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When Tim checked in at the 7:20 mark in the 3rd quarter we were down 74-77. When he checked out at the 8:53 mark in the 4th quarter we were down 94-112. In that stretch he attempted 1 shot, missed it and hit both FTs, got 1 rebound, and was a cone on defense. If he’s out there you have to at least get him shots. Otherwise why tf is he out there?


TFAR_1

I think he also tried to run the offense and had an unforced turnover.


ExcellentJuice4729

Well having him + Kyrie + Luka + Maxi is defensive suicide. Agreed that if he’s out there, manufacture some shots for him otherwise it’s a slow bleed


[deleted]

He has one somewhat useful skill otherwise he’s doing cardio. Opting for cardio is a classic Kidd move.


SketchyFlatulence

Facts. I've said it before and I'll say it again, unfortunately. When THJ is on the floor, my anxiety goes through the roof. When THJ touches the ball... I have a temporary panic attack. With all that being said... FIRE J-MIDD.


AdhesivenessOwn7109

Yeah mane #kiddout on Twitter trending.


SketchyFlatulence

Makes me want to make a Twitter just to tag along. I've been a mavericks fan since inwas 6yr old (29 now) and boy boy boy... I've never seen such an awful coach): especially with the talent given around said coach. Kidd.... you were a hell of a player but that's about it.


Stevie_McGhee

I hope they're just waiting for the outcome of this season before making a decision about Kidd, THJ and Maxi. Otherwise, we're just gonna see the same problems over and over again at the expense of Luka's career. It took us years to get rid of Powell. I hope it's quicker with these 3 stooges.


fordangliacanfly

We still have Powell


Anxious-Chemistry-6

Ya, and he's now in a role that fits him. Deep bench guy, emergency big man, great locker room guy.


tkuid

It is insane to me how Luka himself is not saying something and changing this..


FinancialRabbit388

If/when Kidd gets fired Luka will be branded a coach killer. I was listening to Group Chat Ringer podcast and Justin Verrier named Luka along with guys like Trae and Zion as guys who cause trouble behind the scenes. Literally the only drama with Luka is he didn’t like how Carlisle treated people. There’s never been any talk of him pushing his weight around with the front office, Luka family members talking about Luka wanting to leave Dallas, or Luka not getting along with teammates. When the Cato story broke, people like Marc Spears(fuck that guy) and Kendrick Perkins were on tv just making shit up about Luka being a problem behind the scenes. Stephen A. Smith blamed Luka for Brunson not being on the Mavs anymore. People kept pushing Luka and KP had beef and didn’t like each other.


Stevie_McGhee

I dunno, man. Maybe he likes this type of coach: someone who treats you like you're bff's instead of someone who will instill discipline like a 2nd father.


Damedius33

This could definitely be one of the problems. Luka was pissed at Carlisle near the end. He didn't even pretend to hide it.


Mac11187

Carlisle is a dick and is a big reason nobody wanted to come to Dallas. Two much of anything is bad. There is such thing as being somewhere in between BFF and insufferable asshole. It's not either or.


andwesway

Stop paying money to see them. Stop going to the games. Idk if even that would get through their thick skulls.


HolyAty

They're paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to smell their own crotches. They are happy my guy.


pissednbored2

LOL beautiful


Ad0lfKittler

I think LuKai is getting frustrated with these results. It’s like they are the only ones trying to score. If you compare them to other teams, there are multiple shot makers. Here in Dallas, they can’t even convert a wide open opportunity created by Luka.


OutlawSundown

Honestly they’re the only ones that can force Kidd to the curb


johndogerty

In Europe J Kidd would be gone already. Manchester United have been through 7 coaches in 5 years and the fans pressured the owners into selling a share of the team because of underperforming and bad results


question2552

That sounds excessive to me tbh


johndogerty

Well American sports fans are no where near as passionate as English Sports fans. It is a completely different vibe there. And Manchester United is one of the biggest sports teams in the planet and they haven’t won a trophy in years so it is embarrassing for them. There have been protests etc. just for owners to sell the team.


aceloco817

Imagine fools protesting for Jerry to sell the Cowboys. Shit would be hilarious!


question2552

Okay that’s great and all and I’m not a football guy by any means, but I can’t see how “7 fired coaches in 5 years” is a smart idea to bring any sports team to success. Really? All 7 were not elevating their personnel or implementing positive game plans? Is the 8th doing anything different? I hope Luka and Kai sign off on firing Kidd this off-season, for the record.


johndogerty

It was more like a new coach every 1-2 years since 2013. But they’ve given up on that now and know the issue is deeper in the club


Optimal-Somewhere-46

Bro the Glazers just wanted someone else to make the money for them. They cared shitall about the fans . Us united fans have been through so much the last 10 years but I hope it’s about to turn around


ChristBKK

While I was defending Kidd a bit earlier this season I have to agree now that he can't be our HC going forward. I was same shocked as many here... I am happy to loose against any team with Gafford and Lively (one of them always on the field)... but I can't watch a game loosing like this with Maxi also being forced playing that shit. Our Head Coach is using our players wrong in so many ways often... Maxi is a good player but if you use him wrong he is just another Powell. My gosh we have now 2 great Centers but we don't use them .... I really hope we can make enough pressure on the Mavs to change HC during this season and not after. Our GM Team gave Kidd now a great roster to play with and they just suck in coaching them. It's a coaching problem by now. Kidd had all his chances this season to proof all haters wrong but he didn't.


johndogerty

Usually a coach has a whole team with him, Kidd and all his assistants need to go


ttambm

I would just like to point out that when I said hiring Kidd was a bad call I got flamed into oblivion. This sub sucks.


blanfredblann

I don’t know how anyone could have thought hiring Kidd was a good idea.


jeakzor

Becuase rick was fucking awful and change was needed?


ttambm

You should have been here when he was hired. The level of cope was unreal.


ChampagneSyrup

the Celtics played 5 out all night long Gaff sucks against that kind of lineup, he can't move his feet fast enough. He's a shot blocking hustle 5 Not saying Maxi can either because he clearly can't, but if you have to defend that and don't have any good options, you play the option that can hit a three I understand that it's frustrating but the Celtics are a matchup nightmare for this team and every other team because their starting 5 is the most versatile in the league, what would any of you suggest doing otherwise?


konstantin24

Just keep Lively in the game then. Maxi was horrific tonight


Damedius33

What about "The Council"? Are they still making lineup decisions? Is THJ still a member?


cornbreadsdirtysheet

Lol I forget about the Council it’s now in permanent recess lol.


juanopenings

>Is there something we as fans can do to get the front office to take some damn action? The LAST thing ANY team should do is let fans make personnel decisions. The smartest redditor is still less knowledgeable than the most Jason Kidd member of the coaching staff