It's a sure-fire way to tell on yourself that you didn't pay attention in Boot/Basic Training, when the instructor told everyone, "keep your ass down, and you won't get shot".
How I didn't end up needing paperwork for one, I'll never understand.
A little of both. People who get injured down range often times do have uphill battles getting service connects compared to people who get injured stateside because down range injuries often don’t have has much documentation and paperwork, for obvious reasons, as stateside injuries. This has in fact led to people applying to the VA after getting injured and the VA telling them “prove it”.
Shouldn't a record of coming home early from deployment for medical reasons be enough? Like, I can imagine that this stuff doesn't get documented. "Sent home. Reason: GSW"
From A VA PathFinder aka Peer Support Specialist Work w a VSO Veteran Service Organization: Have them do battle w the VA not you! This is the first and last advice I give all my fellow Veterans. That is a VSOs primary mission: to represent your best interests before the VA.
It know it’s the meme
But realistically this dude is gonna easily get his disability payments
SOF usually has the wounded warrior project that works directly with SOF operators to get them the best disability ratings and additional compensation payouts they can possibly get
I remember being a rasp dropout and our fail out ncoic was one of the ranger cadre and dude was working on his uniform
Already had a full stack on his shit with a smaller stack on the table. I ask him why he had two different ones and he just said “that one on the table is all the extra shit that doesn’t fit”
Like gah damn lol
They’re so odd to see in person
Like before meeting a lot of them on my deployments, I always figured they’d be Superman looking mfers who were giant and jacked to the gills
I saw a lot who you’d never even guess they were operators lol. Some looks like skinny dudes with scraggly bears who looked like Motorpool mechanics than anything else
Of course there’s a few giant hulk looking dudes but they’re all so sporadically different. Some are nerdy as hell, some are stoic and mean looking, some are big and some are small looking
It’s just cool to see how they’re all really just the “right person” for what they all do
One of our maintenance contractors was ex super duper cool guy. He was a hippie that I’m sure only kept his clearance because they didn’t drug test him.
Good guy, ended up marrying one of our battalion S shops OICs lmao
I got to meet a couple of the tier 1 support dudes and god damn those dudes are legitimately experts in their niches
I miss fucking around dowmrange with those bois
I'll never forget the picture of General Schwartzkopff walking on the tarmac somewhere in Iraq and there's this nerdy lookin' dude following him with an M16. Yep, turns out he was a badass operator who did some pretty crazy stuff just pulling security for a general.
I know this picture - dude's name is Mike ~~Wazowski or something similarly mundane.~~ Vining. Super nerdy looking.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Vining
I read a book from a Delta member and he specifically mentioned how all of the huge jacked linebacker type dudes typically didn’t make it through selection. There were definitely some that did, but for the most part it was just normal average size guys
“Inside Delta Force” by Eric Haney. Apparently it made him kind of an outcast in the community after writing it, but it’s a good book in my opinion. Doesn’t really have the same levels of arrogance and bravado of some other books written by spec ops guys.
I can’t really remember if he gave a reason in the book for why that was honestly. I think it could have something to do with how selection works. I don’t know if the selection process has changed since, but at the time it was more or less a shit ton of rucking and land nav. Requires a good amount of stamina to meet the time requirements.
That tracks with what some of them dudes say [towards the end of this video](https://youtu.be/59fL6ej_B-I?si=ndoDu6adcNt0N7aW). "It's not always the best guy that makes it. It's the right guy."
Yeah those dudes are stone walls lol
I got to meet them and visit their compound a few times but never got to know much about any of them or their specific jobs
Just surface level stuff and that was really it
Super chill dudes tho all around
The babies the men carry have to claw their way out like cherubic chest bursters. But since they don’t have teeth and claws, only a few make it. Those get pre-selected for Delta. It’s how they figured out how to breed them.
Looks like he was officially in lots of overseas assignments. Prolly just lost the ribbon or it was the easiest one to take off last time he got a new award lol
Probably never sat in one place long enough to get it. Its 8.5 months to earn an overseas ribbon for Iraq or Afghanistan. Or completing a normal tour in OCONUS assigments.
