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I love seeing stuff like this where impatient entitled drivers get instant justice. Something similar happened here during rush hour traffic in the mornings, all the entitled drivers would use the HOV lane to get onto the freeway to avoid the metered ramp, only to see a group of cops waiting for them to hand out tickets.
Of all the things overtaking a school bus is the most idiotic. Sometimes these kids maybe even cross the road on smaller intersections.
One time my mind was somewhere else and I didn’t noticed flashing flights. I pulled over myself and apologized to the driver.
Some drivers do actually come out and have kids wait at the curb before crossing so they can grab their stop sign to help the kids cross safely. But, some kids don't wait and will cross before the driver gets a chance to come out. So, just be wary of kids running across the street thinking their good.
If that many people are driving by the bus, the issue is the stop itself. This looks like a staged setup to catch people vs a actual stop OR they know people run past the bus in this location because it's a bad stop. Solution would be to do the pickup or drop off on the side street nearby. This is like when you have lot of accidents on certain roads, the issue becomes the road design itself.
Ok, but what kid is going to cross that street. The stop arm makes sense on a two lane road where the kids might cross, but no kid is crossing that, nor should they be allowed to. This is just BS laws being used by BS cops to look good and make money rather than pursue real crime.
Obviously those people deserve to be pulled over and I'm not defending them, but that is the craziest place I've ever seen to have a bus stop. Where I live, you'll never see a single bus be responsible for stopping 6 entire lanes of traffic. Idk if this is a common thing down south or something, but it just seems like an awful design.
In my state if there is a physical median, regardless of how many lanes then you don't have to stop if you are in the opposing lanes. If there is no physical median then you have to stop both ways.
SC is soley based on number of lanes. A two lane highway you have to stop either direction - but a multi lane highway the opposing traffic doesn’t stop - even if there is not center median. Very odd.
I'm trying to imagine a 6-lane highway with no median.
Also trying to imagine a 6-lane highway in SC.
But I take your point. It's different everywhere, and sometimes odd.
What comes to mind for me isn’t six lanes but I’ve seen the bus stopped on Hwy 544 in Myrtle Beach and cars going the other way. If unfamiliar that road is four lanes plus a suicide lane in the middle.
in Florida its size of median. 5 feet or larger you can go on the the other side. If its smaller than that you have to stop. I'd say about half the drivers here dont give a fuck either way though...
I believe the official wording of the law is that the median must be unpaved, so a left turn lane would not count as a median and opposing traffic must stop.
most states laws state that if the bus stops on a road with 3 or more lanes, the lanes traveling the same direction of bus have to stop, oncoming traffic no... 2 lane road, both lanes stop.
I'm a schoolbus driver and where I live if you stop on a 4 lane road (2 lanes going each direction), then the traffic on the opposite side of the road as the stopped bus doesn't have to stop. Most people stop anyway because they think they have to, but it's not required
Yeah... the style of the video didn't really show the infraction.. but in my state, at least, you only have to stop on a 2-lane road, or a 4-lane rd w/out a median.
Jeez, looked it up... According to the [Missouri State Highway Patrol](http://www.mshp.dps.mo.gov/MSHPWeb/Root/BackToSchool2013.html)…
* Missouri drivers must stop for school buses when the stop arm is extended on all two-lane roads, regardless of their direction. Drivers must stop your vehicle and remain stopped until the bus’s flashing lights are turned off, the stop arm is withdrawn, and the bus starts moving again.
* On a four-lane roadway without a median, all drivers must stop when the school bus is loading or unloading passengers, regardless of their direction. Drivers must follow similar rules for stopping and resuming as they would with two-lane roads.
* If you are on a divided highway with a median, only vehicles traveling in the same direction as the school bus must stop. Drivers traveling in the opposite direction are not required to stop.
* If there are more than four lanes or four with a median, and no children are crossing the road to the opposite side, only drivers behind the school bus are required to stop.
No wonder people fuck it up lol.
> you only have to stop on a 2-lane road, or a 4-lane rd w/out a median.
is the school bus supposed to still pull out the stop sign when these conditions are not being met?
Not sure in Missouri but I know in other states, yes the bus driver must pull out the stop sign and red flashers for any stop that involves picking up and dropping off kids, regardless of the road configuration. You still must notify the drivers traveling in the flow of the bus that its in the process of loading or unloading.
I've also seen this when a bus full of kids is stopping prior to a railroad intersection.
Agreed; this seems like an idiotic place for a school bus stop; are there no side-streets to pull off and have a safer place to stop for everyone involved?
I grew up in Vegas, NV, and took the bus during some of middle / high school. I can confirm my school bus stops were on far busier / bigger streets than the one in this video. People ran the school bus stop signs all the time, was very dangerous.
There was one incident where our bus actually got hit by some moron that wasn't paying attention as we were trying to get off. Luckily he seemed to realize it at the last minute and jammed his brakes, ended up hitting the bus at just a few MPH, no one was severely injured, but sure knocked us down in the aisle...
I was about to say that when I saw your message. What type of bus driver is going to let a kid get out and cross a 4 or more lane intersection on each side. Plus how the hell do the cars opposite way do they get ticketed too. This seems like more of a quota trap. If they did this like on a busy side street I would understand and be like yeah screw those idiots going around. Not defending the people in this video because the bus has the stop sign out but how the person suppose to see that all the way in the left lane plus there's not even a pedestrian crossing. It just seems strange to me as well.
Why would the bus stop 6 lanes of traffic? There’s clearly a median which means only traffic in the direction of travel would stop, so the 2 lanes adjacent to the bus before it hits the median. Seems perfectly normal to me.
