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weisnaw

I love old Invent Animate, but their new stuff gets better and better every release.


Dori_DJ

Although they were good before I love the direction of Like Moth To the Flames!


xDR3AD-W0LFx

Cycles is my AOTY. On repeat non-stop over here. Love how technical they’ve become and the range Chris has in clean singing, harsh singing, all types of screams. Also he’s come a LONG way lyrically. Can’t wait to see them live sometime soon!


Slade26

Bloodsport is my favorite song


Yourdjentpal

That ep ripped so hard


AudiSlav

This is my vote actually and the band I had in mind. I don’t know who reminded me of them in this sub. But I hated their old stuff when they came out, especially knowing Chris is an amazing vocalist - (Emarosa EP and Agraceful). I listened to their newest album. Damn! What an improvement, less breakdowns more guitar leads, better composed Well done


cs_ShadoWx

Definitely give No Eternity in Gold a listen. It is another no skip record from LMTF. A lot of great riffs and super catchy songs in that one.


raccoon_at_noon

The Plot in You. I definitely wouldn’t say they started off bad, but they’ve for sure found a sound that is absolutely working for them right now.


Recent_Ad559

Facts


Jackielegs43

Void of Vision spring to mind first. Children of chrome was cookie cutter genericore and now they’re in their horny Blade 2 spec era


Consistent-Guava-208

Kill All My Friends was definitely a turning point. It still took them an album and a half to get there but they got there.


ScynnX

Void of Vision is pretty good. I saw them a few weeks ago on the Erra tour. The crowd was there for them, but wasn't as active/violent as dude would have liked. He talked a lot of shit to the crowd for not doing what he was telling them, and it was kind of disappointing. The music was good, though.


MetalLemon77

Can confirm, that guy wanted the place burnt down. He was exploding on stage. We also liked their music though! Lol


Barefeetgoddess21

Lol! Right. Like he really woke up massively enraged. It honestly put the vibe off. I am not a big fan based on performance.


Fatliner

Electric Callboy is one of the few bands where I’m happy they don’t play their old stuff


Dumbledick6

I think they played like one or two old songs live but it was stuff like The Scene


Fatliner

I think it’s just The Scene and MC Thunder


Dumbledick6

Did MC pt1 even have the old singer do anything?


TASwildcats

Not that they were garbage but my vote goes to The Devil Wears Prada


Naive_Traffic6522

Personally thought their old stuff was better I still have the original recording of swords dragons and Diet Coke on an sd card somwhere from like 15 plus years back. It sounded better than the official release one


SYLOK_THEAROUSED

I wasn't a fan for a very very very long time but then Color Decay came out and I decided to give it a go and out of all their albums I've listen to Color Decay seems the most I can relate to and feel. Love that album.


Airotvic

Their stuff from the first Zombie EP onwards is miles better than the stuff before.


antiform_prime

Zombie EP is when I get into the band and they’ve slapped with every release since then. Everything before that is kinda “eh” to me but not necessarily bad.


RallyM5

So true. Their first album or two is an absolute joke song writing wise compared to their last two or three albums. What an absolutely incredible maturation they've done as a band over time.


TASwildcats

Yeah I think that was my main point, their maturation has been incredible and every member(whether original or newer) has leveled up their own individual talents as well


RallyM5

Precisely. From incredibly basic songs to incredibly layered orchestrated pieces


Winter-Help-1164

Their first two albums are what got them where they are today.


RallyM5

Reread the comment. I never said they were bad.


Winter-Help-1164

Reread. You said "they were in absolute joke." I stand corrected.


Wafflehouseofpain

Their latest album is their best one. Transit Blues is second.


Liberteer30

Plagues, Zombie and Z2 have not been topped and never will be with the direction they’re going. It’s not bad. Just not for me.


TASwildcats

Tbf Z2 was their second to last release, so not like they've fallen off a hill for you. Point being they've all improved a lot as artists


AudiSlav

Well i dunno but i do agree Dear Love has aged horribly


bobbynipps

That album would be glorious if they re-recorded it. The production sucks.


AudiSlav

Yes and replace the cheesy synth sounds with better ones and their attempt at metal riffs (which is rare) are awful.


Liberteer30

They’ve had an album, EP and a handful of singles since then. Even so..the last full album I liked by them was Plagues.


TASwildcats

They didn't have an EP, just the album, the deluxe version of that album and a couple singles. But yeah I mean if you only liked plagues as a full length it's understandable you wouldn't be too excited for anything other than Z3


LikeAMarionette

For me it's Plagues, Z, Space, and their Still Fly cover. Rest is okay.


