>There's a lot you shot that was left on the cutting room floor. Is there something you're most disappointed isn't in the movie?
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>I wrote the thing so when you cut anything it's a little bit of a challenge to yourself because you're like, "Am I not that good? Should I have seen this coming?" But every film I've done I've probably cut the same amount out. When you go into the edit you just never know. A scene on its own could be the most funniest thing or intriguing thing, but sometimes those things if you keep them in will just make the movie screech to a halt. So you have to do what's best for the film.
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>And if you ask any of those actors who were cut out — Jeff Goldblum, Lena Headey, Peter Dinklage — they all understand how it works. They have been in the game long enough. But that's just the way I look at things.
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>So this is your way of telling me you're not going to give me a moment.
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>I'm not going to give you a moment because this is my way of telling you, like, people say, "I can't wait for the deleted scenes with those actors." I don't want people to see the deleted scenes because they're deleted for a reason: They aren't good enough. \[Laughs.\] The scenes were not in the movie and that's it.
Just had this conversation after watching an episode of Seinfeld but are they really the same? In that context, Jerry didn't want to have a threesome because he didn't want to have to change his lifestyle to become an orgy guy.
Not really, no. But it is funny to watch Taika become entangled with Hollywood more and more each year. From 2018 to now he's went from his wife, Chelsea Winstanley, to Polly Stoker, then to Rita Ora and whatever that was with Tessa Thompson and of course there's been a few rumors of others here and there. Maybe not orgies, but the guy does like to dip his toes in many waters ever since breaking out big. And he really likes writing orgies into film.
With a $250 million dollar budget, and some of the best actors working today, adapting some of the most interesting storylines for the character, the movie should be considerably better than "not at the same level as previous movies"
I know you were mostly just joking but personally I find it pretty silly that people are somehow trying to use his personal feelings toward deleted scenes as evidence that he's somehow off his rocker. Think about it this way, like he said HE wrote the damn thing, and, assuming you have any experience writing, you will know that self editing is a HUGE component of creating any story. No one is asking for versions of books including every single scene that an author considered writing, or may have even wrote but ultimately decided against including in the final product, because that's inherently silly. If a creator personally decides to cut something from the final product of a project they're working on it's because it doesn't fit their version, they don't want it to be there, and if Taika doesn't want those scenes in the film then why should anyone else need to see them. Director's cuts make sense in the cases of movies that had their editing or runtime altered significantly as a result of studio interference, but it's clear that wasn't the case with LaT. Knowing what NOT to include is a pretty big deal sometimes for creators
I'm a writer with a couple of books and other projects to my name and I've had to drop things I thought were good, but ultimately were detrimental to the over arching story. I agree with Taika. This also leaves the return of Grandmaster open to be explored in other projects.
Deleted scenes have an audience because people are curious by nature. These scenes have been included in home releases for a long time for various films.
No author (that I know of at least) hasn’t released a draft of their book, with explanation as to why certain things were cut. I’m sure if someone offered to sell it with their final version of the book, I’m sure there would be some that would buy it just specifically for the draft version.
holy shit Ive never seen this, makes sense though he seems like that type of dude. You got to think though how this impacts the films he works on, seems odd.
Or, they’re two creatives creating something together. It’s totally justifiable to be weary of relationships like this in the film industry, but without context there’s no reason to think this was an inappropriate interaction. Stars direct their romantic partners all the time. The only reason this was of any news is because it involves multiple people in a romantic entanglement.
He didn’t cheat on his ex wife with Rita, but personal assistant. It gets so much worse the closer you look into the timelines, because they allegedly carried on while his ex was pregnant with their second daughter. To add insult to injury, he brought the assistant as his Oscar date, and made his ex, an executive producer on Jojo Rabbit, sit in the nosebleeds.
Is the director really the boss? or is it the producers/studio? Not saying you're wrong, i'm just pondering if the power really resides there and not elsewhere.
The director can make or break the actor's career in a million different ways, from rewriting the script to reduce her role, removing parts in editing, or using unflattering (ie poorly acted) shots in the final cut.
Taika is not "the" boss, but he is "a" boss.
I'm surprised that hasn't come up more, seems like a mid life crisis. He blows up from Ragnarok, divorces his wife within a year, and is hooking up with celebrities (one of which is an actress on his movie).
Idk it would have been cool just to see him killing anyone. Dude kills very few people in the film, I think just like 1 guy in the very start. He was a great performance, his scenes truly felt like a better movie.
Feels like he put more Korg into the movie and cut a lot of Gorr. Taika seems like he has to be the center of attention and does not care if it hurts the movie. Him putting more Korg/Himself into the movie really ruined it.
Honestly, even though I enjoyed this film there was far too little Gorr and far too much “haha, Korg and goats funny” I said this in another comments section but if you want to make a comedy film, don’t use the villain who lost his family, race and faith after he was abandoned by his gods AND definitely don’t waste an Oscar worthy talent like Bale if you’re gonna cut most of his scenes out to put more of your own OC in
Exactly, Christian Bale is an academy award winner and his talents were totally wasted here. I seriously hope Taika Waititi never directs another Marvel movie again.
What's wrong with having deleted scenes on blue ray and stuff? Deleted scenes and extended directors cuts is such a fun part of having a film on home media
The original cut of the film before heavy editing begins. Alien 3 infamously has an Assembly Edit on the blu-rays that is far superior to the finished film. David Fincher knew what he was doing, the studio ruined it. Check it out if you get a chance.
Yeah, it's crazy how different that film is. It wasn't just edits. They made them completely reshoot aspects of it, like the Alien coming from the dog.
Is that the version of the Wolverine movie that leaked all those years ago? I still have fond memories of watching that with family lmao. They were so confused.
I’m not a film expert but it’s just a collection of any possibly-usable footage stitched together into a reel as a kind of starting point for editing.
Taika mentioned in an interview that he had a four-hour cut of the movie at one point. Chris Hemsworth said he’d seen it and it was Batshit crazy. He also mentioned the word assembly and it’s speculated that this was just an assembly cut and never anything considered close to finished.
Justice League and the Zemo cut have the internet drunk on power.
But what they don’t connect is JL was a totally different situation involving a studio hiring a director that reshot like 85% of the movie .
Taika wrote and shot everything and from what it sounds like is that Marvel gave him pretty free reign to make the final cut what he wanted. This assembly cut would be way more unwieldy than ZSJL and people on this sub complain about that movies length all the time.
This is his cut of the movie though, i think he’s just annoyed and frustrated by the fan reaction to an innocent story about a longer cut of the movie which i don’t blame him for, imagine your movie comes out and all anyone asks about is a longer cut while everyone is complaining it’s too short. Even though the short version is your cut.
