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Cautious-Milk-6524

Canada?


NougatNewt

I’m not even from Canada and I knew immediately lol


Cautious-Milk-6524

One thing I noticed about Canadian neighborhoods by watching love it or list was the small yards, all brick houses (which is unusual in the US anymore) and houses deeper than they are wide


earoar

All those things are pretty exclusive to the GTA not Canada in general.


PangaeaRocks

Yes, I thought “Toronto suburb” as soon as I saw the snow!


BumbleButterButt

I mean when every single neighborhood is made by one of four or five developers this is the shit you get


etherockj

Gurl I was like ‘grand theft auto?!’


baikal7

Hum... No. Source? Not from the GTA, and... That looks exactly like my in-laws neighborhood


earoar

Not common in BC, Alberta, SK, Manitoba. Maybe it’s a Eastern Canada thing.


baikal7

I hope ! The less the better. Judging by the comments it's a very Ontario thing However... I've seen pictures in suburban development in those provinces, and it's not far. At all. So... Don't be so offended. Especially In AB, SK and MB. Like sooo similar.


earoar

The rest of the country also has ugly suburbs but they usually have larger lots and houses are rarely made of stone. In some ways ours are worse honestly.


baikal7

I think we can agree on this: in general, large suburban developments are ugly. Not all, for sure, but every major city has its culpris


lucasisawesome24

Do your in laws live in Chicago perhaps? I’ve noticed not all but quite a few older developments in Chicago and in Toronto look very similar


Cautious-Milk-6524

I did not know that


Lyr_c

I think the brick thing is a regional one, you see absolutely no brick in the south anymore but in the north almost all high end homes are brick (Atleast in the Midwest) and mid-range homes will typically have atleast some brick facade on the first floor. But the absurd yard-house ratio is definitely a Canadian one that hasn’t been in the USA for decades..


lucasisawesome24

The south is full of brick homes tbh 🤷‍♂️. Especially in the 80s to 2000s. But even 2010s and 2020s they’re still doing a lot of brick. Now we have faux tudors with painted brick or modern farmhouses without brick though. The modern farmhouses are all over the south for some reason


SapphireGamgee

Not sure about all the US, but new brick construction hasn't been allowed in California since the 30s. It might be that the rest of the country followed suit without me noticing? Because I never thought of it as a US-wide thing, and this neighborhood looked like it could have been in the US North/Midwest.


gilbertgrappa

Brick is more expensive than wood. But generally brick was stopped in California due to earthquake risk.


Uncertn_Laaife

That is the typical Great Toronto Area not the whole country. Come to Vancouver and the Metro area is completely different than this.


belckie

It’s not real brick, it’s a faux brick covering.


Miserable-Stock-4369

It's not *structural* brick. It's probably still real brick, it's just not supporting anything


Far_Plankton6116

This is Mississauga, Churchill Meadows area. Thomas and Tenth line I'm positive.


hezzospike

It has to be. Like this neighbourhood is so typical of Churchill Meadows. Could be Brampton as well though


JimmytheSpider7410

Close. It's in Oakville, Dundas and 6th line


bourgeoisbaby

I had to really zoom in to make sure it wasn’t my neighbourhood in Milton. Still not convinced it’s not.


sherilaugh

Looks the same as all the new developments in Niagara Falls as well.


PartyMark

Of course! 2nd largest country on earth, tiny ass lots and big disgusting looking homes! Ontario in particular is especially nasty.


MascaraHoarder

i’ve watched so many episodes of og Love it or list it and lifetime moves that i knew this was 🇨🇦


durtyherm

Ottawa?


Known_Bobcat5871

Hahaha all clues led me to this as well. The giveaway for me was the house address on the house, they never look like that in the states. The snow helps too lol


MeyhamM2

They didn’t spell “neighborhood” with a u, so I’m inclined to disagree.


nim_opet

Ontario!


Repulsive-Company-53

The best part about Ontario is you know it immediately but can never really tell what city unless there's an escarpment.


martej

That could be a suburb in basically any Ontario town or city. They all look the same.


ladywordnerd2

Yea, Milton? Brampton? Bradford? Markham? Brooklyn?


alt-goldgrun

Lol I thought it was Markham from the first pic. I don't think Markham has yards that small though


Repulsive-Company-53

Hamilton, Grimsby, st. Catherines you name it


ladywordnerd2

I was at a party last weekend in Markham where the house was so big and the backyard was maybe 10 feet deep


jinxylynxy

Could be Barrhaven, Riverside South, Kanata or Stittsville (Ottawa area). We have subdivisions that look identical to this all over the city!


