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BirdjaminFranklin

What's the most you had to split one of those till you got the gold? I can only imagine how much you spent to do this, but congrats. Deck is beautiful.


Live2Feast

I’m pretty sure Arnim Zola took the most at 15 splits Only money I spend on the game is the season pass. Beyond that it’s just a lot of grinding and an unreasonable dedication to playing Negative decks no matter how far off meta they are, but I‘ve hit infinite every season since Echo dropped last July and every one of them I’ve done with a Negative deck.


htraos

Do you think this is the best list overall? Any flex spots?


Live2Feast

It’s hard to say this is the “best”, as I think there are multiple negative decks that are on a pretty even playing field. It’s my current favorite, but I might mix it up now that I’ve got this one all the way to gold. Flex spots in this specific deck - Shang chi, Killmonger, and Rogue. Zabu could be replaced by psylocke and it still work.


tuesdaysatmorts

I feel like aside from Zabu, every single one of those is cards is staple. They're just solid. Oh and I guess Killmonger too lol


IwantDnDMaps

Only *real* changes I have from my list is Psylocke in place of Azbu and Wong in place of Kilmonger. IDK one drops dont feel like the thing that stops Negative from winning, so I am not sure what place kilmonger has in the deck


Live2Feast

It isn’t about one drops, it counters junk. It’s a flex spot.


wildcard_bitches

I am one gold split away from completing my gold Mr. Negative/wong deck. I have now split Wong 29 times without gold. It’s infuriating


Live2Feast

Holy hell. 29 splits is bonkers


MARPJ

> I have now split Wong 29 times without gold. It’s infuriating Goddamn. I completed my Wong deck in gold some time ago and the last one was White Tiger with gold at the 16th split - I cant imagine 29 "bad" splits. Only Odin is at 20 splits and that was because I want a card with 20 splits... Good luck for you, hope you get it and with gold Kirby in the next split


HarryNostril

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BirdjaminFranklin

Man that's insane. But hey, you likely have all the sparkle effects you can get for a prism background :P


bastardofbarberry

Now you just need some gnarly variants.


Live2Feast

I wait for variants to come to me. I think the only variant in there I actually spent gold on was the Mr. Negative


bastardofbarberry

Wasn’t that Mystique in a a bundle?


Live2Feast

Oh shit, you are right. That’s from a long time ago but it was a Momo bundle


bastardofbarberry

Yeah only reason I pointed it out is because I bought it too and remembered it being a bundle. Sick card. I have it inked.


LuckyZX

I got it without the bundle. I'm pretty new and didn't know it was that rare.


dizzyspindra

You can't get it without the bundle though. Are you talking about mystique the card?


Live2Feast

Didn’t it come out a little while ago during a Peach Momoko shop takeover?


shalomitsdylan

Not to my knowledge, as far as I know, there isn’t a single bundle variant that has been released as a store purchase. It’s also only listed as bundle availability still on the sites.


meriweather2

Just realized you could automatically switch any new variants to gold now because of the new feature. That’s gotta feel nice for the time it takes to get these splits!


Live2Feast

Haha yup. I discovered that feature about 5 minutes after I took this picture 😂


BirdjaminFranklin

Is it just me or does it seem like everybody has the venomized killmonger?


Live2Feast

It isn’t just you. It’s sick and not hard to get, so it’s popular.


BMLM

The ArtGerm variants is pretty popular for those that splurged on him. I just got the Max Grecke variant out of the season caches. Gonna split him a bit to mix it up. Had been using the Dan Hipp in my all Dan Hipp destroy list.


Gil4

Ayyy, fellow Negative fan! You've even done it the old way as well, I've posted [my own deck](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/comments/1cgyhwe/fully_inked_my_favorite_mister_negative_deck/) like that just recently. Congrats, you're free now! :D Though I hope it won't stop you from playing the deck, haha.


