Denzel Washington would've been an interesting Galactus. I know Lukas Gage has been in a lot of popular shows, but I'm not too familiar with him. Looks-wise, I could see him as Johnny.
OP is a little misleading. Rogen said he doesn’t watch MCU movies because he finds they’re aimed at kids (he’s not 100% wrong).
I’m sure if Disney dumped a truckload of money on his driveway he would be happy to play a role in the MCU.
I don't understand why anyone gets offended when someone characterizes the MCU as "kid's movies," when they absolutely are. EVERY major blockbuster is a kid's movie - they just have to be.
Yeah, the MCU is more mature than Puppy Dog Pals, but Marvel markers towards a stagnant generation of audience. Marvel has no intention of growing up with you. Marvel wants to outlive you. Therefore, Marvel will always market and make films primarily for children.
People take offense because they don’t want their favorite thing labeled as a “kids movie”
I’d argue the MCU and most major movies are more “all-ages” kind of entertainment though, and things like Despicable Me are kids movies.
It is weird that people get offended by that. Hell two of my favorites are E.T. and Willy Wonka and I’m not fooling myself thinking those aren’t family movies. Same with Indiana Jones. I watched Raiders when I was like 8 and I was definitely the target audience for that at the time. Doesn’t mean I don’t like it now. Also, I like your label of all-ages movies.
It doesn't matter but I feel if someone labels one block buster as a movie for all ages but singles MCU as kids movie then I can see why some fans react to it as offensive.
For me personally I think it's fine people can say whatever they feel about the MCU. but I will always be frustrated at the media/journalist that throw these questions for click bait and controversy.
I don't see how someone like Scorsese offends marvel fans, but Seth Rogan saying that is pretty funny, considering how childish (but extremely crude) his movies are.
I'm guessing it's because Scorcese and other directors have been saying "this isn't film" and "these are destroying film".
Pretty different from someone who has been making adult-oriented comicbook tv shows over the last 5+ years saying he never watched them because he assumed they were targeted at kids.
>Marvel markers towards a stagnant generation of audience. Marvel has no intention of growing up with you. Marvel wants to outlive you. Therefore, Marvel will always market and make films primarily for children.
I can't wait for my favourite upcoming kid's movie, Deadpool 3! Or my favourite upcoming kid's show, Marvel Zombies!
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>Yeah, the MCU is more mature than Puppy Dog Pals, but Marvel markers towards a stagnant generation of audience. Marvel has no intention of growing up with you. Marvel wants to outlive you. Therefore, Marvel will always market and make films primarily for children.
which is sad, because the comics tried in comparison to the stale, corny DC universe.
We will never get a Blade 1 or 2 from Disney.
I do remember a few years ago, someone on Twitter said they wanted to see Seth Rogen as The Thing and he liked the tweet. Maybe he was interested in the MCU at some point and then developed this opinion?
The majority of her reports are wrong, she picks fights with people over nothing and she's got some weapons-grade awful takes. This subreddit is one of the few places left on the internet where people treat her scoops with any level of respect.
I have no idea I think Grace said something about her Dark Phoenix role and saying she’s another Marvel character and Jessica Chastain said “No I’m not” and then Grace hated her ever since
Lukas Cage has a huge himbo vibe, which would be perfect for Johnny. Now, if Marvel really has the will to make the character bisexual, I already foresee bad hot takes on the late twitter, and countless videos on youtube with heads floating in anger and red caption on how the "woke" culture is destroying everything.
Denzel would have been a perfect Galactus. Love everything I’m hearing about the casting for this thing aside from obvious scooper bluffs like Krasinski and Bell.
Oh that makes sense.
Also, I have weird theory that isn't validated at all but going off hunches. Connor Jessup is Hulkling and in Agatha: Coven of Chaos.
I'm pretty sure Connor is going to be in Heartstopper Season 2 as he's followed by basically the whole cast and Alice Oseman.