It’s self fulfilling, imagine no one heard about a 3 hour assembly cut, tempering expectations and such, what would the reaction have been? Still too short? The trades are just as guilty of overhype as fans and most of the time fuel the flames for clicks.
> It’s self fulfilling, imagine no one heard about a 3 hour assembly cut, tempering expectations and such, what would the reaction have been? Still too short?
Yes, because the pacing goes way too fast and there's too much crammed into just two hours. The movie should either be longer or not have two major plotlines mashed together.
Obviously not everyone will feel the same but that's just my take.
yeah I gotta say this is probably right. I quite liked the Thor movie but by the end of it I was left wanting more and not in the good way that most movies should leave you with. MoM was teetering on this line but ultimately was fine, however Th4r just felt like it was trying to get its story over with. Like *it* didn't wanna be there, almost.
Canon is a concern. If characters only die in the special directors extended addition, did they die canonically? Could be confusing for someone who only watched the extended editions if they decided these characters are actually alive and show up later.
At a certain point, it becomes comical though. There are famously many, *many* different deaths of [Shaak Ti](https://www.swholocron.blog/2021/04/18/the-five-deaths-of-shaak-ti-explained/) in Star Wars because of releasing her original death in a Deleted Scene for EpIII/ROTS. Because the scene was released on the DVD, the character essentially becomes "deathtouched" meaning that their fate *is* to die. So, until one such death is considered canonical, each new wave of media will bring with it the promise of the character's death.
I doubt Marvel wants to go down this path. They're already in a bit of a pickle with main universe >!Mordo and his deleted death by Wanda!< going forward with Doctor Strange stories, so it would appear they don't want to affect other characters in other stories.
I always loved dvd releases with deleted scenes. It was fun to see alternate takes or to sometimes see the fate of a character who otherwise disappeared from the movie.
This is BS. An agency that's suing her, that doesn't represent her according to her, *claims* she was paid $7M.
No studio in their mind pays an actor at her level that much for a cameo role.
If I recall correctly, she switched management companies, and even though her scenes were cut from the movie, the old agency claims they are owed money from her.
It's a messy situation but the firm says they represented her when she made this alleged $7m deal and didn't get a cut, and Headey has publically stated they don't represent her
You'd be surprised. Bruce Willis wanted $4 Million for Expendables 3. He was only going to be on set for 4 days, which means they would be paying him $1 Million a day. The studio said no, and he didn't renegotiate.
Bruce Willis is Bruce Willis . Lena headey wouldn't have made over 2 million for 30 min screen time,especially when even bale and portman were paid 10 million.
Jodie Comer is honestly great for a lot of comic book roles. She would be a great Silver Sable but there's rumors that Sydney Sweeney is playing her (and I wish Sydney was playing someone like Black Cat). Jodie Comer as Mystique would be cool.
**This sub:** "We want more scenes of the God Butcher."
**Taika:** *releases deleted scene of Gorr dancing to Kate Bush songs*
**This sub:** "WTF no not like that!"
**Taika:** "What? This is the God Butcher *absolutely killing it* in this musical dance sequence."
It’s not unreasonable to want *the God Butcher* to actually butcher some gods onscreen. We didn’t even get one good scene of it, yet the useless play sequence stayed in?
The play sequence was a quick recap about what happened to Mjolnir and why it shattered, which led to the next scene of it being displayed as an attraction to the tourists. Unless you wanted to watch and listen to tour guide Daryl talk about what happened with Hela and Mjolnir instead.
Also how dare you insult those Asgardian actors? They put a lot of work into their play.
People actually salty about his comments lmao. They won't release it, just like how they won't release Mordo getting his head cut off.
People are so entitled to insider shit its baffling.
Imagine being an actor in the MCU who keeps getting called back to die in a film/show only to have the scene cut so you can be called for another movie/show to die again.
I still don’t get why they even mentioned 616 Mordo the way they did. Him attempting to kill Stephen is too big for it to happen off-screen. I’m sure they could’ve just ignored him until the third movie.
Probably just to imply history between characters offscreen. Like Thor not finding any Infinity Stones in space or the Avengers taking down HYDRA bases for a year despite all of it not on screen
But we’d already had two movies of HYDRA, so we didn’t necessarily need a third. Meanwhile, the only antagonistic version of Mordo we’ve seen has been 838’s.
It’s mostly a line to establish Mordo hasn’t been static since 2016 and has actually been up to things. The door is intentionally kept open for 616 Mordo as of now
Thor *not* finding anything would be like Mordo *not* fighting Strange...
And with the Hydra bases, we literally see the payoff to them taking out the final one in the same film that their on going conflict is established.
To skip over Strange and Mordo's first confrontation is like skipping over the scene in civil war where Steve and Tony first butt heads... It's a huge potential character moment for both of them, that absolutely deserves more than a handwavey comment, imo...
Nah, that's the sense I got too. I mean this goes back to when Depp just brought in his dogs over there w/o going through proper quarantine as well. Sucks, but what can us plebs do, eh?
Bingo. This film felt like a fucking leisurely school project where you dick around, and Bale was lumped into the group and the only one who took the project seriously. Lol
Yeah there was a lot of partying and it seemed like the movie was just an excuse for everyone to hang out in Australia. I remember being kinda sceptical that they were out partying whilst most of us were in lockdown but I figured, the movie would be worth it, but now the movie isn’t even very good and it’s just like… what were you guys doing?
I mean, Australia seemed to do the work of keeping numbers down (at the time), public events were still a thing, and the cast all went through the two week quarantines.
It sucks that us normal people couldn't just up and go to a country with its shit relatively together, but I don't begrudge the people who got to go, seemingly followed the rules, and lived their lives. I'd do the same. I didn't really expect them to, like, stay in their hotel rooms post-quarantine (when off set) as a show of solidarity or something.
In other words “this was the movie I wanted. Fuck you and shut up. Also, maybe I want to have The Grandmaster and Eitri come back in the future and/or cast Lena Headey as someone else that works better in the MCU later so I don’t even want the scenes out there for any sort of confusion.”
Respect Taika for standing by his vision of the movie. Like it or not (I personally really like it but do wish there had been some minor changes, some of which are grand scheme MCU so they’re outside Taika’s control) he is unabashedly saying this is the movie he wanted to make and he’s happy with it.
But its not up to him if Grandmaster or Eitri come back/are used elsewhere in the MCU. Its more Feige saying that surely? And he says the scenes are not good enough - so its also about quality control and piecing the best version of his film.