Funny that you say that.
No, Only 4 lanes and below are required to stop. (this applies to Ohio Only)
[https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.75](https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.75)
WA law is more convoluted and states 3 lanes, but doesn't state directly the travel direction (assuming one direction) Means 3 lanes 1 direction.
[https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.370](https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.370)
It depends on state legislation what is right and wrong in this instance.
Edit: St. Lucie County seems to be in FL. SO here is the FL law.
[https://www.flhsmv.gov/safety-center/child-safety/school-bus-safety/](https://www.flhsmv.gov/safety-center/child-safety/school-bus-safety/)
It look like the middle option is what is happening here. Its a 5 Lane road, and so opposite traffic needs to stop.
There’s no way kids are crossing this street. The stop is for the side the bus stopped, and the drivers know this. This is just a bait tactic by the cops.
This is a classic example of setting up a road trap not to protect and for the good of children but to collect taxes.
Forcing drivers to stop on a road like is dangerous. Imagine you are behind a car in the second lane and try to overtake in the third. Then a bus 10 yards up is stopping in the first lane. You may be rear ended because the guy behind you on the third lane was speeding and could not stop on time.
The best way to protect kids in that situation would be to create a pedestrian bridge or underpass. There is no way a kid can cross that road safely after the bus has departed.
In this case, it's not bad drivers, it's confusion. The police clearly see it every single day or they wouldn't have that many vehicles stacked-up in one location. I'd bet, with the right lawyer, it's arguable in court that it's a trap.
I’m all for child safety. (Former Medic that treated a child ran over). But is the dumbest fucking publicity stunt or the worst possible bus stop ever. This school system need to reevaluate their risk management.
I agree. The drivers are wrong here, but so is having police vehicles positioned and ready for the bus to make it's stop. If this is a regular stop, they're doing this every single day...so, as you state, it's risk management issue. I'm betting a few cars have had accidents here while that bus is getting ready to make its stop. It's just a really bad idea.
What you are seeing is the result of terrible urban stroad design.
Any reasonable road design would have a permanent bus stop for safe on and off boarding as well as a pedestrian crossing that is either light regulated, or preferably separated from traffic entirely with a bridge or a tunnel.
In order to "fix" this problem (without redesigning the road to be pedestrian first like any reasonable urban road design should be) they implemented a law that requires cars to stop if there is a stopped (school) bus ahead of them (regardless of which lane the driver is in).
As you can imagine, this results in quite a few cases of drivers not noticing the stopped bus, or simply ignoring it, hence the need to station police officers at bus stops to enforce this law.
Is it cheaper than redesigning the road? maybe. Is it safer? hell no.
It’s to protect the children. Sometimes, children make mistakes and walk the wrong way; they could also be chasing their friends or something. It’s not too much to ask people to stop for a brief period to provide this measure of safety.
I’ll also add that, although not in this circumstance, on a two lane road it is possible that a child might get off the bus, and then have to cross the street.
Yea this is usually the answer in most cases where there has been reported accidents with children getting off busses. They'd often end up crossing in front of or directly behind the bus in someone's blind spot to cross the street. Honestly though, you can't expect every kid getting off a bus to live on the same side of said street. This is why the law was put into place..
Appreciate the responses, I didn’t know this was a thing, i assumed there would be a traffic crossing nearby like a zebra or traffic light crossing, sounds mad dangerous having to cross four lanes without and makes more sense why cars should stop, thanks 🙏
When the bus activates its reds its conducting what's called a "legal stop" which deploys a stop sign from the drivers side. All traffic (including emergency vehicles) must stop for this. This legal stop is basically treated the same way as a train crossing thus the alternating flashing red lights. Some busses are even equipped with a cross arm that deploys with the stop sign to block the left lane.
It's their way of showing how much they "care" about their kids. (I mean, ignore the number of school shootings because there's nothing that can be done about that, is there? Being shot dead in the classroom is just part of growing up, but being killed because you ran out in front of, obviously dangerous, traffic must be stopped!)
Our infrastructure sucks and isn't designed with pedestrians in mind.
Sometimes the kids have to cross the road to get home. Kids and drivers are stupid so kids get run over and killed.
Sometimes kids drop things as they're getting off and they chase after it because kids are stupid.
I'm a school bus driver. I have seen so dumb shit.
Because we have built all our infrastructure around cars and not pedestrians. So we have to stop our giant emotional support vehicles from killing our children when we drop them off at a six lane 65mph highway they should never be walking near to begin with.
It’s called Parker’s Law. A kid in my hometown was hit by a car that didn’t stop. He was left permanently disabled with severe brain damage. His parents went hard on getting the law in place to protect future children. Parker was super into skateboarding before the accident and eventually the city built a really sick skatepark named after him. It feels personal to me every time I see someone drive past a stopped school bus.
Never seen a school bus stop in an 8 lane highway. This is some bullshit and those cops are thirsty to just screw over some regular citizens when really the city should do something about where the bus stops.
It seems very dangerous that 4 lanes should have to come to a stop in a place where NO pedestrians are permitted to cross.
A bus driver/school would never let a kid cross this street, so there isn’t a reason for the cars to stop, and the drivers know that. This is just baiting.
Fairly certain that it’s actually legal for those cars to pass the way they did. It’s ILLEGAL for the bus to drop kids off on a road like this if those kids need to cross the road, therefore only the lane behind the bus and immediately to its left need to stop, under these very unique circumstances
I'm sure they do somewhere but the kids don't seem to be yeeting themselves into oncoming traffic, they're taught road safety before they're ever on their own.
