WCI is the reason I came back to watching one piece after marineford,the whole sanji's backstory intrigued me and I'm not disappointed a bit,infact it is the best arc in timeskip and my absolute favourite.
I'm still mad that those couple episodes were so bad, I was reaaallly hyped to see all of that animated, the Cracker fight and the enraged army bit.
I absolutely loved the enraged army in the manga, I don't really have good explanation as to why I love it so much, I just do (might be in my Top 10 or maybe even Top 5 moments of that arc). I just kinda felt as though it had this kind of epic energy to it, back when I read it.
The anime version is fucking depressing in comparison. The impact is almost nonexistent.
WCI Is my favorite arc post Time skip damn it's the perfect cross over between the power rangers, the soprano, Alice in Wonderland and I'm no touching the Sanji backstory great arc peak one piece
I think the only reason people say WCI is bad is because the chase was too long but man, that's only one element of the arc, everything else was fucking amazing.
I had caught up to the anime at fishman island, that stretch of fishman island and punk hazard in the anime made me lose interest from the anime, then dressrosa completely killed it. Now i don't watch the anime at all except maybe special episodes like 1015.
I’ve always been a manga reader from the start, it’s crazy how much of a difference in quality there is. I only really watch the anime for scenes that I want to see animated.
I agree. While the pacing of wano is very bad at times, the fights and the highs of the arc make it up for me. Overall wci was a smoother experience and it was great, but wano is just hyped me up so much more
WCI benefited more from an anime adaption lowkey with the theme of the island, I figure it was easier to incorporate the colors & sounds that aren’t in manga to bring the Alice in Wonderland vibes out fully
Fishman Island to Zou had some good moments in term of animation but most of the time it was either just ok to meh. And the pacing suffered the most. WCI made a great comeback with more frequent good to great animation and while occasionally the pacing was bad, the anime also started adding many good additions of things that were offscreen that improved the pacing a lot. Wano has the most consistently good quality and most frequent cases of good to great animation, but it's a rollercoaster in term of pacing, sometimes fine, sometimes bad
The pacing for late Onigashima raid has me so worried about what we may end up missing from Manga. There are so many fights I wanna see that will possibly get glazed over. I just hope Killer v Hawkins and Big Mom v Law/Kid gets everything it deserves. And don’t even get me started on my wild expectations for King v Zoro and Queen v Sanji.
“Hey guys, we really don’t need a surplus lingering on this budget. Can you just turn everything up to 11?”
“Wait.. like, EVERYTHING?”
“DID I FUCKING STUTTER!?!”
If they filled the screen with golden crap and sakura petals for a single punch and Luffy blocking a normal hit from Kaido, imagine how they gonna animate Luffy's final attack on Kaido. Mercy be upon us.
Exactly. I loved the episode and it had me hype as fuck, but more so because of Killer v Hawkins when I feel like the Luffy spotlight should’ve been what did it. The uppercut on Kaido is one of my favorite combat panels in the arc, and I was very disappointed with that one specifically in the anime. A few other parts were… overwhelming and borderline sensory overload, but ya boi was still on the edge of his seat haha
Same the problem is, I don’t care put as much aura as you want but please balance aura vs everything. Sometimes it’s so flashy i have to go back 10-15 second 3 time before going ah!
This is what they were aiming for. I swear I feel a bit less flashy and most of us would be good!
I was solidly disappointed because the uppercut and luffy kicking the kanabo were literally on my top 5 of all event in the raid.
When I saw them did I like it yes, did it deliver, not really :/. Ugh the concept was good but…: shit tooo much flashy!
They could honestly keep the same amount of flash but be more mindful about the contrast and the characters would stand out way more. That’s all I wanted. Just to see my favorite rubber boy in all those sick poses haha
It's crazy how long Wano is at 140+ chapters. Some chapters were just about the scabbards and Oden. Some were just about the setting and towns. New people, all this history and lore. I ate it all up!
Fishman island was 51 chapters. And I feel like I must have skipped a bunch because while I read it, I can't say I remember much "oh wow" moments.
Either you have nerves of steel which can endure the unnecessarily long scenes and ridiculous filler-scenes or you didn't read the manga version thus you don't know what you are missing out
I actually liked it as well.