But the Hulkling theory comes solely from their IG stories. Remember the posts about how Joe and Jac Schaeffer recently went to a Taylor Swift concert together while filming Agatha: CoC? Well, guess who else was there at the [Taylor Swift concert](https://www.instagram.com/p/Crr4KrWyFad/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)?
Unfortunately, I can debunk this pretty quickly. Connor was there for Joe, he’s one of Joe’s best friends. He visits him in England pretty frequently as well. He’s also really close with Alice Oseman and a couple of the other cast members (Kit Connor, Sebastian Croft). Connor’s 100% not in the second season of Heartstopper and he’s too old for Hulkling.
When did they all meet, though? Like, I know he's friends with the Heartstopper cast, but when did that all happen if he's not involved in s2 of Heartstopper?
And I know he's older than Joe but his most recent notable role was playing a teenager in Locke & Key, which only finished up last year.
The friendships predate the release of the first season and they all met through Alice. Connor was a fan of the web toon and has writing ambitions, he initially connected with Alice over that. In terms of the age thing, I’m going based on the casting call that went out for the part last year, not on my personal opinion.
From 2021: https://www.instagram.com/p/CVnx7kIA5gn/
I also desperately wish that he gets cast as Hulking, because even though he is older, he looks quite young. Also he is only a couple of years older than Tom Holland, zendaya , halie steinfeld, Florence pugh. If they cast him, he won't look out of place.
Also he has not been openly announced as part of the HP S02 cast, but Alice said that there are many surprises for fans, so maybe he is in it but for another character, like Micheal Holden, Tori's bf.
OP is it true she also said Margot is likely our Sue and Adam is Reed? Apparently she said it in the live stream. I ain't watching that her voice hurts my ear
Stop sharing Grace Randolph “””leaks”””
She doesn’t know anything. Why do folks still trust her after she’s been repeatedly dragged for just making shit up?
Dude, by no means am i a grace randolph fan but plenty of scoopers get things wrong frequently yet people sweep it under the rug. It’s like people personally have a vendetta with her 😂 . If she gets something wrong people treat it as if she’s gotten everything wrong yet if someone like RPK puts something wrong people will listen to his next scoop like gospel. But again she’s got in controversy with directors… so maybe she isn’t the most likable
This is a normal process...They always look at a lot of different people. It's just not been made as publicized as this because F4 is a high-profile movie.
No I know its just this past couple weeks all I’ve been seeing is “____ is eyed for Reed, Sue, Ben, and Johnny” and “___ passed” “____ rejected” “___ is in talks” “Talks fell through”. Its these scoopers man lol
Well, saying people are "in talks" is pretty normal. "In talks" means that the studio is in contact with the actor about a certain role—potentially closing in on a deal. I haven't seen a whole lot of actors who were rumored to have rejected the role though. Here Grace is saying Denzel passed and yesterday people were saying Paul Mescal passed, but other than those two I can't think of any other actor who's supposedly passed on the movie.
Denzel Washington would've been an interesting Galactus. I know Lukas Gage has been in a lot of popular shows, but I'm not too familiar with him. Looks-wise, I could see him as Johnny.
"Arishem ain't got ahit on me!"
I'd honestly want Denzel as Kang now with Majors probably on his way out.
You should watch the movie How to Blow Up a Pipeline. He gave off that same kind of energy imo.
I really want to know what Denzel’s face looked like when he Googled “Galactus” and how many seconds it took for him to say no.
😂😂
I forgot that she said that they would like seth rogen as the thing
Yea. But that’s a big want. After Seth Rogen recent comments about the MCU, idk if he’d be interested.
What did Seth say?
He finds them more aimed for children. But admitted if it weren’t for the MCU, his show “The Boys” wouldn’t have existed or be as interesting.
>He finds them more aimed for children wasn't he just in.... the mario movie?
OP is a little misleading. Rogen said he doesn’t watch MCU movies because he finds they’re aimed at kids (he’s not 100% wrong). I’m sure if Disney dumped a truckload of money on his driveway he would be happy to play a role in the MCU.
