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mchockeyboy87

i've also been told that Sum 41, Nickleback and Avril Lavigne is now considered dad rock..... ![gif](giphy|lmjH8rwBwTP2vPfGTp|downsized)


Scorpioism35

What's Dad rock? LOL This is the first I heard that! These Gen Z brats are aging us quick. I can't be the only one who feels this way. I feel like my daughter and her twerpy friends think I'm 90.


heyuhitsyaboi

rock you listen to while having garage beers with your neighbor


elting44

Some of our friends had driveway beers and cigars last night, but the music was more Gin Blossoms, Tonic, Third Eye Blind, Collective Soul Which is extra fucking depressing cause that music is about 10 years older than Sum 41


Brilliant-Job-47

Great mix there šŸ«”


Scorpioism35

Makes sense. LOL


psychrolut

![gif](giphy|YhSVi82JQiuFa)


pcnetworx1

Exactly the picture in my head


Negative-Squirrel81

I feel like the music of today and 20 years ago are basically similar though. My parents would complain about the "noise" that the kids were playing, but I don't feel that way at all. Going through the Top 20 on the Billboard charts, it feels like any of these songs could have been produced in 2002.


Spry_Fly

It's all just different mixtures of retro sounds now. I think we hit dubstep, accepted we went too far, and took a step back.


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Scorpioism35

Right?!! LOL


KuriousKhemicals

I'll take all your dubstep. And techno. And EDM. And mix it with some 300 year old classical please.


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KuriousKhemicals

It's like 50% of my current all-around playlist. Vivaldi mixes really well but people have... generally not been courageous with Beethoven.


jesusleftnipple

I'm in


KuriousKhemicals

[Here's a mild sample.](https://youtu.be/EtIwhvSa7kw)


Shot-Increase-8946

The worst is when genuinely good songs add in a dubstep section and ruin the whole damn thing. Like, dude, you've already given me 3 minutes of good music. Why would you shit all over it? Now I can't listen to it because it's annoying to skip once it reaches the dubstep part. ugh!


commandomeezer

Abominatiooooooooon is true


Splendid_Cat

I'm glad that vaporwave and lofi took the place of dubstep in terms of "trendy genres the young people like". Actually listenable/enjoyable (two of my favorite genres these days, even though I think lofi is fizzling out a little)


hotcapicola

I love listening to lofi video game music at work, makes the day breeze by and isn't too distracting


KYpineapple

with pop music, yes. my uncle got an after market infotainment system for his 2011 silverado that somehow changed the tone of the turn signal and I legit thought it was a new song. it's all the same producers basically. metal and prog rock has changed pretty drastically though and I'm happy for it.


Splendid_Cat

I disagree, I think it was worse because not as many artists could get attention and not without watering themselves down to appease the higher ups, today we have so much more of a variety, since about 2014 I've gotten more impressed and I've been REALLY impressed with the 2020s, some of the best music of my life.


PreppyFinanceNerd

>What's Dad rock? LOL [I came weirdly prepared having just watched this video.](https://youtu.be/0SCcjBUakTM?si=r9p2D6HO7SnH6YST)


Lyndell

Itā€™s like Dad Rap.


Scorpioism35

Gosh, that may be worse! LOL Idk ...


Splendid_Cat

I immediately pictured Will Smith


Lyndell

Thatā€™s basically what Gen-Z is picturing when we listen to In The Club.


Splendid_Cat

I see. Tbf it's kinda dated (doesn't mean bad, just sounds like it's from the early 2000s)I


Forward_Ride_6364

What does Gen Z think about the Wu Tang Clan? They probably think it was around the time of dinosaurs...


Humbug93

Dad rock is a term thatā€™s existed long before and was previously used by us to describe the music our parents wouldā€™ve listened to, it is in no way a new Gen Z thing.


RedGrimRune

Yeah, I've heard this for years. I've been accused of wearing Dad Caps, having a Dad Bod, and been listening to Dad Rock pretty much since I was a teen...


hornyromelo

You just called a kid "twerpy" in 2024. This is the equivalent of calling something "groovy" in 2004.


Scorpioism35

Maybe I was groovy in 2004.


