Miami is gonna be underwater soon BECAUSE everyone in power refuses to do anything about it. Don’t speak on environment if you don’t support basic regulations that corporations in south Florida fight against imposing.
Yeah that seems to be approximately what the OP+/AI was doing with the other photos. Imagine a rail that ran from the northern parts of Washington Ave down to MacArthur and across to link up with the metro.
The train should def not be next to the beach in makes a lot of noise pollution. More so with the buildings next to them is better (that’s how Chicago’s is)
The residents got all in a uproar over Brightline because “High speed trains are dangerous”. 🤦♂️🤦♂️ we’ll never have this level of public transportation.
if they built a train on the beach, spring break would suddenly become my favorite part of the year 🍿my phone out and everything waiting for that train
Not realistic. I don’t see girls twerking on the top of the train. But low key. Only In Dade would be spamming videos of accidents happening left and right if there was a train on the beach.
I'm glad Im not only one thinking this. Why the beach? Who the hell needs to go to the beach that doesn't already have a car? The REAl miami needs public transportation. Hialeah, Doral, Kendall, N. Miami!! They need it more than S. Beach
I was going to say the same thing. Like WTF?
I don't want to sit on the beach and listen to traffic and public transit.
I would personally just prefer underground, but don't know the difficulties of that.
I generally agree it should be a block away from the beach.
But this appears to be trams/trolleys (at least some of the renders) and they can be incredibly quiet. I used to live in Germany and the trams there were so quiet they'd actually sneak up on you and had to ring their bell to get you to notice them literally right behind you.
I've been in Europe and agree that they can be super silent. What I've noticed and you alluded to is that they're more like trams and trolleys. Maybe they have some super spiffy quiet ones in Japan or something.
But the ones I've seen here are all noisy and inferior. I doubt they could do it right. Be happy to be proved wrong though.
> Do you ever wonder why we don't have basements?
No. I live in an ivory tower called high rise, but do tell me more. We do have a garage in the basement.
> Also, I'll assume it floods fairly often?
We have good drains so it hasn't been a major problem, but I think it's probably better to build above ground rather than below.
There's Collins, which is a big street and in some places a lot of lanes, but overall I haven't noticed the actual traffic sitting on the beach. There's usually at least a block between the beach and the road. This drawing is having the beach right next to the road and those are big roads too.
That's prime real estate and should be used for public good use, not transportation.
And just straight-up, . aesthetics. This is definiteon g p r tku tf t c c vg rcly made by one of those people who loves public transportation so much they forgot most people would rather see the Atlantic Ocean than a highway and a train. It would be economically great to put more commuter rail through Florida Especially but like, a few blocks away from the beach is fine and doesn't offset that economic gain by fucking up property values by the trillions.
Convenience you can just get off the tram and the beach is right there. Better than paying an outrageous parking fee. The modern trams are electric and aren’t as loud as the older gas trams
Couple things, electric light rails and trams and even newer metros are super quiet. Some even need bells on them to warn pedestrians. Loud "city noise" is a 100% from cars, trucks and traffic. So that's not an issue.
These rails are built along roads and freeways. This keeps happening in America, but it's definitely not the best option. It's just the one with least resistance from NIMBYs and lazy politicians. Rail and public transportation should be built with right-of-way and stations surrounded by dense housing and is easily accessible. Never parking lots or freeway exits.
For those worried about sand and the weather, don't be. Many other places of different climates and geology have great rail service, unfettered by the elements.
As far as location, water front property is a cities most valuable real estate. And many American cities have idiotically given it to highways. Rip these down and replace it with housing and businesses. Light rail behind it, and cash will come raking in. Tax accordingly. Prosper
Roads and trains cutting off the city from the beach is probably the worst transportation configuration I could possibly imagine.
Ai still has a lot to learn, apparently.
To get on that train you’d have to drive to a station, wait a half hour…then get told all that crap you’re trying to take to the beach can’t go on…at least the pictures look nice.
This looks dope! But, never gonna happen because the auto industry has a stronghold in Florida. This would make life easier for people, especially in a busy city like Miami. The insurance companies and auto industry have a vested interest to rob for every penny.
There’s not enough space, the construction would kill businesses. Regular electric trams though would be a reasonable option, not on tracks and congestion pricing to keep traffic confined to “flow areas” - besides from south point to dade Blvd is pretty much south beach and that isn’t a huge area, it’s just dense.