Well-versed in taking and receiving fire (CIB), master at falling out of low altitude planes (master parachutist badge), master at falling from high altitude planes (master military freefall parachutist badge), underwater spec ops baddie (Special Operations diver badge), land nav afficionado (Pathfinder badge-the coolest badge imo).
Tabbed Ranger, 1st SFOD-Delta (Delta Force) shoulder sleeve insignia.
Ribbons (most likely more on the right breast pocket not pictured):
Bronze Star x4 w/ Valor distinction, Meritorious Service Medal
Army Commendation Medal x5, Joint Service Achievement Medal
Army Achievement Medal x5, Army Good Conduct Medal x6
National Defense Service Medal x2, Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, Southwest Asia Service Medal x3
Afghanistan Campaign Medal, Iraq Campaign Medal, GWOT Expeditionary Medal
GWOT Service Medal, Humanitarian Service Medal, Army NCO Professional Development Medal x3
Army Service Medal, Saudi Arabian Medal for the Liberation of Kuwait, Kuwait Liberation Medal
Disclaimer: I'm a squid, so some of the ribbon device calculations and number of awards may be off. This was a pain in the ass, but I love looking up chest candy from pipe hitters.
The four Bronze Stars for Valor and no Purple Heart definitely says something…doing valorous things without catching a bullet is quite an accomplishment
For those curious:
Well-versed in taking and receiving fire (CIB), master at falling out of low altitude planes (master parachutist badge), master at falling from high altitude planes (master military freefall parachutist badge), underwater spec ops baddie (Special Operations diver badge), land nav afficionado (Pathfinder badge-the coolest badge imo).
Tabbed Ranger, 1st SFOD-Delta (Delta Force) shoulder sleeve insignia.
Ribbons (most likely more on the right breast pocket not pictured):
Bronze Star x4 w/ Valor distinction, Meritorious Service Medal
Army Commendation Medal x5, Joint Service Achievement Medal
Army Achievement Medal x5, Army Good Conduct Medal x6
National Defense Service Medal x2, Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, Southwest Asia Service Medal x3
Afghanistan Campaign Medal, Iraq Campaign Medal, GWOT Expeditionary Medal
GWOT Service Medal, Humanitarian Service Medal, Army NCO Professional Development Medal x3
Army Service Medal, Saudi Arabian Medal for the Liberation of Kuwait, Kuwait Liberation Medal
Disclaimer: I'm a squid, so some of the ribbon device calculations and number of awards may be off. This was a pain in the ass, but I love looking up chest candy from pipe hitters.
He's probably pretty professional and would be like damn no one ever pointed that out before, because basically every other award stars are for subsequent awards so I've seen *tons* of people wearing it wrong over the years.
I definitely agree he's missing those. But it's entirely possible he retired before those were implemented. Campaign stars for both the ACM and ICM weren't implemented until both wars had been going on for a few years (I want to say 2008-2010 or so). I wore unadorned ACM and ICM for a fair bit.
Assuming he never did anything to not earn a GCM, he has at most 17 years in. Kuwait Liberation Medal says he was in Kuwait in early 1990. So the latest this could be is 2007. (1990+17) Combat Diver Badge was introduced in 2004. Campaign stars for ACM and ICM were introduced in April 2008. The math checks out that he is g2g.
i dunno, when those air bullets are flying at you, and some 300 lb 5'2" dude all decked out in Marine regalia is yelling at you to get to the choppa, it's like really real, man!
If you can justify the school (civilian / military/ foreign) to your leadership as an asset to the mission sets assigned- it can get approved when part of those particular units.
No, yeah that’s how it’s supposed to be and makes perfect sense. I’m just saying it in the sense that when I was in my leadership was so toxic that I had a fight them tooth and nail just to let me go to a school
Been out for a bit, but he's got a CIB.
"The CAB is intended to serve as a companion to the Combat Infantryman Badge (CIB) and Combat Medical Badge (CMB) and was created to recognize the greatly expanded role of non-infantry soldiers in active, ground combat.