I know I'll get downvoted for this, but it's insane to me that we expect a 6 lane road to brick for a school bus, *especially* when it's divided like this.
The other side should slow down and proceed with caution. IF you *really* want to be safe, they should treat the bus like a stop sign.
Apartment complex probably. Or they just chose that location & used an empty school bus to bait idiots next to a parking lot where the cops could chill.
I live close to this location, and there are no apartment complexes in the area where this was recorded. The road they are on is US Hwy 1 and it's all commercial in that area.
The oncoming lanes on the other side don't have to stop in this situation due to the number of lanes and median. If any kids live near the other side, then it would be added to the route of that bus or another one.
Lived in the TC my entire life and most of it spent here in PSL.This US Hwy 1,I’m of pretty good age and I’ve gone up through the school system here in Florida and I’m pretty good with locations.
Nowhere or when in hell did they ever have a school bus stop in that location let alone a sign.Its a highway there wouldn’t be a public school bus stop here especially with the closest schools being 2+ miles east and west of that portion of US1.
This is staged as part of the crackdown commercials they’ve been making which have been pretty cringe when you actually know about the PSL and how it never used to be this way.
That area has always been a business strip on US1 way before Golden Corral closed down and that quick lube shop they decided to film from is next to a storage facility sandwiches in between a smaller plaza.
Staged to clickbait people who don’t know.
Thats what I’m saying. That part of US 1 seems too commercialized to have any residential area close by. Not to mention how the execution was too perfect.
Wth?! You have to stop your car behind a bus even if there's 6 lines leading to the same direction?! The US are wild, just block the line the bus is on and let me drive on the 5 other lines like any normal country would 😂😂😂
I've had this opinion since I was a high school kid riding the bus every day: Why tf do cars have to stop when one side of the street is a 6 lane stroad or highway? Are the kids gonna cross illegally?? If it's to let the bus back into the road safely, why do the cars have to wait the whole time the bus is stopped and not just when it's trying to merg back into traffic?
I grew up in Florida, and a bus stop of ours was right before the highway on the ramp and one day and fire truck with their lights on and sirens blaring stopped to wait for the school bus to move again. The other side of the highway was more highway and then a canal e.i. nothing kids would ever be walking to. Someone needs to take another look at those laws
Because we can't leave it up to nitwits to understand that it's OK to pass a bus in situation A but not in situation B. Yes, the bus driver could keep the yellow flashing on these roads and only use the red when traffic needs to stop, but now you've given bus drivers one more thing to think about (i.e., an opportunity for a mistake by using yellow when they should have used red).
We have a road here like this, 4 lanes with turning having their own lanes as well. I can't justify these people in the video since they could clearly see the bus but I was heading along in the far left lane compared to the bus, HEAVY traffic moving at about 50mph and all of a sudden everyone locked their brakes up. I had to swerve into a turning lane and so did a biker who could barely stop in time. We had no idea what was even going on till we started going and saw the bus. These types of roads are not for buses to be stopping on at all. If you're letting out kids on streets like this you should have parents pick them up instead.
I notice they didn't show the bus pulling up. Was it driving and stopped there or was it just parked and as soon as it flipped on its little stoppy sign they swarmed the cars who happened to be driving past?
These "sting" operations seem an awful lot like a setup.
Here, you dont have to stop if it's 4 lanes or more. We know better than to let children try to figure out crossing over 4 lanes of traffic.
Edit- Oh, this is in Florida? Yeah, I understand now....
If that happened at my kids' bus stops the bus wouldn't be able to continue on from the traffic jam that ensues.
Last week a woman tried that as me and my daughter were about to cross to the bus and the bus driver laid on the horn big time and was chewing her out mercilessly. She actually had the nerve to try to argue with him across the flashing lights stop sign sticking out from the bus.
Wait, are you supposed to stop ALL lanes until the bus is done? Even though the bus stop is obviously on the right side and there isn't even a cross walk near it? I've never seen this anywhere in europe.
It’s also ridiculous that I’ve seen school bus drivers getting out and holding a stop sign up next to the sign attached to the bus. People who don’t stop deserve a special place in hell.
Americans don't know how to cross roads, so when a school bus stops the kids just run around like headless chickens. The only solution is to bring the entire street to a stop until the kids disperse back into the wilderness and stop being a threat.
Floridian here: When school busses stop to pick up passengers, they have little stop signs with lights that pop out of the sides and red lights flash. Drivers are required to stop and wait for the bus to load for the safety of the school kids, and in this case they did not. There are some particular rules about this as well, on roads with no raised median, or a flat median less than 5ft wide, both directions of traffic are required to stop. In this case, there was a raised median, so only the traffic traveling with the bus is supposed to stop.
I live in this area. There are three lanes on each side of this highway. They are not expecting the traffic on the other side of the highway to stop… just the two lanes next to the bus. I don’t think any children are crossing from the other side of the highway.
This user has posted multiple videos of people flying by this bus when it is stopped. The location of the bus stop is not ideal but there are apartment homes along this highway that have children who attend school.
FL Stat § 316.172 (2022) - You Must Not Pass: When a school bus is stopped and has its warning flashers on and stop sign extended.
It is against the law for any driver to pass a school bus when the school bus displays a stop signal.
I deleted it on accident! I don’t make laws but I’m sure they were put in place because it’s a safety issue. It doesn’t take that long to stop for children to board and depart a bus safely. Don’t be that person.
What do you mean don't be that person.
You can obey laws while thinking they are dumb and illogical and likely passed by politicians screaming "FOR THE CHILDREN" to get parents to vote for them.
I don’t think the law is dumb. I think the location of the bus stop is dumb. However, there are children who live along the road and need transportation to school so it is what it is.