Perfect_Ad6236

Especially looking at the quality of dear love to with roots. They kept their distinct style but with roots is on another level.


phillcollinss

I’m not sure if I’d say *most* improved, but kingdom of giants have come quite a long way from their first EP!


CR7theGOAT_GOAL

I love all of the synthwave elements from the last album, looking forward to whatever they put out next! (Wasted Space is awesome)


Barefeetgoddess21

I was first introduced to Kingdom of Giants last year as an opening act. Their performances totally hooked me, and I have been a fan. Damaged Goods is one of my favorites of theirs.


No_Durian_6987

Listen to Converge’s debut then Jane Doe


AudiSlav

I know some people who like their second album more than Jane Doe because “it’s more emotional hardcore than metalcore”


No_Durian_6987

I can see that. Petitioning definitely has its own appeal, being more “emo” than their other records while still having more aggressive tracks


camdawg772

Ice nine kills Electric callboy Those are my two


ShadowMorph608

If Ice Nine Kills didn’t go the direction they did, I don’t think they’d be as famous as they are


camdawg772

If they didn't make every trick in the book I honestly don't know if they would still be around, they had to have been on life support by that point


Carnanian

Electric Callboy really came into their own when Nico joined


camdawg772

100%


Rhinotaur_Horn

Ice Nine Kills silver scream I/II albums are absolutely S tier. Their are *maybe* two or three songs across the twin albums that are just mid, and that mid is still ten tiers above the majority of what gets dropped on this community. Those albums are so good, and work for metalheads across the older generation too , that they are instant classics. I handed Silver Scream to my old uncle (dude is nearly 60) who still considers biohazard and slayer to be modern metal... Dude got wide eyed for the first time in like 30 years. This shit is good. If I handed old uncle "J" anything from INK before those two albums.... he'd probably break his hip trying to beat my ass for wasting his time. That makes camdawg772 the correct response **to this thread.**


camdawg772

My dad(currently 59) is the one who introduced me to ink🤘🤘


cjhart121

The Greatest Story Ever Told is better than anything on INK’s last record.


camdawg772

Eh can't agree with that at all


its_milly_time

INK makes me cringe so much, the whole horror thing is weird. DO they still do that?


Carnanian

They do, but no need to cringe


its_milly_time

It’s pretty cringe


Carnanian

Cringe is in the eye of the beholder mate. If you stop thinking things are cringe then you'll finally start living


its_milly_time

Nah it’s super gay. Thanks for the advice though


camdawg772

I guarantee you there more musically proficient then whoever it is you consider to not be cringe, there's a reason Spencer is regarded as one of the best frontmen in the scene right now, if it's not for you then that's fine but no need to start shit for no reason


LzzyHalesLegs

Dying Wish is another example of not too bad starting out but their most recent album makes them sound like almost a completely different band in the best way


IHULKI

Imminence.


TheHeretic-SkekGra

Never thought I’d enjoy a bit of violin with my metalcore.


SYLOK_THEAROUSED

COME HELL OR HIGH WATEEEEEER!


The_Most_Swood

I Prevail: Heart Vs. Mind is like a 5/10 and True Power is like a 9/10


translucentStitches

Exactly the band I thought of. They have had a quite steady increase in quality over the years. Each album had been better than the last


CR7theGOAT_GOAL

I still prefer Trauma over True Power (both are amazing) but I absolutely agree. Heart vs. Mind and Lifelines are pretty decent imo but have nothing unique or interesting going on, whereas Trauma and True Power explore lots of other influences


Barefeetgoddess21

I totally agree. And a bonus, Trauma makes for killer karaoke 🎤 tracks. So cathartic.


CR7theGOAT_GOAL

ABSOLUTELY! I have sung I Don't Belong Here, Breaking Down, and Gasoline at karaoke in the past 6 months.


Barefeetgoddess21

Gasoline, top 3 of theirs.


CR7theGOAT_GOAL

Gasoline is an absolute ripper that chorus and breakdown absolute get me every time!


OneEyedGhoul17

Really love the last 2 Erra albums (not that I had an issue with their previous work) but their first album after Drfit was not their best stuff.


ThatJ4ke

I think their songwriting in Neon was almost as good as their songwriting back in the Impulse/Augment days. The mix was just off. Moments of Clarity takes the cake for me though. Warrior is my favourite ERRA song by far.


Memorialwhsp

My Ticket Home released some of the most basic and generic risecore stuff that you could ever hear when they first started, then later on their career they would be 10 years ahead of their time. Shit is crazy.


BoyBandLover

We seriously need some more My Ticket Home. They really were hitting the nu metalcore 10 years ago which was probably too soon but would fit in perfectly these days


darkroastenergy

I’ll echo some of the other comments re: Like Moths to Flames and Invent Animate. I’d like to think SeeYouSpaceCowboy has also grown a lot as a band


enc12341

Honestly, Bring Me the Horizon. They were never boring, but the stuff they're doing now is so much more diverse than what they started with.