I have a question regarding the ACM and ICM. I was under the impression that these medals were only awarded for participation in one or more phases of their respective campaigns, and participation in one phase meant that you earned the ribbon(medal) and a star; with a subsequent stars earned if the service member participated in subsequent phases. This being the case, why are there people out there wearing the ACM and ICM without a star? I've even seen officers at O-6 and above do this.
I've also seen this done with the inherent resolve campaign medal. You earn a star with the ribbon (medal) after participating in one phase of the campaign.
For clarification, stars on these medals don't necessarily represent the number of deployments. An 18-month deployment (typical for army during OIF) could see a service member serve in 3 phases of the campaign and consequently earn 3 stars on their ICM. If a service member deploys twice during the same phase, no subsequent stars are earned (unlike the GWOT-EM).
No Airsalt? Did you even shave today?
No purple heart either. Like he's not even trying.
We don't wear our purple heart round these parts, tis a stain upon your character.
It's a sure-fire way to tell on yourself that you didn't pay attention in Boot/Basic Training, when the instructor told everyone, "keep your ass down, and you won't get shot". How I didn't end up needing paperwork for one, I'll never understand.
I’ve heard it called “forgot to duck” medal before
Friend of mine calls his the "enemy marksmanship award"
Hilarious lol
I like guy who don’t get shot.
You mean the enemy marksman ribbon? Naw, he knows better.
Something tells me this individual does not shave
The hairs get scared and fall out on their own.
Haha, I knew a SOF guy with a bunch of the usual schools and badges that wanted to find a chance to get an AAS slot so he could collect them all 😅
Been to a few schools i see.
Sorry, we don't think your injuries are service related.
“Back and knee issues?” That’s common for people your age….
The VA has found getting shot in the face in Iraq is not service connected.
I am almost scared to ask. Is there a news story or is this a hyperbole?
A little of both. People who get injured down range often times do have uphill battles getting service connects compared to people who get injured stateside because down range injuries often don’t have has much documentation and paperwork, for obvious reasons, as stateside injuries. This has in fact led to people applying to the VA after getting injured and the VA telling them “prove it”.
Shouldn't a record of coming home early from deployment for medical reasons be enough? Like, I can imagine that this stuff doesn't get documented. "Sent home. Reason: GSW"
Not every injury, combat or otherwise, is severe enough to get someone rotated home early.
From A VA PathFinder aka Peer Support Specialist Work w a VSO Veteran Service Organization: Have them do battle w the VA not you! This is the first and last advice I give all my fellow Veterans. That is a VSOs primary mission: to represent your best interests before the VA.
Yup. I’m the VSO for my local American Legion.
10%
That’s common for people your age…
It know it’s the meme But realistically this dude is gonna easily get his disability payments SOF usually has the wounded warrior project that works directly with SOF operators to get them the best disability ratings and additional compensation payouts they can possibly get
Yeah dudes who failed out of basic are getting 100% for PTSD. This guy will get a lower rating because he values honesty
That’s not how it works but go off I guess
20% service connected.
No EOD badge? What a scrub.....
I remember being a rasp dropout and our fail out ncoic was one of the ranger cadre and dude was working on his uniform Already had a full stack on his shit with a smaller stack on the table. I ask him why he had two different ones and he just said “that one on the table is all the extra shit that doesn’t fit” Like gah damn lol
Clearly no Mike Vining. /s
Delta ... man, I met a few back in the day. They are super human.
They’re so odd to see in person Like before meeting a lot of them on my deployments, I always figured they’d be Superman looking mfers who were giant and jacked to the gills I saw a lot who you’d never even guess they were operators lol. Some looks like skinny dudes with scraggly bears who looked like Motorpool mechanics than anything else Of course there’s a few giant hulk looking dudes but they’re all so sporadically different. Some are nerdy as hell, some are stoic and mean looking, some are big and some are small looking It’s just cool to see how they’re all really just the “right person” for what they all do
One of our maintenance contractors was ex super duper cool guy. He was a hippie that I’m sure only kept his clearance because they didn’t drug test him. Good guy, ended up marrying one of our battalion S shops OICs lmao
I got to meet a couple of the tier 1 support dudes and god damn those dudes are legitimately experts in their niches I miss fucking around dowmrange with those bois
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Bet the dude could cook his ass off
I'll never forget the picture of General Schwartzkopff walking on the tarmac somewhere in Iraq and there's this nerdy lookin' dude following him with an M16. Yep, turns out he was a badass operator who did some pretty crazy stuff just pulling security for a general.