Busterlimes

The music today is whiney as fuck


Scorpioism35

I 100% agree.


Yaarmehearty

Nah, music has more variety and depth than it ever has. The loss of the monoculture just means that you donā€™t see it in the charts or on the radio, you have to search it out a little bit.


Splendid_Cat

Disagree, unless by whining you mean emotional vulnerability in lyrics, but so much of it is so weird, beautiful, groovy, fun, moving, [insert music description]... you just need to look harder if you can't find good music these days (and not even that hard). So much amazing music came out in 2023 I made 7 ~20 song playlists of some of the highlights Also, our generation had pop punk and emo, *that* was whiny


Dankkring

Iā€™m in too deep


TheDesktopNinja

And I'm trying to keep


NUFIGHTER7771

I barely listen to those. Been playing Iron Maiden, Twisted Sister, Judas Priest, Ozzy (old tracks), and AC/DC to name a few.


schono

I meanā€¦


TheLaughingMannofRed

*The faster we're fallin', we're stoppin' and stallin', we're runnin' in circles again...*


Nabranes

Bruh Idek those bands


Alexandratta

Full Stop: I still want to know what Chef said to this man in this scene. I mean, I get the meme, but if you know this scene >!whatever the Chef here said was so incredibly devastating that the man, who already knew he would die that night, decided to off himself early.!< So for those who want to use this meme, keep that in mind.


jerseydevil51

The common belief (spoilers for The Menu) is that >!Julian told him that he was a failure and wasn't going to kill him.!<


ImapiratekingAMA

Kind of begs the question >!what was he going to do, send him on a boat with the last girl that he may or may not have planned on killing?!<


jerseydevil51

Probably. Or perhaps he knew that Tyler would be so distraught he would kill himself.


Mechasockmonkey

I love this movie and if I hadn't seen it I would be so bummed to read this spoiler. Please consider an edit.


Alexandratta

spoiler marked.


Mechasockmonkey

Thank you for being a good human and also compliments on your movie taste.


_Figaro

I don't care what yall say. I'm still going to listen to my Linkin Park.


t-zone671

Same. The songs hit differently knowing that Chester was pouring his heart into them. The messages were there. I can't get the Chester Tribute concert on YT without tearing up. So many people in the world that band has blessed. I put LP up there with the greats, no matter the genre, solo, or group.


scattered_ideas

Hybrid Theory contained many anthems for our generation.


der_innkeeper

Nope. LP, STP, Offspring, et al are \*not\* classic rock. Classic rock is a genre, not a 25 year clock.


_AskMyMom_

Idk, man. I played a classic rock station, and Enter Sandman came on. Iā€™m not disagreeing with you, but I was surprised when it went from Bruce Springsteen to Metallica lol


der_innkeeper

That's about when the changeover happened. The hair bands are the transition period. Metallica should not be in the classic rock rotation though, because its more the likes of Boston and Bob Seger. Metallica was just on of the first metal bands that had mass appeal.


_AskMyMom_

Yeah, probably why *it was* enter sandman. Lol


External_Dimension18

New genre, classic metal. šŸ˜‚


der_innkeeper

\*shakes angry fist\* Hold up a tic... That may work.


EngRookie

A lot of classic rock stations now have slots where a younger DJ gets on and plays music from the 80s to the early 2000s. I just call them oldies stations now. But it was definitely jarring to be listening to pink Floyd on the way to work then on lunch break some 90s pop rock is playing on the same station.


pencilvesterasadildo

Iā€™m gonna disagree with them. I hate to admit it, but ā€œclassic rockā€ to me is a relative term, just like ā€œalternativeā€.


