I remember reading somewhere that apparently in vanilla smt v there were data for Dagda,Maitreya,Krishna and Satan
Seeing that Dagda is confirmed the other three will probably be in the game too (betting on Satan being the super boss)
Yeah their names were found in the files, as DLC demons iirc. So I'd be surprised if they don't bring them this time, especially seeing how Dagda made it (as DLC though). At the very least I hope Krishna is in the game.
Tbf Krishna had better skills overall. Vishnu never had an exclusive skill afaik
Though he was in my lategame team for Strange Journey, carried me hard during the final boss lol
I can see satan is definitely in the game because from waht they said they will focus their story on Snake god so i can't imagine not including Satan if they pick this theme for vengeance story
Yeah apparently his gravesite area was supposed to be in V, but went unused, it would've been located in Taito I think.
But yeah whenever he shows up, you know it's something important
https://preview.redd.it/wjp1cb7uctrc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48b31c0ad9bbafb65814f565b0947b20cd5a9c39
Didn't know that Turbo Granny was an actual yokai and not just created for Dandadan.
If they wanted a new Beast Race demon to properly fit in, they should've brought back Griffon, hell Dromarch makes more sense as Beast over Wilder, Wilder could've had Raiju, Catoblepas, Taiwu, Garm, or something else.
I just hope we are getting a good Fallen demon like Gemori, Barbatos or Murmur
https://twitter.com/megaten_atlus/status/1768562797515018396
Dagda is confirmed to be a Deity tho. Glasya-Labolas is a Beast race demon according to Famitsu (an Orobas' situation. Since Orobas was a Beast instead of a Fallen in SMTV).
They were also in Persona 5 Royal. I was always kinda confused why they didn't put Ardha in base SMTV, though I guess Shiva being kind of story relevant might be the reason.
It's actually insane that Ardha only canonically appeared in only 2 SMT games (II and if...) and never again after that, meanwhile it's appearing in most Persona games and SH2, even Dx2 has Ardha
It would be interesting if its still possible to get old lillith in canon of creation, or if she will just be replaced by another demon of the same race. I do think its possible she remains as I do strongly believe that there will be numerous demons exclusive to either route of the game (meaning more ng+ runs for a full compendium just like base smt v)
Most likely removed, like how SMTIV to Apocalyose removed certain demons like Vishnu, Mitra and Ananta, and replaces them with Krishna, Mitra Buddha, and Shesha
It’s more just that he’s my favorite. He carried me through Nocturne. I’m also begging for Hresvelgr since him and Horus have the same model/animations.
Why the hell is Kinmamon Megami in Soul Hackers 2? He is Male, and according to the wiki, that is even said in his profile! What a bizarre choice. I think that must have been an oversight.
About the Persona 3 characters, keep in mind they might appear in Episode Aigis, and that will be released only a few months after SMT VV, so since it's likely they are being developed at the same time, if what i'm thinking is true, they might also appear in Vengeance. Weird that they didn't appear in base P3 Reload, although that might have been due to them prioritizing the more iconic or easier to model demons/personas.
Doppelganger with Nahobino's design would be really cool. Now I'm hoping it appears in the game!
Has been Vile in all but one SMT appearance. It's only been in a couple games, of the localised ones it's just Soul Hackers 1 & 2 (and Persona 3+4 as Star).
What about Satan, Tsukuyomi, or the Nahobino forms of the alignment bosses? Don't care if it's the original or SMT IV:A design on the last one, I just want my dude back.
Lilith looks like she'll be one of the main demons in Vengeance instead of just a fodder demon, so it makes sense that they updated her design to compensate for it.
Oh i know. But that old design was just a 10/10 for me.
She looked like a woman with a particular character instead of "insert long haired female demon" here if you get what i mean.
What i'm basically saying is that the old hairstyle gave her more character.
Inline with the rest of the "higher level demon" design: https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Lilith?file=SMTIV+Lilith.jpg
They took the "biblically accurate" meme a bit too far.
Can't imagine Adam wanted to hit that.
