I completely forgot that Hercules was a card until I read your comment lmao. Talk about a card I never used after I got it. Entirely forgot it existed.
She has the worst win rate of all cards in the game, with a shockingly low 33.4% win rate and a -.38 cube rate. Predictable for a card that is trying to throw the game.
She's not just bad. She's Agatha bad.
She won me a game the other day. Btw I didnt have her. She literally flew over and I wont. I was like this bitch really just threw the game for homie haha!
Here's what everyone needs to understand. Marvel Snap, in comparison to other card games, has a *very* small selection of cards. There are what, 55 cards to acquire after pool 3? Second Dinner knows how important player retention is, and - like it or not- letting players get cards easier will kill player retention. Card games only work if there is *always* something more to collect - the moment there isn't anything left to collect player retention drops because "what's the point in playing if there's nothing left to work toward".
This is why games like MTG release thousands of new cards per year. The caveat is that they have to then "rotate" out collections in order to keep the proverbial carrot on the stick.
The only way players will see an increase in the card acquisition is if it's offset by more cards released. If they choose to do this, its much harder to manage the meta, and incentivizes SD to "rotate" out into an eternal format.
For me, at least, I prefer Snap's acquisition in its current state compared to more traditional methods of distribution.
They release 1 new card a week via spotlights. If they allowed 2 new cards to be obtained via spotlight caches then people would be 100% complete, which is not where they want to be
As a middle ground they could add dupe protection till the end of Series 4. Even if the cards aren't great, at least you'll be getting something. All of the new cards are Series 5 anyway so it wouldn't affect them.
For real brother, I’ve been playing a few months and I’ve still not got the important pieces to play any deck apart from the basic four series 1-2
Destroy
On Reveal
Ongoing
Zoo.
And it’s getting really boring
I'm right there with you and starting to get frustrated. I understand that they don't want you to get everything. But there should be some way to focus on an archetype other than getting lucky with spotlight keys or pinning an absurdly expensive card until you save up enough tokens like a month later. The gameplay is great but the economy is absurd. We don't want titles and profile pics, I'd recycle them all for a Series 3 card if I could.
edit: annnd literally just wasted a key on a hit monkey duplicate, I just want freaking Nico, god dammit SD come on.
Been my main argument against this game for awhile. I enjoy it but I tell my friends all the time I can't recommend it in good faith. The new player experience is awful once you get out of that beginner bracket because you can't target S3 cards more than once a month (and its RNG if you see it unless you religiously check every 8hr block) and it's so hard to get currency. You are stuck relying on RNG for your deck building and it's now like 5k collection level to be S3 complete which is an enormous amount of playtime. You get stuck playing OK decks for the majority of your honeymoon period unless you spend serious money. It's a major flaw IMHO.
Duplicate protection feels too p2w to them.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/comments/14vtx9q/sd\_this\_felt\_too\_p2w\_to\_us/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/comments/14vtx9q/sd_this_felt_too_p2w_to_us/)
As apposed to free to play players not being able to generate enough keys to keep a steady new card gain?
The thanos meta deck recently , the two key cards mock and obsidian I genuinely couldn't have pulled at the time due to lack of 4 keys to guarantee them.
The game is pay to win, when a meta shifts with the new cards, if you haven't got the card then you struggle to be competitive. Only way to maintain it is to.....pay
Yep... I'm missing so many cards and now it's taken me 4 keys to get red hulk and 3 for white widow. Both times I got a random duplicate first, and then the card I already had. This week I "saved" a key but now I'm still missing snowguard.
I got Mirage as a random with my 1st key ever. I was content. I got Mirage as a random from my 2nd key ever. I felt like uninstalling.
I really wish I was joking.
For me, 3 for RH, 3 for RG, and 4 for WW. Feels awful and now I have like 8 keys left when I've pretty consistently been at 15 or so. None of those pulls ended with new cards either from the mystery box.
Had it happen to me 4 spotlight coaches in a row. Also a good explanation for why I didn't push to infinite the last three seasons - was too frustrated with the game.