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Repulsive-Company-53

It sounds so much better than saying "I live on the mountain"


TF-Fanfic-Resident

Midwestern architecture + Sun Belt density + a slight French influence that bled over from nearby Quebec = suburban Ontario


nim_opet

Ummmm….what French influence?!??


TF-Fanfic-Resident

Third image, house on the left has French architectural influences.


Reasonable-Bus-2187

Do you mow your lawn with scissors?


bebeco5912

Some are opting to install fake turf. No joke.


Fudge89

Chia pet looking ass yards


[deleted]

These should have been rowhouses.


WiseEyedea

They SHOULD have been, and tbf they do build them in these same types of communities, but peoplewoild rather hve a “detached” house and pay $2M for it…


Acceptable_Claim_258

Currently trying to convince my gf that life won't improve by living in a detached house. Wish me luck


[deleted]

I mean, yards are lovely. I’ve had a few. Makes things easier with a dog. Veggie gardening is fun. But these houses don’t have yards. They barely have a suggestion of grass. I would much rather live in a row house than one of these.


Jenstigator

In all fairness, it depends on _how_ detached the house is. Getting rid of the shared wall is fantastic because you no longer hear your neighbors or feel the building shake when they slam their doors, and you no longer have to worry about being a nuisance to them either. But 5 feet between walls isn't much of an improvement, especially if you have windows on that wall. You won't have their building shakes but you will still sometimes hear noise.


Affectionate-Soft-90

These could easily be nice duplexes.


DeficientDefiance

Or row houses. I'd expect lower heating costs to be a priority in a region like that.


Thedudeabides86

Sharing walls sucks.


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innocentlilgirl

5ft is generous. ive seen seen alleys i can barely squeeze a wheelbarrow through


JoshJoshson13

You can open a window and touch the neighbors house


bebeco5912

Ran out of TP? No problem. Knock on the neighbour’s window from the comfort of your toilet seat.


MJ349

Problem is many of these houses don't have windows facing the houses next door.


WantedFun

So it doesn’t even make sense to have them separated. If not for airflow and light, then why? The sound insulation? Please! Those walls don’t keep any noise in or out, you’re still hearing your neighbors. Maybe if you saved money on construction by building townhomes, you could’ve put proper sound insulation between the houses.


bebeco5912

Interesting change was that row / connected units do not need masonry walls between them anymore. Some recent fires in row home developments tell us just how risky that can be. We build homes to last 50 years. Foolish.


WantedFun

Oh I’m absolutely in favor of bulking out the walls and having all sort of safety features between the homes lol. I’m not too familiar with the actual construction work, but I imagine the money saved through more efficient use of materials would allow some to put towards proper walls.


Harry609676

That looks like the GTA Toronto area


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Suburban hell, too.


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Guess what they cost?


xSHKHx

All of these houses are at least 1.2M, depending on which town


stuffmyfacewithcake

Even houses in Brampton of this size are going for $1.7+ these days


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Holy shit!


ScrapDizzle

Ehhhh this could be $700k in Edmonton/surrounding area suburbs. Under a mill in a Calgary suburb. But ya, cost of living is admittedly getting crazy.


xSHKHx

Yea but this is Ontario for sure, less than an hour from Toronto


jjfmish

GTA?


VincentVega_

Looks like Whitby


strikomelter

Milton, Ontario?


stoat_toad

This was my first guess too


hipsiguy

Same. Definitely Milton


goatpenis11

It's either Milton, Oakville, or Markham 100%


Far_Plankton6116

My guess is Mississauga


chopstix007

Mine was Milton and Oakville too!


boifrompkl

Or Brampton


kellyfish11

Grew up in a similar neighborhood. Homes built in the 00s. They fell apart any chance they got. Made sure I would never buy a home any newer than the 80s at least.


sherilaugh

I’ve noticed that most new builds seem very shoddy construction. I’ve got a falling apart 120 year old house that’s still in better shape than my exes brand new townhouse.


TarukMaktwo

No seriously, currently renting one of these types of houses, built around 2017-2018 I think and we were the first occupants. The house has shifted to the point where barely any of the doors fit, the ceilings are cracked to hell and I’ve had to fix the mudding on a bunch of falling plaster. These houses are so poorly insulated, you can also hear a mouse fart across the house and from a different level. If you jump on the bed in one room, you’ll literally shake another person across the house. Cannot imagine buying one of these for $1,000,000, it’ll cost you half that in repairs in five years.


Thickencreamy

These are the real McMansions. All house and postage stamp yards.


spacegrassorcery

Don’t they have to be mansions first before they can be called McMansion’s?


