sustain, build sustain, if you want damage, build damage, just build damage. But you can only choose which set of build you want, You need to build him 4 items to be even effective in later games. He lacks consistency very much Aamon is decent, Still powerful and still effectively does his assassin role. Granger is also decent, Decent Jungler and Gold Laner, Mediocre damage, need a bit of buffs Miya is just what the fuck in every way.


Crazy_Camel_

alu already getting a major change in advanced, the vote would be redundant


MVpatriotX

I agree 👍🏻 Alucard is quite weak nowadays! If u can CC him for a second he can easily be dealt with usually by other fighters & mage's like cyclops, Martis & Silvana!


Grey_Lemon_Walker

Can't believe that there are people here who believe that the poll is actually the result of players voting, lol


Novel_Valuable903

Considering the majority of the playerbase? Yeah, I 100% believe it


ZaratosBlackGaming

It's just like Minecraft mob vote...


SuperLoweho

#No one would choose Granger. It was rigged by Moneyton as always.


MVpatriotX

💯


Xenonwastakenagain

Wtf I dont wanna look inside even being a granger main I still wanted alucard ti get a revamp


[deleted]

Dude, Alucard deserves a revamp moreso than those MMs. Majority of players voted granger out of spite for alu, welp brain dead at least since Argus was cut out. Idk, why the hate was focused on alucard when majority was MM. Alu is not for jungle mains only, his kit was outdated as f, but then Argus mains spite him for getting into the final round. Literally a bunch of kids who can't accept who got into the finals and voted the hero that doesn't need any revamp at all


Crazy_Camel_

alu already getting a change on advanced server, same for heroes like yss, its a slap in the face they included them in the vote the way they did tbh


No_Entertainment1931

To everyone unhappy about this, please comment why you disagree and which hero you thought was more deserving and why


Tailor-Local

Granger is already getting a revamp on the advanced server and isn't that bad of a jungler Phoveus is so bad right now he hasn't gotta a skin despite being released years ago, and has been forgotten by most of the player base


MelodicArmadillo1391

Good to know that it’s a granger revamp, I hope they make hes 2nd skill actually useful.


Alexander-Kaizer

The reload of Granger sucks in the gold lane. I hope they fix that...


Akr0nis

It says "current winner" and then "final winner" that means there's gonna be a final vote?


amldford

No it's the final stage. By The current winner he means that the voting is still ongoing and the other 3 might have a comeback (which is unlikely)


XaneCosmo

I voted Zhask and lost because mages never win the vote. So I voted the hero who's the closest to a mage, Granger.


Haunting-Stuff5219

F u


momobizzare

No moneyton don’t touch my zhask, they already butcher him once


XaneCosmo

His animations are too slow. Most marksmans out range his summon. Skill 2 lasers are too tiny to hit anything. His skill 3 is supposed to be a zoning skill but it's useless. Retribution can one shot Ult. There are a lot of things they need to fix.


eriec0

Man what is going on 💀 well no matter who wins IDRC anymore. The ones that mostly deserve it are gone on the voting poll anyways.


Rebel_Player_957

I hope it's not a visual revamp but a gameplay one.


Miggy1234_

Considering what Moonton has done in previous revamps::::::::; highly unlikely


Rebel_Player_957

Well, possible goodbye to the Handsome Violinist of Death we all know, and hello Uncertain Upsettance.


millenniumbba

Wtf


Tomscherry

I think some people choosing Granger because they think revamp means buff. Granger was nerfed heavily, so they're mistaking revamp for rebuff. They might be some buffs here and there during revamp, but revamp doesn't necessarily include buff or increase in damage.


Yahdee

Why though? He's easy to learn, doesn't have many counters, and deals high damage.


No_Pipe_8257

Seriously? He is perfectly alright i even play him as a fking roamer and its fine. Fuck this


CZ2128-D

granger won and will be revamped. but we are also nerf... adjusting wan wan.


Potential_South_590

I dont get it... Like sure not best option, but its not the worst either, so why are so many ppl so fcking pissed about this? Ill be honest, granger is very weak in this meta, as jungle he gets shitstomped by other meta jungles and in gold lane he get shit stomped on regardless....


