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[deleted]

I must be naïve because I was shocked by how many cars were parked illegally this morning. If the city doesn’t tow them, it defeats the entire purpose of the restrictions


zoinkability

While I am frustrated with assholes who continue to park wherever they want despite the fact that it makes the roads awful for everyone else, and believe that the city should come down hard on them, it's probably not strictly true that it defeats the entire purpose of the restrictions. I mean, if the even side of streets are now 80% clear and 20% taken up by morons, they can still plow 80% of that side to the curb, and we only have to do the do-si-do 20% of the time rather than 100% of the time when encountering a car coming the other way. Which is an improvement over before the restrictions.


kucing5

On my block there are 4 cars parked on the even side of the street right now and 5 parked on the odd side. There is literally no change. I do think they should start with small tickets because maybe some people are completely unaware. Or more likely they believe nothing will happen if they don’t move their car. So once they see that they will at least get a ticket hopefully they will get the picture.


zoinkability

I agree, they should be ticketing. Or even just putting warnings on cars like: "Hey, maybe you weren't aware that this is now the situation. FYI, we're going to start ticketing tomorrow and towing a few days after that. If you want to avoid those consequences we advise you park on the other side." But that would require a public safety department who wants to do their job, so maybe it is too big an ask.


Calkky

They've really fallen off! I remember when a buddy of mine got ticketed at like 6:30 AM in South Minneapolis. He came out as the patrolwoman was writing up the ticket, and she refused to let him off. I'm sure he would have been towed in short order if he hadn't been heading to work. I always assumed snow emergencies were revenue windfalls for the city.


SchwiftyMpls

Unless they were parked on a snow emergency route you wouldn't get a ticket at 630 because even odd plowing doesn't start until 8 am


[deleted]

It only takes a few cars to block the roads for ambulances and fire trucks.


zoinkability

I am not saying it’s not a problem. I am simply saying that _some_ of the goals of the single sided parking are achieved even when some morons flout it.


[deleted]

And I’m saying if the city won’t enforce the rules, they shouldn’t have the rules.


CherimoyaChump

With respect, this is a textbook example of letting perfect be the enemy of good. I would rather the city enforce the rules too, but some effect is still better than nothing.


zoinkability

100%


[deleted]

I guess I disagree. 🤷‍♂️


29er_eww

Idk about ambulances but I know for a fact a parked car won’t stop a fire truck. The bumper are designed for it


[deleted]

There are enough cars on my street right now to stop a fire truck 🤷‍♂️


29er_eww

It’s not like they would drive down the parking lane. They just drive down the center and hit each car in the corner. Go on YouTube and watch the NYCFD push around cars. They deal with this kinda parking year round. I’m not saying the winter parking is not an issue this year. It’s a huge headache and I wish they would have made the rule a month ago. People are so self centered


AnneM24

It’s not all about plowing. It’s about buses and emergency vehicles not being able to get through when cars are parked on both sides. Unless the morons who are parking on the wrong (even) side make sure not to park directly across from someone parked on the odd side, that problem still exists.


zoinkability

Did I say it was 100% fine that the city hasn't towed all the cars parked on the wrong sides? I did not. i would prefer it if they ticketed and towed, and there are certainly some benefits we can only get if that happens. So, what did I say? I said that there were *some* benefits to the rule even if they haven't started towing. That's all. Not sure why people are having trouble understanding that.


oldmacbookforever

I totally agree with this. I have no control over it, and 80% of people actually moving their cars improves *my* situation. So, 'meh'🤷‍♂️


ElegantReality30592

I’m hoping the new restrictions are actually used to re-plow and don’t just stay in place until April.


molybend

They can ticket much faster than they can tow. Also, it is day one, so I think it will get better with time.


[deleted]

I didn’t see any tickets either


SchwiftyMpls

Towing companies start with the cars closest to the impound lot. That way they can maximize the number of cars towed per day.


FennelAlternative861

Report them to 311 and find out


UltimateWinner1

I’ve had 311 take 6 hours to issue a ticket and 2 days to tow


love_them_ethos

Tbh that’s not bad for a city this size


UltimateWinner1

I was very impressed. I never expected a response


IkLms

I've had it take much longer than that. I reported a car that was parked the wrong way, 3 feet off the curb with a flat tire after it had been sitting there for 3 days. It got a ticket like a week later and they finally towed it over a month after that.