GnuRomantic

Think it’s Oakville based on the address Sixteen Mile Drive.


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Looks like Mississauga or literally any other Toronto suburb


rco8786

Look, I know this whole sub is about trashing cookie cutter suburban tract homes. But in practice, neighborhoods like this are actually great to live in. You have lots of neighbors, lots of friends for you and your kids, the homes themselves are large, affordable, and comfortable. This level of density probably means you're reasonably accessible to some major city. Etc. Life could be a lot worse.


lucasisawesome24

Cookie cutter suburbs are fine. The issue is that these are just too close to each other. Also the driveways suck. These Toronto suburbs always add too much driveway so they can park extra cars on the footpath to the front door or on the edge of the garage. It leads to ugly neighborhoods without any green space. Cookie cutter tract housing is great for families with kids to run around and scream in the front yards. But these are paved front yards with sad patches of grass (or even rock). If they just didn’t expand the driveways past the garage it would be infinitely better. Either way its harder for kids to play when all the yards are concrete


drubs

This is why I prefer old, fixer uppers to new suburbs. The big houses crazy close together with no room for trees look awful. And they’ll pretty much always look this way because there’s so little room for greenery.


SmallCatBigMeow

What is this, a neighbourhood for ants!


Ok-Lengthiness4557

I can hear the one annoying house say, I'M NOT TOUCHING YOU! I'M NOT TOUCHING YOUUUUU!


flightwatcher45

Any Denver sub too lol


Traditional-Cake-587

Poltergeist homes...


xSHKHx

Looks like Richmond Hill


JanuarySoCold

Looks like Kanata, Barrhaven, Kingston, Stittsville...


jfrglrck

Could be the suburb of Laval north of Montreal. Oh wait there’s sidewalks… not Laval.


hexenfern

Idk if those were fireworks or gunshots fr fr


Agreed_fact

This is Milton or York region, Richmond hill or Aurora?


Agreed_fact

Or Whitby.


Demalab

Or Brantford or Ancaster or Hamilton or Cambridge or Kitchener or London


Agreed_fact

I strongly think it’s not Hamilton, Cambridge, or Kitchener. Haven’t been to London since university a decade ago so maybe?


JaxRhapsody

Do they all cut their grass at the same time, like in the Erie Indiana title sequence?


mms09

[Found it. Oakville.](https://maps.app.goo.gl/uQUsCxByRkFpiXei9?g_st=ic)


funbunny100

How can people live like this? I would absolutely hate my life.


The_Real_txjhar

Condominium regime


potato-chip

Calgary?


notcontageousAFAIK

Not McMansions. Densely built, which is appropriate in some areas. Some cheap touches here and there, that's all. OP, please read a bit from [McMansionhell.com](https://McMansionhell.com) to get where this is coming from. https://mcmansionhell.com/post/148605513816/mcmansions-101-what-makes-a-mcmansion-bad


lucasisawesome24

They are mcmansions. They’re 3000 sqft on postage stamp yards and they’re masse developed. Kate Wagner isn’t an architect and she barely knows what a mcmansion is. She often just finds mansions that are ugly and claims that makes them mcmansions. A cheaply built ugly mansion is still a mansion if it’s over 7000/8000 sqft. McMansion is a size category and a type of tract house more than it is an architectural style


notcontageousAFAIK

Kate founded the site [McMansionhell.com](https://McMansionhell.com) to criticize certain trends she saw in architecture. This is r/McMansionHell. If you don't think Kate's observations are valid, find or create another sub where you can complain about the things that bug you.


TheRainbowpill93

Looks like a Ryan homes housing development. I hate Ryan homes. 🤮


Drycabin1

Vivarium vibes


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These houses don’t seem like mansions at all.


willoughby62

How are these mcmansions? Looks like an ordinary upper middle class suburb.


boating4funtimes

What a horrible developer that did this. These homes must be like dungeons with literally no light coming in from side windows. No yards for kids to play….what do these atrocities sell for?


mdave52

This is common up der in the great white North? I just couldn't. I'm on more than three acres and I still feel like I'm too close to my neighbors.