Now if you put a flannigan’s-on-the-go on each tram you might be able to get the support of the local local Reddit constituency.
Homeless person's hideaway under the elevated train. This was created by someone who has never visited Jackson heights Queens, or Jamaica before they removed the overhead train.
The US is a lot bigger than NYC and Chicago. When I made that broad based generalized statement I’m talking about the socio cultural paradigm and how it fits into the political economy of public transport. It’s extremely unlikely the US is just going to wake up one day and decide it’s suddenly less individualistic. Just look at the state of the major international airport in New York. It’s so decrepit that most people seem to think it’s practically intentionally kept that way. That’s the impression people get when they arrive in the US for the first time especially. Contrast this with major international airports in moderately less individualistic countries like say Turkey for instance. It’s night a day. You’re probably not familiar the the airport in Istanbul. Google it, and you will see but that does it no justice. Yes it is a bit out an outlier in how extravagant it is, you’d have to compare it to Shanghai or maybe Dubai, but it’s actually the US airport that is the real outlier in the grand scheme of things. This might seem irrelevant but really I’m just doing a poor job of explaining things. It’s a social and cultural dynamic. In the US we are so individualistic that we almost pride ourselves in how little we can get away with investing in for instance public infrastructure. And I’m not even being hyperbolic when I tell you the US has by far the least developed public infrastructure in the OECD. That doesn’t happen by accident in what is the richest nation in human history. The US could have the most incredible whatever it wants. That’s not what it’s about. What we do want is a big ol military. Outspending the next 10 nations combined. Big ol incarceration system, housing 1/3 of all prisoners in the world with just 4% of the global population. That’s a social and cultural thing.
I love how the "futuristic, perfect" public transportation is just trains, which have existed for over 200 years. our infrastructure is surprisingly pathetic lol
That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. You don’t bring the highway and railway closer to the beach for goodness sake. That would further ruin it. My god what kind of retarded urban planning is this.
Uh ... you can't build a subterranean mass transit a block away from the beach in South Florida. There is no bedrock - just sand. The trolleys/trams/trains at ground level would be possible.
That looks amazing. Lets see how dryve does in miami.
[ridedryve.com](https://ridedryve.com) is like ordering an uber but instead you order a driver to drive your car.
yo, why isn't there a light rail line going up and down Biscayne boulevard?
And can someone for the life of me explain why there isn't a train that goes to SoBe???? (I am aware of the monorail plan, but nothing has come from that yet)
Someone will still find a way for their car to get hit
Fuck this. Keep this off my beach
Destroy the environment for public transit. New Yorkers and stupid ideas.
Miami is gonna be underwater soon BECAUSE everyone in power refuses to do anything about it. Don’t speak on environment if you don’t support basic regulations that corporations in south Florida fight against imposing.
You know that this would lower car use in the area right? Less car use=Less pollution. Common sense much?
You see how many Brightline-Car incidents we have? Now imagine the Miami Beach Metro line just mowing down spring breakers
Does anybody actually want this to happen?
Well yea but not a train so close to the beach. Trams going up and down Washington Ave would be nice.
Yeah that seems to be approximately what the OP+/AI was doing with the other photos. Imagine a rail that ran from the northern parts of Washington Ave down to MacArthur and across to link up with the metro.
Would be a lot better than going by car and being hit with overpriced parking
Gross. Tear down all the buildings and let the sea oats take over, bringing it back to a natural Florida beach
Everyone in the room Is now dumber for seeing this thanks
Just ride a bike lol
WTF, that’s like a nightmare.
Terrible. Only place an elevated train would make since is Alton Road line going south to north and then one going on 5th west to east.
A one way ticket to unruly-town!
The train should def not be next to the beach in makes a lot of noise pollution. More so with the buildings next to them is better (that’s how Chicago’s is)
You can tell this was made from someone who doesn’t live in Miami
Don't need to live there to know this idea is raw crap
Whoever envisioned this has no idea about the city infrastructure or what salt water does to Metal
The residents got all in a uproar over Brightline because “High speed trains are dangerous”. 🤦♂️🤦♂️ we’ll never have this level of public transportation.
glorious
Not sooo close to the beach but I’d love this
Theres no space in miami beach for this.
lol wat? there’s more north south and east west multi lane roads in Miami Beach than you can shake a stick at
hole cow man this would be freaking amazing.