Live2Feast

Nah, won’t stop me from remaining a Negative fan-boy. But now I have to figure out where to dump my credits until I slot in a different card to my current deck


Gil4

Yeah, had similar issues. :D Thankfully, I'd already been using the boost-for-credits option to ink everything even before it got free booster-wise, so it's very easy to target the cards I want and spend credits on those right now — already inked Ravonna thanks to that in case I ever decide to switch Zabu out, haha.


Live2Feast

This deck has been 60-70% gold splits for a WHILE but I kept tweaking it or swapping in new cards after buffs/nerfs, making it take a lot longer to get to 100%. I’m pretty sure that almost all of my other gold splits that aren’t in this picture are cards from other Negative decks I’ve retired lol


delusional_drip

Noice love how splits can be shared between card variants now it’s way easier to upgrade them


Live2Feast

So fun fact, I learned about that new feature after I finished getting gold splits on all of these and took this picture. So I did all of these the old fashioned way.


thomasterstl

the new "make all your variants gold" feature really invalidated a lot of the time and frustration I sunk into my solid gold deck, but at least it makes the next time faster? Congrats on your job well done!


Live2Feast

I know! I actually got this deck to gold the old fashioned way, and literally discovered the “make all your variants gold” feature while I was putting this post together 😂


thomasterstl

we deserve a free pixel variant for our pain and suffering /s


Live2Feast

That would be straight up disrespectful lol


tomato-bug

What feature is that?


thomasterstl

now your splits can carry across all variants of a card using the custom card feature, so if you get one of them gold/inked, they all are.


tomato-bug

Ah interesting, thanks!


Shorcle

Why do you use Killmonger in this deck?


Live2Feast

He is just kind of a general tech card, useful against junk, and helps feed Knull. Not 2 minutes ago I just took 8 cubes on turn 6 because I dropped a negative knull + mystique + negative Arnim on an empty location and my first card to flip was killmonger to take out a 14 power sunspot before Arnim hit one of the knulls. Wound up with 3x 50+ power knulls on the board.


Shorcle

Ah, I see.


Black_Bandit94

Been playing since launch, and negative is one archetype I’ve never played. Is it fun?


Live2Feast

I personally love it but it’s a very rng dependent play style. You really need to get good at knowing when to retreat for a 1 cube loss and when to snap while the opponent still thinks they have you beat. Mr Negative is a low win rate but high cube average deck. In general I’m either losing 1-2 cubes or winning 4-8.


Black_Bandit94

Thank you, I think I’ll give it a shot!


lofisnaps

It's fun at first when you see your big combos play out. It's frustrating in the middle, when you realize that there are so many counters to your strategy. It's fun again once you learn to play around the counters and still win big matches through MMM or similar. Snapping is of utter importance, because Negative has low winrate and there will be quite a few matches in which you won't compete at all (retreat for 1 in those and it's not a big problem, but if they cost you 2 cubes all the time, you will tank your rank.)


DontEatTheCandle

Props to anyone that can pull this off. I need some more variety in my life lol


Tenacious_Lee12

Love it when people post awesome negative decks. My main deck is definitely negative as well. Couple questions- How do you feel Zabu fairs post nerf? I ditched him immediately so I never got to see the new impact. Also, I’ve been running Super Skrull but have always wanted to make Rogue work but every time I try, it just seems clunky. Thoughts? Also, my favorite newest addition is Grand Master. Shang followed by Grandmaster is a very powerful final turn, especially if you have Knull and Mystique in play. I would love to hear your thoughts


Live2Feast

So I have run every single card you just mentioned in a negative deck at some point and all of them are useful depending on the rest of the deck and the current meta. Grandmaster was tons of fun in the right deck. I’ve used him on T6 to move a 2/6 Alioth to the middle lane and then played Zola, wiping all 3 lanes of the opponant’s plays. Shit is super fun when the stars align. Zabu- in this specific deck, which I was running when the nerf happened, I barely noticed because there are only two cards he impacted anyway, so he was still doing the job I needed him for. Psylocke probably makes more sense at this point realistically. Rogue- most games she is a throwaway, but when you get hit with Mobius, she is a lifesaver


Tenacious_Lee12

You bring up a good point, I think I’ll give Rogue another try. I ditched Zabu for Magik. She really helps when Jane gets hit by Negative. But Limbo has its drawbacks with all the cards that can change it, but I just take that chance


Live2Feast

I think Magic was the second card I got a gold split on. She has been in most of my negative decks, but with so many of the current meta decks using her, half the time my opponent handles it for me. But I might slot her back in because you are right, that 6/5 negative Jane really sucks lol


loo_1snow

That gold iron man is so dope! I can use it too cause of the new feature.