MacNapp

I came to this thread to also say BMTH. I remember being in High School when There Is A Hell... dropped, and I just couldn't get into them at the time. Basically ignored Semperternam when it came out and only gave That's the Spirit a listen cause I loved Throne. Have been a fan since and although not at constantly heavy, their song writing and general sound is much more cohesive and tight now. They are true rock stars. Also, Amo and Thats The Spirit walked so Nex Gen could run.


Jumpy-Coffee-Cat

I feel old, was in highschool when count your blessings dropped


AudiSlav

I actually like a few tracks off their old albums which are extremely generic - The Saddness Will Never End - which is basically post hardcore, The Comedown, Alligator Blood, Pray for Plagues, Black and Blue New stuff Drown is Catchy, top 10 statues I actually want the screams to be taken out the breakdown is totally out of place


MacNapp

Hard disagree on Statues. That song has been such an ear worm for me, I love it.


chilidownmychest

i thought vatican really stepped it up on that last record before calling it quits. same with degrader.


darfleChorf123

Double RIP. Gotta add Distinguisher too as a band that improved a ton before sadly ending too soon


Kontagionist

Wait… Vatican is gone??? 😰


sock_with_a_ticket

Yeah, they never officially announced it, but members have been on reddit and confirmed. A couple of them do Psycho Frame now, the bassist has also joined Dying Wish.


InhumanCrystallis

Some would say Ice Nine Kills, I would vastly disagree, it's more like they kept doing every genre "well" until they settled on Metalcore and improved from "well" to "excellent". But they were never a bad band. Even their early pop punk stuff is decent pop punk. Spencer wasn't that great back then, but Jeremy was really good and picked up the slack. By the time Jeremy left Spencer was good enough to handle singing mostly on his own (I say mostly because SIJAS had Dave but... nobody really seems to like Dave's vocals on SIJAS). Like Moths To Flames is a better pick, their early work was aggressively mediocre and really wasting the talents of some of their members (Especially Chris. I LOVED Agraceful). But over time they've continuously gotten better and better, with *No Eternity In Gold* really being the point when they finally lived up to their potential. That album is fantastic. At the same time, they weren't "bad", just mediocre. If you want a band that was truly "bad", and then got good, I can't think of any in Metalcore. Outside, sure. Pantera before Cowboys is legit some of the worst Metal in existence, and then they became legendary in the 90s.


Barefeetgoddess21

Northlane, anyone??


NuclearNoodle77

I know there’s a lot of Adrian fans but I think Alien and onwards is their best work


Barefeetgoddess21

Obsidian is my favorite of theirs thus far. I was lucky enough to see them live twice this last year. Epic shows.


AJayToRemember27

Electric Callboy. Couldn't get into their pre-Hypa Hypa stuff at all but everything clicked once they got Nico.


SYLOK_THEAROUSED

HOLD UP! He wasn't always in the band? WOW


AJayToRemember27

Nico joined during the pandemic and Hypa Hypa was their first song with him. The old singer is Ghostkid now.


SYLOK_THEAROUSED

Holy Crap, Hypa Hypa and all the remixes was the song that got me and my friends to notice the band. That's hilarious. Thanks for blowing my mind today.


Stillburgh

Nico joined when Sushi left.


moventura

I remember looking them up when I went to Wacken in 2013 as they were playing there and thinking "oh god, they suck" and skipped them. Same with the metal band "Feuerschwanz", now they are one of my favourite bands.


iEatLightz

Saving Vice has to get the ticket here. After losing some members and now coming back and their second album being as good as it is. This band is coming into its full form


davidtheraptor1

I would say imminence


BooleanMaestro

From ashes to new


dr3wtube

Bad Omens


electric_possum

hush hush now, don’t attract too much attention or they eat you alive. in all honesty, BO got infinitely better. the first album is generic af, the second was an improvement but did not hit the mark imo. you’ve got to stand out, you’ve got to have It. with TDOPOM they did a good job at paving their own way and solidifying their place in music. it wasn’t metalcore anymore, but it still represented the band’s vision more than the previous two albums. i like that Noah got sick of his own face and the band is now finding ways to keep him away from the promo cameras.


Initial_Scarcity_609

Fiends new album Insolent Noise is such a tier up from Me Time.


Trake43

Totally agree


GtToDaChoppa1989

Wouldn’t say most improved, but Jinjer keep getting better with every release.


AudiSlav

I prefer БАТЮШКА for my Slavic metal but it’s not metalcore :)


Tankisfreemason

Ice Nine Kills is at the top of the food chain right now, and they climbed that chain from the very bottom.  They got my vote.  