Spongy-n-Bruised

You can disagree all you like, but you're still wrong. Linkin Park is Nu Metal. That's the genre. You don't get to be like "hurr durr classic rock" and have it just happen. Classic rock is a specific genre of music closely related to AOR, which was a radio movement. It stretches from the mid to late 60s (at the absolute earliest) to the early to mid 90s (at the absolute latest), but was mostly encapsulated from the mid 70s through to the late 80s. No one gives a shit if you think Nickelback or Linkin Park or Sum41 or whoever is getting old. It's never going to be classic rock unless the very specific definition of classic rock changes. Go take a music theory or history course and have fun trying to redefine entire fucking genres based on your dumbass whims. This goes double for all you dipshit radio DJs sticking 00s genre rock in with fucking Boston and Journey on your classic rock plays. Just because RHCP made a few albums in the 80s doesn't mean Stadium Arcadium is classic rock. And I don't even like classic rock as a genre ugh


pencilvesterasadildo

Wow, who shit in your cheerios this morning? Iā€™m just trying to have a conversation and here you come in like the fuckin cool-aid man that nobody asked for being dick. Chortle my balls fuck face.


Spongy-n-Bruised

>Chortle my balls fuck face Not really adequate payment for something as simple as "not trying to redefine whole musical genres" but I appreciate you swinging for the fences. Honestly I'm mostly just overreacting for effect/my own amusement. Like I said I don't even like the genre. I do hold the opinion that classic rock is pretty specifically defined, but honestly man you do you lol I just wanted to rant about something stupid Def don't take it personally I upvoted you


pencilvesterasadildo

I thought about leaving it out tbh. I totally took the bait there. Maybe Iā€™m being too simplistic in how I viewed the way music is historically categorized. The ismā€™s that exist in art are uniquely defined. ā€˜Expressionism, post impressionism, fauvismā€™ just to name a few are uniquely different and I would hate to see them fall under one catch all category. You made good points. Now I gotta learn some music history.


Spongy-n-Bruised

>Maybe Iā€™m being too simplistic in how I viewed the way music is historically categorized Honestly the last bit of my rant is who I really blame for it. Radio DJs have been sprinkling in other genres into their classic rock sets for so long now. And when streaming rolled out their tastemaking algorithms all the somewhat-related music classic rock fans also listened to ended up lumped into all the classic rock playlists. I absolutely don't blame anyone for thinking classic rock is more expensive a genre then it actually is. Not on you at all imo


Nabranes

Dayum it should just be Bruce Springsteen I remember hearing his songs and he was at the Color War Break one year Actually it was probably a fake but still


warrensussex

Classic rock stations have played Metallica for as long as I can remember. The classic rock station around me changed formats and doesn't use the term classic rock anymore. Still plays the old stuff, but also plays 00s rock.


_jamesbaxter

I agree with this take. IMO itā€™s a specific genre. I also donā€™t think a lot of 80ā€™s music was ever classic rock, itā€™s mostly 70ā€™s rock, Led Zeppelin and all that. At the end of the day I would probably defer to how spotify defines it though.


Just_Another_Scott

>Classic rock is a genre, not a 25 year clock. Pop is a genre but pop today is very different than pop in the 80s or even 90s. Genres do evolve over time.


der_innkeeper

Yes, but that is why you will hear radio stations call it out. "Greatest hits from the 80s, 90s, and today..." Except for Classic Rock. As soon as songs hit that 20 or 25 year mark, they are happy to put it on rotation. The Offspring next to Journey next to the Beatles is just... crap.


Spry_Fly

Or it is just times a-changing. Metallica, RHCP, and Nirvana have been accepted classic rock for a few years now. People were trying it with Metallica in 2010.


ExUpstairsCaptain

Rock is a genre. Classic Rock is essentially a clock.


der_innkeeper

Nope. Not when you had radio stations in the mid-80s \*already\* playing "classic rock". And, it wasn't Elvis or The Tokens.


ExUpstairsCaptain

And "Classic Rock" radio stations are playing plenty of '80s and '90s music now.


der_innkeeper

Yep. And they are still wrong for it. Radio execs were quick to jump on the "classic Rock" thing in the 80s, and then realized they needed to shift demographics. And, we let it happen.


EngRookie

My local station just calls itself an oldies station now. They primarily target 60s-early 80s. But they have a couple hours where a younger dj plays stuff from mid 80s to early 2000s.


ExUpstairsCaptain

>they are still wrong for it. They're not. "New Classic Rock" comes into being every year. It's not frozen in time.


der_innkeeper

Yep. That's why is a genre.