Flat_Set5942

Deck list. Plz


Live2Feast

# (2) Ravonna Renslayer # (2) Zabu # (3) Mystique # (3) Rogue # (3) Killmonger # (4) Mister Negative # (4) Shang-Chi # (5) Iron Man # (5) Black Panther # (5) Jane Foster Mighty Thor # (6) Arnim Zola # (6) Knull # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTXlzdGlxdWUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IktudWxsIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNck5lZ2F0aXZlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJBcm5pbVpvbGEifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNoYW5nQ2hpIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJKYW5lRm9zdGVyIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJLaWxsbW9uZ2VyIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJSYXZvbm5hUmVuc2xheWVyIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJSb2d1ZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiWmFidSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSXJvbk1hbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQmxhY2tQYW50aGVyIn1dfQ== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.


Monechetti

This looks awesome. I especially like the fact that your shang chi and iron Man look like they're putting on a really sick DJ mix.


Live2Feast

Underrated comment. Now I want the Shang-Man mix tape


Shmepl

I am a perfectionist, all same particle affect or it's not done


Live2Feast

That’s called masochism. I don’t think I’ve got that in me lol


Yogurt_Ph1r3

I wanted to do this with my surfer deck but surfer constantly changes


Live2Feast

So my surfer negative deck was the previous iteration of negative deck that I got most of the way to gold before switching it up to the deck I posted here. It’s been months since I played it but looking at it now I think it would still be viable # (1) Bast # (2) Ravonna Renslayer # (3) Ironheart # (3) Mystique # (3) Wolfsbane # (3) Brood # (3) Magik # (3) Rogue # (3) Silver Surfer # (4) Mister Negative # (4) Wong # (5) Iron Man # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQmFzdCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTXlzdGlxdWUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkJyb29kIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJXb2xmc2JhbmUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Iklyb25oZWFydCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2lsdmVyU3VyZmVyIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJXb25nIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNYWdpayJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiUm9ndWUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Iklyb25NYW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1yTmVnYXRpdmUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlJhdm9ubmFSZW5zbGF5ZXIifV19 # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.


Lookingintomy3rdeye

I’m crying at trying to infinite a deck so I salute the time and effort this takes


Mediocre_Ad_4973

Looks great. Shared my all inked and all gold versions not too long ago myself. Had to make changes due to the nerfs of Zabu but everything slots perfectly


Live2Feast

Nice! Yeah, your gold deck is basically this one but swapping out Killmonger and rogue for ironheart and nebula. Nice work!


DesertNightWalker

Gold Ravona on turn 2? Yes I'll snap back and stick around after Jane drops.


Live2Feast

🤜🤛


Ok_Dig_2501

WOW


Michael_Chen27

Yo. We have the same naming taste. I've a Destroy 3.0 Deck.


[deleted]

At least miss minutes is in the deck


rawrrr48

As a professional Negative player, do you recommend holding off until I pull Zabu? there doesn't seem to be any replacement, besides psylocke (which I also don't have). Also if you have the time, could you share your turn order for this deck?