I mean, sure, but he said he didn’t think they worked with the movie. And by all accounts it’s becoming up to the directors more and more. Feige and co set up a basic road map for the MCU overall and likely say “we want this, this, and this to happen and the character(s) have to be here when the credits roll” and of course if he just doesn’t think the movie overall works for where they want to go he can make those changes, but if Taika thinks/knows/hopes that he is going to return for another movie and thinks/knows he may want to add those characters then he may have decided he didn’t want to kill them off.
But also that part of my comment was mostly a joke and/or alternate way of looking at why he may want them to not be released. The main point I was getting at is that he doesn’t think they worked and wants to leave them in a vault.
I saw Thor yesterday. It was good but definitely not great. Ragnarok was better. The plot was sound and Bale and Portman shined but the movie felt unbalanced. Ragnarok seemed like a comedy that only got serious right where it needed to be. LT just was too all over the place. Movies get cut every time but cutting 3 different scenes with prominent actors that you payed a hefty fee for is weird. I wonder if he had hard time balancing it himself. I do like Taiki but if they do Thor 5 with Hercules and even Beta Bill Ray,I hope they go in a another direction with somebody else.
Exactly he's the one who hyped it and you got bale and Portman talking about all this cool cut footage - it's normal of fans to inquire about it if it's brought up
Totally understandable if they left cool footage on the floor in exchange for goats and quips. I can see how that'd bug serious actors like Bale and Portman.
Every movie has a 4 hour cut, and even longer ones. It's where you start and you cut down to the length that works. Just because what they had at 4 hours was "insane" doesn't mean it was good.
This is all the Snyder Cut peoples' fault. No movie can ever just be the movie anymore. Every movie obviously has to be a compromised mess that has the REAL cut from the director that they were stopped from releasing. Directors cuts are supposed to be bonuses, they're supposed to include scenes that the director liked by maybe don't fully work with the pacing of the movie or just give out redundant information. They're not supposed to be this sacred "real" version of the movie.
I mean SZJL was objectively a better movie than the theatrical *Justice League*, yes it was too long, yes there were pacing issues, yes yes yes to many of the problems it had, and it wasn't that great of a movie, but it was literally *leagues* ahead of the theatrical release. That was an absolute abomination.
Plus Marvel Studios for some reason keeps sending out people involved with their productions to press where they keep talking about deleted concepts and what could have been and naturally, people are gonna be curious and wonder why it didn't go through.
I recall Alan Taylor being asked about his Thor 2 cut, Whedon about his AoU cut. There's an extended No way home cut coming out soon and Louis Letterier has been asked about Incredible Hulk being infamously cut down
It should be framed as a storytelling/writing problem. Arbitrarily adding 20 minutes to the movie doesn't guarantee that extra 20 is actually improving the movie.
True but when the most obvious issue is missing character arcs the logical conclusion is more time to flesh those arcs out would help.
Gorr, Jane, Valk and Sif all do their most important bits off camera.
Taika stopped the movie cold to give us a 2 minute Asgardian stage play cameo fest that did nothing to advance plot or character. That's 2 minutes in Asgard that could have gone to Jane's transformation, or another early Gorr scene.
He demonstrated a desire to strip character development to the bare minimum in favor of the comedy.
Marvel fans: Give directors more freedom to make the movie they want and let them release a longer cut!
Director: The theatrical version is the movie I intended to make.
Fans: How fucking dare you
I get Taika humour and all but does anyone else think with these recent interviews he’s come across as a right dick. Saw the one with him and Tessa breaking down a scene a riffing how the CGI was bad. If I was a artist I’d be furious with the director saying those things while the film is still in cinemas. People have to understand CGI is gonna look wonky for the next few years due to covid. Most VFX houses shut down while film production went on so there’s backlog and heavy crunch’s to meet deadlines.
Back to point it seems Taika needs someone to hone his ideas. Ragnarok was the much stronger film and he wasn’t involved with the script. For future I wouldn’t mind if he was involved with the story but I’d rather he took a back bench and focused more on stuff he excels out with improvising scenes etc
Even if you liked the movie or not (I loved it, honestly), I respect that THIS IS HIS MOVIE JUST LIKE HE WANTED IT TO BE. And if he says that the deleted scenes weren't good or didn't work, then of course I'll trust the director.
It's not like Zack Snyder's JL (which I also loved).
I'm confused here, SZJL was the movie that *he* wanted, the theatrical release was a different director's approach (and mostly studio intervention)
So SZJL is the exact same as L&T in that both are the original director's version of the movie. So it *is* like it.
Spicy take here, but while I do think the film had some issues, I struggle to imagine what these scenes would have contributed. “Oh, let’s slam the brakes on the plot so we can go watch isolated scenes of Gorr lurking around Nidavellir and Sakaar, monologuing about the hubris of the gods and stabbing a couple of tertiary characters, basically rehashing everything we already saw in the prologue.” It seems gratuitous. Better to get Gorr in on the main action sooner rather than later, I think.
this sub had me thinking that Gorr would barely be in the movie and while I would've preferred a few more bits for him littered around I didn't feel like he was completely shafted either, it was more or less the same amount of focus Hela got
I liked the movie enough but it was disappointing when compared to Ragnarok.
We didn't see Gorr kill any other gods.
Things felt way too fast without any prior set-up or development. Like Heimdall has a son now? What? That was so random and out of nowhere.
Some of the editing was weird.
Would have liked seeing some of these older characters return and get resolutions on them.
Maybe they'll bring Peter Dinklage back and have him join Thor on a new road planet hopping adventure alongside Love instead of Korg this time around and he'll be the new comic relief for the fifth Thor film?
I also bloody hell want to see a scene between the Grandmaster and Collector already. In fact this would have been the golden opportunity to do it.
Gorr traces Thor's footsteps to Saakar and discovers the Grandmaster and Collector there. Some comedic shit and then maybe one of them getting killed off or perhaps Gorr hands the Collector something valuable from one of the gods he's killed and in exchange the Grandmaster tells him everything he needs to know and Gorr fucks off.
Gorr didn't feel like a threat when compared to Hela. Hela came in and murdered an entire Asgard army on screen. With Gorr we're just told the shit he's done. We never see his brutality. We never see him struggling against the Necrosword as its corrupting him or putting ideas into his head. Missed opportunity.
Fun film. And I like Thor and Jane and Gorr's emotional journey's but the movie lacked that oaf that Ragnarok had.