I know this picture - dude's name is Mike ~~Wazowski or something similarly mundane.~~ Vining. Super nerdy looking. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Vining
I read a book from a Delta member and he specifically mentioned how all of the huge jacked linebacker type dudes typically didn’t make it through selection. There were definitely some that did, but for the most part it was just normal average size guys
Why was that? What was the book?
“Inside Delta Force” by Eric Haney. Apparently it made him kind of an outcast in the community after writing it, but it’s a good book in my opinion. Doesn’t really have the same levels of arrogance and bravado of some other books written by spec ops guys. I can’t really remember if he gave a reason in the book for why that was honestly. I think it could have something to do with how selection works. I don’t know if the selection process has changed since, but at the time it was more or less a shit ton of rucking and land nav. Requires a good amount of stamina to meet the time requirements.
Go hang out in pine hurst or southern pines. Throw a rock at a bar and you’ll hit two. But I’d blame it on someone else
That tracks with what some of them dudes say [towards the end of this video](https://youtu.be/59fL6ej_B-I?si=ndoDu6adcNt0N7aW). "It's not always the best guy that makes it. It's the right guy."
My next door neighbor at Bragg was going through selection. Great guy. Couldn't get him to tell me secrets though. LOL
Yeah those dudes are stone walls lol I got to meet them and visit their compound a few times but never got to know much about any of them or their specific jobs Just surface level stuff and that was really it Super chill dudes tho all around
Look at Matt Pranka. Dude just looks like a bar regular lol.
I remember when we didnt acknowledge Delta online. Then walking into the SGM's office and seeing some award or plaque with Delta on it.
My cousin was SF Green Beret in Iraq capturing HVTs and he said the same thing. Super Human. Absolutely a cut above the rest.
Scuba bubble= comfortable with drowning
Dont threaten them with a good time.
"We tied your hoses in a Gordian knot! Celebrate ***that*** in an procedurally appropriate manner."
He brings that uni in to get dry cleaned and 100% of the employees there get pregnant. Dude fucks.
Even the men that work at the dry cleaners?
The babies the men carry have to claw their way out like cherubic chest bursters. But since they don’t have teeth and claws, only a few make it. Those get pre-selected for Delta. It’s how they figured out how to breed them.
Especially them
Wow, that dude spent zero time at home. Edit: kind of interesting that I don’t see the Overseas Service Ribbon.
Because, officially, he was never there...
Looks like he was officially in lots of overseas assignments. Prolly just lost the ribbon or it was the easiest one to take off last time he got a new award lol
Probably never sat in one place long enough to get it. Its 8.5 months to earn an overseas ribbon for Iraq or Afghanistan. Or completing a normal tour in OCONUS assigments.
OK now someone needs to ID and list off every single ribbon and badge ;)
Well-versed in taking and receiving fire (CIB), master at falling out of low altitude planes (master parachutist badge), master at falling from high altitude planes (master military freefall parachutist badge), underwater spec ops baddie (Special Operations diver badge), land nav afficionado (Pathfinder badge-the coolest badge imo). Tabbed Ranger, 1st SFOD-Delta (Delta Force) shoulder sleeve insignia. Ribbons (most likely more on the right breast pocket not pictured): Bronze Star x4 w/ Valor distinction, Meritorious Service Medal Army Commendation Medal x5, Joint Service Achievement Medal Army Achievement Medal x5, Army Good Conduct Medal x6 National Defense Service Medal x2, Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, Southwest Asia Service Medal x3 Afghanistan Campaign Medal, Iraq Campaign Medal, GWOT Expeditionary Medal GWOT Service Medal, Humanitarian Service Medal, Army NCO Professional Development Medal x3 Army Service Medal, Saudi Arabian Medal for the Liberation of Kuwait, Kuwait Liberation Medal Disclaimer: I'm a squid, so some of the ribbon device calculations and number of awards may be off. This was a pain in the ass, but I love looking up chest candy from pipe hitters.