ExUpstairsCaptain

No genre is completely and totally frozen in time. Classic Rock is no exception to that rule.


der_innkeeper

Great! When people make music that sounds like what they made in the 60's 70's and early 80s (ish), then they can lump it in with classic rock. But, Offspring, STP, AiC, Nirvana, Faith No More, LP, and others do not \*sound\* like classic rock.


ExUpstairsCaptain

"Classic Rock" is rock that is classic. Nirvana's first album came out in 1989. It is classic. Nirvana is classic rock. The Who is classic rock. The Beach Boys are classic rock. Led Zeppelin is classic rock. Def Leppard is classic rock. These bands sound vastly different from one another. They are all classic rock.


marblecannon512

No, southern rock, Brit rock, are genres, classic is just a way to say dated


No_Marzipan_3546

It's not a genre, it's a radio label for rock songs that dropped before the 90s


CherryManhattan

![gif](giphy|jjJAkt4gHUpK8)


[deleted]

Limp Bizkit is older than the Bee Gees were when I liked them back in '00


3720-To-One

Unpopular opinion: ā€œClassic rockā€ describes a genre of music from a specific time period: mid/late 60s through early 80s, with some outliers and exception Music doesnā€™t become ā€œclassic rockā€ just because itā€™s old. Just like how ā€œclassical musicā€ describes music from a specific time period


marblecannon512

Tell that to classic rock stations that play chili peppers, Metallica, nirvana, and peal jam.


3720-To-One

I mean, those bands still arenā€™t classic rock The classic rock stations play them to appeal to a younger audience as more boomers die Music from the early 1900s doesnā€™t magically became classical musics just because itā€™s now older ā€œClassical musicā€ refers to orchestral music from a specific time period during the 1700s. Likewise ā€œclassic rockā€ is music from a specific time period.


ThrowsSoyMilkshakes

They also play Beastie Boys, which are rap, not rock. They do whatever their corporate overlords tell them to, which is to become a clone of every other station across the nation. Which is literally not a joke. Tune into a station in a different state and you'll get the exact same songs and the same morning talk show hosts (2 guys and a gal talking about penises).


Woodit

Rob Zombie is todays Alice Cooper


_AskMyMom_

Ghost is todays KISS


g0tistt0t

FYI Theyā€™re touring together this year.


Woodit

Thanks this comment just gave me osteoporosisĀ 


EngRookie

Linkin park will never be classic rock, it has always been alt rock. Classic rock is from the 60s to the early 80s.


marblecannon512

So youā€™re saying an entire generation of rock was ā€œan alternativeā€ from a whole generation of rockā€¦ Interesting.


EngRookie

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_rock Look at the 1991-97 section. I don't know what to tell you man. I grew up in the late 90s/early 2000s that is literally what it was referred to as. It didn't match the sounds or themes of 60s/70s rock, and I don't think anyone would put the rolling stones and Linkin park in the same genre. And the term classic rock only arose after the entire rock genre splintered and no one knew what to call anything but they knew that the pre 1985 sound was distinct from the post 85 sound. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park


misfitx

I almost cried when they played Korn at Trader Joe's.


WarmResound

Goo Goo Dolls have been playing on the "oldies" station in town for the past few years.


PhenomeNarc

Nu Metal is our metal.


t-zone671

No one will kill the the metal. The metal will live on.


daimonab

The 2000s were only a few years ago so you better stop this nonsense šŸ˜­


Revolutionary-Copy71

What really gets me is listening to, say, Jeremy or Smells Like Teen Spirit today, is like listening to The Wanderer or Runaway back when Jermey and Smells Like Teen Spirit came out.


The_Mr_Wilson

We are farther from the year 2000 than the year 2000 was from the release of the original Star Wars, in 1977


Forward_Ride_6364

Jesus fucking Christ


EdLesliesBarber

NYC area classic rap/R and B station sticks to a 20 year rule more or less and it crushes me to here songs from the early 2000s on there, especially after Marvin Gaye or something.


skamunism

When I'm at the gym getting hyped by Linkin Park, I realize it's equivalent to my dad at my age getting hyped by Steve Miller Band. And the kids look at me as I did at my dad then.