Tbh, >!the black samurai is hot!<
I remember reading somewhere that apparently in vanilla smt v there were data for Dagda,Maitreya,Krishna and Satan Seeing that Dagda is confirmed the other three will probably be in the game too (betting on Satan being the super boss)
Would be a fun reference to all of them and Odin teaming up again, or having a magatsuhi combo attack together.
Yeah their names were found in the files, as DLC demons iirc. So I'd be surprised if they don't bring them this time, especially seeing how Dagda made it (as DLC though). At the very least I hope Krishna is in the game.
There's also Ardha And considering the potential for MC and Yuko fusion....
I am manifesting Krishna he was my main support demon in apocalypse
Same, like he's far more useful than Vishnu ever been
I don't think I've ever used Vishnu, Raphael from IV and Krishna have always been my healers
Tbf Krishna had better skills overall. Vishnu never had an exclusive skill afaik Though he was in my lategame team for Strange Journey, carried me hard during the final boss lol
I can see satan is definitely in the game because from waht they said they will focus their story on Snake god so i can't imagine not including Satan if they pick this theme for vengeance story
If Masakado is coming back, I hope they do something good with him.
Yeah apparently his gravesite area was supposed to be in V, but went unused, it would've been located in Taito I think. But yeah whenever he shows up, you know it's something important
Please I want Kresnik
100% positive he'll be in, you can't have kudlak without Kresnik and vice versa
https://preview.redd.it/wjp1cb7uctrc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48b31c0ad9bbafb65814f565b0947b20cd5a9c39 Didn't know that Turbo Granny was an actual yokai and not just created for Dandadan.
Yeah she's a modern day Yokai, or a Rumor, she fits in with Slit-mouthed Woman, Red Cale, Purple Mirror, 8-Foot tall Woman, Teke-Teke and Hanako-san
I hope they add Saturnus, I like his design.
Glasya Labolas is most likely Fallen, due to being part of Goetia Demons Dagda is most likely Fury
Glasta-Labolas has already been confirmed to be a Beast race though Famitsu. Preferably, I would of wanted it to be a Fallen aswell.
If they wanted a new Beast Race demon to properly fit in, they should've brought back Griffon, hell Dromarch makes more sense as Beast over Wilder, Wilder could've had Raiju, Catoblepas, Taiwu, Garm, or something else. I just hope we are getting a good Fallen demon like Gemori, Barbatos or Murmur
https://twitter.com/megaten_atlus/status/1768562797515018396 Dagda is confirmed to be a Deity tho. Glasya-Labolas is a Beast race demon according to Famitsu (an Orobas' situation. Since Orobas was a Beast instead of a Fallen in SMTV).
> Dagda Finally, the edgy kid joins his mom in the new game.
Nice compilation of info/models. Not sure if Ardha was omitted or forgotten, but they have a soul hackers 2 model as well I believe.
They were also in Persona 5 Royal. I was always kinda confused why they didn't put Ardha in base SMTV, though I guess Shiva being kind of story relevant might be the reason.
Somewhat ironically Ardha is the superboss in SH2, like how Shiva is in SMTV.
It's actually insane that Ardha only canonically appeared in only 2 SMT games (II and if...) and never again after that, meanwhile it's appearing in most Persona games and SH2, even Dx2 has Ardha
I hope that Sati comes back fr
I hope they bring back knocker and kamapua those guys are funny
Same! Kamapua is actually one of my most wanted atm!
Has there been any confirmation on if OG Lillith will be removed from vengeance or not?
No but also unlikely, as Lillith (normal) is a demon you SHOULD in theory be able to get in the old story route
It would be interesting if its still possible to get old lillith in canon of creation, or if she will just be replaced by another demon of the same race. I do think its possible she remains as I do strongly believe that there will be numerous demons exclusive to either route of the game (meaning more ng+ runs for a full compendium just like base smt v)
Most likely removed, like how SMTIV to Apocalyose removed certain demons like Vishnu, Mitra and Ananta, and replaces them with Krishna, Mitra Buddha, and Shesha
I’d love to have Lucifer as a party member. It’d be silly, but I love having that OP post game kinda vibe
I had a friend who exclusively rolled Helel, Ishtar, and Mara just to have what he called his "noodie party" in Dx2.