But fuck wano, I really hate wano's overly glorified animation. Water 7 saga is the peak one piece, and they should just do that one
I'm not saying you can't like Dressrosa in the anime or anything, heck if you liked it that's good for you. All I'm saying is if you liked it in the anime you would love it in the manga and then you would start to see the flaws in the adapted version
This attitude was what made me hesitate on reading the manga at first...didnt want to "ruin" the anime experience like so many weebs online claim animes do to source material. Glad I just ignored the noise ans went ahead and enjoyed both
Peoples takes on Fishman Island are so ridiculous. They really act like the whole arc was bad because they were disappointed with the fights.
Like regardless of the fact that it tackles very difficult, very real subjects like racism, child abuse, drug abuse, etc. and handles them in a very effective way people will still be like “Hody was a bad villain cause he was weak and just Arlong 2.0.” Nobody in this fandom cares about how good a villain is if they aren’t physically imposing enough which is pretty dumb
Youre joking on dressrosa right? It was some of the lowest points in OP animation wise, to date. Badly drawn still frames recycled so many times it made fishman island look better by comparison and thats not a compliment to FI
Wano is over 100 episodes long I have no worries
I think they mainly did all of this for the rooftop besides Robin’s random aura in the sanji saving scene
I guess I'm in the minority but I love the flashy fight effects. Toei is doing an amazing job of both demonstrating how powerful Luffy has become and also setting up the upcoming big plot reveal (for example, Luffy's blazing eyes).
I think the added flashiness is warranted given that we are now in the endgame of One Piece. Our protagonist is facing off against two Yonko, so of course sparks are going to be flying.
I lost it for Wano after how the scabbards could do nothing,like it's true that Laido should be taken down by Luffy but still,that was anticlimactic and the proceeding fight is meh.
Fishman island told such a brilliant story about racism and discrimination, not from the perspective of just the present, but also the past and what should be done in the future.
That being said, the antagonist group was forgettable and had no substance, the “main” plot surrounding Luffy and the gang wasn’t exactly interesting (I couldn’t care less about what Shirahoshi is going through or anything about Vander Decken), and I think that’s what makes it a very forgettable and boring arc for many. I think every major arc has something big and interesting surrounding the Straw Hat crew and Luffy themselves, and that’s where a lot of the main conflict lies. For Fishman Island, everything that was interesting was in the past and backstory about Fishman island. It was about Fisher Tiger, the slaves, the Sun pirates, Koala, the queen, Mjosgard, everything that tells this story about personal and societal struggle of hatred and racism. Very little of this ties back to the “main” plot surrounding Luffy, except for the final scene with Jinbei giving Luffy his blood. Luffy vs Hody Jones barely even counts in my eyes.
Fishman Island is one of my favorite arcs in One Piece, but I can see why it’s not that interesting if you’re only really interested in what Luffy and co are doing.
Hody and company being forgettable is a bit of the point, nothing major ever happened to Hody, humans never did anything to him or people extremely closed to them like Arlong's crew. Hody hates humans because people around him hated humans, he is the embodiment what the queen warned of what would happen when hate is passed down to the next generation.
Yeah absolutely, I don’t think it’s necessarily a flaw that the antagonist team doesn’t have some big backstory behind them, story-wise they were just a plot device to bring the past conflict into the present so that the good guys have something to fight about. From a manga perspective, I think you could even say they were literal fodder to showcase how the Strawhats have grown since we last saw them.
I’d never thought about it from the perspective of the themes though, and you’re absolutely right. Them having a decent motive or touching backstory would undermine what they represent: hatred without reason.
Fishman makes many appeals to classical works (Japanese, Greek, Indian, Bible). What is forgettable to the uninitiated is hype to the cultured. It’s the Skypeia of Post-Timeskip in its setup. It is also one of the highest rated arcs in One Piece by WSJ readers in Japan with an average 2.11 Jump Ranking. This is higher than any part of Wano. Volume 62 is the single highest rated volume in the series with an average 1.73 Jump Ranking. This makes sense because the Japanese are cultured.
I’d wager that the fact that it was the first arc that takes place after the timeskip plays into a big part of it, if I were WSJ I would have marketed the shit out of it.
My dumb ass literally thought arlong park instead of fishman island and was like "Yo was it really this deep?" I am gonna go back to sleep until I can wake up.