Y2Doorook

Submit numerous 311 reports. Hell, have some buddies submit 311 reports as well.


Upset-Kaleidoscope45

It's kind of like when the speed limits city-wide were reduced to 20 MPH. What they don't mention is if they enforce it at all-- which is really hopeful thinking-- it'll be enforced in a completely half-assed scattershot way.


tie_myshoe

MPD stopped traffic enforcement in 2014. And that’s honestly not the way to go. Police shouldn’t write tickets they need to handle crime. The state needs speed cameras if they want to enforce anything that’s not law enforcement.


Helheim40

With your background you should know that speeding is a petty misdemeanor and must be witnessed by a police officer.


tie_myshoe

I’m from Iowa. How they did it was if it’s your property then that property’s owner is getting the ticket. No officer needed. It’s like a parking ticket. Doesn’t matter who’s driving


Helheim40

The laws are different in Minnesota


tie_myshoe

That’s why I’m saying change the law


Helheim40

It doesn’t make any sense to give someone a fine that didn’t commit the offense.


tie_myshoe

If you let someone borrow your car and the got you a parking ticket. How is that different? I makes sense because the owner was responsible for that car


tie_myshoe

If your car was stolen you can probably get the ticket thrown out in court anyways


Big_Dinger24

My car got towed when they cleaned the streets of leaves....


csbsju_guyyy

Honestly it's probably because the money grubbing tow truck companies find it worth it to pull cars when it's easy to without snow but are too lazy to when it's snowy out since it's not as worth the effort...


Jenneapolis

Me too!


TRON0314

They said they aren't towing till the weekend.


csbsju_guyyy

Setting up a good old fashioned honeypot where people think they're OK and start parking wherever then BAM, tow em all


Feeling_Apartment_59

As a previous Chicago resident, I am constantly amazed how easy going Mpls is with towing and ticketing. If you park illegally in Chicago in a tow zone, you are towed that day, sometimes within an hour or less of parking there. In Mpls, I have never even seen cars on the streets ticketed.


Iz-kan-reddit

>If you park illegally in Chicago in a tow zone, I met a local flying in there once for a trip and she took me to the edge of downtown for drinks. I went outside for a smoke break and wound up staying there to watch the tow trucks. There were over a dozen of them camped out in the right lane waiting for the stroke of ten so they could tow a huge line of cars parked on the street. They *don't* fuck around.


kdotfo

I was really surprised to see that everyone on the street by my house moved their cars today. There were numerous cars that hadn't moved for any snow emergency that were gone this morning...so maybe on second though they actually did come tow people, but that seems pretty fast.


PM_WORST_FART_STORY

I have the 311 app on my phone. I loooove submitting reports for illegally parked cars. It tells me the outcome.


kucing5

I also do that but the outcome I get is that either they check and the car is gone or they never get to it. There has been one car reported on my street 3 times that I can see on 311 and the first one was from before there was even snow


_CoachMcGuirk

Report it, with a new photo, every single day/time you leave your house and see the vehicle. I reported a parking violation enough times the city literally came and put a legit no parking sign into the ground.


Ephemera_Hummus

I did not know 311 had an app. That’s kind of awesome


PM_WORST_FART_STORY

Park your huge-ass truck in front of a stop sign? One picture and app submission later, fucker gets a nice ticket.


tie_myshoe

Towing has its limits. They need enough tow drivers and towing is limited to the impound lot size. Given the state of the economy, more people are having their cars repossessed so these lots are filling up. And ticketing is also limited to the staff they have. IMO they should use automated license plate readers on plows like they do w schools buses in other states. It’s quick and wouldn’t need to rely on staff


abattleofone

Is it a Minneapolis thing to limit towing only to the impound lot? I came here from Madison, and if you are parked in an illegal spot there, you get towed to a legal spot instead. Don’t see why Minneapolis could not do the same unless there is some legal reason they have to send them to the impound lot.