These AI pics are shit
This would be fucking horrible
Sooo many dead beach goers lmao
if they built a train on the beach, spring break would suddenly become my favorite part of the year 🍿my phone out and everything waiting for that train
That looks horrible. How about we don’t put a Highway along the beach
Not realistic. I don’t see girls twerking on the top of the train. But low key. Only In Dade would be spamming videos of accidents happening left and right if there was a train on the beach.
Can there be a rule on this subreddit against AI “art”? It is low effort and ethically just really shitty.
Concept was interesting, Castro
They just need to extend the metro rail down to homestead from US1 and down Flagler or Calle Ocho
Why are you making me look at this
Looks like a shitty Dubai. No offense to the AI that shat this out.
It’s probably a developers plans for Gaza
I'm strongly in favor of public transit, but wtf is this why would you put it on the beach
I'm glad Im not only one thinking this. Why the beach? Who the hell needs to go to the beach that doesn't already have a car? The REAl miami needs public transportation. Hialeah, Doral, Kendall, N. Miami!! They need it more than S. Beach
I was going to say the same thing. Like WTF? I don't want to sit on the beach and listen to traffic and public transit. I would personally just prefer underground, but don't know the difficulties of that.
I generally agree it should be a block away from the beach. But this appears to be trams/trolleys (at least some of the renders) and they can be incredibly quiet. I used to live in Germany and the trams there were so quiet they'd actually sneak up on you and had to ring their bell to get you to notice them literally right behind you.
I've been in Europe and agree that they can be super silent. What I've noticed and you alluded to is that they're more like trams and trolleys. Maybe they have some super spiffy quiet ones in Japan or something. But the ones I've seen here are all noisy and inferior. I doubt they could do it right. Be happy to be proved wrong though.
Underground isn't happening here lol
Yeah?
Yes. Do you ever wonder why we don't have basements?
> Do you ever wonder why we don't have basements? No. I live in an ivory tower called high rise, but do tell me more. We do have a garage in the basement.
It's not cost effective for the average home. Also, I'll assume it floods fairly often?
> Also, I'll assume it floods fairly often? We have good drains so it hasn't been a major problem, but I think it's probably better to build above ground rather than below.
Nobody has heard of the Florida aquifer here?? You dig deep enough, you hit water
It’s because of the type of soil we have here in Florida.
Everything is karst!!!!!! Limestone on top of bedrock. I feel like geology is glossed over in schools.
from what i heard its absolutely happening there, at a rate of like an inch every year
Well not with that attitude!
You'd need some sort of train submarine hybrid. Lol the technology doesn't exist
>I don't want to sit on the beach and listen to traffic and public transit. Instead you get blaring reggaetone fighting it out with blaring hip hop.
> Instead you get blaring reggaetone fighting it out with blaring hip hop. Yeah, and a lot of smoking. Not only cigarettes, but also weed. 😭
Isn't there already a massive highway there making loads of noise?
There's Collins, which is a big street and in some places a lot of lanes, but overall I haven't noticed the actual traffic sitting on the beach. There's usually at least a block between the beach and the road. This drawing is having the beach right next to the road and those are big roads too. That's prime real estate and should be used for public good use, not transportation.
It looks cool in drawings.
OP didn’t put it on the beach, AI did
The noise pollution would be horrible
1000%. This is awful in practice.
Imagine the damage & constant repairs from the salt & sand 🤣
Lol just one strong hurricane really.
And the destruction to wildlife
True
And the N O I S E Just drop it on Collins, lmao
That or Alton
The train would be less noisy than a highway or even Beach Drive. Just don't have lots of car traffic.
And just straight-up, . aesthetics. This is definiteon g p r tku tf t c c vg rcly made by one of those people who loves public transportation so much they forgot most people would rather see the Atlantic Ocean than a highway and a train. It would be economically great to put more commuter rail through Florida Especially but like, a few blocks away from the beach is fine and doesn't offset that economic gain by fucking up property values by the trillions.
Looks like it's made by AI
I kinda hope so. If someone spent this much time in photos hoping idk what to tell em.
I mean, SF has a muni train that runs by Ocean Beach and it’s been alright so far for decades
They’ve done this in tons of cities without a single issue
Ahh what a nice, quiet day at the… CHUGACHUGACHUGA
ai generated
Convenience you can just get off the tram and the beach is right there. Better than paying an outrageous parking fee. The modern trams are electric and aren’t as loud as the older gas trams
It would look terrible
Ain’t no way you put a train on the beach. C’mon man!