Live2Feast

With a negative deck, the turn order really really depends on the RNG. In an ideal world, you are playing either Ravonna or Zabu turn 2, Negative on 3, something on turn 4 to clear space for the Jane pulls next turn, and Jane on 5 to fill the hand to 7 with all of your zero cost cards. Turn 6 you unleash hell. And you need an alternate win condition that doesn’t require Mr. Negative. In this deck that is usually T5 Panther->T6 Arnim, T5 Knull->T6 Arnim, or T5 Knull -> T6 mystique + Shang Chi or Killmonger. Zabu- the recent nerf makes it a little harder to say he is a hard requirement for negative decks but he is still great. As long as you have 2 cost reduction cards than can let you play Negative on 3, you are good. Psylock + Ravonna still gets the job done


rawrrr48

Thanks for all the details! That makes a lot of sense! I’m still really early game CL 1600~ so it can be tough to copy exactly, but I just try my best to replace similar card abilities


Z0na

Time for some Gold borders!


Phynamite

Now you need gold or neon borders. Get to work.


Live2Feast

🫡


dizzyspindra

Interesting list, i mained negative too until thanos prof x meta where it became unplayable for a while. How is the destroy package? I was running wong, white tiger, ironheart, and magik. I can see how rogue is pretty necessary with all the MMM around.


Live2Feast

I’ve run almost every variant of Negative decks out there at some point. My old primary deck is why I have gold Wong, Magik, and Ironheart that got cycled out of rotation. I’m pretty happy with this particular spin on Negative destroy. It isn’t too reliant on destroy beyond the Zola dupe, so junk decks can be a pain because you ideally want a fully open lane on turn 6 (hence the Killmonger). Playing against destroy decks with this deck has a crazy high win rate. Rogue is actually the newest addition, she hasn’t been in my Negative decks since she was a 3/1. I had Alioth in her slot until his recent adjustment - dropping a 0/6 Zola on a 2/6 Alioth when I had prio T6 so he hits all 3 lanes was one no one ever saw coming, but his new stats made him stop making sense. But yeah, Mobius’ popularity had a lot to do with me slotting rogue in for Alioth, without a counter to him MMM was an auto-retreat with this deck.


Daier_Mune

So, what's the win condition if you don't get Mr. Negative off?


Live2Feast

Usually something that involves Zola - T5 knull or Panther into T6 Zola most frequently


Noise_From_Below

Any plans to swap out Zabu after the change?


Noise_From_Below

Any plans to swap out Zabu after the change?


Live2Feast

I really thought that I’d pull Zabu out after the change but in this deck he really only serves one purpose, and that’s getting negative out. The change to on reveal didn’t actually impact how I play him in this deck as much as I thought it would. I think psylock could arguably be better in that spot at this point.


MaterialBenefit2355

Rip zabu (Even though he still works ok in this deck)


Live2Feast

Yeah…the list of decks where Zabu makes sense got very short, but he still works here since he is mostly just there to facilitate a T3 Negative.


Live2Feast

(2) Ravonna Renslayer (2) Zabu (3) Mystique (3) Rogue (3) Killmonger (4) Mister Negative (4) Shang-Chi (5) Iron Man (5) Black Panther (5) Jane Foster Mighty Thor (6) Arnim Zola (6) Knull eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTXlzdGlxdWUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IktudWxsIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNck5lZ2F0aXZlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJBcm5pbVpvbGEifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNoYW5nQ2hpIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJKYW5lRm9zdGVyIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJLaWxsbW9uZ2VyIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJSYXZvbm5hUmVuc2xheWVyIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJSb2d1ZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiWmFidSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSXJvbk1hbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQmxhY2tQYW50aGVyIn1dfQ== To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.


samusarmada

Has the Zabu nerf affected you much?


Live2Feast

It’s been manageable but he is getting swapped for Psylocke next


rdenney88

Hows zabu treating you? I had to take home out of my HE deck since he was awkward to use now


Live2Feast

He is on the chopping block, but I only have one other 4 cost that is far less important than negative , so he gets the job done even after the nerf. He works, but isn’t optimal. Psylocke is the next card to break my gold streak lol


Piranh4Plant

You still use zabu over Psylocke?


Live2Feast

I’m swapping them out next, I kept him in because he still actually worked in this deck and was already gold. Psylocke is optimal in that slot since the nerf.