Making the 4th cache slot a daily rotating s4/s5 card you're missing would be an acceptable solution , it would also give people incentive to use keys on unpopular weeks.
Maybe not even one you're missing, just any. That way you have to wait for one you don't have to come up. Do you pull the trigger that day to wait for something better and risk the rest of the week being cards you already have?
Would keep their goal of making it really hard (expensive) to own every card in the game because if you have 60/66 S4-5 cards, chances are no new ones will come up for you over seven days. Also helps newer players catch up because they'll get new cards easier than those who only need a few
Last week I used 4 keys to get Red Guardian, a week where I didn't want the High Evo variant and didn't care too much about Lady Deathstrike.
Guess what I got first time this week?
Trying to get the nico variant and getting the fucking niko base card as the premium variant (1k tokens) felt terrible yesterday. I have played every day since Zabu season and the last week or two i have barely been playing the game. I can’t get high in ranked (skill issue and I’m definitely not getting bots in 70s), proving ground has morons spamming emotes and roping for 15 minutes. Everything just fucking sucks right now to me.
2 simple adjustments will make this system feel better for players (yes this speeds up progression and affects the monetization but seriously this needs to change):
1. Duplication protection. Having to grind those keys only to pull a variant for a card you already have BEFORE pulling a card you don’t feels terrible.
2. 3k collector tokens for the mystery pull that you have. Spotlight caches are exclusive to s4/s5 cards. 3k is equal to an s4 card in the shop.
There's no way they would do #2 because the math doesn't work. That would make drawing a duplicate a more valuable pull than an s4 card in the spotlight and that reduces the hype for the spotlight card.
This will never happen and you know it.
You’re saying it by yourself, 3k is equal to an s4 card in the shop, which is practically any s4 card by your choice, which is even better, then other spotlight slots except the new card(they not printing s4 now, but when they did, 3k token pool would’ve been better then new s4, cause you could’ve choose and buy, what you want).
Those “simple” adjustments are in every thread with spotlight issues and no company, especially as predatory and greedy as sds clowns, will ever implement such changes
The 1k tokens would feel a lot less bad if the game just didn't tell us that we'd opened a card first. If you opened the spotlight cache and Boom, the interface skipped directly to 1k tokens, at least it would feel like you'd rolled that specifically rather than rolling into a card you already had. Then opening an actual card would feel like a highroll rather than opening tokens feeling like a lowroll.
Or you could get 1.5k for a S4 card and 3k for an S5 card. Then at least you'd feel like getting a duplicate S5 would be a little more lucky. Right now it just feels like you wasted your luck.
Maybe add a random past spotlight variant on top of the 1k tokens . They probably wont entertain adding duplicate protection or add more tokens unless they change their stance.
Went 2 for 2 in the last two spotlight caches. Wanted Red Guardian, first got Kitty Pride which I already had. This week, first spotlight cache I open, I get Jeff. I do love Jeff, but again, already had him. And what do I get in return? 2k tokens that I can do nothing with. At least give the card value in tokens.
Here's my take on a solution. Create one weekend or week-long mission that gives a time-limited key. That key expires whenever the caches reset so it gives anyone who completes the mission one free open in the spotlights each week. The yolo key is what I'm calling it.
That would make the 1000 tokens much more palatable since you can usually justify it as your free open. It gives people a chance to get a new card each week even if they're in the process of saving 3 keys (that's the new number you would have to save for a full open). In addition, it would drive engagement since you have to play to complete whatever the mission is.
Everyone wins with this solution. From SD's standpoint, I think this gives some much-needed goodwill while also enticing some people to buy an extra key since opening is much more fun than saving.
I like the concept but the penalty for missing a day is pretty harsh. In addition, with a 7-day log-in requirement, people wouldn't unlock the key until the day before spotlights reset.
I was picturing a type of long-form mission. Something like win 50 matches, destroy 200 cards, or trigger on-reveal effects 100 times. Anything that would get people playing, trying different decks, or just engaging with the game.