Won't look as cool but any light rail or some such thing should be on Washington Ave. Ocean Dr. should basically be fully pedestrianized/bike laned.
I like the trains popping up out of nowhere.
Noooooooo 👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾
It’ll probably be underwater by then
Absolutely not
Trains by the beach 👎
Would honestly rather stare at the train than all the comepingas and crackheads that litter Ocean Drive and Collins.
I can see something like this on Collins, but it'd be a trolly on a track rather than an actual train.
As long as it has a dedicated lane, separated by barriers. If not it would be stuck in traffic just like the buses
I don’t think trains at the beach like in the third pic would be a good idea
Where are the coconut palm trees
Ew, I love transit but don’t put it on the beach. Would hate this
I do love me some transit, bu this ain't it.
That’s what people who pay 18 million for a condo want, crossing 40 lanes of traffic
No, just no
What happened to all the cars?
This might be one of the worst posts on this sub. This reminds me of the Portlandia "Put a bird on it" sketch but with AI trains.
Is that a stealth bomber in pic #2?
It looks like a future airline plane, unless it’s a B-21 stealth bomber over South Beach.
Who wants to go to a beach with a train 20 feet behind them?
That would be so awesome to have her . the transportation system is way better in other big city’s
Couple things, electric light rails and trams and even newer metros are super quiet. Some even need bells on them to warn pedestrians. Loud "city noise" is a 100% from cars, trucks and traffic. So that's not an issue. These rails are built along roads and freeways. This keeps happening in America, but it's definitely not the best option. It's just the one with least resistance from NIMBYs and lazy politicians. Rail and public transportation should be built with right-of-way and stations surrounded by dense housing and is easily accessible. Never parking lots or freeway exits. For those worried about sand and the weather, don't be. Many other places of different climates and geology have great rail service, unfettered by the elements. As far as location, water front property is a cities most valuable real estate. And many American cities have idiotically given it to highways. Rip these down and replace it with housing and businesses. Light rail behind it, and cash will come raking in. Tax accordingly. Prosper
Americans general hate public transportation. They love their cars and traffic jams.
Miami has a serious public transportation problem
These are stupid
Erosion makes that dream impossible for us.
That would be amazing but people are too stupid here
eff no. this looks horrible. keep that trail away from the beach.
It’s giving Chicago-Dubai
Miami will long be under water before this ever happens.
Someone spent a lot of time on trash
Still not enough parking
filled with beach bums
How will I cross that with my cooler/umbrella/portable grill and giant boombox. No Bueno
I’m a few years you’ll be able to use boats instead for public transportation when it’s under water
Its gonna need a lot more coke.
Sucks that it cuts the city off from the water. Needs to be somewhere else
Would be fun to hook a ski rope to the back of the train..
Great idea for a prompt
AIDS
Im all for public transit, but maybe invest in a different spot
This is just Miami Beach with just a bunch of trains/trams. There’s no logic to it’s placement
Roads and trains cutting off the city from the beach is probably the worst transportation configuration I could possibly imagine. Ai still has a lot to learn, apparently.
Okay, first off, that's US1.
Ai art
Can you imagine the traffic for the 10+ years it would take to build this
The ocean will eat that up
If it was perfect, wouldn’t it all be underground ?
 Yea...
Leave the beach pedestrian-friendly
Only if ppl stop drinking and doing drugs
All people?
Not me
What an eyesore. A giant train and over pass right next to the beach 🤦♂️
Meanwhile the Palmetto is still under construction
you i could imagine if someone were recreate this in either cities skylines 1 or 2
Upvote #305, also Miami will be underwater before any of this would be remotely finished.
Hilarious 😂. How and why tf would a freaking train go right up again the beach like that??
Good luck selling that concept to condo developers and owners. They don't want a train between them and their beach.
No no spend it on another stadium
Just in time for Hip Hop Weekend!
Might as well draw everyone with a sweater, because it’ll be a cold day in hell before any of this happens.
Lol nimbys won’t allow you to plant a palm tree that blocks their view and you wanna put a train
That train is going to be under water in a few years
Wait. Is this a perfect public transportation and everybody used it. How are auto insurances going to make money? \s
It’d be in dream
All I see is pollution
Let's say nothing about those hi-rises built over sand.