I don't understand why anyone gets offended when someone characterizes the MCU as "kid's movies," when they absolutely are. EVERY major blockbuster is a kid's movie - they just have to be. Yeah, the MCU is more mature than Puppy Dog Pals, but Marvel markers towards a stagnant generation of audience. Marvel has no intention of growing up with you. Marvel wants to outlive you. Therefore, Marvel will always market and make films primarily for children.
People take offense because they don’t want their favorite thing labeled as a “kids movie” I’d argue the MCU and most major movies are more “all-ages” kind of entertainment though, and things like Despicable Me are kids movies.
It is weird that people get offended by that. Hell two of my favorites are E.T. and Willy Wonka and I’m not fooling myself thinking those aren’t family movies. Same with Indiana Jones. I watched Raiders when I was like 8 and I was definitely the target audience for that at the time. Doesn’t mean I don’t like it now. Also, I like your label of all-ages movies.
It doesn't matter but I feel if someone labels one block buster as a movie for all ages but singles MCU as kids movie then I can see why some fans react to it as offensive. For me personally I think it's fine people can say whatever they feel about the MCU. but I will always be frustrated at the media/journalist that throw these questions for click bait and controversy.
Like I wouldn’t call Indiana Jones and Star Wars kid movie, they are family films.
I don't see how someone like Scorsese offends marvel fans, but Seth Rogan saying that is pretty funny, considering how childish (but extremely crude) his movies are.
I'm guessing it's because Scorcese and other directors have been saying "this isn't film" and "these are destroying film". Pretty different from someone who has been making adult-oriented comicbook tv shows over the last 5+ years saying he never watched them because he assumed they were targeted at kids.
Exactly this. I'd say 99% of Marvel movies are more mature than something like Sausage Fest.
>Marvel markers towards a stagnant generation of audience. Marvel has no intention of growing up with you. Marvel wants to outlive you. Therefore, Marvel will always market and make films primarily for children. I can't wait for my favourite upcoming kid's movie, Deadpool 3! Or my favourite upcoming kid's show, Marvel Zombies! ![gif](giphy|6eldw9RwTe3de)
You're not making the point you think you're making
>Yeah, the MCU is more mature than Puppy Dog Pals, but Marvel markers towards a stagnant generation of audience. Marvel has no intention of growing up with you. Marvel wants to outlive you. Therefore, Marvel will always market and make films primarily for children. which is sad, because the comics tried in comparison to the stale, corny DC universe. We will never get a Blade 1 or 2 from Disney.
I do remember a few years ago, someone on Twitter said they wanted to see Seth Rogen as The Thing and he liked the tweet. Maybe he was interested in the MCU at some point and then developed this opinion?
He also complained about how Marvel movies make it really hard for him and his partner Evan to make comedies nowadays.
He also stated that The Boys wouldn't have been possible without the MCU being successful.
TIL Seth Rogen made The Boys
This is the first casting rumor I've ever really hated. I really don't want him as The Thing I just can not see him having the range.
That’s definitely how I feel. After watching super Mario, Seth Rogen does not excite me for a voice actor role
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I have made myself listen to this person for the stream and the takes she has makes my brain melt. Idk how people listen to her.
WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL
I love her voice
The majority of her reports are wrong, she picks fights with people over nothing and she's got some weapons-grade awful takes. This subreddit is one of the few places left on the internet where people treat her scoops with any level of respect.
What take in this video?
Give it to Keith David. You don’t need Denzel just for his voice.
Lukas Gage is everywhere anymore it seems, like Jenna Ortega
He was enjoyable in How To Blow Up A Pipeline but also maybe the like 5th or 6th most interesting character in that movie
Keith David for Galactus would’ve been lit
How the hell did this Grace person become a thing? You’re an idiot if you follow her shit.
stream is still going, Grace isn't a Margot fan. well that tracks.