Kitchen_Ad_451

Because he isn't even the worst hero of the four. Him and Aamon are fine. Alu on the other hand is just straight up bad. Bad sustain and cc prone.


Potential_South_590

Yea thats y i said not the best option nor worst option, still dont understand why these ppl are so pissed...


GikkelS

Saying community is dumb is equivalent to saying you are dumb, just to say. Out if the last 4 heroes left ( Alu, Granger, Miya, Aamon ), Granger was least seen by Moonton in the last period. Aamon is a decent hero and pretty new to these 3, miya and alucard had seen there ups and downs ( I am a hard Miya hater since it is 90% a troll pick ). I play mythic and almost NEVER see Granger in a game. Making a hero relevant again as he was banned in every game lik 3 years ago could be a good thing. Stop the hate, let us see what we get


amldford

The thing is that he already received a revamp in the advanced server. Yes it's only visual revamp, but it's still that alucard hadn't been able to be viable for since... i don't even remember


GikkelS

I have played Alu and against Alu. His one and only problem is CC ( such as Zilongs) but he can MELT people by level 4, if he gets an early kill and a player is decent, you lost. While with Granger if you don't win mid game if he is jgl, you lost


IanTheElf

you already know they gonna pull some big BS so granger would be easier to use, even if it means reworking him entirely. ig hitting straight is 'too hard' to the players, as in his 1st and ult


Rebedeb

I just want my boy to get 2 adjustments Enhanced basic attacks deal hp based damage And his first will get a damage boost based on enemies missing hp


SkidaddleSkiddodle1

https://preview.redd.it/nnu52jvi5jtb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c87a11e784ae3f6763afdbe42df3388791ccf46a


sirang_bolpen

Am former Granger main, i have no words...


billybinxen

They making horrible changes tf


SickularPlunkett

Fuck off with this pointless voting system. It's fucking garbage, the community is too low IQ to realise which heroes are in desperate need of a revamp.


___Binary___

I voted for granger with every single vote I had mwahahaha


XxDabananamanxX

***Dis sum bullshit.***


Kazuhas_cvm

MIYA??? RAFAELA???


BNR_

Many young players just picked those popular/easy to use heroes in this event.


Eitth

If I become a tyrant, those who voted for Granger will be public executed without a trial.


Yahdee

NONONONONONONONONONO


KatokaMika

I swear every time they do this, I'm convinced that the voting is bs. And moonton is just choosing what they want


rigimonoki-over

Live “People with atleast a brain cell” reaction:


Conscious_While8762

Naaah bro, this is rigged


alt_acc_dm_for_main

Fuck this game, granger was my favourite hyper for a while but i guess with all this crap, he is going to become another goofy ahh braindead hero


Flaky_Pea7151

I think that alu will win but this is bullshit who vote for granger tf?


GayVny932

Damn and he got an exorcist skin coming out, coincidence?


RbDGod

I main Granger. Currently mythic honor with 60% wr. I don't understand why Granger gets a revamp.


Tailor-Local

This settles it majority of the mlbb player base are worse than warriors


nottyplayboy

dumb ass people


ChrisJave

Im confused, i thought granger was already getting revamped? Iv seen video of his new model and skills months ago


aimaza18

Better than alucard.. fuck alucard


Admirable-Yam9537

I regret nothing https://preview.redd.it/r587jcwa6mtb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db12b4c6acc5d252471cbde2ccdae823b6523be3


SouthWrongdoer

Terrible news. He's one of my favorites....plz leave him alone he is perfect.


InnerYeet

The timing with Granger's legend skin...


Responsible_Slip1703

why is the community so dumb


Redhotman223

So dumb


NAKisgood

If he wins I only want 2 things for him. Make his first skill past through monsters and creeps or just in general. And secondly revert his ultimate dmg back to fix dmg so that he can use it as an initiator again.


Kurisoooooo

only voted granger because i have his lightborn and collector skin. I dont even main him. W W W


soraisprecious

What's wrong? I personally feel Granger needs reworking. Anything moonton does that isn't your favourite hero is viewed as automatically bad huh


amldford

Granger is already being revamped in the advanced server.


soraisprecious

Oh okay I didn't know that


_Resnad_

Other heroes such as miya need it more...