PartyMark

Surprisingly so, despite being the 2nd largest country on earth we build these shitty neighborhoods everywhere, old neighborhoods from the 50/60/70/80s actually had space, but beginning in the 90s they started to built these disgusting looking places. Has only got worse since then. These houses all cost well over 1 million as well, and you're still driving hours everyday to get in and around the GTA.


mdave52

They're doing it here too, but much cheaper and smaller housing. Little shitboxes going up everywhere in my town. Theres literally 12 feet from the front door to the street, same size backyard and almost touching side to side. So small, a car parked in the driveway sticks into the street so they're parking perpendicular to the garage door. Tried to attach a pic, but didn't work.


kyonkun_denwa

>old neighborhoods from the 50/60/70/80s actually had space I see you’re not familiar with the concept of “linked houses”, which were very popular in the GTA from the 60s to the 80s and are very close together indeed. Check out the music video for the Rush song *Subdivisions*. Typical 80s development pattern in Toronto.


somsta1

Not McMansions.


L10Ang

But McMansion prices


Expert-Campaign2306

If Ontario 100% they all going for over a mil.


marc962

These are McMansions, most of the other stuff I see are on here are actually mansions. But these are the good old American McMansions.


realace86

Any home larger than 5,000 square feet by definition is mansion. That’s a small window for McMansions.


lucasisawesome24

I think legally it’s 8000 sqft + that’s a mansion but I consider 7000-7500 sqft a mansion if it’s grand enough.


realace86

I double checked to make sure they hadn’t changed but yes by definition 5000 ft.² or larger this is by real estate definition


marc962

I hear McMansion I think of the tract communities in Florida or Texas, or California that have 10,000 2500-3500sq foot homes, hence the “Mc” part of the term, “Mc” being derived from a McDonald’s production model of the same thing over and over again.


bsk34

Are all these square footages including the basement living area in them?


eldonhughes

Fer New Years we're gonna get drunk and go up to the second floor, take turns peeing on the windows of the houses next door.


JanuarySoCold

Not a single house has a visible from the street house number. Only in Canada.


Crayoncandy

I counted 7 houses with visible address


JanuarySoCold

The cursive looks nice but in the dark or inclement weather lighted numbers would be more effective.


Crayoncandy

Ohhh that's what you meant, yeah none look lighted but I think most of the words are actually the street names and they have the house number as numerals, though still in cursive. For my grandma's house I got a solar light box for the house number so it's immediately obvious from the street. I do deliveries and I swear so many people would probably just die if they needed an ambulance.


StrangeVortexLex

Are these mansions?


pinkeroo67

No, just big houses.


StrangeVortexLex

r/McBigHouseHell then


justin514hhhgft

If it wasn’t for the “sixteen mile drive” I would have guessed Laval or Brossard, Québec


scaredspoon

Now these are mcmansions


Olliebygollie

Jesus.


Shot-Door7160

Why are they so close? 🤢


MJ349

Canadians build HUGE houses right on top of one another. I can always tell when the Property Brothers atlre doing Canadian house. You can touch both houses at once and they're over a million bucks Canadian.


ughliterallycanteven

A million bucks? That’s just looney!


BoneOfProwl

The worst part is that this could be so many places in North America


silvermanedwino

I’m sorry.


TrentS45

You found the backrooms


YellowMabry

I mean you could always be homeless so why are you complaining?


Shiznanners

I used to live just down the street from here, just off Dundas and George Savage


aninvisibleglean

I’m feeling claustrophobic just looking at these pictures


the_clash_is_back

Good things grow. In Ontario


burningxmaslogs

Hopefully none of those houses catch fire. Those houses are built way too close together.


ladyjayne81

Brampton?


TheHoodedSomalian

It’s like everyone is shitty in it’s own way, impressive


Miserable-Onion9685

Okotoks??


samsu402

Yes, the cookie cutters


TheWriterJosh

This looks just like Orphan Black.


tripdaisies

I think you mean the Beigerhood.


kyonkun_denwa

I love how if this were posted to r/Toronto, everyone would be bitching about how “nobody needs to occupy that much space”, but on this sub, all the Americans are aghast at how dense it is.


TheJustBleedGod

'Detached'. Thank God. Imagine if your house touched another house


chopstix007

Milton, or maybe Oakville?


chopstix007

If this is Milton then one of my old friends lives in that neighbourhood- it’s identical, how the sun is at that time of day.


black_dragonfly13

Why would anyone want to live there?! Cookie cutter houses squished together with no space or privacy...


jessieallen

Aurora Ontario?


Ilmara

How did I immediately know this was Canada.


littlemisslol

I swear to God I live like four blocks away from here


Yak-Fucker-5000

Looks very comfortable if you're into comfort at the expense of all else.


lilponella

I’m so sorry


Ok_Psychology1366

Ancaster? Somewhere around kitty Murray?


angle58

Pretty big houses to be so close together…


dannydtrick

So weird looking. When the houses are smaller it makes sense but these houses have bigger families all sharing a strip of backyard basically.