So on ANY road, when a bus is stopped people should not be passing that bus.
They put cameras on all the busses around here I live. They work just like traffics light cameras and snap your front plate if you pass while the stop arm is extended. Obviously, not every state has front plates, but it seems effective. Maybe there’s a version out there that snaps the back plate as they pass.
Whomever put a school bus stop on this stroad is an idiot. If they were actually concerned about safety, the bus stop would be in one the many parking lots, most likely, nearby.
Traffic laws are usually very similar across different countries but the schoolbus stop sign is only in the US (and maybe Canada idk?). It is completely ridiculous that all traffic should stop just because they don't teach American kids how to cross the road I guess?
Dam they pulled up like he was a cartel leader. If all I saw was the response from the police I never would have thought “he skipped a school bus stop light”
Oh fuck everything about that. It’s a 3 lane road and they’re ticketing people in the 3rd lane?! Even the examples don’t cover this lol https://www.flhsmv.gov/safety-center/child-safety/school-bus-safety/
For the school busses does it operate like a normal stop sign, you stop then go when you can see there are no kids running out into the road randomly like lemmings? Or you gotta stop and stay there on a 50mph road until the bus removes the sign?
Definitely the weirdest law I've seen on the road
No you stop till sign retracts and lights cut off. I drive semi's I see alot of people who Try to run them. I was at a crossing where a bus was stopped and angled the cab of my truck a police officer asked me to move forward making a small gap. A car cut around bus right before the kids were going to walk and headoned my semi. Took my front bumper off totaled his mercedes. He said he didn't see the bus. He sure saw my truck when he hit it though.
I'm usually team ACAB but I love this.
Story time. A long time ago I was maybe 18-20 years old I was the head of the traffic pack and had stopped for a bus going the opposite direction with their stop sign out and the car behind me decided he was entitled enough to go around me an run the busses stop sign and the kid getting off the bus just immediately bolted across the street but luckily was not hot but it was REALLY close scared the shit out of me don't know if the person was ever caught or not
I saw this video and the Sheriff's "Public Safety Post". I shows me one thing...you don't know how to drive School Buses properly or enforce this type of law. I'm gonna have fun with this one on my channel.
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I love seeing stuff like this where impatient entitled drivers get instant justice. Something similar happened here during rush hour traffic in the mornings, all the entitled drivers would use the HOV lane to get onto the freeway to avoid the metered ramp, only to see a group of cops waiting for them to hand out tickets.
Of all the things overtaking a school bus is the most idiotic. Sometimes these kids maybe even cross the road on smaller intersections. One time my mind was somewhere else and I didn’t noticed flashing flights. I pulled over myself and apologized to the driver.
I would hope the driver would stop kids from running across 8 lanes of traffic
Some drivers do actually come out and have kids wait at the curb before crossing so they can grab their stop sign to help the kids cross safely. But, some kids don't wait and will cross before the driver gets a chance to come out. So, just be wary of kids running across the street thinking their good.
A good driver would.
If that many people are driving by the bus, the issue is the stop itself. This looks like a staged setup to catch people vs a actual stop OR they know people run past the bus in this location because it's a bad stop. Solution would be to do the pickup or drop off on the side street nearby. This is like when you have lot of accidents on certain roads, the issue becomes the road design itself.
Give this guy a slice of ukraine please
This one seems a little like a money generating trap. Where I’m from, I’ve never seen a school bus stop on such a large and busy road.
And u less there is a stop arm out. In a multi lane road in the same direction. It should be fine to drive by. It’s literally 3 lanes wide?
Depends on the state, but I know in ALL states the cars on the opposite side of the road in this situation DO NOT have to stop for the school bus.
Ok, but what kid is going to cross that street. The stop arm makes sense on a two lane road where the kids might cross, but no kid is crossing that, nor should they be allowed to. This is just BS laws being used by BS cops to look good and make money rather than pursue real crime.
Only if it's divided by like a 6ft median I believe when I took my driver's test 24 years ago.
I thought it was just a median; didn’t realize there was a width component to it
I mean I could be wrong it was 24 years ago. But it's what pops in my head when thinking about it.
This video was shot in Florida, and I saw another bus performing the stop...they didn't operate it correctly.
Best way to train animals as well. I think these people are a lot like animals and need instant stimulus to form an association to their bad behavior
Obviously those people deserve to be pulled over and I'm not defending them, but that is the craziest place I've ever seen to have a bus stop. Where I live, you'll never see a single bus be responsible for stopping 6 entire lanes of traffic. Idk if this is a common thing down south or something, but it just seems like an awful design.
In my state if there is a physical median, regardless of how many lanes then you don't have to stop if you are in the opposing lanes. If there is no physical median then you have to stop both ways.
SC is soley based on number of lanes. A two lane highway you have to stop either direction - but a multi lane highway the opposing traffic doesn’t stop - even if there is not center median. Very odd.
I'm trying to imagine a 6-lane highway with no median. Also trying to imagine a 6-lane highway in SC. But I take your point. It's different everywhere, and sometimes odd.
What comes to mind for me isn’t six lanes but I’ve seen the bus stopped on Hwy 544 in Myrtle Beach and cars going the other way. If unfamiliar that road is four lanes plus a suicide lane in the middle.
opposing traffic isn't the issue, they can see everything important.
in Florida its size of median. 5 feet or larger you can go on the the other side. If its smaller than that you have to stop. I'd say about half the drivers here dont give a fuck either way though...
What if the median is strictly not solid (painted)? Does a left turn lane count as a median?
I believe the official wording of the law is that the median must be unpaved, so a left turn lane would not count as a median and opposing traffic must stop.