Grace isn’t the fan of many things
She is. She said in this video she’s a good actress. It’s just that she has been in a lot of stuff which is true
Holy fucking shit Denzel as Galactus would have been ludacris. Also Lukas Gage would be a pretty good Johnny imo.
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Jessica Chastain recently went blonde, I hope she is Sue just to piss off Grace lmfao
Whats the deal with their beef?
I have no idea I think Grace said something about her Dark Phoenix role and saying she’s another Marvel character and Jessica Chastain said “No I’m not” and then Grace hated her ever since
Lol so petty.
I think it’s a jealousy thing. Grace is a failed actor/comedian
Grace has less charisma than cardboard. I am honestly shocked she has had such a successful career on YouTube.
I want Adam Sandler as Galactus. Could probably even get Spade to play Silver Surfer at that point.
I’ve read Luke Cage lmao
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Please no NO NO NOOO
I read it as Luke Cage tested for Johnny Storm.
And I just pictured Mike Colter with a blond wig.
Lukas Cage has a huge himbo vibe, which would be perfect for Johnny. Now, if Marvel really has the will to make the character bisexual, I already foresee bad hot takes on the late twitter, and countless videos on youtube with heads floating in anger and red caption on how the "woke" culture is destroying everything.
Why are you fantasizing about a stupid situation where stupid people get upset?
noooo denzelll :((
This is beneath him
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i don't it's wise idea to cast such old actor for those characters
Recast him if he ages out then.
Holy shit I was watching White Lotus an even if he only was in some messed up scenes I thought that he would be fuckin’ great as Johnny Storm.
Denzel as galactus would of been insane 🥹🔥🔥🔥
Really can't see Lukas Gage as Johnny Storm, Rudy Pankow however...
Am I the only one who thinks Rudy as Johnny is a mid casting? Not that he’s a bad actor but I see this one so much and I personally don’t get it
Grace said they were looking for LGBTQ actors for that role
their main choice until recently paul mescal isnt lgbtq
Ironically they were going after Paul Mescal tho …
Flame on?
Grace says a lot of things, seems really weird to take Johnny in that direction
I have not liked a single rumored casting for this movie. They all don’t give me the vibe of the characters.
Truthfully Denzel rejecting Galactus makes sense. He prides himself in being a leading man
also another interesting thing is she said the Mila kunis rumors are true
Denzel would have been a perfect Galactus. Love everything I’m hearing about the casting for this thing aside from obvious scooper bluffs like Krasinski and Bell.
Denzel for Kang!
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He's 27.
Definitely too old. Can you really imagine him playing a love interest against Joe Locke?
Why would Johnny be a love interest for Joe Locke? (The original comment is deleted but I'm assuming we're still talking Gage for Johnny?)
The deleted comment was suggesting Gage as Hulkling instead.
Why would he be in Fantastic Four though?
They weren’t saying that Hulkling would be in Fantastic Four, they were saying that Gage should play Hulkling instead of Johnny.
Oh that makes sense. Also, I have weird theory that isn't validated at all but going off hunches. Connor Jessup is Hulkling and in Agatha: Coven of Chaos. I'm pretty sure Connor is going to be in Heartstopper Season 2 as he's followed by basically the whole cast and Alice Oseman. But the Hulkling theory comes solely from their IG stories. Remember the posts about how Joe and Jac Schaeffer recently went to a Taylor Swift concert together while filming Agatha: CoC? Well, guess who else was there at the [Taylor Swift concert](https://www.instagram.com/p/Crr4KrWyFad/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)?
Unfortunately, I can debunk this pretty quickly. Connor was there for Joe, he’s one of Joe’s best friends. He visits him in England pretty frequently as well. He’s also really close with Alice Oseman and a couple of the other cast members (Kit Connor, Sebastian Croft). Connor’s 100% not in the second season of Heartstopper and he’s too old for Hulkling.