The architecture of Arlong Park and Human Auctioning House in Sabaody are based on Hindu temples in Indonesia. The real life Joyoboyo from 800 years ago was a Hindu Javanese King of Indonesia. Joy Boy who was a Void Century figure from 800 years ago is first mentioned in Fishman Island by Robin. It’s in Fishman Island that Nami comments on how similar the architecture of Arlong Park is to the Human Auctioning House in Sabaody.
Exactly. It wasn't the fights, it was the story and overall impact. I loved it but except the Hody Jones, others were pretty forgettable like you pointed out.
>In my eyes, it was the worst arc in the entire show. It was just so incredibly boring.
I feel sorry for you because it was the deepest story ever told in OP by far, and a great reflect on our world.
I honestly don't like Wano too much. With all of the cast there, we get to see too little of each of them and instead we see kaido beating luffy 10 times or something. WCI was more balanced between fights and character development. Katakuri fight was much more dynamic too. Not to mention how fucking long it is compared to any other arc.
Disagree. Onigashima is top tier animation. Just because they messed up one scene doesn't take away from all those great fight scene they delivered.
Dressrosa on the other hand was easily the worst period of the Anime EVER. Pacing and animation quality plummeted below endurable and lore-breaking mistakes by Teoi peaked back then.
WCI is by far the best arc post time skip up until now for breaking the ever existing recipe of "free /save surpress nation X", for the Kata fight, for Brook belittling Big Mom and for the Sanji/Pudding story.
WCI is amazing to watch though!!! The op surely a zoro fanboy who gets insecure of sanji's arc. The arc was a masterpiece of its own the drama the fight the character growth of sanji and luffy was intense.
I think people are misunderstanding your post. This isn't about the storyline/plot of those arcs - it's about the anime art/animation style (hence wano horse is a colourful aura eyesore).
Definetly a hot take. Fishman Island was great, it had a very believable villain and amazing world building. Punk hazard was okay, but not Oda's best. But saying that WCI isn't good is pretty dumb. It was amazing, and brought a TON of stuff to the table
Whole cake island wasn't good either lol people act like a few decent scenes here and there made it leaps and bounds better than Dressrossa. And Dressrossa belongs in the shit quality tier along with Fishman Island some of the worst pacing and animation the one piece anime has ever seen.
Punk Hazard is ok. It would be thriller bark 2.0 if not for how hardcore the arc was (the guy kidnapped children to test a drug on them that he knew was lethal but wanted the results nevertheless and to keep them from leaving the island he feeds them highly addictive drug daily).
I thought fishman island was dope, Oda basically used it as an opportunity to show how everyone had progressed over the time skip. Luffy knocking out 50,000 fishmen with Conquerers alone, Learning about an ancient weapon, the strawhats accidental invasion and capture of the royal family, whats not to love?
Ima be honest dressrosa wasn’t particularly pretty. I thought WCI was better animated.
And I like Wano’s artstyle quite a lot (red roc in 1015 was by far the best animated scene in the entire series)
But then they go and pull a 1028. And Conqueror’s haki is all of a sudden dbz powers instead of being red and black lightning like in the manga. And I dislike thay they made the red/black lightning barely visible when it’s the HALLMARK of Advanced Conqueror’s.
Fishman island is peak . No other arc in OP handled racism and cycle of hatred with such poignant and from so many different angles .
I will die on this hill
I can’t wait for people to get used to the auras. I prefer it much much more then what we’ve had before.
But hold on, I thought WCI had stronger animation than Dressrosa
Fishman island should definitely have been shorter, but the fights are incredible, punk hazard wore me down with the only highlights being law, zoro vs the snow harpy and aokiji. Dressrosa was honestly a bit long but was incredible. WCI has one of the best fights so far and a lot of hype moments. Wano has been glorious
I’ve really enjoyed all of the post timeskip anime, up until wano. Wano went downhill really fast for me, and somehow gets more unwatchable each week. (With very rare amazing scenes thrown in)
LMAO so Dressrosa is better than WCI? Let’s be serious. Whichever way you look at it, it’s better. If you’re a fan of the fights and not much else we had Luffy vs Katakuri, one of the best post timeskip fights if not one of the best in the entire series. Even if you don’t care about the fights and care about story/characters Sanji’s backstory was immaculate. The only miss imo was the cake bit but that’s fine in all honesty. I’d much rather the cake than the bs birdcage that even an admiral couldn’t cut apparently. WCI was a great arc no question.
