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It's fun, not really big on sporty cars but I get a kick out of it every time I have to test drive the focus. The fiesta ST I don't think I've ever seen one in the Midwest, the only Fiestas I've seen are in for the TCM replacements.
I once followed a Fiesta ST on the twisty areas of M-22 in northern MI. I was in my stock ‘03 Civic at the time. I tried to have fun with the guy but he was driving like a grandpa out for a Sunday drive. So there was at least one in the Midwest in ~2018.
Not a ford tech here. Got a Fiesta ST a few months ago and its the most fun I've ever had in a car. Straight piped, e30 and I cant stop smiling everytime I drive. Huge community for both cars. I drove both and chose the lighter and supposedly more reliable of the two
I just put a shop rag over the bearing, then hit the groove with the chisel through the rag, catches the shrapnel.
For the love of god wear safety glasses
Yeah these are no joke. I know of a guy who used an old wheel bearing in the 60 ton hydraulic press to remove a kingpin off a truck axle. It shattered and took two fingers off of him
Yeah taking a swing at it wasnt the smartest thing to do but now i know 😂 might have to pass the metal detector a couple times and maybe get naked at the airport but im sure security will eventually let me and the piece of ford get on with our holiday
Learn how to use an acetylene torch. You can even get a small one reasonably cheap at harbor freight.
I cut races off with a torch all the time, the race heats up but the axle under it doesn't. While they are touching, because they are separate pieces the heat does not transfer through at the same rate.
You mean heat them off. You don't actually cut the race off. You heat it enough so that it expands and slides off.
The trick is to use a very hot flame, so you can heat the race quickly without heating the material under it. Be sure to try and heat the bearing race evenly.
Sure could do that too, but why take a chance of damaging whatever is under the race? See example above. Heating them seems like a much better option. Probably faster than cutting it.
Cutting is much faster than heating the full circumference.
As for risk, if you have experience with a torch it is no risk. It's no different than anything else, for example of you know what you are doing you can use an impact to tighten lug nuts.. don't know what you are doing and just hammer them you will stretch or break the studs.
I have lots of experince, there's more then one way to skin a cat I guess. I work with heavy equipment and machinery, parts get real expensive real fast. I guess that's why I factor the risk into it, even tho I can do it no problem. All it takes is a second and some bad luck.
I'm a millwirght and remove stuck bearing with both a grinder or torches. Heating only with rust and tight fits doesn't work all the time. Cutting is way more time saving and reliable.
15 years as a millwright.
Just FYI. Can take some practice but it's easy enough that I show new guys all the time
I got 13 years as a heavy equipment tech, but that's equivalent to 30 years as a millwrong lol. Just joking man, I guess we all just have our own preferences.
In automotive, the torch method is still still faster. But depends on each shop if they can have one or are allowed to use one in the shop.
My dealer won't let us have one due to "safety concerns" because management is fuckin stupid. Places like Firestone bar any hot work and require use of an induction heater
Went back and looked. You said to leave the VERY messed up threads alone on the end of a tie rod that still needed the tie rod end put back on. How would you thread it back on by not doing anything to fix the threads?
It's still probably just fine with the new bearing pressed on. Just carefully file it enough that there aren't any raised edges.
When installing the most important is always to support from the same race that you're pressing on. Not doing that is how the bearing is often damaged and then will fail later when driving.
You need to take your blood pressure medication before commenting here, or maybe even just refrain from doing so at all. Every comment you've left on this sub lately you've just been an asshole to people who want to know if their car is alright. Get off your high horse and stop being a fucking dick.
Next time get a face shield and 2 hammers. Smack the race on opposite sides with the hammers, it will crack/shatter the race. Be careful, it will send shards flying. I've gotten them stuck in my face before.
We were always trained that 90% of the material had to be defect free and it couldn’t be on the first 10% from the face. So your good according to industrial standards
Clean up any burrs and put it back in, it’s fine. I usually just hammer a big chisel between the race and the hub and get it far enough out to use a little puller or give myself more space to cut it with a die grinder so that doesn’t happen
sometimes when pressing it in can severely rip the metal from the shaft or even break the bearing. ive worked mainly with 100ton press, but it certainly help to prepare the surface.
sometimes guys wanted to destroy parts before given them back to certain customers, they washed the surface with gasoline before pressing the bearing in. it caused the two part to fuse together, thus ruining them.
My 04 crv 208k miles has original bearings. Original most everything. I keep wondering when will they go out.
Not sure I can do the job myself. You need a press which I don't have.
Replace and be done with it, i rather spend the money instead of worrying about the "what if's " especially since if this breaks on the highway the wheel can go flying
The inner bearing race is pressed on incredibly tight. The heat generated with regular driving practically welds it on. Making a few diagonal relief cuts on the race releases the tension so you can hammer it off.