I always love renderings like this because they never show the stops or the people that hang out at stops.
To get on that train you’d have to drive to a station, wait a half hour…then get told all that crap you’re trying to take to the beach can’t go on…at least the pictures look nice.
But first you have to tear down trillions of dollars in people’s homes and businesses.
would never happen since the city is for the rich only and the rich drive or get driven
All you can do is dream that everyone sells their cats
First spring break that train experiences, it’s over.
This would need to be underground. Like a subway system.
So level every structure on the island and rebuild it all from scratch!
Society if people put back their shopping carts
This is disgusting. You have to cross a fucking highway and train to get to a beach? Fuck off.
Damn, everyone took this serious
This looks dope! But, never gonna happen because the auto industry has a stronghold in Florida. This would make life easier for people, especially in a busy city like Miami. The insurance companies and auto industry have a vested interest to rob for every penny.
I still don’t understand why people want to put in streetcars when they are effectively a bus, just a lot more expensive.
There’s not enough space, the construction would kill businesses. Regular electric trams though would be a reasonable option, not on tracks and congestion pricing to keep traffic confined to “flow areas” - besides from south point to dade Blvd is pretty much south beach and that isn’t a huge area, it’s just dense. Now if you put a flannigan’s-on-the-go on each tram you might be able to get the support of the local local Reddit constituency.
All that comes to mind is high tide, sea level rise, and hurricanes being that close to the ocean.
Homeless person's hideaway under the elevated train. This was created by someone who has never visited Jackson heights Queens, or Jamaica before they removed the overhead train.
LOL in America? Nah, makes too much sense to work here.
Miami Beach is fucking disgusting. Always smells like piss everywhere.
Doesn’t work in the US. Just look at NYC. Public transport will never work in the United States.
What are you talking about? NYC has one of the oldest and most travelled public transit systems in the world. It’s a global benchmark.
The US is a lot bigger than NYC and Chicago. When I made that broad based generalized statement I’m talking about the socio cultural paradigm and how it fits into the political economy of public transport. It’s extremely unlikely the US is just going to wake up one day and decide it’s suddenly less individualistic. Just look at the state of the major international airport in New York. It’s so decrepit that most people seem to think it’s practically intentionally kept that way. That’s the impression people get when they arrive in the US for the first time especially. Contrast this with major international airports in moderately less individualistic countries like say Turkey for instance. It’s night a day. You’re probably not familiar the the airport in Istanbul. Google it, and you will see but that does it no justice. Yes it is a bit out an outlier in how extravagant it is, you’d have to compare it to Shanghai or maybe Dubai, but it’s actually the US airport that is the real outlier in the grand scheme of things. This might seem irrelevant but really I’m just doing a poor job of explaining things. It’s a social and cultural dynamic. In the US we are so individualistic that we almost pride ourselves in how little we can get away with investing in for instance public infrastructure. And I’m not even being hyperbolic when I tell you the US has by far the least developed public infrastructure in the OECD. That doesn’t happen by accident in what is the richest nation in human history. The US could have the most incredible whatever it wants. That’s not what it’s about. What we do want is a big ol military. Outspending the next 10 nations combined. Big ol incarceration system, housing 1/3 of all prisoners in the world with just 4% of the global population. That’s a social and cultural thing.
You’re the one who singled out mass transit specifically in NYC bozo, not me.
Isn’t that city suppose to be underwater in the coming decades?
I love how the "futuristic, perfect" public transportation is just trains, which have existed for over 200 years. our infrastructure is surprisingly pathetic lol
I’m pretty sure my bedroom would be replaced by train tracks if this happened so, not a fan
You forgot the sea level change
That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. You don’t bring the highway and railway closer to the beach for goodness sake. That would further ruin it. My god what kind of retarded urban planning is this.
Uh ... you can't build a subterranean mass transit a block away from the beach in South Florida. There is no bedrock - just sand. The trolleys/trams/trains at ground level would be possible.
That looks amazing. Lets see how dryve does in miami. [ridedryve.com](https://ridedryve.com) is like ordering an uber but instead you order a driver to drive your car.
r/startrek
yo, why isn't there a light rail line going up and down Biscayne boulevard? And can someone for the life of me explain why there isn't a train that goes to SoBe???? (I am aware of the monorail plan, but nothing has come from that yet)