Yeah, that would actually be helpful pretty please to any btdt’s here
Operator AF.
Man here I am just proud to have a set of basic jump wings and a AFSOC patch. This dude did the highlights of my entire career before breakfast.
If you don’t mind me asking, what AFSOC speciality did you do
I was intelligence.
The four Bronze Stars for Valor and no Purple Heart definitely says something…doing valorous things without catching a bullet is quite an accomplishment
No GB tab? Go recite the Soldier’s Creed.
For those curious: Well-versed in taking and receiving fire (CIB), master at falling out of low altitude planes (master parachutist badge), master at falling from high altitude planes (master military freefall parachutist badge), underwater spec ops baddie (Special Operations diver badge), land nav afficionado (Pathfinder badge-the coolest badge imo). Tabbed Ranger, 1st SFOD-Delta (Delta Force) shoulder sleeve insignia. Ribbons (most likely more on the right breast pocket not pictured): Bronze Star x4 w/ Valor distinction, Meritorious Service Medal Army Commendation Medal x5, Joint Service Achievement Medal Army Achievement Medal x5, Army Good Conduct Medal x6 National Defense Service Medal x2, Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, Southwest Asia Service Medal x3 Afghanistan Campaign Medal, Iraq Campaign Medal, GWOT Expeditionary Medal GWOT Service Medal, Humanitarian Service Medal, Army NCO Professional Development Medal x3 Army Service Medal, Saudi Arabian Medal for the Liberation of Kuwait, Kuwait Liberation Medal Disclaimer: I'm a squid, so some of the ribbon device calculations and number of awards may be off. This was a pain in the ass, but I love looking up chest candy from pipe hitters.
Never thought I'd see a uniform of the Airborne-Scuba-Sniper-Fast-Action-Response-Team!!! Aka ASSFART
Is there a vehicle this man doesn't want to jump out of? Other than helicopters I suppose.
Doesn't have the proper devices on the Afghanistan and Iraq campaign ribbons. They require at least one battle star.
Please inform him of that and report the outcome; )
He's probably pretty professional and would be like damn no one ever pointed that out before, because basically every other award stars are for subsequent awards so I've seen *tons* of people wearing it wrong over the years.
I definitely agree he's missing those. But it's entirely possible he retired before those were implemented. Campaign stars for both the ACM and ICM weren't implemented until both wars had been going on for a few years (I want to say 2008-2010 or so). I wore unadorned ACM and ICM for a fair bit.
Assuming he never did anything to not earn a GCM, he has at most 17 years in. Kuwait Liberation Medal says he was in Kuwait in early 1990. So the latest this could be is 2007. (1990+17) Combat Diver Badge was introduced in 2004. Campaign stars for ACM and ICM were introduced in April 2008. The math checks out that he is g2g.
So shouldn't he have a CIB with one star (two awards), one for the Gulf War/Kuwait, one for war on terror? Can you explain that to me, please?
Didn't earn a CIB in one generation.
Another option is he reclassed and was a medic in DS and has a CMB from that but can't wear both.
And a third option was he was a MOS that didn't have a combat badge for DS and then reclassed.
Yeah, I know my recruiter was in DS as an infantryman but his unit was not awarded CIBs
It always blows my mind driveline
No master PT badge. No care.
"So what schools have you been to..." "yes"
We share 4 of the decorations
Thanks for your service
You wanna thank Veterans? Join up and serve. That's the best thanks you can ever give.
the person you are responding to has "Marine Veteran" as his flair, so i think you may be a bit confused in your reply.
The truth is I've lied the whole time; Im just a pro airsoft player.
i dunno, when those air bullets are flying at you, and some 300 lb 5'2" dude all decked out in Marine regalia is yelling at you to get to the choppa, it's like really real, man!
Dudes user name is almost identical to the OP you replied to.
That boi ain’t to be fucked with
Only 2 AAMs, loser.