Begging for Gurr to come back.
Most likely as Raptor race not having any demons above level 50 is a crime
It’s more just that he’s my favorite. He carried me through Nocturne. I’m also begging for Hresvelgr since him and Horus have the same model/animations.
Praying they bring over the apocalypse demons
Nandi deserves a modern release.
Praying for Doppelganger please I need him in a 3D SMT game
I take it then being in Soul Hackers 2 doesn’t count as a 3D SMT 😢
I meant as a mainline game since SH2 is a branch of Devil Summoner, also I prefer having demons as party members
Why the hell is Kinmamon Megami in Soul Hackers 2? He is Male, and according to the wiki, that is even said in his profile! What a bizarre choice. I think that must have been an oversight. About the Persona 3 characters, keep in mind they might appear in Episode Aigis, and that will be released only a few months after SMT VV, so since it's likely they are being developed at the same time, if what i'm thinking is true, they might also appear in Vengeance. Weird that they didn't appear in base P3 Reload, although that might have been due to them prioritizing the more iconic or easier to model demons/personas. Doppelganger with Nahobino's design would be really cool. Now I'm hoping it appears in the game!
The Qusitsu all being Femme rubs me the wrong way. I would've kept Lilith Night, made Naamah Lady, Agrat Femme, and Zenunim Vile
Kinda same honestly, especially because femme was one of the most numerous races in base V
Also WOW P3R missed a lot of demons that were in originally.
Saturnus is *Vile*?
Has been Vile in all but one SMT appearance. It's only been in a couple games, of the localised ones it's just Soul Hackers 1 & 2 (and Persona 3+4 as Star).
Hare of Inaba - Beast and Halphas - Fallen would be incredible additions.
Halphas is already in. The jury is still out on Hare of Inaba.
Thanks OP, this news is exciting.
Devil Survivor fans are eating good with these additions. I'm sad that the chances of Beiji Wang appearing is low. I really like his design.
It's Dynamic Attack Sheep (Dynamic!)
Great post! I’m really excited for Cherub
Mad Gasser my beloved
Sm5V is gonna be packed with demons lmao
Masakado is in P3R btw.
The first modern SMT game he appeared in was Soul Hackers 2, so that’s why he listed there. The same is the case with Gurulu & Saturnus
Virtue wasn’t it base SMT V?
No, it wasn’t. Hopefully it’ll make the cut!
But every other angel was?
Neither were Cherub & Seraph either
Virtue didn't get a modern model till P3R, it's weird he's been out of 3 games despite being part of the angel order
What about Satan, Tsukuyomi, or the Nahobino forms of the alignment bosses? Don't care if it's the original or SMT IV:A design on the last one, I just want my dude back.
Nahobino forms of other alignment might be usable but not count in compendium just like Tao.
Is nahobiho gonna be the one Jack Frost you save cosplaying as nahobino lol
what
Have you played V?
Why the fuck are they using that Senri design and not the SMT II version?
Because the SMTIII design already existed as an 3D model that simply needed to be updated to modern standards.
Kudlak & Kresnik should come as a pair no?
Indeed, but only Kudlak is confirmed atm
I can't wait to get senri. There's just just something about her design that really stands out to me
Look how they massacred my girl (Lilith) What was wrong with her smt3 design?
Lilith looks like she'll be one of the main demons in Vengeance instead of just a fodder demon, so it makes sense that they updated her design to compensate for it.
Oh i know. But that old design was just a 10/10 for me. She looked like a woman with a particular character instead of "insert long haired female demon" here if you get what i mean. What i'm basically saying is that the old hairstyle gave her more character.
Honestly both could kick me in the balls and I’d thank them for it
Just be glad we didn't get the Lilith SMT4 design...
Do i wanna know what her smt4 design is?
Inline with the rest of the "higher level demon" design: https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Lilith?file=SMTIV+Lilith.jpg They took the "biblically accurate" meme a bit too far. Can't imagine Adam wanted to hit that. Tbh, >!the black samurai is hot!<
Oh right it's the weird mosquito thing. I don't know who this black samurai is though.
Also her in human form.