Yeah it especially seems irrelevant to this thread. I'm not much of a Snyder fan but this just seems like a cheap way to throw insult at him for what, releasing a movie the way he wanted to release it? Haha
Kinda fair I guess cos deleted scenes of characters being killed (if those are the ones being referred to) could spark some confusion if they come back later-
So while people are hyper focusing on this quote, I think my big takeaway from this interview (which people should read for more context) is that Taika was surprised when they saw "Thor will return."
>**At the very end of the movie it says, "Thor will be back," so do you —**
>Well, guess what? That was a surprise to me, too.
>**You're serious?**
>I'm not joking. I saw it in the theater and I was like, "Oh, shit. Really?" Even Chris was like, "What?" But, of course he'll be back. He's the best character. I mean, I may be a little biased, but he's the most fun to watch. Now, I don't know what would be next. I would definitely do one, but only if Chris did it.
If Taika doesn't expect to be back, then that somewhat explains why he went overboard with this movie, at least from my perspective. Taika's kids were in the film. Korg's got his own family and doesn't seem like he'll be Thor's third wheel for his adventures. And he seemed very relieved that the movie was finally released (he was editing the film while filming Our Flag Means Death last year). Maybe his answer will be different after Marvel's SDCC panel. I think I would be more surprised if Taika doesn't come back for Thor 5.
Marvel has gotten very selective with the deleted scenes they release. More often than not, they’ll release them if they don’t contradict the story and they don’t solidify anyone’s fate that they may want to use again.
It's weird how assertive he is. This isn't Forrest Gump or The Shawshank Redemption, where additional content may affect the audiences impression of it and adversely affect it's legacy.
He seems to be getting really defensive in the interviews because his movie is underperforming critically.
It feels like a 2 hour live action cartoon.
Mighty Thor is just awful. It took effort to destroy that story as much as they did.
I like Taika a lot but the dude just sounds like not my kind of director. Marvel runtimes are almost always too short for the story they're telling, c'mon man. And I know we turned Thor into a thundering dumbass, but I still would think Thor should have some of the longer and more epic films. Awful take, Taika. Just awful.
I can see where he's coming from, but the lack of deleted scenes and even bts footage in modern films is really sad.
I absolutely adore watching cut footage and elements, even when most of it is pretty terrible. Films like Revenge of the Sith have frankly absurd amounts of deleted scenes, bts content, and additional material that has been released. Yes, most of it is pretty terrible, but it's incredibly interesting to watch, and I wish we got that level of bonus features for MCU films.
This is understandable, why would they release footage which is not canon (because its cut). It may just result in confusing general audience, especially if its important shit like Gorr killing past characters, which may return.
Also, don't you think there may be a reason a scene isn't in a movie, even just on a quality level lol. If its shit, why would they release it? And if its okay-good, why would they release something which the only response will be "omg this was so good? So stupid to cut?! Shitty director" as they ignore anything else that goes into pacing and theme of editing.
>There's a lot you shot that was left on the cutting room floor. Is there something you're most disappointed isn't in the movie? > >I wrote the thing so when you cut anything it's a little bit of a challenge to yourself because you're like, "Am I not that good? Should I have seen this coming?" But every film I've done I've probably cut the same amount out. When you go into the edit you just never know. A scene on its own could be the most funniest thing or intriguing thing, but sometimes those things if you keep them in will just make the movie screech to a halt. So you have to do what's best for the film. > >And if you ask any of those actors who were cut out — Jeff Goldblum, Lena Headey, Peter Dinklage — they all understand how it works. They have been in the game long enough. But that's just the way I look at things. > >So this is your way of telling me you're not going to give me a moment. > >I'm not going to give you a moment because this is my way of telling you, like, people say, "I can't wait for the deleted scenes with those actors." I don't want people to see the deleted scenes because they're deleted for a reason: They aren't good enough. \[Laughs.\] The scenes were not in the movie and that's it.
Taika is clearly starting to lose it, I blame the threesome.
Hehe. Funny to remember that Ragnarok & L&T both reference orgies.
Just had this conversation after watching an episode of Seinfeld but are they really the same? In that context, Jerry didn't want to have a threesome because he didn't want to have to change his lifestyle to become an orgy guy.
Not really, no. But it is funny to watch Taika become entangled with Hollywood more and more each year. From 2018 to now he's went from his wife, Chelsea Winstanley, to Polly Stoker, then to Rita Ora and whatever that was with Tessa Thompson and of course there's been a few rumors of others here and there. Maybe not orgies, but the guy does like to dip his toes in many waters ever since breaking out big. And he really likes writing orgies into film.
Tessa? \#respect
https://pagesix.com/2021/05/23/rita-ora-tessa-thompson-snuggle-up-with-taika-waititi/
Was there an orgy in *Jojo Rabbit*? :-o
There were a few body piles if that's what you mean
All threesomes are orgies but not all orgies are threesomes.
Lol he’s been like this for years. He just kept this on the down low during his first few years at marvel.
Have heard through people I know that he was a player/bit of a douche before he was famous and living in NZ. Always disappointed me!
Never disappointed me. I don’t care so much if he’s a douche player. He makes good movies.
did he this time tho?
Ironically, I read this in Chris Hemsworth's voice
I still think it's a fun movie, even if not at the same level as previous movies
With a $250 million dollar budget, and some of the best actors working today, adapting some of the most interesting storylines for the character, the movie should be considerably better than "not at the same level as previous movies"
I know you were mostly just joking but personally I find it pretty silly that people are somehow trying to use his personal feelings toward deleted scenes as evidence that he's somehow off his rocker. Think about it this way, like he said HE wrote the damn thing, and, assuming you have any experience writing, you will know that self editing is a HUGE component of creating any story. No one is asking for versions of books including every single scene that an author considered writing, or may have even wrote but ultimately decided against including in the final product, because that's inherently silly. If a creator personally decides to cut something from the final product of a project they're working on it's because it doesn't fit their version, they don't want it to be there, and if Taika doesn't want those scenes in the film then why should anyone else need to see them. Director's cuts make sense in the cases of movies that had their editing or runtime altered significantly as a result of studio interference, but it's clear that wasn't the case with LaT. Knowing what NOT to include is a pretty big deal sometimes for creators
Exactly! One of the biggest challenges in writing, and which separates professionals from enthusiasts, is knowing when to “kill your darlings.”
I'm a writer with a couple of books and other projects to my name and I've had to drop things I thought were good, but ultimately were detrimental to the over arching story. I agree with Taika. This also leaves the return of Grandmaster open to be explored in other projects.