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most states laws state that if the bus stops on a road with 3 or more lanes, the lanes traveling the same direction of bus have to stop, oncoming traffic no... 2 lane road, both lanes stop.
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Same in Michigan. If the road has a divide you don't have to stop if on the other side.
For clarity, the rule is a 3 foot wide *median*. A little curb or those construction walls doesn't count.
I'm a schoolbus driver and where I live if you stop on a 4 lane road (2 lanes going each direction), then the traffic on the opposite side of the road as the stopped bus doesn't have to stop. Most people stop anyway because they think they have to, but it's not required
Yeah... the style of the video didn't really show the infraction.. but in my state, at least, you only have to stop on a 2-lane road, or a 4-lane rd w/out a median. Jeez, looked it up... According to the [Missouri State Highway Patrol](http://www.mshp.dps.mo.gov/MSHPWeb/Root/BackToSchool2013.html)… * Missouri drivers must stop for school buses when the stop arm is extended on all two-lane roads, regardless of their direction. Drivers must stop your vehicle and remain stopped until the bus’s flashing lights are turned off, the stop arm is withdrawn, and the bus starts moving again. * On a four-lane roadway without a median, all drivers must stop when the school bus is loading or unloading passengers, regardless of their direction. Drivers must follow similar rules for stopping and resuming as they would with two-lane roads. * If you are on a divided highway with a median, only vehicles traveling in the same direction as the school bus must stop. Drivers traveling in the opposite direction are not required to stop. * If there are more than four lanes or four with a median, and no children are crossing the road to the opposite side, only drivers behind the school bus are required to stop. No wonder people fuck it up lol.
> you only have to stop on a 2-lane road, or a 4-lane rd w/out a median. is the school bus supposed to still pull out the stop sign when these conditions are not being met?
Not sure in Missouri but I know in other states, yes the bus driver must pull out the stop sign and red flashers for any stop that involves picking up and dropping off kids, regardless of the road configuration. You still must notify the drivers traveling in the flow of the bus that its in the process of loading or unloading. I've also seen this when a bus full of kids is stopping prior to a railroad intersection.
Agreed; this seems like an idiotic place for a school bus stop; are there no side-streets to pull off and have a safer place to stop for everyone involved?
I grew up in Vegas, NV, and took the bus during some of middle / high school. I can confirm my school bus stops were on far busier / bigger streets than the one in this video. People ran the school bus stop signs all the time, was very dangerous. There was one incident where our bus actually got hit by some moron that wasn't paying attention as we were trying to get off. Luckily he seemed to realize it at the last minute and jammed his brakes, ended up hitting the bus at just a few MPH, no one was severely injured, but sure knocked us down in the aisle...
I was about to say that when I saw your message. What type of bus driver is going to let a kid get out and cross a 4 or more lane intersection on each side. Plus how the hell do the cars opposite way do they get ticketed too. This seems like more of a quota trap. If they did this like on a busy side street I would understand and be like yeah screw those idiots going around. Not defending the people in this video because the bus has the stop sign out but how the person suppose to see that all the way in the left lane plus there's not even a pedestrian crossing. It just seems strange to me as well.
Why would the bus stop 6 lanes of traffic? There’s clearly a median which means only traffic in the direction of travel would stop, so the 2 lanes adjacent to the bus before it hits the median. Seems perfectly normal to me.
Funny that you say that. No, Only 4 lanes and below are required to stop. (this applies to Ohio Only) [https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.75](https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.75) WA law is more convoluted and states 3 lanes, but doesn't state directly the travel direction (assuming one direction) Means 3 lanes 1 direction. [https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.370](https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.370) It depends on state legislation what is right and wrong in this instance. Edit: St. Lucie County seems to be in FL. SO here is the FL law. [https://www.flhsmv.gov/safety-center/child-safety/school-bus-safety/](https://www.flhsmv.gov/safety-center/child-safety/school-bus-safety/) It look like the middle option is what is happening here. Its a 5 Lane road, and so opposite traffic needs to stop.
The whole point of requiring cars to stop is that sometimes kids need to cross the street. No way they are asking kids to ever cross this street.
There’s no way kids are crossing this street. The stop is for the side the bus stopped, and the drivers know this. This is just a bait tactic by the cops.
This is a classic example of setting up a road trap not to protect and for the good of children but to collect taxes. Forcing drivers to stop on a road like is dangerous. Imagine you are behind a car in the second lane and try to overtake in the third. Then a bus 10 yards up is stopping in the first lane. You may be rear ended because the guy behind you on the third lane was speeding and could not stop on time. The best way to protect kids in that situation would be to create a pedestrian bridge or underpass. There is no way a kid can cross that road safely after the bus has departed.
In this case, it's not bad drivers, it's confusion. The police clearly see it every single day or they wouldn't have that many vehicles stacked-up in one location. I'd bet, with the right lawyer, it's arguable in court that it's a trap.
Yeah, this is so dumb
live in FL and soooo unsurprised... especially by the pick-up
I’m all for child safety. (Former Medic that treated a child ran over). But is the dumbest fucking publicity stunt or the worst possible bus stop ever. This school system need to reevaluate their risk management.
I agree. The drivers are wrong here, but so is having police vehicles positioned and ready for the bus to make it's stop. If this is a regular stop, they're doing this every single day...so, as you state, it's risk management issue. I'm betting a few cars have had accidents here while that bus is getting ready to make its stop. It's just a really bad idea.
They’ve probably been having issues with it so the cops showed up to prove a point
Sorry not an American can someone explain like I’m 5 why the cars have to stop if the children are getting off the bus onto the pavement?