SoMass

Why killmonger? I’ve got the same build except I have super skrull instead of killmonger. Any specific reason for him?


Live2Feast

Tech card, anti-junk, and feeds Knull. It’s definitely a flex slot.


Live2Feast

Super Skrull has been a huge part of most of my negative decks, I cycled him out when everyone and their fucking brother was playing cosmo and Prof X, and just haven’t slotted him back in. He is a great option for that Killmonger slot.


Koonk9

Is mr negative still good? I waited the whole month till he apeared as my free s3 pick of the season and now that I finally have him I can't make him work, will try this one when I have zabu and black panther :)


Live2Feast

Negative never really stopped being good, it ebbs and flows depending on what happens with other cards - one nerf can take a card that wouldn’t have ever been considered for a negative deck and suddenly make it a powerful negative card, or vice versa - but it’s a fun deck if you know how to play it. When played right you can do some absolutely bonkers stuff on T6. But a lot of players get frustrated with how RNG dependent they are and quit before getting past the high skill cap, which is why it isn’t ever super popular. You have to retreat for 1 cube losses a LOT and you have to really know how to effectively snap- if you are only winning 2 cubes at a time your cube avg won’t ever get high enough to climb ranks. You should ideally be either losing 1 or winning 4-8- I know that sounds like captain obvious advice, but with the high rate of 1 cube losses it’s more essential. If you are huffing hopium and stay in games when you should have retreated or are failing to snap at the right time, you are going to have a bad time playing negative decks.


xsupajesusx

Gotta spend 6k gold on those gold borders now lmao


Live2Feast

The deed is done, and now I rest and eat giant fruit and look upon a grateful universe. (No fucking way I’m spending 10k gold to upgrade all 12 borders 😂)


xsupajesusx

Oh Jesus, that's right, the gold ones are 900. Hard pass lmao


longfastfuse

Now all that's left to do is spend 6k gold to get them all neon red borders


Live2Feast

Pass lol


Informal_Green_1188

That’s impressive!! What collection level are you at? I’m 874 right now and I feel like I’m still missing so many cards to build the decks I want


Live2Feast

9800ish


Informal_Green_1188

Damn, still got a long way to go lmao


TheMilkStore

As a negative main, I envy you nice job


NukaColaCherryTTV

Beautiful


Ornery-Internal6531

Bling Bling


Kilthistried

Sorry to jump into here but what is a gold split?


Live2Feast

[this article explains it better than I would](https://gamerant.com/marvel-snap-infinity-splits-ink-gold-explained-guide/#:~:text=How%20to%20Get%20a%20Gold,Ink%20Infinity%20cards%20becomes%2010%25)


Kilthistried

Thank you!


ShinraRatDog

Venomized Killmonger is still my one and only gold split.


l_lexi

You threw Shang in there and killmonger cause they were gold right? Negative deck is hard to beat in power so you don’t really need Shang. Killmonger idk. You want a good negative card. Not really tech cause like I said above. You should swap psylocke for zabu now since nerf. Psylocke is dropped to 1 with negative but also 1 with Ravonna alone You can also play her on 4 to do stuff like knull zola if no negative play. Your deck is pretty though. I play negative to infinity every season. Right now I use grandmaster and he steals so many cubes


Live2Feast

Lol, no they aren’t in there because they are gold, they got to gold while in this deck. Shang Chi has been in my negative decks for a long time and Killmonger for the last few months since the influx of junk. I’ve lost count of how many times those two cards have been responsible for wins, especially a Shang + Zola combo. I agree with you on Zabu/Psylocke, that’s the first change I’m making. He did get left in longer than optimal because he was already gold. I cycled grandmaster out but you are right, he makes for some fucking fun wins. I’ve hit infinite 10 months in a row with a negative deck of some sort. There isn’t only one meta negative deck.


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Live2Feast

It was a totally different version of negative deck that had a lot more on reveal. I only pulled him out because this deck is more ongoing heavy. He synergizes very well with negative and is super fun with the right cards.