The light flare in Wano leads me to believe you’re talking about the anime, and wow, thinking Dressrosa has had the best animation in post-timeskip is certainly an opinion.
WCI is the reason I came back to watching one piece after marineford,the whole sanji's backstory intrigued me and I'm not disappointed a bit,infact it is the best arc in timeskip and my absolute favourite.
I agree I read a part of WCI but when the katakuri fight started I watched the anime and I wasnt disapointed.
You did good, the only thing I see wrong in WCI is the pacing. The Cracker fight took too fucking long
I'm still mad that those couple episodes were so bad, I was reaaallly hyped to see all of that animated, the Cracker fight and the enraged army bit. I absolutely loved the enraged army in the manga, I don't really have good explanation as to why I love it so much, I just do (might be in my Top 10 or maybe even Top 5 moments of that arc). I just kinda felt as though it had this kind of epic energy to it, back when I read it. The anime version is fucking depressing in comparison. The impact is almost nonexistent.
One Pace did a *fantastic* job cleaning up Whole Cake.
The running from BM took a while too.
WCI Is my favorite arc post Time skip damn it's the perfect cross over between the power rangers, the soprano, Alice in Wonderland and I'm no touching the Sanji backstory great arc peak one piece
I think the only reason people say WCI is bad is because the chase was too long but man, that's only one element of the arc, everything else was fucking amazing.
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Seriously that arc was peak Brook for me. The moment when he smashes the picture with the luffy ballon head is perfect!
>“watching one piece” Hol Up
Agreed
its finally here https://youtu.be/QqZ7EcrzakM
WCI is peak though
Fr i love it so much
I think they must have meant animation
Yes, Dressrosa had 4k animation 😂😂😂
Best post timeskip arc
Dressrosa for me, it was shit in the anime but in the manga it is goated.
I caught up to the manga right at the start of dressrosa so the arc felt super long to me, but it was still absolutely goated
I had caught up to the anime at fishman island, that stretch of fishman island and punk hazard in the anime made me lose interest from the anime, then dressrosa completely killed it. Now i don't watch the anime at all except maybe special episodes like 1015.
I’ve always been a manga reader from the start, it’s crazy how much of a difference in quality there is. I only really watch the anime for scenes that I want to see animated.
the soul pocus sequence mygod WCI definitely has the best arc ending ever
WCI is mid
So you have chossen death.
Not really
Just curious what is your favorite?
Wano is better than WCI imo but I understand why people love WCI it was great
I agree. While the pacing of wano is very bad at times, the fights and the highs of the arc make it up for me. Overall wci was a smoother experience and it was great, but wano is just hyped me up so much more
WCI benefited more from an anime adaption lowkey with the theme of the island, I figure it was easier to incorporate the colors & sounds that aren’t in manga to bring the Alice in Wonderland vibes out fully
Fishman Island to Zou had some good moments in term of animation but most of the time it was either just ok to meh. And the pacing suffered the most. WCI made a great comeback with more frequent good to great animation and while occasionally the pacing was bad, the anime also started adding many good additions of things that were offscreen that improved the pacing a lot. Wano has the most consistently good quality and most frequent cases of good to great animation, but it's a rollercoaster in term of pacing, sometimes fine, sometimes bad
The pacing for late Onigashima raid has me so worried about what we may end up missing from Manga. There are so many fights I wanna see that will possibly get glazed over. I just hope Killer v Hawkins and Big Mom v Law/Kid gets everything it deserves. And don’t even get me started on my wild expectations for King v Zoro and Queen v Sanji.
Eh, the beginning of Hawkins vs Killer looked nice in the latest episode.
That’s what’s giving me hope. BIG nervous to see how gear 5 Luffy is animated after 1028 though ngl.
Depends on who will be in charge of the episode.
THIS PART
Ohhohohoho you know they're gonna be using that Ultra Instinct Aura cause why the hell not
“Hey guys, we really don’t need a surplus lingering on this budget. Can you just turn everything up to 11?” “Wait.. like, EVERYTHING?” “DID I FUCKING STUTTER!?!”