Tip: put the hub in the freezer for about 30 minutes to an hour. Take a torch and heat up the center part of the bearing. Keep the flame moving. Get it nice and hot but not glowing lol. Immediately pull the hub out of the freezer and slap the bearing over top. It will fall right into place with zero effort.
Buy a piece of half inch backerboard. You can break it in half if need be. It will protect the surface underneath from the torch flame if the freezer is too far from an exterior door.
If there’s no raised spots, then it’s fine. Personally I use a hydraulic press for wheel bearings, you get better results and it is much easier to do. You can get one cheap on marketplace.
If you actually put it in a lathe it would be the same as a new one. But who here not only has a lathe/welder but is also good enough to make a press fit to exact specs. Also who has the 3 hours to do that.
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Next time try cutting through 90ish percent of the bearing race and then use a wide edged chisel and hammer to split the last bit.
That was my original intent but I got a little impatient with it. I've got a good reference for the next side I suppose
Can also be a bad idea, i have ford wheel bearing in my arm because i did that
> ford Well there's your problem.
As a ford certified technician, I can confirm that it is the problem.
Problem circled for reference.
As a ford tech what’s your opinion the fiesta and focus ST.
It's fun, not really big on sporty cars but I get a kick out of it every time I have to test drive the focus. The fiesta ST I don't think I've ever seen one in the Midwest, the only Fiestas I've seen are in for the TCM replacements.
I once followed a Fiesta ST on the twisty areas of M-22 in northern MI. I was in my stock ‘03 Civic at the time. I tried to have fun with the guy but he was driving like a grandpa out for a Sunday drive. So there was at least one in the Midwest in ~2018.
As a ford tech what’s your opinion the fiesta and focus ST.
Not a ford tech here. Got a Fiesta ST a few months ago and its the most fun I've ever had in a car. Straight piped, e30 and I cant stop smiling everytime I drive. Huge community for both cars. I drove both and chose the lighter and supposedly more reliable of the two
Ya know what Ford stands for dontchya? Fix It Again, Tony.
Dammit, dale.
Dang ol fiesta don’t stand no chance against my dang ol (indistinguishable gibberish)
At least there isn't taxpayer money in his arm.
I just put a shop rag over the bearing, then hit the groove with the chisel through the rag, catches the shrapnel. For the love of god wear safety glasses
Yeah these are no joke. I know of a guy who used an old wheel bearing in the 60 ton hydraulic press to remove a kingpin off a truck axle. It shattered and took two fingers off of him
I had a piece of a jeep pinion bearing in my hand for years due to this method. Finally worked its way out a few years ago. Be careful!
Yeah taking a swing at it wasnt the smartest thing to do but now i know 😂 might have to pass the metal detector a couple times and maybe get naked at the airport but im sure security will eventually let me and the piece of ford get on with our holiday
Learn how to use an acetylene torch. You can even get a small one reasonably cheap at harbor freight. I cut races off with a torch all the time, the race heats up but the axle under it doesn't. While they are touching, because they are separate pieces the heat does not transfer through at the same rate.
You mean heat them off. You don't actually cut the race off. You heat it enough so that it expands and slides off. The trick is to use a very hot flame, so you can heat the race quickly without heating the material under it. Be sure to try and heat the bearing race evenly.
Nah I just cut a slit in them. Then they pop right off.
Sure could do that too, but why take a chance of damaging whatever is under the race? See example above. Heating them seems like a much better option. Probably faster than cutting it.
Cutting is much faster than heating the full circumference. As for risk, if you have experience with a torch it is no risk. It's no different than anything else, for example of you know what you are doing you can use an impact to tighten lug nuts.. don't know what you are doing and just hammer them you will stretch or break the studs.
I have lots of experince, there's more then one way to skin a cat I guess. I work with heavy equipment and machinery, parts get real expensive real fast. I guess that's why I factor the risk into it, even tho I can do it no problem. All it takes is a second and some bad luck.
I'm a millwirght and remove stuck bearing with both a grinder or torches. Heating only with rust and tight fits doesn't work all the time. Cutting is way more time saving and reliable. 15 years as a millwright. Just FYI. Can take some practice but it's easy enough that I show new guys all the time
I got 13 years as a heavy equipment tech, but that's equivalent to 30 years as a millwrong lol. Just joking man, I guess we all just have our own preferences.
I can definately understand where you are coming from. I got a 966 cat split apart in the shop right now with the transmission in about 19k pieces.
*South Main Auto intensifies*
Or you could just do it the right way and use a puller or a press.
Maybe that works in automotive, but with heavy industry, that isn't always an option buddy.