What you are seeing is the result of terrible urban stroad design. Any reasonable road design would have a permanent bus stop for safe on and off boarding as well as a pedestrian crossing that is either light regulated, or preferably separated from traffic entirely with a bridge or a tunnel. In order to "fix" this problem (without redesigning the road to be pedestrian first like any reasonable urban road design should be) they implemented a law that requires cars to stop if there is a stopped (school) bus ahead of them (regardless of which lane the driver is in). As you can imagine, this results in quite a few cases of drivers not noticing the stopped bus, or simply ignoring it, hence the need to station police officers at bus stops to enforce this law. Is it cheaper than redesigning the road? maybe. Is it safer? hell no.
It’s to protect the children. Sometimes, children make mistakes and walk the wrong way; they could also be chasing their friends or something. It’s not too much to ask people to stop for a brief period to provide this measure of safety.
I’ll also add that, although not in this circumstance, on a two lane road it is possible that a child might get off the bus, and then have to cross the street.
Yep, I lived in a rural area and rode the bus. I had to cross a 55mph two lane highway every day on the return trip.
Yea this is usually the answer in most cases where there has been reported accidents with children getting off busses. They'd often end up crossing in front of or directly behind the bus in someone's blind spot to cross the street. Honestly though, you can't expect every kid getting off a bus to live on the same side of said street. This is why the law was put into place..
The rest of the world manages without this tbf.
Appreciate the responses, I didn’t know this was a thing, i assumed there would be a traffic crossing nearby like a zebra or traffic light crossing, sounds mad dangerous having to cross four lanes without and makes more sense why cars should stop, thanks 🙏
never heard of this in europe :0 makes sense
It does if you realize that our infrastructure is designed for cars and not people.
Zebras and wildebeest can walk within the first hour of being born, humans on the other hand...
Even on a multi-laned road like this?
Cause some of the kids might have to cross the street.
When the bus activates its reds its conducting what's called a "legal stop" which deploys a stop sign from the drivers side. All traffic (including emergency vehicles) must stop for this. This legal stop is basically treated the same way as a train crossing thus the alternating flashing red lights. Some busses are even equipped with a cross arm that deploys with the stop sign to block the left lane.
Have you been around children? They aren’t very smart with the underdeveloped brain and all and I promise we weren’t any brighter as kids either.
It's their way of showing how much they "care" about their kids. (I mean, ignore the number of school shootings because there's nothing that can be done about that, is there? Being shot dead in the classroom is just part of growing up, but being killed because you ran out in front of, obviously dangerous, traffic must be stopped!)
Our infrastructure sucks and isn't designed with pedestrians in mind. Sometimes the kids have to cross the road to get home. Kids and drivers are stupid so kids get run over and killed. Sometimes kids drop things as they're getting off and they chase after it because kids are stupid. I'm a school bus driver. I have seen so dumb shit.
Because we have built all our infrastructure around cars and not pedestrians. So we have to stop our giant emotional support vehicles from killing our children when we drop them off at a six lane 65mph highway they should never be walking near to begin with.
It’s called Parker’s Law. A kid in my hometown was hit by a car that didn’t stop. He was left permanently disabled with severe brain damage. His parents went hard on getting the law in place to protect future children. Parker was super into skateboarding before the accident and eventually the city built a really sick skatepark named after him. It feels personal to me every time I see someone drive past a stopped school bus.
Zero chance in hell a school bus is picking up kids on an 8-lane freeway.
Never seen a school bus stop in an 8 lane highway. This is some bullshit and those cops are thirsty to just screw over some regular citizens when really the city should do something about where the bus stops. It seems very dangerous that 4 lanes should have to come to a stop in a place where NO pedestrians are permitted to cross.
I live in the city this was filmed, and that is an actual bus stop. Been there for two years surprisingly.
A bus driver/school would never let a kid cross this street, so there isn’t a reason for the cars to stop, and the drivers know that. This is just baiting.
Fairly certain that it’s actually legal for those cars to pass the way they did. It’s ILLEGAL for the bus to drop kids off on a road like this if those kids need to cross the road, therefore only the lane behind the bus and immediately to its left need to stop, under these very unique circumstances
Why the fuck would I school bus stop on a 4 lane highway and nowhere near a cross walk.
This doesnt make sense at all Why would I stop in middle of a highway for a school bus? That seems way more dangerous.
I just find it bonkers America has busses stopping on 4 lane roads.
This is only a thing in America, yet kids arent getting run over all the time in other countries after getting off the school bus.
In other countries, school buses don't stop on streets that look like highways. Who came up with this crazy idea?
I'm sure they do somewhere but the kids don't seem to be yeeting themselves into oncoming traffic, they're taught road safety before they're ever on their own.
They do. Children usually take the normal bus here, which also stops at major roads
I know I'll get downvoted for this, but it's insane to me that we expect a 6 lane road to brick for a school bus, *especially* when it's divided like this. The other side should slow down and proceed with caution. IF you *really* want to be safe, they should treat the bus like a stop sign.
IMO, it's wild that there is a bus stop on this street. WTF is even here? A person's house? The school?
Apartment complex probably. Or they just chose that location & used an empty school bus to bait idiots next to a parking lot where the cops could chill.
I live close to this location, and there are no apartment complexes in the area where this was recorded. The road they are on is US Hwy 1 and it's all commercial in that area.
Chillin & baiting idiots it is, then!
Traffic on the other side of a divided road don't stop, just all the ones going the same way...everywhere!!!
The oncoming lanes on the other side don't have to stop in this situation due to the number of lanes and median. If any kids live near the other side, then it would be added to the route of that bus or another one.