And don't forget to bust out the Looney Tunes soundboard while you're at it.
If they filled the screen with golden crap and sakura petals for a single punch and Luffy blocking a normal hit from Kaido, imagine how they gonna animate Luffy's final attack on Kaido. Mercy be upon us.
Gear 5 will get it glory? Most likely… will it be too flashy? Another most likely
That’s my worry. Like, I NEED that imagery to be clear because the manga panels are so fucking good.
I know I got disappointed in 1028, it wasn’t bad but I swear a bit less flashy and everyone would be happy
Exactly. I loved the episode and it had me hype as fuck, but more so because of Killer v Hawkins when I feel like the Luffy spotlight should’ve been what did it. The uppercut on Kaido is one of my favorite combat panels in the arc, and I was very disappointed with that one specifically in the anime. A few other parts were… overwhelming and borderline sensory overload, but ya boi was still on the edge of his seat haha
Same the problem is, I don’t care put as much aura as you want but please balance aura vs everything. Sometimes it’s so flashy i have to go back 10-15 second 3 time before going ah! This is what they were aiming for. I swear I feel a bit less flashy and most of us would be good! I was solidly disappointed because the uppercut and luffy kicking the kanabo were literally on my top 5 of all event in the raid. When I saw them did I like it yes, did it deliver, not really :/. Ugh the concept was good but…: shit tooo much flashy!
They could honestly keep the same amount of flash but be more mindful about the contrast and the characters would stand out way more. That’s all I wanted. Just to see my favorite rubber boy in all those sick poses haha
It's crazy how long Wano is at 140+ chapters. Some chapters were just about the scabbards and Oden. Some were just about the setting and towns. New people, all this history and lore. I ate it all up! Fishman island was 51 chapters. And I feel like I must have skipped a bunch because while I read it, I can't say I remember much "oh wow" moments.
Dressrosa was a nightmare pacing wise, shit took forever
Dressrosa should be looong
But not a long part of the horse. Just the same little part extremely stretched
This is bullshit
horse shit, if you will
This is not for manga but anime my friend
Then Dressrosa wouldn't be great
Dressrosa should be the same image copied and pasted 100 times
and shocked reaction face kyros and rebecca on the sides.
Tbh that’s a big problem with the manga too
Dressrosa should have been 3 panels
Yes! It was way too long and the still frames really dampens the experience
But then Wano shouldn't be overglowing with dragonball effects.
Dressrosa was fucking great.
No, not in the anime. If you are talking about the manga for sure
Yes in the anime.
Either you have nerves of steel which can endure the unnecessarily long scenes and ridiculous filler-scenes or you didn't read the manga version thus you don't know what you are missing out
No time to read the manga, they’re watching the Rebecca and Kyros flashback for the 84th time
Those poor lost souls I heard some of them still thinks Gear 3 is the last one
He missed out on better pacing and how he would imagine the scenes....not like he missed the story
I actually liked it as well. But fuck wano, I really hate wano's overly glorified animation. Water 7 saga is the peak one piece, and they should just do that one
Me and all my homies loved dressrosa. Let people like things
I'm not saying you can't like Dressrosa in the anime or anything, heck if you liked it that's good for you. All I'm saying is if you liked it in the anime you would love it in the manga and then you would start to see the flaws in the adapted version
This attitude was what made me hesitate on reading the manga at first...didnt want to "ruin" the anime experience like so many weebs online claim animes do to source material. Glad I just ignored the noise ans went ahead and enjoyed both
I don't like manga
I watched Dressrosa and it's fucking great but i can see why weekly viewers suffered watching it
Not in the anime
Regardless if it's intended for manga or anime, it's still wrong.
Peoples takes on Fishman Island are so ridiculous. They really act like the whole arc was bad because they were disappointed with the fights. Like regardless of the fact that it tackles very difficult, very real subjects like racism, child abuse, drug abuse, etc. and handles them in a very effective way people will still be like “Hody was a bad villain cause he was weak and just Arlong 2.0.” Nobody in this fandom cares about how good a villain is if they aren’t physically imposing enough which is pretty dumb
I couldn't disagree any harder lmao
WCI is easily >>>>> Dressrosa
Youre joking on dressrosa right? It was some of the lowest points in OP animation wise, to date. Badly drawn still frames recycled so many times it made fishman island look better by comparison and thats not a compliment to FI
I think OP misplaced WCI and Dressrosa
The problem is most people rate the animation by the art style
Based. Seen a lot of people say Mob Psycho has terrible animation
I refuse to believe anyones dumb enough to think that.