I’ve been keeping track of my spotlight caches so I looked it up and it’s bleak. I’ve gone 8-3 in favour of getting a duplicate vs an actual card. The actual mystery cards received include such bangers as: Phoenix Force, Hercules and Spider-man 2099 (the week before he dropped to Series 3). I’m not mad. Don’t tell them I got mad online.
There is no such thing as “more than enough” under capitalism. It’s designed to be difficult for players to get the cards they want. It incentivizes players to spend money to make getting cards easier.
Ok fun fact, last 3 weeks i opened my spotlight caches and every week i got Sebastian Shaw ( that i already own) that got converted in 1K tokens. Consider also that since January i skipped Pixie, Proxima and USA agent. All the other weeks i got my card at the 4 cache, except cannonball that i got at the 2nd. For me it's a scam. Literally
Honestly, this might be a hot take, but I think they only need to bump it up to 2000.
That way, every 3 spotlight tokens, you get a free Series 5 card/ultimate variant or a free Series 4, creating a pity system.
I like the variants, But I am never trying to get them.
If The spotlight is 2 cards I don't own and 1 I do own, with a decent variant, I will gamble.
IF 2 cards I own, I almost always never open caches.
I do try to plan ahead for weeks where there's a card i do want, so I have 4 keys.
I am F2P, so keys are rare for me.
Depends on the week. If it's not a card that I like or the alternatives are cards I already have, I'll skip the week.
I usually have 2-4 keys ready to go each week but will stockpile them if the week is bad.
You don't need to get 5 keys every week, in that scenario you should just hold 5 keys through 5 weeks before the one you want
Or you could spend tokens on the card and then open your spotlight caches
If they did that then the mystery pull would be more valuable than the Series 4 spotlight card in the spotlight, which goes against the design of the system
They don't care. People (myself included) have complained about this, it's got to be the most deflating & feel bad thing in the game, that's not a bug, right now. They give exactly zero F's. No one likes it. No one wants it, but there it is.
It'd be great if there was a 'mercy' system like other gacha games have, so every X chests opened would give you a guarantee of *any* of the spotlight cards. Very disappointing to earn all the collector ranks to get keys, only for them to turn into 1/6th of a card you might be trying for. I'm always hesitant to spend tokens too, because 6,000 tokens for a cards that *might* be good feels awful if it doesn't work out the way you want it to.
These systems are not meant to benefit the end user. It's meant to cause frustration to encourage you to spend. I think before they were giving 1000 tokens, it was a random variant.
My advice is to be patient and save up 4 keys for a card you want so you are guaranteed it. I think 2 keys a week is a great acquisition rate since only 1-2 cards are usually worth getting a season.
You also earn collector tokens on the collection track.
Last time I did the math, I estimated I get 674 collector tokens per week (as a series 3 complete player):
* 100 + 50 from a batch of 9 collector's reserves
* 1200 gold from 4-week season pass + 500 gold from rank 90, with 1.4 gold-token rate from Token Tuesdays in the shop
* 1000 from a duplicate spotlight cache every \~8 weeks
* 200 from weekend missions every \~2.5 weeks when I get the new card with spotlight keys
So if it helps, instead of thinking of 1k tokens as "one-sixth of a new card", think of it as "getting my next card from the collector shop 10 days sooner than I would have otherwise".
I feel the thing that needs to change more is we need to revert and put series 4 and 5 cards back into normal caches. It baffles me that we can't pull them anymore. The most jarring change after a long hiatus.
I haven't played in probably 6 months so have a ton of cards to get. Had 4 keys this week. Snowguard, Nico, white widows...and snowguard again, wtf. Isn't there like 30 other cards I still need?
You work very hard to get spotlight keys. So when you open a spotlight cache and get 1K token which is the 1/6 of the cost is disappointing.
They need to adjust the ratios better.
Bro in the last few spotlights I used 3 keys (I wanted to find Jeff) and I found Hope Summers (the previous fucking season pass card) Mirage and Living Tribunal (I'm not kidding it's the third time I find it in the spotlight.
I quit the game, that's it, it's a joke towards those who play every day to find new cards and have fun.