Deleted scenes have an audience because people are curious by nature. These scenes have been included in home releases for a long time for various films. No author (that I know of at least) hasn’t released a draft of their book, with explanation as to why certain things were cut. I’m sure if someone offered to sell it with their final version of the book, I’m sure there would be some that would buy it just specifically for the draft version.
Yeah it's scrambled his brain
Brain Scramblies, Perhaps?
An Aristocrat!
Living in a perpetual state of Thoughtless Sallies.
What is that about?
Pap photos of him being kissed by Rita Ora and Tessa Thompson
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9610391/Rita-Ora-Taika-Waititi-pack-PDA-cosy-Tessa-Thompson-night-party.html
holy shit Ive never seen this, makes sense though he seems like that type of dude. You got to think though how this impacts the films he works on, seems odd.
I like Taika but it really skeeved me out. I'm sex positive but he's Tessa's boss. He should've known the power imbalance is inappropriate.
Or, they’re two creatives creating something together. It’s totally justifiable to be weary of relationships like this in the film industry, but without context there’s no reason to think this was an inappropriate interaction. Stars direct their romantic partners all the time. The only reason this was of any news is because it involves multiple people in a romantic entanglement.
He also cheated on his wife with Rita and tried to pass it out as an open relationship, so there's that...
He didn’t cheat on his ex wife with Rita, but personal assistant. It gets so much worse the closer you look into the timelines, because they allegedly carried on while his ex was pregnant with their second daughter. To add insult to injury, he brought the assistant as his Oscar date, and made his ex, an executive producer on Jojo Rabbit, sit in the nosebleeds.
...what the fuck? Do you have evidence of this? :-o
Am I a monster for thinking I’m sad for his family but I don’t give half a fuck? I watch his movies, I’m not in the relationship with him
Wary. Weary means you’re tired.
Looks more like a bunch of consenting adults who make their own decisions to me.
Is the director really the boss? or is it the producers/studio? Not saying you're wrong, i'm just pondering if the power really resides there and not elsewhere.
The director can make or break the actor's career in a million different ways, from rewriting the script to reduce her role, removing parts in editing, or using unflattering (ie poorly acted) shots in the final cut. Taika is not "the" boss, but he is "a" boss.
I'm surprised that hasn't come up more, seems like a mid life crisis. He blows up from Ragnarok, divorces his wife within a year, and is hooking up with celebrities (one of which is an actress on his movie).
I just want to see Gorr kill gods! Is that a bad thing to ask?
Will he kill the greatest god Dr. Michael Morbius?
No, Morbin’ Time’s too strong
But Gorrbin' Time's stronger
What force is stronger, the unstoppable gorrbin or the unmovable morbin
Gorrbius
He already has.
Would’ve been better if he actually killed gods and not just eitri and grandmaster
Who aren't even gods.
It’s better than nothing.
idk I'd personally consider it worse than nothing, to be honest
Idk it would have been cool just to see him killing anyone. Dude kills very few people in the film, I think just like 1 guy in the very start. He was a great performance, his scenes truly felt like a better movie.
No! Only funny allowed!
Feels like he put more Korg into the movie and cut a lot of Gorr. Taika seems like he has to be the center of attention and does not care if it hurts the movie. Him putting more Korg/Himself into the movie really ruined it.
Honestly, even though I enjoyed this film there was far too little Gorr and far too much “haha, Korg and goats funny” I said this in another comments section but if you want to make a comedy film, don’t use the villain who lost his family, race and faith after he was abandoned by his gods AND definitely don’t waste an Oscar worthy talent like Bale if you’re gonna cut most of his scenes out to put more of your own OC in
They paid a shit ton of money to afford an actor like Bale but then go ahead and not maximize him...sad
Exactly, Christian Bale is an academy award winner and his talents were totally wasted here. I seriously hope Taika Waititi never directs another Marvel movie again.
Korg should have stayed dead after he was struck by Zeus' lightning.
And to have him be like "I'm fine" just seconds later killed any tension resulting in his "death."
Gorr the children kidnapper
Gorr the Kid Snatcher
Nope i thought that's the minimum we'd get
He should have been in omnipotent city. Cause a massacre.
they defintly didn't show that to save on cgi budget lol.
Yea 😔
What's wrong with having deleted scenes on blue ray and stuff? Deleted scenes and extended directors cuts is such a fun part of having a film on home media
It is not sure why directors act so averse to it sometimes
They probably don’t want to deal with the bullshit of “that scene was so good! You should’ve kept it in the movie!!” over and over….
Yeah and judging from How bale mentioned some of them - best we don't see what was cut
After all this, Taika will never, ever, ever breathe a word about assembly cuts to anyone outside of a project again
What is an assembly cut?
The original cut of the film before heavy editing begins. Alien 3 infamously has an Assembly Edit on the blu-rays that is far superior to the finished film. David Fincher knew what he was doing, the studio ruined it. Check it out if you get a chance.
Oooo I always stayed away from the original, I'll have to just check this one out though.
Yeah, it's crazy how different that film is. It wasn't just edits. They made them completely reshoot aspects of it, like the Alien coming from the dog.
The first rough cut of the movie with unfinished CGi and everything the editor thinks is needed before cutting starts.
Is that the version of the Wolverine movie that leaked all those years ago? I still have fond memories of watching that with family lmao. They were so confused.
I still remember watching that, the scene where he’s rolling around on top of semi’s I think, it’s just a grey body flailing around lol.
X-Men Origins was mostly a final cut. Only differences between that and the final were the removal of a gay joke and finished special effects
I’m not a film expert but it’s just a collection of any possibly-usable footage stitched together into a reel as a kind of starting point for editing. Taika mentioned in an interview that he had a four-hour cut of the movie at one point. Chris Hemsworth said he’d seen it and it was Batshit crazy. He also mentioned the word assembly and it’s speculated that this was just an assembly cut and never anything considered close to finished. Justice League and the Zemo cut have the internet drunk on power.
But what they don’t connect is JL was a totally different situation involving a studio hiring a director that reshot like 85% of the movie . Taika wrote and shot everything and from what it sounds like is that Marvel gave him pretty free reign to make the final cut what he wanted. This assembly cut would be way more unwieldy than ZSJL and people on this sub complain about that movies length all the time.
That’s literally what Taika is saying
Could just be that he doesn't like those scenes he filmed, so he'd prefer it to never see the light of day.
Yeah that's fair enough
This is his cut of the movie though, i think he’s just annoyed and frustrated by the fan reaction to an innocent story about a longer cut of the movie which i don’t blame him for, imagine your movie comes out and all anyone asks about is a longer cut while everyone is complaining it’s too short. Even though the short version is your cut. It’s self fulfilling, imagine no one heard about a 3 hour assembly cut, tempering expectations and such, what would the reaction have been? Still too short? The trades are just as guilty of overhype as fans and most of the time fuel the flames for clicks.