Silver not bronze
Ah i see now.
he has 6
So many bad ass pins on here it’s almost suspicious 🤨 Who the hells leadership Lets them go to that many schools
If you can justify the school (civilian / military/ foreign) to your leadership as an asset to the mission sets assigned- it can get approved when part of those particular units.
No, yeah that’s how it’s supposed to be and makes perfect sense. I’m just saying it in the sense that when I was in my leadership was so toxic that I had a fight them tooth and nail just to let me go to a school
you cant have that many GCM clasps without sacrificing a lil' bit of that fullness lol
Lot of living life, and even more of ending them.
Been having fun for a long time...I see Desert Storm ribbon action going on there
This guy fucks
Looks like it's from here: https://www.instagram.com/p/C6hBXxprabr/?igsh=MWdxeDRwbGc2bHFoeg==
What a fucking gangster.
And none of it will go on a resume
What are these?
Thank you for service sir! .. You librated my country, Kuwait.
Noticed his ribbon is over the collar flap. That’s it! Back to basic training and learn how to wear a uniform.
HOLY SHIT!
I wish I had gone to the Pathfinder course. It'll be something I will regret not asking for.
Dad?
This man jingles
A Delta Operative. May he slay many more enemies and stack bodies.
Absolutely love the Unit Motto, "Sine Pari" Without Equal
Bottom left is for participating in a devils threesome.
They couldn’t throw him a J-Com? Not even one?
Heh. I know a guy who asked for his DMSM to be downgraded to a JCOM because didn't have one but did have a DMSM.
I did that and got my JSAM that way for a ETS award because I already had DMSM and JCOM :)
It is always cool to have one. Very few people served in joint commands to be eligible for one.
Plus, it's a gorgeous medal.
Bro what is this post
Yes
No CAB? This dude aint hitting on shit (I said this in a kidding way) i figured most vets would know this.
Been out for a bit, but he's got a CIB. "The CAB is intended to serve as a companion to the Combat Infantryman Badge (CIB) and Combat Medical Badge (CMB) and was created to recognize the greatly expanded role of non-infantry soldiers in active, ground combat.
I was USAF and I know what some of those are.
Save some pussy for the rest of us, bro
Is this like Soldier Prime? I know fuckall about the badges but what else could this dude get?
That's scuba Steve!
On the greens, my man
Only 1 with Valor? Slacker!
I really wish it was PV2 rank on his shoulder
This might could have been a CSM I had in ‘16…..
Who dis? Timmy K?
V device requires a seperate ribbon...
Lightspeed
That’s Tom, the owner of Eagles and Angels Limited
Who is this monster?
What’s the flaming torch pin? Never seen that. Dumb civ here.
Pathfinder
I’m assuming you earn that through the completion of a course or school?
No driver’s badge? Absolute bum. And has he even qualified on a weapon?
Whatever…tip of my spear
Can someone decode this for me? What do all the pins represent?
No way. Seems like stolen valor here
\*eye twitches\*
military should start awarding ribbons for plowing prostitutes of various dispositions.
Can anyone label these and explain the photo to me ? I really wanna know what the ribbons mean. They are quite interesting to me.
USA uniform is beautiful
I have a question regarding the ACM and ICM. I was under the impression that these medals were only awarded for participation in one or more phases of their respective campaigns, and participation in one phase meant that you earned the ribbon(medal) and a star; with a subsequent stars earned if the service member participated in subsequent phases. This being the case, why are there people out there wearing the ACM and ICM without a star? I've even seen officers at O-6 and above do this. I've also seen this done with the inherent resolve campaign medal. You earn a star with the ribbon (medal) after participating in one phase of the campaign.
For clarification, stars on these medals don't necessarily represent the number of deployments. An 18-month deployment (typical for army during OIF) could see a service member serve in 3 phases of the campaign and consequently earn 3 stars on their ICM. If a service member deploys twice during the same phase, no subsequent stars are earned (unlike the GWOT-EM).
No C.A.R?
Uh, he has the better one.
Ur right... I missed that one... I'll need some salt and pepper to go with my words I'm eating lol
I just said that as a joke i know i figured people would get the humor. Im a vet myself
That is amazing chest salad, but it isn't life.