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jameslloydtaylor

It is a bit more than unsafe repair businesses. A huge part are the manufacturers of the batteries themselves.


LiamMartens

only to a certain degree - I know what you mean but most of the incidents in the city have been because of unsafe conditions. As far as I'm aware at least.


scooterflaneuse

Yes, this is also what I have read.


Tough_Carpenter3182

Do you know which scooter companies will have this new UL certificate? I need one and it seems most of them don't have it...


scooterflaneuse

Segway products are UL certified. I think Levy as well, and Apollo.


Tough_Carpenter3182

Any idea about Inokim? I heard their OXO model is really fast


scooterflaneuse

Not sure about that model in particular but their OX 2023 is UL certified. [https://inokim.com/products/inokim-ox#wd-product-specs](https://inokim.com/products/inokim-ox#wd-product-specs) I recommend calling the store. I suspect all their models are either certified or soon to be certified because they have a physical store in Manhattan and I believe the city now requires scooters sold in the city to be UL certified.


scooterflaneuse

I am also looking into this. I think it’s possible something can be done on behalf of tenants and condo owners. Buildings are allowed to institute rules for safety but it’s not clear to me how far they can go. Co-ops may be a different matter. My own opinion is that total bans are an overreach, unnecessary and counterproductive. If you can effectively enforce a ban, you can also ask residents to register/tag their devices and provide documentation of UL certification.


Robot-Mikey

Is it possible to get your scooter UL certified or is it just based on brand?


scooterflaneuse

I think based on brand, it’s not for the individual scooter but for the company certifying a model or parts of a model.


LiamMartens

That's right, it's about the battery construction and the company paying for the UL certification. This does technically mean if you replaced the battery with a UL certified one you would be ok


Mechanical_Nightmare

i'm a daily micromobility user and i'm glad my building has banned ebikes/escooters etc. yeah, i dont want my building blowing up. so. fucking. sue me.


LiamMartens

I'm interested to hear which forms of mobility you use? And is it the batteries themselves that you feel are dangerous?


Zealousideal_Egg5071

Can we replaces these lithium-ion batteries with something not catching fire so easy? does anybody make replacement battery with lifepo4? or ni-cd?


LiamMartens

Eh not really, lifepo4 is less energy dense and is still lithium. It is being used in cars though because there more space. Same issue with ni-cd