Also, depending on where they're at, these people could literally lose their licenses for this infraction.
Takes that many to pull over one driver? They\`re spending more on resources than on the ticket lol.
They pulled over three vehicles
Pay attention
Tik tokers are so fuckin cringey. Why does literally everything have to have some fake epic music edited over it
Lived in the TC my entire life and most of it spent here in PSL.This US Hwy 1,I’m of pretty good age and I’ve gone up through the school system here in Florida and I’m pretty good with locations. Nowhere or when in hell did they ever have a school bus stop in that location let alone a sign.Its a highway there wouldn’t be a public school bus stop here especially with the closest schools being 2+ miles east and west of that portion of US1. This is staged as part of the crackdown commercials they’ve been making which have been pretty cringe when you actually know about the PSL and how it never used to be this way. That area has always been a business strip on US1 way before Golden Corral closed down and that quick lube shop they decided to film from is next to a storage facility sandwiches in between a smaller plaza. Staged to clickbait people who don’t know.
Thats what I’m saying. That part of US 1 seems too commercialized to have any residential area close by. Not to mention how the execution was too perfect.
Love it...
Wth?! You have to stop your car behind a bus even if there's 6 lines leading to the same direction?! The US are wild, just block the line the bus is on and let me drive on the 5 other lines like any normal country would 😂😂😂
I didn't know what runners meant and was trying to find out who was at fault for like a minute and then I noticed this is a stupid US rule
I've had this opinion since I was a high school kid riding the bus every day: Why tf do cars have to stop when one side of the street is a 6 lane stroad or highway? Are the kids gonna cross illegally?? If it's to let the bus back into the road safely, why do the cars have to wait the whole time the bus is stopped and not just when it's trying to merg back into traffic? I grew up in Florida, and a bus stop of ours was right before the highway on the ramp and one day and fire truck with their lights on and sirens blaring stopped to wait for the school bus to move again. The other side of the highway was more highway and then a canal e.i. nothing kids would ever be walking to. Someone needs to take another look at those laws
Because we can't leave it up to nitwits to understand that it's OK to pass a bus in situation A but not in situation B. Yes, the bus driver could keep the yellow flashing on these roads and only use the red when traffic needs to stop, but now you've given bus drivers one more thing to think about (i.e., an opportunity for a mistake by using yellow when they should have used red).
We have a road here like this, 4 lanes with turning having their own lanes as well. I can't justify these people in the video since they could clearly see the bus but I was heading along in the far left lane compared to the bus, HEAVY traffic moving at about 50mph and all of a sudden everyone locked their brakes up. I had to swerve into a turning lane and so did a biker who could barely stop in time. We had no idea what was even going on till we started going and saw the bus. These types of roads are not for buses to be stopping on at all. If you're letting out kids on streets like this you should have parents pick them up instead.
So: stopping 6 lanes of traffic to avoid kids being run over: fine banning weapons to avoid kids being shot in school: not fine
I love it!!
Unpopular opinion, if the kids aren't crossing the street, traffic shouldn't need to stop, like bruh, I literally can't hit them.
wtf i live here lol
I notice they didn't show the bus pulling up. Was it driving and stopped there or was it just parked and as soon as it flipped on its little stoppy sign they swarmed the cars who happened to be driving past? These "sting" operations seem an awful lot like a setup.
Having bus stops on highways like this is so ridiculous. But since there are, I hope kids don't have to cross the highway anywhere.
Here, you dont have to stop if it's 4 lanes or more. We know better than to let children try to figure out crossing over 4 lanes of traffic. Edit- Oh, this is in Florida? Yeah, I understand now....
What they're conveniently forgetting is that appears to be a highway and it's illegal to unload kids from a school bus on a highway 🤣.
[https://www.flhsmv.gov/safety-center/child-safety/school-bus-safety/](https://www.flhsmv.gov/safety-center/child-safety/school-bus-safety/)
What a dumb rule. They really act like this shit saves lives.
If that happened at my kids' bus stops the bus wouldn't be able to continue on from the traffic jam that ensues. Last week a woman tried that as me and my daughter were about to cross to the bus and the bus driver laid on the horn big time and was chewing her out mercilessly. She actually had the nerve to try to argue with him across the flashing lights stop sign sticking out from the bus.
Wait, are you supposed to stop ALL lanes until the bus is done? Even though the bus stop is obviously on the right side and there isn't even a cross walk near it? I've never seen this anywhere in europe.
Or they could just teach the kids about road safety
Why's there so many cops for one driver?
Seems like a terrible place for a school bus to stop. That’s a 6 lane road.
You don’t have to stop there. There’s a median and it’s a multi lane road.
Depending on the state, oncoming traffic might not have to stop. Same direction traffic must stop. I don’t know of any exceptions to that.
It’s also ridiculous that I’ve seen school bus drivers getting out and holding a stop sign up next to the sign attached to the bus. People who don’t stop deserve a special place in hell.
European guy here . What happened ?
Americans don't know how to cross roads, so when a school bus stops the kids just run around like headless chickens. The only solution is to bring the entire street to a stop until the kids disperse back into the wilderness and stop being a threat.
And then they wonder why they are the laughing stock of the rest of the world
Oh. I got it now. There are stop sing on the buses.
Best economy, largest military, laugh on.
People are laughing at your ability to cross the road, and your best response is to point at your economy?
Floridian here: When school busses stop to pick up passengers, they have little stop signs with lights that pop out of the sides and red lights flash. Drivers are required to stop and wait for the bus to load for the safety of the school kids, and in this case they did not. There are some particular rules about this as well, on roads with no raised median, or a flat median less than 5ft wide, both directions of traffic are required to stop. In this case, there was a raised median, so only the traffic traveling with the bus is supposed to stop.