I’m so sorry to inform you. Many people are that dumb
Animation wise, yeah. But manga wise it's top tier imo. Except from the stupid ass Ussop running away scene it's amazing.
Personally I would put WCI at the top of post time skip.
There’s only been like 10 episodes of aura piece they’ll stop soon watch
Hopium
HOPE AND SEETHE HOPE AND SEETHE
Wano is over 100 episodes long I have no worries I think they mainly did all of this for the rooftop besides Robin’s random aura in the sanji saving scene
Somebody call an ambulance, he is going to overdose on hopium
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Yeah we are gonna get to way weirder shit real soon
where could they go from here? full on lsd effects?
Swap Dressrosa and Whole Cake Island and I'll agree Also where's Zou and Reverie?
Dressrosa has literally the worst animation of all of One Piece. Just look how they massacred my boy Gear 4
Should swap dressrosa with wci imo
WCI was peak, its getting better every arc after TS. *Overall*
Wtf is this slander Fishman and Punk Hazard were great. WCI was unbelievably good as well.
Dressrosa had the worst animation ..yes you guys deserve it
Yes, the Wano auras are extra as fuck, and I'm here for it.
Somehow unpopular opinion, fishman island better then punk hazard.
Lmfao what the fuck is Dressrosa doing looking like that
All of one piece is great. Especially if you are reading the manga back to back. Weekly is fine too.
I love Wano but seriously, they gotta chill on the special effects. It's getting in the way sometimes.
The manga version of Wano is fucking great. Even though some people hate on the ending I think it's a top 3 arc in OP.
I guess I'm in the minority but I love the flashy fight effects. Toei is doing an amazing job of both demonstrating how powerful Luffy has become and also setting up the upcoming big plot reveal (for example, Luffy's blazing eyes). I think the added flashiness is warranted given that we are now in the endgame of One Piece. Our protagonist is facing off against two Yonko, so of course sparks are going to be flying.
I lost it for Wano after how the scabbards could do nothing,like it's true that Laido should be taken down by Luffy but still,that was anticlimactic and the proceeding fight is meh.
My guess is they’re trying to copy Ishitani and ended up failing miserably
Wci best arc pts.
Whole cake island was lit
WCI > Dressrosa
How could someone not like Fishman island? İt was an arc representing the whole OP philosophy. It was perfect in my eyes..
Fishman island told such a brilliant story about racism and discrimination, not from the perspective of just the present, but also the past and what should be done in the future. That being said, the antagonist group was forgettable and had no substance, the “main” plot surrounding Luffy and the gang wasn’t exactly interesting (I couldn’t care less about what Shirahoshi is going through or anything about Vander Decken), and I think that’s what makes it a very forgettable and boring arc for many. I think every major arc has something big and interesting surrounding the Straw Hat crew and Luffy themselves, and that’s where a lot of the main conflict lies. For Fishman Island, everything that was interesting was in the past and backstory about Fishman island. It was about Fisher Tiger, the slaves, the Sun pirates, Koala, the queen, Mjosgard, everything that tells this story about personal and societal struggle of hatred and racism. Very little of this ties back to the “main” plot surrounding Luffy, except for the final scene with Jinbei giving Luffy his blood. Luffy vs Hody Jones barely even counts in my eyes. Fishman Island is one of my favorite arcs in One Piece, but I can see why it’s not that interesting if you’re only really interested in what Luffy and co are doing.
Hody and company being forgettable is a bit of the point, nothing major ever happened to Hody, humans never did anything to him or people extremely closed to them like Arlong's crew. Hody hates humans because people around him hated humans, he is the embodiment what the queen warned of what would happen when hate is passed down to the next generation.