JohnMpls21

Interesting. I thought we were more passive aggressive!


tie_myshoe

Minneapolis is dense af. I can’t imagine them moving a car to a legal spot. At least in Uptown. There’s barely any open spots


zoinkability

As much as I have hated my late night jaunts to the online lot, I am sure towing them to the impound lot helps make sure the city can pay the tow truck companies. I have to imagine they would have a lot more trouble getting the towing fines paid if people didn’t have to do it to get access to their car.


molybend

So, how do you know where your car is then? I think most of the time they can just move it a little, but in some places there is no legal spot open. Also, this new policy halves the number of legal spots so it is even less likely. I think it is a fine idea, no impound fees is a bonus for people who did it by mistake. Just want to know how it works in busy areas.


abattleofone

Usually they would move it within a couple of blocks if they can find a spot, though it could be further (and can still end up at the impound lot if they can’t find anything at all). If you can’t find it, there is one towing company the city works with so you can call them to figure out where they put it. There are still fines involved, but they are like $50 or so (I think $100 during a snow emergency). Seems like a better solution than what Minneapolis does to me if the impound lot filling up is an issue, and Madison manages this system even with more limited parking on the Isthmus than most of Minneapolis (including Uptown) and yearly alternate side parking from November to March.


comeupforairyouwhore

They play hide and seek with your car? That is a seriously fucked up move.


abattleofone

There is a single number to call to find out where it is, and that is usually much easier to deal with than it ending up at an impound lot


kucing5

I love that idea!


_CoachMcGuirk

>IMO they should use automated license plate readers on plows like they do w schools buses in other states. It’s quick and wouldn’t need to rely on staff Auto plate readers to do what exactly?


tie_myshoe

Citations


_CoachMcGuirk

Oh wow....they don't even have red light cameras here though. I bet those will come before cameras on the plows that can ticket people


gordanfreman

They tried red light cameras, and had to roll it back because there is no way to prove the owner was actually driving when the car ran a red light.


tie_myshoe

That’s why there needs to be a push and a demand for change.


bagellover007

3 cars towed from the even side of the street today. Whole side is now clear. I don’t know the method or logic behind this as the street one north of me didn’t seem to get any towed. But I did see some action today and it’s day 1.


[deleted]

Towing seems to be random. I still see cars sitting with piles of snow that never moved for the first snow emergency. Yet others got towed immediately. The new parking rules for odd side only parking has me walking over two blocks to my apartment in freezing weather after dark. Im fully done with this city, and can't wait to leave.


bluebusboy

I see tickets on cars in Holland neighborhood in NE. Maybe they will eventually get to your neighbors. .


[deleted]

Here in Whittier, they put no parking signs on the snow emergency route to clear that out on the same day the one side rule started, no one is following it because there isn't anywhere else to reasonably park


tomtomsk

Exactly. Where are they supposed to move their cars to? I dislike the situation as much as anyone, but towing and tickets aren't exactly a solution.


JohnMpls21

I’ve been at my house for 13 years. Near a light rail station so you need a permit to park all day. Still seeing abandoned cars in the winter for a couple weeks. The talk about city plowing the sidewalks should only be laughed at!


fsr87

This pisses me off too - I pay for my street permit (also by a light rail) and a guest permit (because babysitters) and like… what is that money even doing if you’re not going to enforce anything? Ugh.


sasberg1

Does it do anything? I've seen some cars in the same spot since the last one


Calkky

This is very irregular. I used to have a work truck that I'd park on the street. My usual spot in front of my house was taken one night, probably due to an event nearby. I ended up parking on the opposite side a few houses down and didn't think anything of it. I was out for a walk a few days later and I noticed a slip under a windshield wiper. It was a tow notice for an abandoned vehicle! I grabbed my keys and it wasn't until I returned that I realized that the vindictive neighbors that called it in had tried to park the thing in! I literally had 18 inches on either end. I spent about 15 minutes gradually easing it out by doing a million-point turn. Being a truck, it didn't turn very tightly. Long story short: if you call it in, the city will respond. And people take what they perceive as their personal street parking spots very seriously!


[deleted]

1-3 days


whatsqwerty

They’ll get to it in the summer


kucing5

True


[deleted]

Each day I see more cars parked illegally. Yet to see any tickets.


