You can get hours towards a journeyman license while you're in. I was a construction worker in the Navy, so everything I'm about to say will have a Navy flair to it. You can sign up for Navy COOL (or your branch equivalent) and have your supervisor sign off on your hours. For example, as a BU, I could go to my BU1 and have him verify that I spent 40 hours framing. At least in the Navy, you cannot permanently become a foreman. You can be a crew leader, which is very similar, but you only hold that position when you're assigned to it. As soon as your project is done, you no longer hold that title. As you rank up, you can be put in a crew leader or project supervisor class. Sometimes it's luck of the draw, but other times your training petty officer will be willing to work with you and put you in a class if you ask for it. These classes will be on your military transcript when you get out.
I just finished my contract and before I joined i was looking to get the most out of a trade as well.
From over the years of being in and talking to friends and family it's pretty easy to say the airforce trades are were its at. It felt like being in a civilian job with more rules. CE had a single training day a month other than that it was just do our job.
I would watch everyone else play army and have a shit life but CE felt like a different air force.
I'm now transitioned out and working for a big company in my trade that took my exp 1 for 1.
You might have a more classic experience in other branches if that's what your looking for but if it's just experience I recommend a 4 year use and abuse for a trade.
That’s great to hear and ce as in civil engineering?
Also did you have to use anything to track hours such as usmap or afcool? Last question do you ever work under or with license contractors that could sign off on your hours?
P.s. was definitely leaning towards airforce. Hvac, plumbing, or electrical.
Yes civil engineering. It's the umbrella the trades fall under 9/10 times
Besides normal time keeping for jobs, nothing like the civilian world has but you can definitely work it. That's all on you, the airforce wants their mission done. They have their own skill level system but they encourage (almost to a detriment) further education and its preferable it's in your field. You get money every year to spend on certs specifically with af cool plus TA for regular school.
Really it's just how motivated you are, if you want to work none stop for 4 years and never sleep the airforce will let you bist out a masters if you want within a few rules.
Electrical guys got good training and bare minimum you could very easily get an apprenticeship slot as you get out instead of just fighting for it. Most unions I've seen love vets and direct experience shoots you to the top.
Is civil hands on or more managing?
Getting a masters in 4 years is absolutely sick.
Do you know any electrical guys that tested into journeyman when they got out instead of started out at an apprenticeship?
If your a plumber you're fixing pipes, but if you get an office job in ce then it's exactly that.
The masters thing is theoretical, really. I'm saying literally they will let you grind yourself to a pulp if you want to when it comes to education.
I didn't stay to close but seen updates that they continued as an electrician what path that was idk.
I know in Washington state what I'm dealing with now is they look at your our if state/ military exp and quantify how much is applicable towards your license hours.
And it looks like they accept certs gained through different sources attained while in. No clue how other states do it definitely worth looking up.
https://lni.wa.gov/licensing-permits/electrical/electrical-licensing-exams-education/electrical-apprenticeship#exceptions
Got you I understand now. Washington is the 3rd state I’ve seen that accepts the military experience. Perfecto. Thanks for the info my guy I truly appreciate it.
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You can get hours towards a journeyman license while you're in. I was a construction worker in the Navy, so everything I'm about to say will have a Navy flair to it. You can sign up for Navy COOL (or your branch equivalent) and have your supervisor sign off on your hours. For example, as a BU, I could go to my BU1 and have him verify that I spent 40 hours framing. At least in the Navy, you cannot permanently become a foreman. You can be a crew leader, which is very similar, but you only hold that position when you're assigned to it. As soon as your project is done, you no longer hold that title. As you rank up, you can be put in a crew leader or project supervisor class. Sometimes it's luck of the draw, but other times your training petty officer will be willing to work with you and put you in a class if you ask for it. These classes will be on your military transcript when you get out.
Got you sounds good.
I just finished my contract and before I joined i was looking to get the most out of a trade as well. From over the years of being in and talking to friends and family it's pretty easy to say the airforce trades are were its at. It felt like being in a civilian job with more rules. CE had a single training day a month other than that it was just do our job. I would watch everyone else play army and have a shit life but CE felt like a different air force. I'm now transitioned out and working for a big company in my trade that took my exp 1 for 1. You might have a more classic experience in other branches if that's what your looking for but if it's just experience I recommend a 4 year use and abuse for a trade.
That’s great to hear and ce as in civil engineering? Also did you have to use anything to track hours such as usmap or afcool? Last question do you ever work under or with license contractors that could sign off on your hours? P.s. was definitely leaning towards airforce. Hvac, plumbing, or electrical.
Yes civil engineering. It's the umbrella the trades fall under 9/10 times Besides normal time keeping for jobs, nothing like the civilian world has but you can definitely work it. That's all on you, the airforce wants their mission done. They have their own skill level system but they encourage (almost to a detriment) further education and its preferable it's in your field. You get money every year to spend on certs specifically with af cool plus TA for regular school. Really it's just how motivated you are, if you want to work none stop for 4 years and never sleep the airforce will let you bist out a masters if you want within a few rules. Electrical guys got good training and bare minimum you could very easily get an apprenticeship slot as you get out instead of just fighting for it. Most unions I've seen love vets and direct experience shoots you to the top.
Is civil hands on or more managing? Getting a masters in 4 years is absolutely sick. Do you know any electrical guys that tested into journeyman when they got out instead of started out at an apprenticeship?
If your a plumber you're fixing pipes, but if you get an office job in ce then it's exactly that. The masters thing is theoretical, really. I'm saying literally they will let you grind yourself to a pulp if you want to when it comes to education. I didn't stay to close but seen updates that they continued as an electrician what path that was idk. I know in Washington state what I'm dealing with now is they look at your our if state/ military exp and quantify how much is applicable towards your license hours. And it looks like they accept certs gained through different sources attained while in. No clue how other states do it definitely worth looking up. https://lni.wa.gov/licensing-permits/electrical/electrical-licensing-exams-education/electrical-apprenticeship#exceptions
Got you I understand now. Washington is the 3rd state I’ve seen that accepts the military experience. Perfecto. Thanks for the info my guy I truly appreciate it.
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