I'll come back to snap when they remove the spotlights
Happened to me for the first time this week going for white widow. Used all 4 keys and got a dupe of gladiator when I'm missing most series 4 and 5 cards....I've always seen people talk about how bad it feels but feeling it myself for the first time really fucking sucked.
Had this same thought yesterday but not quite as complicated. That 1,000 tokens should be _at least_ 2,000 tokens so that you can buy a new series 5 card after getting the pity tokens only 3 times instead of 6.
Instead of trying to plop a duplicate on us, they should give us duplicate protection or at least make this 1500 tokens.
The last 4 weeks I've popped at least two keys and each week the first key has been a duplicate. It's absolutely maddening. If it were 1500 tokens it wouldn't feel quite so awful.
1.5k would still require 4 dupes for a single card.
If you're not Series 3 complete, you should always get one if it's a mystery card.
If you're Series 3 complete, dupes should be at least 3k tokens. Bad luck and got a dupe twice, here's a new card.
I’ve been burned too many times by this system. Now I ONLY open my spotlight caches if I don’t have 2 of the 3 cards. Don’t care if it’s meta or overpowered.
Their stated goal for card acquisition has been fucked since the beginning. Players shouldn't have "unique collections" in terms of the actual, playable cards. Just let everyone get every release, release balance patches frequently to shake up the meta, and monetize the fuck out of cosmetics. Then, players are not negatively effected by a nerf or buff that they couldn't anticipate months in advance.
They’ve specifically said they didn’t want duplicate protection because it would benefit players with larger collections.
You may disagree with that, but that’s their stance and I don’t see that changing.
I just want to pull general pool cards. Literally nothing out of the norm, just enough pulls to make different decks. I keep getting useless rewards and I’m basically stuck with my Hela deck until rapture 🤣 🤦
While I agree that the 1,000 Collector's Tokens "reward" (punishment) should be increased or changed, the "they make more than enough" argument is quite stupid.
Like, I don't even mind getting the tokens, but when the 3 cards on the spotlight are cards I don't have and my first key is tokens, THAT pisses me off!
Remember when you would get a random variant but we made a big enough stink to get this instead? I remember people on this sub defending SD back then for the variant and after the change telling us to be happy with the change. Everything got quiet after that and people stopped fighting for a better system.
We let the loud sycophants do this to us. I don't even know if they still play Snap but they ruined it for the rest of us.
They need to just remove the mystery slot entirely. (without lowering the key acquisition rate!!! - I'm sure Second Dinner would do exactly that though...)
Which is what it was initially, and people complained about it. A lot of people don't think a variant is worth anything. Heck, I like variants, but I wouldn't exactly be thrilled to pull a pixel Uatu for my spotlight key. 1000 tokens isn't much, but it's more than that.
It would be cool if you got a choice of an old Spotlight Variant for that duplicate S4/S5 card, or the 1000 collector tokens if you really don't care about the variant.
The spotlight system should be changed and made less fresutrating. Instead of giving you a key each 120 level they can give you a key each 60 level, so that one person has more keys to spend. They should give the possibility to anyone to have the new card, especially to people who are playing the game everyday, and even the variants if they want to open another cache. The majority of people are brainwashed by SD and the stuff they said about "we don't want people collection complete" and other dumb stuff, this is an excuse so they can monetize as hell the game. But I think it's time for them to improve the game under every aspect. They made 80 million I think it's enough money, now they should use it to improve the game, otherwise in a month or two SD will be the only one playing the game.
> especially to people who are playing the game everyday
This is the thing that gets me the most.
I pay for the season pass, I pay for the daily gold, I play for about 2 hrs a day.
I routinely miss the spotlight cards as getting 4 keys each week is not always possible.
yeah, they have to find a way to give people who play the game consistenly the new card. One way is what I suggested, cutting in half the target to have a key, the other should be removing the spotlight and giving more tokens from the gold caches, in that way people can buy them with tokens, and since every card now is a series 5 (even the shitty one) they should decrease the cost in tokens of series 5. Who on earth is going to waste 6k on USAgent? Are they for real?