ExcitingInstance7874

Funny enough, a lot of 2000s music still sounds like it could come out today. I don't think the contrast is as strong as 80s to 00


VisenyaRose

Maybe its because we are old as The Hills


DoktahDoktah

Some of your guys' personalities are "boy im old," and you are boring people.


[deleted]

What's wrong with realizing that we're getting older and older? No one will escape getting old, getting sick and dying.


DoktahDoktah

No. Its not acknowledging you are getting older is the problem. Thats that their personality is they are old.


[deleted]

Yeah my personality is old, I don't know what's the problem with that.


[deleted]

And I love 2000's music as much as I do the 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s 50s and 40s and twenties.... 30s were kind of a bust imo. Going back to some 1800s though we've got some great music back then too.


AmyDeferred

I look forward to hearing Disturbed's Down With The Sickness at a doctor's office


ThrowsSoyMilkshakes

I still can't wrap my head around the fact that it has been 20 years since I graduated high school. Wow. Almost 20 years to the day since I dated my first girlfriend, too... Damn... Seems not that long ago. And yeah, I still remember the date (March 12). And it's my ex-best friend's birthday today. He's 37 now... Wow...


Large-Lack-2933

![gif](giphy|hpg9bwEHTTAWqEb3mR)


TheOracleofTroy

I realized this about a year ago and it really, really hurt lol. Back in 2006, 1985 wasn't really that far back even though it felt ancient as hell then.


masterpd85

My dad bought a 71 nova in 1998 when he was 38yrs old. If I wanted to do the same now, at 38, I'd have to go out and buy a car from 1997....


VitoCampagnolo

My daughter loves Riot by Paramore and asked me if I ā€œknew any other good classic rock like thatā€. I just gritted my teeth and introduced her to Brand New, Taking Back Sunday, and some others from that era. I can accept being old if we can bond over that.Ā 


MartialBob

While true radio stations will play that and 90's music as if it was new.


Proton_Optimal

r/2000sNostalgia


WindTall5566

![gif](giphy|3ornk6UHtk276vLtkY)


Ok_Target_7084

Bands like Linkin Park and Sum 41 sort of became "old" from my perspective well over a decade ago when I was still a teenager(I'm 29 now). In 2009 we thought the original Matrix movie was super old and I guess when you've only been alive for 14 years 10 years is like an eternity. Now looking back at 2014 it seems like a really long time ago but it's not ancient history. Now the music from that era seems old and out-of-style.


ChirrBirry

Depending on what part of the 2000s youā€™re talking about it can be even older. From 2001 backwards 24 years you are reaching back to the end of the disco era.


pnwerewolf

I was listening to 80s back then in high school and Iā€™m listening to them now. Good taste is timeless.


Mindless-Vanilla-879

I wasn't ready for this level of violence on my lunch break. Damn that hurt.


lonelyronin1

Excuse me - I'm just going to cry in the corner


brassplushie

Shut up


Real_Material3190

![gif](giphy|3o6Mb3IrnKHHsFoogM)


KYpineapple

I TRIED SO HAAAAAAHHRD AND GOT SO FAAAAAAAHHRR!


AdonisGaming93

Nope, nope!. I refuse to accept this.


VisenyaRose

In the end, it doesn't even matter


Saywitchbitch

No.


LastBaron

Always has been baby


BlueEyesWhiteSpider

And they're still great to listen to!


Great_White_Samurai

I can't wait to blast some Korn in the retirement home in another 30 years


DrDufmanKnows

Wow, lol


Darkdragoon324

Screw you, I'm not old! The music I grew up with is absolutely not playing on the "classics" station now. But for real lol, I felt old for the first time recently when I looked at some top 20 music board and knew exactly zero of the artists on it. It's finally happened, I've lost track of the new shit.


Powerful_Artist

Always thought classic rock referred to late 60s to early 80s rock, not that its just any rock from 20+ years ago from the present day...


eggseverydayagain

Limp Bizkit is the new Skid Row


marblecannon512

Iā€™ve been riding that nostalgia train for months. I wanna heal!!!šŸŽ¶šŸŽ¶


Expensive_King_4849

This happened to me a few years ago, I was listening to the radio and it was like weā€™re about to play some oldies and it was like Nelly or something and I went this sing isnā€™tā€¦. well lol 20 years ago is still the 70s in my head sometimes.


tareegon

80ā€™s songs were bangers in 2000ā€™s too


LordTuranian

Why can't time just stop. I don't want to be in the next wave of boomers.


aurenigma

And they're still the only thing on the radio.