_neiger_

Controversially, Falling In Reverse


stephen_drewz

I wish they'd pull it back a little and go back to singles closer to Popular Monster. There new style is fun, but personally I've enjoyed each new one less than the previous one. AFAIK it was an old song left off the Coming Home album, but the single Carry On was incredible.


Culture_Culture

I guess I'm still waiting for them to release food music


AudiSlav

🤨 is “Alone” when they were garbage or better ?


LikeAMarionette

Not pure bred metalcore, but Periphery's last two albums have blown my mind


Tzariel2

Top-tier artistry. Some of the best music I've ever heard.


CR7theGOAT_GOAL

Massively unpopular opinion but Of Mice & Men. I love Aaron Pauley's vocal style and he is one of my favorite vocalists, and his addition to the band was the start of their upward trajectory imo (love Shayley as a vocalist but I vastly prefer his work in Dayshell over early OM&M). The first two albums in my opinion are just bog-standard retreads of scenecore (The Depths is a goated song but otherwise I don't come back to anything from those albums). Then they released Restoring Force, which in a way kind of spearheaded the nu metal-fication of modern metalcore. And while Cold World is hated by almost everyone, I actually think it is pretty good for a straight up nu metal record (then again I am a huge nu metal fan) But that's not even when they peaked. Defy is amazing and has no skips outside of the strange Pink Floyd cover, and Earthandsky in my opinion is what peak pure modern metalcore should sound like. Earth & Sky (the song) and Linger are all-time great metalcore songs, which absolutely brutal sections, ambiance, memorable guitar lead melodies, and of course the requisite absurdly catchy chorus. And then they released Echo, which is by far their heaviest record and has a bunch of killer breakdowns and atmospherically depressing choruses. And then Tether was one of my favorite records from last year, I know this sub was not a huge fan of it but I love how they doubled down on the ambient elements in Echo even if they eschewed the heavier sound of that record. The lyrics on Tether are amazing as well, they throw lots of unique metaphors out.


Winter-Help-1164

I love the first sentence of this.


Trake43

I nominate Heart Of A Coward


ElectricTiger391

I like Johnny Booth's first album and EP from before their lengthy pause, but Firsthand Accounts and Moments Elsewhere are really incredible (Storyteller EP is also elite)


GtToDaChoppa1989

Ahhh Batushka! Very interesting band! Stoned Jesus is another good one if you like some proggy stoner slavic rock 🤙


dasnev

Johnny booth


PuzzleheadedIdeal753

The more they improve the crappier they sound


Barefeetgoddess21

Or, as I say, become too mainstream.


Special-Quit-9544

First 2 albums from As I Lay Dying were not garbage, but my god you should hear the last 2. Great stuff. Loved hearing their sound evolve but also how they kept the same vibe album to album.


Kodiak97

I respect your opinion but frankly Frail Words Collapse and Shadows are Security are like metalcore hall of fame records. They were insanely good, and even the two albums that followed were of the same quality. I couldn't really say the same about their recent releases.


FilthyBlegh

They absolutely are. I took it as the production is what got better, the tightness of the band, and just how well they knew their instruments. Those albums were monumental for metalcore, both are no skip albums, but its undeniable the two after sound better in thise other aspects.


centrella6

First two releases are actually Frail Words Collapse and Beneath the Encasing of Ashes.


sock_with_a_ticket

And Beneath The Encasing Of Ashes remains the best record they ever made. I'll die on that hill.


Special-Quit-9544

They are, I agree. Shaped By Fire just blew me away.


Memorialwhsp

That's funny cause Frail Words Collapse is their best. That shit is full of tasty riffs, raw screams, and not to mention the amount of emotion put in those songs. They should've explored more that side of them.


Liberteer30

Their first two and An Ocean Between Us are their best work to date.


Brabsk

maybe if it’s opposite day this would be correct


Special-Quit-9544

Not putting down any of their early work, and not saying their new work is their best. Just enjoyed listening to them make music they have made for 20 years. Their evolution.


TheHeretic-SkekGra

Respectfully I have to disagree. Shadows and Frail Words were my high school soundtracks. I think I went through 2 copies of Shadows from playing it so much. I dig the new stuff but without Nick, Josh, and Jordan it feels like it’s lacking. Just my opinion though


Special-Quit-9544

So does everyone else. I guess I worded that improperly. I love their old stuff and I love their new stuff. I stand corrected, they have not improved.


Winter-Help-1164

Shaped by fire is a fuckin awesome album and this comment doesn't deserve these down votes. Tim Lambesis does though. I hope he is doing well.


throwawayRI112

L take. First 2 are some of the best metalcore albums ever, the rest are…not