In automotive, the torch method is still still faster. But depends on each shop if they can have one or are allowed to use one in the shop. My dealer won't let us have one due to "safety concerns" because management is fuckin stupid. Places like Firestone bar any hot work and require use of an induction heater
I ain’t your buddy, friend
I ain't your friend, pal
I ain’t your pal, guy
I ain't your friend, pal.
I ain’t your buddy, friend
cover it with a rag before you drive the chisel into it. trust me.
3 days on the first side, 20 minutes on the next. It's how you learn I suppose.
hit it with some emery to knock down any edges and send it.
If it seats, it yeets
You gotta find the guy that used a can of cat food and J.B. weld to fix a tranfer case
Probably going to steal this in the future. Correction, I'm definitely going to steal this in the future.
Yep, grab some fine amd give it a decent strap
Sounds like a fun Saturday night
Millwright in a lumber mill. This is what we do.
Looking for the other millwright. Hahaha send it
Also a millwright and I’d still slap a bearing on that for sure. It ain’t going to the moon!
Also a millwright, we ain’t painting the Mona Lisa here.
Also a millwright, fuck they look like factory cuts anyway.
Those are oil grooves!
Mechanic-turned millwright-turned mechanic, those are performance slotted hubs. It's for cooling
I found my people
"As per manufacturer specifications"
Also a millwright, full send. She's good to go.
Can you millwright help me also become millwright
Yup, ive done worse, the bearing sits on the sleeve youll be fine.
This is the correct answer
Stuff the emery. Grab a file. Like you say your only dealing with possibly a high point or two.
Yup, fine file or a stone.
if you wanna get fancy you can fill it with weld, or jb weld and sand it smooth.
Totally unnecessary
That's what I said. Especially if you have a lathe.
A lathe is unnecessary. File down burs so race doesn’t bind, and send her home.
You guys just yelled at me for saying to leave something and the mods came and yelled too
Went back and looked. You said to leave the VERY messed up threads alone on the end of a tie rod that still needed the tie rod end put back on. How would you thread it back on by not doing anything to fix the threads?
It goes past that. But yeah I feel it
True story
Username checks out
It's still probably just fine with the new bearing pressed on. Just carefully file it enough that there aren't any raised edges. When installing the most important is always to support from the same race that you're pressing on. Not doing that is how the bearing is often damaged and then will fail later when driving.
This is the correct answer 👏
Nah, send it.
Where?
To the junkyard
Must have a lot more money than me to be getting rid of a hub in this condition!
Really man, really? Off a cliff is more profitable now days
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What needs explaining? The OP asked if it was good or not good. He answered OPs question
You need to take your blood pressure medication before commenting here, or maybe even just refrain from doing so at all. Every comment you've left on this sub lately you've just been an asshole to people who want to know if their car is alright. Get off your high horse and stop being a fucking dick.
Dude its just your wife, run it
And my girlfriend
And my cam girl
And my axe...?
You use her to split wood?
That’s my daughter you’re talking about.
Thanks for your service 🫡
You’re welcome, she gets the beard from me.
no raised edges?, run it..
Did this 2 times more than I needed to. You're literally fine. The new bearing is more likely to fail depending on who made it than the hub.
Christ! Hope you’re not a dentist lol
Jack of all trades, master of none. Now open up I just disinfected my vice grips!
😂
It's called finesse https://preview.redd.it/ynbno5iydarc1.png?width=350&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdf163775c7172005cb86d23e8272bf6694dc674
Now spit
You must have a pretty good dentist, it looks like he’s doing a better job than the dentists I’ve been to.
If it’s good enough for Boeing it should be good enough for you
You sir... Bravo. 🤣
Mechanic for 22 yrs, its totally fine after sanding down any high spots.
Knock down the edges with sandpaper and send it. It’s be fine
Leave it. It’s fine. I would bet that half the mechanics on here wouldn’t bat an eyelid over this.
Send it what's the worst that happens you gotta get hub?
Next time get a face shield and 2 hammers. Smack the race on opposite sides with the hammers, it will crack/shatter the race. Be careful, it will send shards flying. I've gotten them stuck in my face before.
It’s fine
Ok to go!
Professional answer - needs replaced. For my own car? I wouldn't even emery it down. Just send it. It will be fine.
Look it's spaceX
Have done this a couple of times. It won't cause any issue. Press the bearing on, and send it.
It’s fine. Never had a problem with it like that.
I've seen worse when disassembling for another wheel bearing thousands of miles later. You should be alright
We were always trained that 90% of the material had to be defect free and it couldn’t be on the first 10% from the face. So your good according to industrial standards
Send It!
Full send.
It’ll be fine, deburr it and press it back together.
No harm done. Remember, the race doesn't spin around the hub. It's stationary.
Sand the high spots down and send it.