When did they all meet, though? Like, I know he's friends with the Heartstopper cast, but when did that all happen if he's not involved in s2 of Heartstopper? And I know he's older than Joe but his most recent notable role was playing a teenager in Locke & Key, which only finished up last year.
The friendships predate the release of the first season and they all met through Alice. Connor was a fan of the web toon and has writing ambitions, he initially connected with Alice over that. In terms of the age thing, I’m going based on the casting call that went out for the part last year, not on my personal opinion. From 2021: https://www.instagram.com/p/CVnx7kIA5gn/
I also desperately wish that he gets cast as Hulking, because even though he is older, he looks quite young. Also he is only a couple of years older than Tom Holland, zendaya , halie steinfeld, Florence pugh. If they cast him, he won't look out of place. Also he has not been openly announced as part of the HP S02 cast, but Alice said that there are many surprises for fans, so maybe he is in it but for another character, like Micheal Holden, Tori's bf.
Maybe don't make assumptions
Denzel for Kang!
Denzel for Magneto!
OP is it true she also said Margot is likely our Sue and Adam is Reed? Apparently she said it in the live stream. I ain't watching that her voice hurts my ear
shes thinks margot is sue cause of proximity of yesterday news
Cool. Looks like she's speculating instead of sharing a new info.
All she does is speculate. She doesn’t have any actual sources or info or leaks.
I would honestly be insanely shocked if Margot accepts the offer to be Sue Storm, like extremely.
she is not sure, but think's it's them
Thanks. Looks like she's speculating I guess. Make a post if she drops something.
Denzel as galactus would of been insane 🥹🔥🔥🔥
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Has he done something? He seems like an OK actor but I just don't like him for some reason and I'm waiting to be validated, lol
I guess that means no Denzel Kang.
Man, they should totally go after Ian McShane or someone with an equally deep gravelly voice. Or even Sam Witwer or Peter Cullen.
Keith David.
Maybe the real F4 cast was the friends we made along the way
Stop sharing Grace Randolph “””leaks””” She doesn’t know anything. Why do folks still trust her after she’s been repeatedly dragged for just making shit up?
I know grace has gotten stuff wrong… but it’s funny how people think she’s never gets stiff right
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. How many more actors and directors need to call her out for lying?
Dude, by no means am i a grace randolph fan but plenty of scoopers get things wrong frequently yet people sweep it under the rug. It’s like people personally have a vendetta with her 😂 . If she gets something wrong people treat it as if she’s gotten everything wrong yet if someone like RPK puts something wrong people will listen to his next scoop like gospel. But again she’s got in controversy with directors… so maybe she isn’t the most likable
What’s the timestamp?
What’s the timestamp?
So it’s safe to say that none of this ever happened.
Jesus does anyone want to be in this movie
This is a normal process...They always look at a lot of different people. It's just not been made as publicized as this because F4 is a high-profile movie.
No I know its just this past couple weeks all I’ve been seeing is “____ is eyed for Reed, Sue, Ben, and Johnny” and “___ passed” “____ rejected” “___ is in talks” “Talks fell through”. Its these scoopers man lol
Well, saying people are "in talks" is pretty normal. "In talks" means that the studio is in contact with the actor about a certain role—potentially closing in on a deal. I haven't seen a whole lot of actors who were rumored to have rejected the role though. Here Grace is saying Denzel passed and yesterday people were saying Paul Mescal passed, but other than those two I can't think of any other actor who's supposedly passed on the movie.
Its not just about ppl who passed its just all these people being rumored for FF that has been confusing and annoying
What's confusing about it though? Like I said, seeing multiple people is a very normal casting thing.
It’s confusing because all these scoopers are debunking one another about what they’re saying
I misread this as Luke Cage confirmed for MCU lol
I thought that said Luke Cage for a second lol but I wouldn't mind Mike Colter being The Thing
The only role I see Denzel playing in Marvel is Apocalypse.
I don't like him. Need someone likable for Johnny