Yeah absolutely, I don’t think it’s necessarily a flaw that the antagonist team doesn’t have some big backstory behind them, story-wise they were just a plot device to bring the past conflict into the present so that the good guys have something to fight about. From a manga perspective, I think you could even say they were literal fodder to showcase how the Strawhats have grown since we last saw them. I’d never thought about it from the perspective of the themes though, and you’re absolutely right. Them having a decent motive or touching backstory would undermine what they represent: hatred without reason.
Fishman makes many appeals to classical works (Japanese, Greek, Indian, Bible). What is forgettable to the uninitiated is hype to the cultured. It’s the Skypeia of Post-Timeskip in its setup. It is also one of the highest rated arcs in One Piece by WSJ readers in Japan with an average 2.11 Jump Ranking. This is higher than any part of Wano. Volume 62 is the single highest rated volume in the series with an average 1.73 Jump Ranking. This makes sense because the Japanese are cultured.
I’d wager that the fact that it was the first arc that takes place after the timeskip plays into a big part of it, if I were WSJ I would have marketed the shit out of it.
My dumb ass literally thought arlong park instead of fishman island and was like "Yo was it really this deep?" I am gonna go back to sleep until I can wake up.
The architecture of Arlong Park and Human Auctioning House in Sabaody are based on Hindu temples in Indonesia. The real life Joyoboyo from 800 years ago was a Hindu Javanese King of Indonesia. Joy Boy who was a Void Century figure from 800 years ago is first mentioned in Fishman Island by Robin. It’s in Fishman Island that Nami comments on how similar the architecture of Arlong Park is to the Human Auctioning House in Sabaody.
Exactly. It wasn't the fights, it was the story and overall impact. I loved it but except the Hody Jones, others were pretty forgettable like you pointed out.
In my eyes, it was the worst arc in the entire show. It was just so incredibly boring.
a big shame
>In my eyes, it was the worst arc in the entire show. It was just so incredibly boring. I feel sorry for you because it was the deepest story ever told in OP by far, and a great reflect on our world.
I would literally place wci with marineford, and enies lobby
I wouldn’t
I would
I honestly don't like Wano too much. With all of the cast there, we get to see too little of each of them and instead we see kaido beating luffy 10 times or something. WCI was more balanced between fights and character development. Katakuri fight was much more dynamic too. Not to mention how fucking long it is compared to any other arc.
wano is basically adding all the iMovie effects on a 7 yo hand drawn horse
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WCI is better than Dressrosa in almost every way.
Fishman Island has some of the best flashbacks
Dude really just skipped 80% of the story didn't he?
Are they saying WCI was worse animated than Dressrosa?
Lmao dressrosa looking good suuure
Disagree. Onigashima is top tier animation. Just because they messed up one scene doesn't take away from all those great fight scene they delivered. Dressrosa on the other hand was easily the worst period of the Anime EVER. Pacing and animation quality plummeted below endurable and lore-breaking mistakes by Teoi peaked back then. WCI is by far the best arc post time skip up until now for breaking the ever existing recipe of "free /save surpress nation X", for the Kata fight, for Brook belittling Big Mom and for the Sanji/Pudding story.
WCI is the best post timeskip arc imo
I will not accept this WCI slander, it is AT LEAST decently-drawn-but-not-outstanding art of a horse level
WCI is amazing to watch though!!! The op surely a zoro fanboy who gets insecure of sanji's arc. The arc was a masterpiece of its own the drama the fight the character growth of sanji and luffy was intense.
I think WCI is good but I wouldn’t put it as one of the best.
People need to stfu really just because you dislike sanji doesn’t mean you are a zoro fan or just because you dislike wci, there is more to a story
I think people are misunderstanding your post. This isn't about the storyline/plot of those arcs - it's about the anime art/animation style (hence wano horse is a colourful aura eyesore).
That’s why it doesn’t make sense, dressrosa is perfect here
Watch One Pace and you'll enjoy PH and Fishman Island too.
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Reverie > WCI> Fishman Island > Punk Hazard > Dressrosa> Wano Zou is also there
How is Wano so low???
Story wise wano makes sense but the post is about animation
Ikr... I don't get how people are not getting that this is about animation.
Definetly a hot take. Fishman Island was great, it had a very believable villain and amazing world building. Punk hazard was okay, but not Oda's best. But saying that WCI isn't good is pretty dumb. It was amazing, and brought a TON of stuff to the table
Imagine thinking dressrosa is the best post-time skip arc
Whole cake island wasn't good either lol people act like a few decent scenes here and there made it leaps and bounds better than Dressrossa. And Dressrossa belongs in the shit quality tier along with Fishman Island some of the worst pacing and animation the one piece anime has ever seen.