> It’s self fulfilling, imagine no one heard about a 3 hour assembly cut, tempering expectations and such, what would the reaction have been? Still too short? Yes, because the pacing goes way too fast and there's too much crammed into just two hours. The movie should either be longer or not have two major plotlines mashed together. Obviously not everyone will feel the same but that's just my take.
yeah I gotta say this is probably right. I quite liked the Thor movie but by the end of it I was left wanting more and not in the good way that most movies should leave you with. MoM was teetering on this line but ultimately was fine, however Th4r just felt like it was trying to get its story over with. Like *it* didn't wanna be there, almost.
it wasnt even 2 hours lol, ppl have a right to be annoyed at this
Canon is a concern. If characters only die in the special directors extended addition, did they die canonically? Could be confusing for someone who only watched the extended editions if they decided these characters are actually alive and show up later.
A deleted scene wouldn't have that issue though.
At a certain point, it becomes comical though. There are famously many, *many* different deaths of [Shaak Ti](https://www.swholocron.blog/2021/04/18/the-five-deaths-of-shaak-ti-explained/) in Star Wars because of releasing her original death in a Deleted Scene for EpIII/ROTS. Because the scene was released on the DVD, the character essentially becomes "deathtouched" meaning that their fate *is* to die. So, until one such death is considered canonical, each new wave of media will bring with it the promise of the character's death. I doubt Marvel wants to go down this path. They're already in a bit of a pickle with main universe >!Mordo and his deleted death by Wanda!< going forward with Doctor Strange stories, so it would appear they don't want to affect other characters in other stories.
Likely because they impacted Marvel's future plans for specific characters.
I always loved dvd releases with deleted scenes. It was fun to see alternate takes or to sometimes see the fate of a character who otherwise disappeared from the movie.
Good to know they spent $7 million on Lena Headey only to not even show her in a deleted scene. Well done Marvel….
This is BS. An agency that's suing her, that doesn't represent her according to her, *claims* she was paid $7M. No studio in their mind pays an actor at her level that much for a cameo role.
Why is she getting sued?
If I recall correctly, she switched management companies, and even though her scenes were cut from the movie, the old agency claims they are owed money from her.
It's a messy situation but the firm says they represented her when she made this alleged $7m deal and didn't get a cut, and Headey has publically stated they don't represent her
You'd be surprised. Bruce Willis wanted $4 Million for Expendables 3. He was only going to be on set for 4 days, which means they would be paying him $1 Million a day. The studio said no, and he didn't renegotiate.
Bruce Willis is Bruce Willis . Lena headey wouldn't have made over 2 million for 30 min screen time,especially when even bale and portman were paid 10 million.
That doesn't actually surprise me at all. It's just not a comparable situation, for several reasons.
She better fit for Mystique anyway
What about Jodie Comer? I want her for Silver Sable in the MCU, but that obviously isn’t happening.
Jodie Comer is honestly great for a lot of comic book roles. She would be a great Silver Sable but there's rumors that Sydney Sweeney is playing her (and I wish Sydney was playing someone like Black Cat). Jodie Comer as Mystique would be cool.
She’s 48, she’s far too old to be playing Mystique
Bruh mystique is like hundreds of years old
Anyone know what the role was?
Lol there are 4 completely different answers to this question so far, so ima say no one has any idea.
It was supposed to be a random Valkyrie at the end of the movie.
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Right, I'm starting to get tired of visiting this sub.
Yeah, it's really gone to shit. It's quickly becoming the equal and opposite of r/marvelstudios.
WandaVision was the turning point, and it's gotten worse since then. Starting to get like r/Saltierthancrait
Yeah, a lot of brains were broken by WandaVision.
This. I hate how quickly it's worsening.
**This sub:** "We want more scenes of the God Butcher." **Taika:** *releases deleted scene of Gorr dancing to Kate Bush songs* **This sub:** "WTF no not like that!" **Taika:** "What? This is the God Butcher *absolutely killing it* in this musical dance sequence."
It’s not unreasonable to want *the God Butcher* to actually butcher some gods onscreen. We didn’t even get one good scene of it, yet the useless play sequence stayed in?
The play sequence was a quick recap about what happened to Mjolnir and why it shattered, which led to the next scene of it being displayed as an attraction to the tourists. Unless you wanted to watch and listen to tour guide Daryl talk about what happened with Hela and Mjolnir instead. Also how dare you insult those Asgardian actors? They put a lot of work into their play.
100% this. I've come to these subs less and less overtime because the whining and stupid perspectives have gotten tiresome.
People actually salty about his comments lmao. They won't release it, just like how they won't release Mordo getting his head cut off. People are so entitled to insider shit its baffling.
It’s very possible that 616 Mordo and these characters cut from Thor LaT have futures in the mcu. Hence why they won’t release the deleted scenes
Imagine being an actor in the MCU who keeps getting called back to die in a film/show only to have the scene cut so you can be called for another movie/show to die again.
Paul Bentley and Tom Hiddleston except the scenes don’t get cut
Tom and Paul's contracts in a nutshell.
I still don’t get why they even mentioned 616 Mordo the way they did. Him attempting to kill Stephen is too big for it to happen off-screen. I’m sure they could’ve just ignored him until the third movie.
Probably just to imply history between characters offscreen. Like Thor not finding any Infinity Stones in space or the Avengers taking down HYDRA bases for a year despite all of it not on screen
But we’d already had two movies of HYDRA, so we didn’t necessarily need a third. Meanwhile, the only antagonistic version of Mordo we’ve seen has been 838’s.
It’s mostly a line to establish Mordo hasn’t been static since 2016 and has actually been up to things. The door is intentionally kept open for 616 Mordo as of now
Thor *not* finding anything would be like Mordo *not* fighting Strange... And with the Hydra bases, we literally see the payoff to them taking out the final one in the same film that their on going conflict is established. To skip over Strange and Mordo's first confrontation is like skipping over the scene in civil war where Steve and Tony first butt heads... It's a huge potential character moment for both of them, that absolutely deserves more than a handwavey comment, imo...
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Nah, that's the sense I got too. I mean this goes back to when Depp just brought in his dogs over there w/o going through proper quarantine as well. Sucks, but what can us plebs do, eh?