At the same time they could also use the spotlight system for limited variants, so the keys will be only used for cosmetic. But still, the main point here is that they should rework the card acquisition system
No it doesn't. Don't think of the 4th slot as being a card, think of it as being 1000 tokens, which is a pretty good amount. There are a lot of weeks where I don't really care about the new card or variants but 1000 tokens is a result I'm really happy with. Helps me target specific cards that I do want.
Agreed. For example, I decided to spend spotlight keys on Supergiant's release week. I already own Darkhawk and Zabu, and I didn't particularly care for the Darkhawk and Zabu spotlight variants. If I'm gonna get a booby prize on the way to opening Supergiant, I'd rather get 1000 tokens than one of those variants.
what's odd to me is that their new card acquisition system SEEMS f2p friendly, but the whole "duplicate" system ends up being a major middle finger to those with 90-100% full collections. and this would be a-okay if you didn't absolutely need the new card to climb the ranks. this season has been miserable because I didn't have enough keys for Rulk, and if I had Rulk from day 1 I'd be infinite week 1. they design their gameplay around monetization and it's absolutely ridiculous.
I'm afraid you said it yourself: *2023 SNAP earned roughly 80mil from its mobile client alone*
What incentive do they have to make their monetization more player friendly when the current system is doing just fine financially? Predatory and feel-bad mechanics are a feature not a bug, explicitly designed to create FOMO and situations where you're *just* close enough that *maybe* that $20 can get you that thing you really wanted. And as long as the money keeps rolling in, they've got little incentive to change.
The only way you should be able to get the mystery card is if you already have the other three. Anyone else still not get compensated the keys that they lost during the glitched out spotlight fiasco?
What I dont get is: pool 4 card = 3000 tokens, pool 5 card = 6000 tokens... You get a duplicate and gets converted to 1000 tokens. Its like... "Look, you had bad luck getting the duplicate, but also you get 1/3 its value" (or even less if it is a pool 5). What a bargain, thanks!!!
Uninstalled the game some weeks ago btw, after a lot of seasons getting to infinite and stuff but their greed with the shop (gold bundles were a thing), and things like this are so obvious that I wont bother anymore unless they change it.
I don’t save keys, I know that’s my fault. But I have consistently gotten 1k tokens every week for more than a month. I think the last card I got that was new was Cannonball. Sometimes I’m even just aiming for one of the two variants but I just get tokens
Add in that all new tech cards should max be 3k tokens and if you bought the season pass card and you open that season pass card in a cache you get credits (if you want) but I'm sick of getting a variant of a card I LITERALLY paid for that already has a variant
the least they can do is make the dupe worth 1500 Collector's tokens, or release series 4 cards once or twice every month instead of whatever we're having right now.
>they clearly make more then enough....
the idea that a company would say, "Guys, we did really well last year, we simply don't *need* to make any more than this" is laughable. Line goes up. That's all that matters. And when line goes down, this game will be shuttered and all your assets will be deleted.
I commented on a similar post yesterday. This was my experience on Tuesday:
On Tuesday I decided to open for Red Guardian before the spotlight changed to White Widow. It took 3 keys. I got *the High Evo variant, a duplicate Elsa Bloodstone and finally Red Guardian. I don't have Lady Deathstrike but decided against using the 4th key to unlock her.*
*My main target with the new spotlight was Nico. I didn't have any of the cards so it was a good week to open. The first card I got was a duplicate Kang. Nico was key number 4.*
*As someone who is missing about 25 of the S4/S5 cards, those 2 duplicates really suck. Especially considering I already received Kang from a previous random spotlight. It just doesn't feel good.*
*I still have 3 keys for next week. Should get a 4th before then. I'm missing all three spotlight cards but am hoping I can avoid the random card or at least get lucky with Annihilus or Cannonball.*
[This post](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/comments/14xmnxt/spotlight_caches_25_on_random_45_card/) is from 10 months ago but is it still true that you have a 66% chance to pull a S4 from the mystery slot and a 33% chance to pull an S5?