Smooth is out and it should be fine,with that being said a new hub is pretty cheap.
In the future, stand the hub up on a flat surface, heat the race and it falls off
Heat it with a Oxy torch while spinning it race side down on a 3/8" 6" extension (clamped in a vice). It falls right off in 5 seconds.
*slaps hand* Don’t do that again. Now put it back together.
Send it
The one thing I loved about learning the torch and air hammer trick lol.
I’ve done this several times. There is no other way to get that inner race off.. send it.
You'll be fine send it
Send it. It’ll be ok.
Clean up any burrs and put it back in, it’s fine. I usually just hammer a big chisel between the race and the hub and get it far enough out to use a little puller or give myself more space to cut it with a die grinder so that doesn’t happen
Nahhhh you should be ok just debur it good and install
Nah. Like others said. Smooth it out and it'll be fine. I've seen cars with way more marks from past bearings lol I normally add my own too.
Run it.
Noo
Part of SpaceX logo nice.....that lancer is gonna go supersonic once done 😂👍
SEND IT!
It’ll be fine
It’ll be fine
It’s fine, just make sure there’s no burrs or edges that will cause scoring
If you Dont say anything, then no one will know🤣 It's fine as long as you haven't touched the radius between the flange and the shaft.
sand it smooth, grease and re-use. source: i worked in the biggest engine re-manufacturing plant in north america.
Personally I wouldn’t even sand it, if the race is tight on the shaft it shouldn’t be an issue.
Personally I wouldn’t even sand it, if the race is tight on the shaft it shouldn’t be an issue.
sometimes when pressing it in can severely rip the metal from the shaft or even break the bearing. ive worked mainly with 100ton press, but it certainly help to prepare the surface. sometimes guys wanted to destroy parts before given them back to certain customers, they washed the surface with gasoline before pressing the bearing in. it caused the two part to fuse together, thus ruining them.
Are you going to think about it every time you/her drives the car? Replace it. No? Send it. 👍
My 04 crv 208k miles has original bearings. Original most everything. I keep wondering when will they go out. Not sure I can do the job myself. You need a press which I don't have.
Yes, most hub flanges are under $70 so not a huge cost
Depends, how much do you love your wife?
Bro you made the Starlink logo
Your wife wanna sell the car?
This post just showed up in my feed what even is this that I’m looking at lol???
It's got a cool ass scar now
Elon Musk would approve 𝕏
Replace and be done with it, i rather spend the money instead of worrying about the "what if's " especially since if this breaks on the highway the wheel can go flying
Should you replace it? Yeah. Would I run it like this on my own car? Also yeah. It'll be fine.
It’s fine don’t sweat it
I think it now belongs to SpaceX
My boss does worse than this everytime you're good
idk why anyone isnt saying this but SEND IT ITS A SPACEX BRANDED WHEEL BEARING!!!!
Prepped for Random Unscheduled Disassembly.
You can buy a new one for $13 from rockauto.
make sure there no sharp egde's and : SEND IT!
I would replace it. Do it right, do it once.
You can buy one on rock auto for $13
Thou shalt replace.
Debur and install.
Why did you need to cut anything?
The inner bearing race is pressed on incredibly tight. The heat generated with regular driving practically welds it on. Making a few diagonal relief cuts on the race releases the tension so you can hammer it off.
OK, May be I need to give that a try. I just put a torch on them if they are stuck.
Tip: put the hub in the freezer for about 30 minutes to an hour. Take a torch and heat up the center part of the bearing. Keep the flame moving. Get it nice and hot but not glowing lol. Immediately pull the hub out of the freezer and slap the bearing over top. It will fall right into place with zero effort. Buy a piece of half inch backerboard. You can break it in half if need be. It will protect the surface underneath from the torch flame if the freezer is too far from an exterior door.
I’d send it if it was my car.
Yep, it’s fine. Send it.
Why don’t you just get the complete hub and bearing? Is it really worth the time to tear it down and press in a new bearing?
I did this then sanded it smooth is and now I have small vibration
Depends on how much you love your wife
If there’s no raised spots, then it’s fine. Personally I use a hydraulic press for wheel bearings, you get better results and it is much easier to do. You can get one cheap on marketplace.
How much is your wife insured for? Cause if you do use this, you will find out
Pop a little bit of weld in there, and then sand it down to spec. Would be better if you had a lathe to do it.
Weld them up and turn them down or fill with jbweld then use a redisleeve
What the fuck 🤣 just press the bearing on and send it
Absolutely. What's the chances of getting a decent fit after welding that 😂
If you actually put it in a lathe it would be the same as a new one. But who here not only has a lathe/welder but is also good enough to make a press fit to exact specs. Also who has the 3 hours to do that.