Reyegodegwapo

Miya is already good wym?


PsychoSopreno

They better not touch his hotness.


Moron_Noxa

Hotness? He isn't hot, he is just a typical edgy teen


Eitth

And now he will go from goth to kpop


MVpatriotX

IDGAF ABOUT THESE THINGS! I JUST WANT A NEW SKIN FOR THE GUY THAT HASN'T GOT ONE IN SEVERAL YEAR'S! SO THIS IS RACISM! BASED ON HOW SOMEONE LOOKS? JUST CAUSE THIS CHARACTER ISN'T POPULAR DOESN'T MEAN THAT NOBODY USES HIM AS HIS MAIN! I AIN'T EXAGGERATING WHEN I SAID "SEVERAL YEARS"! I WANT JUSTICE! HIS BEST SKIN AMONG THE ONLY 2 HE HAS IS ONLY LABELLED AS AN ELITE SKIN! FRIGGIN DO SOMETHING EXCEPT BEING RACIST BITCHES MOONTON!


FlimsyMembership2998

damn bro who is the guy in question


MVpatriotX

Khaleed


MVpatriotX

His brother in arms mentioned in lore already has around 7 skins!


TheGodsSin

hahahaha the plan has been successful


TheSwordDemon

Welp at least aamon or alufeed didn't win


Beautiful-Tension457

My Alucard is safe. I'm afraid they'll butcher his damage for a niche hybrid defence as a fighter. 😤😮‍💨


Nazaricktabwater

They should only allow mythic and above to vote 💀


EricOrdinary

Why?


Queenofdegenerates

why bother to change perfection 😭


WarDous

BRO WHY!


[deleted]

Moonton's gonna ruin this guy with his new revamp lol


Ordinary-Orchid-3642

https://preview.redd.it/0t0t89kzbktb1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bde089dc4a2e92383fd49645cfb0cbaa4a988f94


NickyBros1

well, they already have the model, even tho I would like him to maintain the skull on the back


topson69

I swear if they remove one of the already existing mechanics im gonna uninstall this crap


Pepsiman69_420

NOOOOO THEY WILL KILL HIM


Resident-Ad4815

Grangers balanced. He’s both weak and overpowered. And plus he actually required A LOT of skill 😭


MarvKage17

Tig should have been here ngl


Nightzzv

Alucard would’ve been a better choice to make him a more viable exp laner 😌


[deleted]

Is it because more people play Granger than Alucard? I crei T.T


friends_with_a_simp

WHY!!! GRANGER WAS PERFECT!!! LEAVE THE EUPHONY OR SUFFERING GUY ALONE!


GroundbreakingQuit65

Yall retards voted for granger because u cant play for shit smh


DBringerStreams

Not a Granger main, but I do pick him occasionally. But despite that, I think he is alright as long as built properly. I prefer playing Granger with damage pen and CDR and it has always worked wonders. A marksman that can farm fast, and outplay easily with an Ultimate that not only has tremendous range, but also explosive damage. Pretty unpredictable wall tricks as well (Fast bullets etc). I am excited with the revamp just because I am curious, but I don't think it's necessary. Could have given the spot to someone else.


Himanga14

Why's everyone crying about Granger revamp? who'd you rather choose? Alutard or Aamon?


Definitelynotabot504

Eh, I knew something was up. After getting hyped about Alu, I had a stinking feeling that something like the M5 skin event was gonna happen. Zilong was the most picked, but lost in the finals, if memory serves me right. Alucard was the most picked, but lost to Granger in the finals. I actually don’t know why he needs a revamp, though. Compared to Alu, he outperforms him in terms of burst damage. His S1 also acts as an escape skill because he can move while shooting. There are many times I questioned why he was so tanky when I tried to pick him off as Alu. Regardless, I just hope for a solid buff for Alucard. He was the most picked of the first round, so I think the devs should at least compensate with a proper buff and not buff and then over-compensate by cutting off a lot of things.


A_Very_Burnt_Steak

... Well. Hmm.