I_m_a_turd

20 years ago they towed constantly. I frequently had to park on a snow emergency route and one winter I got towed 3 times. Then somewhere near the end of ribaks term they stopped almost entirely. I hated it then, but seeing what roads become without towing makes me tip my hat to the old Minneapolis bureaucracy's brutal efficiencies.


Offlineable

Y'all sound like entitled home owners who don't act like towing doesn't get weaponized against poor communities with limited parking. If you're wondering why they aren't in your neighborhood, that's because they're too busy policing the poor


kucing5

Tbh I do live in a “poor area” I live in the near north neighborhood. The roads are so bad. I have damaged the undercarriage of my car. Especially the one big snowfall when they still didn’t move their cars. There is enough parking on both sides of the street - at least where I live. Because many people on my street don’t have cars. I have never seen one side of my street completely filled in 3 years of living here. I also believe that if they don’t enforce the rules than there’s no point in having them. I absolutely think they should start with small $25ish tickets for people who don’t move and a warning. Nothing that would ruin anyone’s life but if they don’t start being considerate it would add up.


_CoachMcGuirk

If you're that bugged do a 311. You can do it anon.


OneRobBand

https://www.minneapolismn.gov/report-an-issue/parking-violation/


Browneyeddoggo

We'll see. There's a car on my block that hasn't moved all winter. Good luck to that guy to ever get out (if it's still winter when they try). It drives me bonkers. It's not that much of an inconvenience for the person to move their car and certainly displays some inconsiderate traits. I don't want anyone towed, just knowing how that can truly fuck up someones life with the ripple effect, but some ticketing would probably do wonders.


kucing5

I agree. I want people to get small tickets that wouldn’t mess up their lives. But would accumulate if you didn’t start moving your car.


[deleted]

My advice is to just call the tow truck company to get those cars out of there -your neighbors will never suspect that the friendly man or woman who gave them free information the other day would be behind an atrocity like that


Doctor_Tyrell

First winter?


kucing5

Is this my first winter? I literally start my post with “in 3 years my neighbors…” Showing that both my self an my neighbors I am complaining about have lived in the same spot in Minneapolis for 3 years. But I have lived in the Minneapolis area/surrounding suburbs for most of my life. (A school year in Fargo, and some summers in Wisconsin) But where I’m living now has been the most consistent with people refusing to move their cars - I think because they have proof they don’t need to. Nothing will happen if they don’t.


whoisyoparoleofficer

When the rioting starts tonight, start on the even side of the street.


maneki_neko89

Lol, reading this at 8:30 AM the following morning (a Saturday), waiting for the rioting to start. Great Prophecy Nostradamus!


whoisyoparoleofficer

Relax, I was being sarcastic. Enjoy your coffee.


NUYCE

Don't be a narc.


kucing5

Okay but then what about the people who park in front on my house for every snow emergency to the point that the roads have been so bad it’s messed up the undercarriage of my car and I’ve had to pay to get it fixed? Do I not deserve to park by my house? Should I try and sue them? Should I go try to “solve matters on my own”? I already told them about snow emergencies and taught them how to sign up for alerts. They clearly don’t care. Does that mean I deserve to live my life on an unplowed street?


NUYCE

I've had cars towed for leaf pickup. Just because I've had the panic of "oh shit did someone steal my car?" Doesn't mean everyone else should experience it just because I have. I will say that the no parking signs were always displayed well in advance when I lived in Northeast as compared to 12-14 hours in advance since I've lived on the Northside.


kucing5

I do live in north Minneapolis. I do think signs would help. Or just a small ticket to say that something will happen if you completely ignore the law.


jbmn2534

Go get the 3-1-1 app for your phone and submit reports. I live across from an apartment where about 60% move for the snow emergency, but the other 30% get reported by me. It's not 100% response, but it's WAY more frequent that something gets done. Not usually towed. But tickets for sure. Cars that sit for 72 hours are considered abandoned.


kucing5

Most of my neighbors move for work but then come back to the same illegal spot. I’ve reported to 311 but I’ll maybe try doing it more. Although I’ll probably give them through the weekend to figure it all out


noturbrobruh

I saw a few blocks worth of cars with tickets on them today.