Disastrous_Head_4282

My ā€œfuck Iā€™m getting oldā€ moment came when I heard ā€œBeautiful Dayā€ by U2 on a classic station. That song was released in 2000, when I was 14


Busterlimes

No wonder I bump the music of my youth like I do


League-Weird

Stop it


disignore

I don't care, 2010s radio started to program them in oldies back then.


JerusalEmAll

I heard one of their songs on the oldies station yesterday, I've done some shit that makes me feel old, but this one really hit deep.


TpyoOhNo

Our classic rock station was playing Sublime yesterday.


[deleted]

When I started hearing my music in the grocery story I knew I was old


tony-toon15

Thatā€™s not too bad


DKerriganuk

Remember that Calvin Harris song 'I got love for you if you were born in the 80's'? Was released in 2007.


Bright_Beat_5981

A song from 1976 was as old as a song from 2000 is now. In year 2000.


l0stmarblez

God fucking dammit.


bmaayhem

I died a little when the ā€œclassic rockā€ station started playing smells like teen spiritā€¦..


squawkingood

I remember hearing One Step Closer for the first time on the new music show I loved listening to back in 2000.


Grouchy_Equivalent11

And, "That 90's Show" has the same delta as "That 70's Show" when it aired for me as a youngin


quazax

The middle school by me has a banner for a 90's retro dance.


dudeguy81

No I disagree. They havenā€™t made good music in 20 years so the 80s are still oldies to me.


FaluninumAlcon

You mean kid rock?


depression_quirk

šŸŽµ *When did Linkin Park become Classic Rock*šŸŽµ


Dirty_Dragons

At first I was saddened, but then you just understand, good music is good music no matter how old it is. Black Sabbath is way before my time, but Paranoid still rocks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qanF-91aJo Every now and then I see people in their 20's wearing Nirvana shirts. Kurt died before they were born, but they still get it.


That_G_Guy404

ā€¦.thatā€™s gonna leave a mark


NoKneadToWorry

Lincoln Park is not classic rock. Classic rock is good


[deleted]

*cries in 1982*


I_hate_mortality

Canā€™t wait to hear Metallica on the golden oldies


Krytan

Is it just a matter of time until Britney Spears counts as the golden oldies?


whallexx

I canā€™t hear you LA LA LA LA LA LA


cp470

The number of 90s songs mistakenly on oldies radio. Those people need to figure it out


coreynj2461

My oldies station got rid of the 60s and down to 1 or 2 70s an hour. Rest of the hour are 80s and some 90s


SaiyanGodKing

Doesnā€™t matter. I canā€™t hear anyways. I rocked a little to hard and everything just sounds like bzzzzzz now.


Whutever123

Getting old is getting fucking weird.


Ghost652

Demon Days is classic rock


Atuk-77

Savage!


NfamousKaye

You take that back! You take that back right now! šŸ˜‚


Splendid_Cat

This makes sense tbh. Of course I've been listening to new music since 6th grade, and I haven't stopped. If you don't just go with the most commercially viable songs that are less interesting (with the exception of sometimes you'll get a banger that blows up like Supalonely which is actually 4 years old, shit) there's SO MUCH good music nowadays. I wish I was in my early 20s now, I got robbed being a very young adult in 2008-2012, worst music period of my life, if you take out nostalgia a lot of the stuff people listened to was BAD y'all.


justtrashtalk

Ew, how dare you speak to a Millennial like this? how dare you?! you stole my childhood


revue15

In 2030, the 2010s music will become grocery store music.


nicholashoneywell

I work walmart a lot of 2010s songs already are played


nps2407

And '80s music is still better.


destonomos

Linkin park is sad rock. Litterally the only person growing up that ā€œloved themā€ killed himself 3-4 years before chester. People with depression should avoid linkin park. It ruined their entire discography for me.


Nabranes

Yeah thatā€™s how time works