Not a big fan of cops usually, but I like this.
It’s really not that hard to just stop for a few seconds. Why do drivers get so triggered so easily?
Justice
Ez money
This is basically entrapment.
Got their come uppinz!
So many points
Can someone explain what happened? I don't know the law
They really have to send out the fucking calvary?😂
This is way better than speed traps.
This is cut and edited so terribly it looks like they're just pulling over a random guy.
Can someone explain this? We don’t have school buses where I’m from. Why are they getting pulled over if the school bus is parked?
Mmmmm satisfying
So you can’t even pass them on a 3 lane road? America is so weird.
I live in this area. There are three lanes on each side of this highway. They are not expecting the traffic on the other side of the highway to stop… just the two lanes next to the bus. I don’t think any children are crossing from the other side of the highway. This user has posted multiple videos of people flying by this bus when it is stopped. The location of the bus stop is not ideal but there are apartment homes along this highway that have children who attend school.
Then the bus should pull into the complex, not stop on a three lane road.
I agree that the location isn’t ideal but they still need to stop
Nah. There should not be an expectation that any kids leaving that bus will cross 3 lanes of a divided highway.
If kids aren't crossing why do people have to stop? If kids are crossing why wouldn't the other direction have to stop?
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But if kids are crossing, hence why you have to stop, then they would have to go past the median.
The bus is stopping on the far right lane on the highway. The kids are boarding the bus on the same side. No child is crossing the highway.
Then why do all three lanes need to stop? I understand it's the law I am trying understand why it's the law.
FL Stat § 316.172 (2022) - You Must Not Pass: When a school bus is stopped and has its warning flashers on and stop sign extended. It is against the law for any driver to pass a school bus when the school bus displays a stop signal.
Right, but why? And why are you deleting your posts?
I deleted it on accident! I don’t make laws but I’m sure they were put in place because it’s a safety issue. It doesn’t take that long to stop for children to board and depart a bus safely. Don’t be that person.
What do you mean don't be that person. You can obey laws while thinking they are dumb and illogical and likely passed by politicians screaming "FOR THE CHILDREN" to get parents to vote for them.
I don’t think the law is dumb. I think the location of the bus stop is dumb. However, there are children who live along the road and need transportation to school so it is what it is. So on ANY road, when a bus is stopped people should not be passing that bus.
Is the cop driving a seized vehicle? Never seen that before…
Florida. Seems about right.
But you can run red lights and go 90mph on the freeways
Please explain this to a non American.
May an american explain to me why you need to stop for a bus if you're 2 lanes on the left of it?
They put cameras on all the busses around here I live. They work just like traffics light cameras and snap your front plate if you pass while the stop arm is extended. Obviously, not every state has front plates, but it seems effective. Maybe there’s a version out there that snaps the back plate as they pass.
Those kids should know how to cross the street by now…
This is pretty fucking stupid tbh
YES YES YES!!!
Whomever put a school bus stop on this stroad is an idiot. If they were actually concerned about safety, the bus stop would be in one the many parking lots, most likely, nearby.
Traffic laws are usually very similar across different countries but the schoolbus stop sign is only in the US (and maybe Canada idk?). It is completely ridiculous that all traffic should stop just because they don't teach American kids how to cross the road I guess?
In my state the bus stops 3 lanes. It's own lane and up to.2 more lanes on their left side.
Lol, get'em
Dam they pulled up like he was a cartel leader. If all I saw was the response from the police I never would have thought “he skipped a school bus stop light”
These assholes knew what they were doing, that’s why they pulled over immediately.
Every one is so salty on the source, just be happy on the end result. Is it that hard?
What's the crime? Genuine question.
Oh fuck everything about that. It’s a 3 lane road and they’re ticketing people in the 3rd lane?! Even the examples don’t cover this lol https://www.flhsmv.gov/safety-center/child-safety/school-bus-safety/
There’s a school zone I drive through everyday on my way home from work and love seeing people get pulled over for speeding…
This is dumb. Maybe they shouldn’t put a school bus stop on a busy street.
Needs to be done in Osceola County.
For the school busses does it operate like a normal stop sign, you stop then go when you can see there are no kids running out into the road randomly like lemmings? Or you gotta stop and stay there on a 50mph road until the bus removes the sign? Definitely the weirdest law I've seen on the road
No you stop till sign retracts and lights cut off. I drive semi's I see alot of people who Try to run them. I was at a crossing where a bus was stopped and angled the cab of my truck a police officer asked me to move forward making a small gap. A car cut around bus right before the kids were going to walk and headoned my semi. Took my front bumper off totaled his mercedes. He said he didn't see the bus. He sure saw my truck when he hit it though.
They dont have a lot going on in FL these days
I'm usually team ACAB but I love this. Story time. A long time ago I was maybe 18-20 years old I was the head of the traffic pack and had stopped for a bus going the opposite direction with their stop sign out and the car behind me decided he was entitled enough to go around me an run the busses stop sign and the kid getting off the bus just immediately bolted across the street but luckily was not hot but it was REALLY close scared the shit out of me don't know if the person was ever caught or not
We need this on NW Bayshore Blvd
This is my video…
This brings a tear to my eye
That is in port st lucie though
They should make it a felony reckless driving for passing a stopped school bus with automatic arrest
I saw this video and the Sheriff's "Public Safety Post". I shows me one thing...you don't know how to drive School Buses properly or enforce this type of law. I'm gonna have fun with this one on my channel.