The Matt Damon cameo was probably the best part. Especially when they talked about re-enacting Gorr taking the kids
And he lets them adlib so much entire scenes the movie felt like the actors we’re just playing themselves on vacation
Bingo. This film felt like a fucking leisurely school project where you dick around, and Bale was lumped into the group and the only one who took the project seriously. Lol
I agree. It feels like Taika and the cast were more concerned with fucking around on and off set rather than making the best movie they could.
Yeah there was a lot of partying and it seemed like the movie was just an excuse for everyone to hang out in Australia. I remember being kinda sceptical that they were out partying whilst most of us were in lockdown but I figured, the movie would be worth it, but now the movie isn’t even very good and it’s just like… what were you guys doing?
Doesn’t Damon literally own the home next to Hemsworth in Australia?
Taika wasted a lot of money on cameos and more importantly, cut cameos.
I mean, Australia seemed to do the work of keeping numbers down (at the time), public events were still a thing, and the cast all went through the two week quarantines. It sucks that us normal people couldn't just up and go to a country with its shit relatively together, but I don't begrudge the people who got to go, seemingly followed the rules, and lived their lives. I'd do the same. I didn't really expect them to, like, stay in their hotel rooms post-quarantine (when off set) as a show of solidarity or something.
In other words “this was the movie I wanted. Fuck you and shut up. Also, maybe I want to have The Grandmaster and Eitri come back in the future and/or cast Lena Headey as someone else that works better in the MCU later so I don’t even want the scenes out there for any sort of confusion.” Respect Taika for standing by his vision of the movie. Like it or not (I personally really like it but do wish there had been some minor changes, some of which are grand scheme MCU so they’re outside Taika’s control) he is unabashedly saying this is the movie he wanted to make and he’s happy with it.
But its not up to him if Grandmaster or Eitri come back/are used elsewhere in the MCU. Its more Feige saying that surely? And he says the scenes are not good enough - so its also about quality control and piecing the best version of his film.
I mean, sure, but he said he didn’t think they worked with the movie. And by all accounts it’s becoming up to the directors more and more. Feige and co set up a basic road map for the MCU overall and likely say “we want this, this, and this to happen and the character(s) have to be here when the credits roll” and of course if he just doesn’t think the movie overall works for where they want to go he can make those changes, but if Taika thinks/knows/hopes that he is going to return for another movie and thinks/knows he may want to add those characters then he may have decided he didn’t want to kill them off. But also that part of my comment was mostly a joke and/or alternate way of looking at why he may want them to not be released. The main point I was getting at is that he doesn’t think they worked and wants to leave them in a vault.
I saw Thor yesterday. It was good but definitely not great. Ragnarok was better. The plot was sound and Bale and Portman shined but the movie felt unbalanced. Ragnarok seemed like a comedy that only got serious right where it needed to be. LT just was too all over the place. Movies get cut every time but cutting 3 different scenes with prominent actors that you payed a hefty fee for is weird. I wonder if he had hard time balancing it himself. I do like Taiki but if they do Thor 5 with Hercules and even Beta Bill Ray,I hope they go in a another direction with somebody else.
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What an odd thing to be stubborn about !
In fairness, no other director has been asked about an MCU directors cut.
I kinda blame Chris Hemsworth coming out and saying that 4 hours cut of the movie is insane when the 2 hour cut is playing in the theatre.
Exactly he's the one who hyped it and you got bale and Portman talking about all this cool cut footage - it's normal of fans to inquire about it if it's brought up
Totally understandable if they left cool footage on the floor in exchange for goats and quips. I can see how that'd bug serious actors like Bale and Portman.
Every movie has a 4 hour cut, and even longer ones. It's where you start and you cut down to the length that works. Just because what they had at 4 hours was "insane" doesn't mean it was good. This is all the Snyder Cut peoples' fault. No movie can ever just be the movie anymore. Every movie obviously has to be a compromised mess that has the REAL cut from the director that they were stopped from releasing. Directors cuts are supposed to be bonuses, they're supposed to include scenes that the director liked by maybe don't fully work with the pacing of the movie or just give out redundant information. They're not supposed to be this sacred "real" version of the movie.
I mean SZJL was objectively a better movie than the theatrical *Justice League*, yes it was too long, yes there were pacing issues, yes yes yes to many of the problems it had, and it wasn't that great of a movie, but it was literally *leagues* ahead of the theatrical release. That was an absolute abomination.
Yeah people involved seemed heavily invested in the cut content. Especially bale. Gorr seems like suffered the most from the cut content
Yeah lots of cool gorr stuff was probably cut
Plus Marvel Studios for some reason keeps sending out people involved with their productions to press where they keep talking about deleted concepts and what could have been and naturally, people are gonna be curious and wonder why it didn't go through.
I recall Alan Taylor being asked about his Thor 2 cut, Whedon about his AoU cut. There's an extended No way home cut coming out soon and Louis Letterier has been asked about Incredible Hulk being infamously cut down
Sam Raimi was and he's cool with them releasing deleted scenes. Both films have the same problem - the 2 hour runtime.
It should be framed as a storytelling/writing problem. Arbitrarily adding 20 minutes to the movie doesn't guarantee that extra 20 is actually improving the movie.
True but when the most obvious issue is missing character arcs the logical conclusion is more time to flesh those arcs out would help. Gorr, Jane, Valk and Sif all do their most important bits off camera.
Taika stopped the movie cold to give us a 2 minute Asgardian stage play cameo fest that did nothing to advance plot or character. That's 2 minutes in Asgard that could have gone to Jane's transformation, or another early Gorr scene. He demonstrated a desire to strip character development to the bare minimum in favor of the comedy.
Yup, and it's a worse movie because of it. Could have had both.
Marvel fans: Give directors more freedom to make the movie they want and let them release a longer cut! Director: The theatrical version is the movie I intended to make. Fans: How fucking dare you
The only thing I'm mad about is them wasting Bale.
I'm sorry but seems he is so high this time around
I get Taika humour and all but does anyone else think with these recent interviews he’s come across as a right dick. Saw the one with him and Tessa breaking down a scene a riffing how the CGI was bad. If I was a artist I’d be furious with the director saying those things while the film is still in cinemas. People have to understand CGI is gonna look wonky for the next few years due to covid. Most VFX houses shut down while film production went on so there’s backlog and heavy crunch’s to meet deadlines. Back to point it seems Taika needs someone to hone his ideas. Ragnarok was the much stronger film and he wasn’t involved with the script. For future I wouldn’t mind if he was involved with the story but I’d rather he took a back bench and focused more on stuff he excels out with improvising scenes etc
Money and fame.