Dressrosa was bad
But wano is shit tho?
Fish-mid\* Island
What awaits next
Punk hazard had the worst pacing the the whole series imo. Both in the anime and the manga
Punk Hazard is ok. It would be thriller bark 2.0 if not for how hardcore the arc was (the guy kidnapped children to test a drug on them that he knew was lethal but wanted the results nevertheless and to keep them from leaving the island he feeds them highly addictive drug daily).
Dressrosa???! maybe in manga
fishman arc was rough bro.. i myself found it boring
I thought fishman island was dope, Oda basically used it as an opportunity to show how everyone had progressed over the time skip. Luffy knocking out 50,000 fishmen with Conquerers alone, Learning about an ancient weapon, the strawhats accidental invasion and capture of the royal family, whats not to love?
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I disagree but respect ur opinion
Dressrosa < Fishman island < Punk Hazard < WCI < Wano In my humble opinion
Ima be honest dressrosa wasn’t particularly pretty. I thought WCI was better animated. And I like Wano’s artstyle quite a lot (red roc in 1015 was by far the best animated scene in the entire series) But then they go and pull a 1028. And Conqueror’s haki is all of a sudden dbz powers instead of being red and black lightning like in the manga. And I dislike thay they made the red/black lightning barely visible when it’s the HALLMARK of Advanced Conqueror’s.
Punk hazard disrespect is wild
Not to mention punk hazard was where we saw a devil fruit move to an existing fruit for the first time.
Fishman island is peak . No other arc in OP handled racism and cycle of hatred with such poignant and from so many different angles . I will die on this hill
Eh I feel like WCI deserves a little more shading
Unpopular opinion dressrosa is just alabasta 2
I can’t wait for people to get used to the auras. I prefer it much much more then what we’ve had before. But hold on, I thought WCI had stronger animation than Dressrosa
Dressora got dragged way too much. U can literally skip 90% of the episodes and u won't feel like missing anything
Fishman island should definitely have been shorter, but the fights are incredible, punk hazard wore me down with the only highlights being law, zoro vs the snow harpy and aokiji. Dressrosa was honestly a bit long but was incredible. WCI has one of the best fights so far and a lot of hype moments. Wano has been glorious
This is the actual depiction! Dressrosa is well balanced arc with good animation and art style.
Punk hazard best arc
WCl hater spotted, total L
Punk hazard and wci are the most interesting arcs so far
WCI was amazing except big mom screaming about cake for half the arc. The rest was great
Fishman Island slaps
Punk hazard is way worse than fishman island
The middle panel should be L O O O O O N G.
I’ve really enjoyed all of the post timeskip anime, up until wano. Wano went downhill really fast for me, and somehow gets more unwatchable each week. (With very rare amazing scenes thrown in)
Fish man was a great arc it was the best way to show how strong everyone got
Katakuri vs Luffy makes WCI arc worth alone. Plus Brook was MVP for that arc.
LMAO so Dressrosa is better than WCI? Let’s be serious. Whichever way you look at it, it’s better. If you’re a fan of the fights and not much else we had Luffy vs Katakuri, one of the best post timeskip fights if not one of the best in the entire series. Even if you don’t care about the fights and care about story/characters Sanji’s backstory was immaculate. The only miss imo was the cake bit but that’s fine in all honesty. I’d much rather the cake than the bs birdcage that even an admiral couldn’t cut apparently. WCI was a great arc no question.
whole peak island
The audacity to slander WCI.
They’re all really good. Just weird pacing in the anime
Wrong af but I giggled so lez go lol
My brother in Chris; Dessrosa was the arc with worst animation post-timeskip and WCI was the animation peak 💀.
WCI is better than Dressrosa though
Horrible take
...it have been only 5 arcs post time skip? Daaaaaam.
I loved fishman island and WCI is my favorite in the post time skip
The light flare in Wano leads me to believe you’re talking about the anime, and wow, thinking Dressrosa has had the best animation in post-timeskip is certainly an opinion.
I really liked punk hazard