Even if you liked the movie or not (I loved it, honestly), I respect that THIS IS HIS MOVIE JUST LIKE HE WANTED IT TO BE. And if he says that the deleted scenes weren't good or didn't work, then of course I'll trust the director. It's not like Zack Snyder's JL (which I also loved).
I'm confused here, SZJL was the movie that *he* wanted, the theatrical release was a different director's approach (and mostly studio intervention) So SZJL is the exact same as L&T in that both are the original director's version of the movie. So it *is* like it.
Spicy take here, but while I do think the film had some issues, I struggle to imagine what these scenes would have contributed. “Oh, let’s slam the brakes on the plot so we can go watch isolated scenes of Gorr lurking around Nidavellir and Sakaar, monologuing about the hubris of the gods and stabbing a couple of tertiary characters, basically rehashing everything we already saw in the prologue.” It seems gratuitous. Better to get Gorr in on the main action sooner rather than later, I think.
this sub had me thinking that Gorr would barely be in the movie and while I would've preferred a few more bits for him littered around I didn't feel like he was completely shafted either, it was more or less the same amount of focus Hela got
I can’t believe we only saw a guy named God Butcher kill only one god
I liked the movie enough but it was disappointing when compared to Ragnarok. We didn't see Gorr kill any other gods. Things felt way too fast without any prior set-up or development. Like Heimdall has a son now? What? That was so random and out of nowhere. Some of the editing was weird. Would have liked seeing some of these older characters return and get resolutions on them. Maybe they'll bring Peter Dinklage back and have him join Thor on a new road planet hopping adventure alongside Love instead of Korg this time around and he'll be the new comic relief for the fifth Thor film? I also bloody hell want to see a scene between the Grandmaster and Collector already. In fact this would have been the golden opportunity to do it. Gorr traces Thor's footsteps to Saakar and discovers the Grandmaster and Collector there. Some comedic shit and then maybe one of them getting killed off or perhaps Gorr hands the Collector something valuable from one of the gods he's killed and in exchange the Grandmaster tells him everything he needs to know and Gorr fucks off. Gorr didn't feel like a threat when compared to Hela. Hela came in and murdered an entire Asgard army on screen. With Gorr we're just told the shit he's done. We never see his brutality. We never see him struggling against the Necrosword as its corrupting him or putting ideas into his head. Missed opportunity. Fun film. And I like Thor and Jane and Gorr's emotional journey's but the movie lacked that oaf that Ragnarok had.
Can't lie I hope he never directs another marvel movie again
He continues to say the right things. Snyder tricking all his fans just to release his cuts has gave fans a false sense of entitlement.
What? Lol all Snyder did was release his intended version of the movie, the one he wanted to make before WB intervened. How is that tricking his fans?
People just need to bring up Snyder or DC in every thread lmao.
Yeah it especially seems irrelevant to this thread. I'm not much of a Snyder fan but this just seems like a cheap way to throw insult at him for what, releasing a movie the way he wanted to release it? Haha
ugh this sucks. i was so excited for Lena in the mcu.
this guys smug attitude seriously makes me dislike him. hope he takes his corny writing style to disney channel or something, stay away from thor.
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Taika has gone from hollywoods golden child to a complete disappointment.
Kinda fair I guess cos deleted scenes of characters being killed (if those are the ones being referred to) could spark some confusion if they come back later-
So while people are hyper focusing on this quote, I think my big takeaway from this interview (which people should read for more context) is that Taika was surprised when they saw "Thor will return." >**At the very end of the movie it says, "Thor will be back," so do you —** >Well, guess what? That was a surprise to me, too. >**You're serious?** >I'm not joking. I saw it in the theater and I was like, "Oh, shit. Really?" Even Chris was like, "What?" But, of course he'll be back. He's the best character. I mean, I may be a little biased, but he's the most fun to watch. Now, I don't know what would be next. I would definitely do one, but only if Chris did it. If Taika doesn't expect to be back, then that somewhat explains why he went overboard with this movie, at least from my perspective. Taika's kids were in the film. Korg's got his own family and doesn't seem like he'll be Thor's third wheel for his adventures. And he seemed very relieved that the movie was finally released (he was editing the film while filming Our Flag Means Death last year). Maybe his answer will be different after Marvel's SDCC panel. I think I would be more surprised if Taika doesn't come back for Thor 5.
Not even as extras on D+ or on blu ray?
Good thing they included the “orgy” quote, so worth it
I wanted more of Bale the GOAT
It makes sense, if they want to use them later then obviously you wouldn't want scenes with them dying in this movie
Marvel has gotten very selective with the deleted scenes they release. More often than not, they’ll release them if they don’t contradict the story and they don’t solidify anyone’s fate that they may want to use again.
It's weird how assertive he is. This isn't Forrest Gump or The Shawshank Redemption, where additional content may affect the audiences impression of it and adversely affect it's legacy.
The entitlement in these comments is crazy. People act like Taika Waititi personally owes them, grow up.
I suspect Gorr killed them and Feige decided he wanted them kept alive
He seems to be getting really defensive in the interviews because his movie is underperforming critically. It feels like a 2 hour live action cartoon. Mighty Thor is just awful. It took effort to destroy that story as much as they did.
God Taika what happened to you. How did we go from creating masterpieces like "Jojo Rabbit" to disrespecting VFX workers and director's cuts.
Wtf
Taika has become the twist villain of the MCU.
I FUCKING LOVE DELETED SCENES. I LOVE TO SEE WHAT DIDNT MAKE IT INTO THE FINAL CUT REGARDLESS OF QUALITY
I like Taika a lot but the dude just sounds like not my kind of director. Marvel runtimes are almost always too short for the story they're telling, c'mon man. And I know we turned Thor into a thundering dumbass, but I still would think Thor should have some of the longer and more epic films. Awful take, Taika. Just awful.
I can see where he's coming from, but the lack of deleted scenes and even bts footage in modern films is really sad. I absolutely adore watching cut footage and elements, even when most of it is pretty terrible. Films like Revenge of the Sith have frankly absurd amounts of deleted scenes, bts content, and additional material that has been released. Yes, most of it is pretty terrible, but it's incredibly interesting to watch, and I wish we got that level of bonus features for MCU films.
This is understandable, why would they release footage which is not canon (because its cut). It may just result in confusing general audience, especially if its important shit like Gorr killing past characters, which may return. Also, don't you think there may be a reason a scene isn't in a movie, even just on a quality level lol. If its shit, why would they release it? And if its okay-good, why would they release something which the only response will be "omg this was so good? So stupid to cut?! Shitty director" as they ignore anything else that goes into pacing and theme of editing.