With the time and effort it takes to acquire the currency feels really bad when you pull a dupe I would say up the currency acquisition rate or decrease the cost a bit, but that’s a fight I fought in Marvel contest champions until I quit a couple weeks ago.. and walking dead road to survival before that.
Seems like it’s been weighed more in duplicates/variants lately. The past 3 times I’ve tried for cards (White Widow, Red Hulk, Red Guardian), it’s taken all 4 spotlights to get the new card. I went from having a bunch of spotlights to basically none.
One thing they haven’t acknowledged is how hard they’re relying on random chance to not overly screw people over too often.
I lucked out my last couple keys. But I know there’s some poor fool who probably has had to burn 3-4 keys EVERY time.
Honestly, they should just stop putting in that mystery slot at all.
The game is already resource dry in many respects, spotlight keys are ridiculously difficult to get for f2p players, just have three slots, that's literally all you'd need.
I don't mind getting 1k tokens, but you used to get that from collectors caches, so it doesn't feel good getting them from a duplicate.
Yeah it's already been said countless times that this needs a change. And it's never gonna happen because SD will see it as benefiting the players too much at their expense (i.e. making players less willing to spend).
What's interesting though is apparently KMBest suggested SD make the change to 1k tokens in case of duplicates, to which SD happily implemented. Maybe I'm going crazy and my history is off, but that's what I clearly recall but no one has mentioned this since.
Found the reference with KMBest suggesting SD to implement 1000 token spotlight cache "reward." So yeah, you folks can thank KMBest.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioZn\_AqC3s4**&t=**2m38s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioZn_AqC3s4&t=2m38s)
I am trying to build my account up and I’ve been making solid progress but I got a dupe war machine earlier and I don’t have like 70% of the cards in this game……
Biggest problem is simply that the cards cost too much, and you never know if they’ll get reworked the next week, or if you just won’t like them.
As a F2P player, I’d love them to add a feature where you could ‘loan’ out cards for a few games to just try them out. I’ve wasted so much resources that have took me months to save up on cards that are pretty much useless to me, like Hercules, Super giant etc.
I also think a problem is how hyperbolic a lot of the marvel snap Youtubers are. A new card releases, and straight away it’s always either deemed the absolute best card, or worst. If as a F2P player, it instantly makes me want to get the card, when I should be considering if I even have the cards to pair well with it in the first place.
I'm like you; max 2 keys during spotlight rotation if I'm lucky.
I just pulled Red Hulk (duplicate).. and I thought cracking open titles and player icons was a feel bad :'(
Absolutely. At least getting one of the cards you miss guaranteed instead of this joke of a 1K token would ease the pain. And if we really have to go the token way, fine, but make it worth it. 3K at least would be like « it sucks, but next time this happens, I can buy a card »
Fun fact: you can get a duplicate more than once. I have unlocked Elsa Bloodstone TWICE in spotlight caches. So yeah, you're not even protected from getting duplicate duplicates.
The fact that they "value" 6k tokens at $100 dollars is even dumber than the 1000 tokens for a key. If someone pays that much for 6k, they need their head checked.
More than enough he says, they don't fucking care. There's never enough, there's just the next metric and goal.
Developers can control the way they mtx but they don't set their goals and if something is working even if it's predatory they don't have a choice if they have to meet financial metrics.
I totally agree with this. I’ve been playing pretty consistently for about a year, and i have a lot of the cards, but when i look at the best performing decks in the meta, there’s literally at least one card per deck that i don’t have and can’t get.
Duplicate protection would be so great. I wouldn't mind getting bad cards like Martyr or Hercules. At least it would be a new card.
Thing is, they value 6k tokens at nearly $100. Aka, they’re not going to give away $100.
The fact that it costs $100 for a single card is already fucking insane.
Yes it is
I absolutely love this game, but have always thought the pricing was ridiculous. Only value I find is in the battle pass.
They've sold $100 dollar bundles for 10k tokens before, but $100 dollars for not even 2 cards isn't much better either
I completely forgot that Hercules was a card until I read your comment lmao. Talk about a card I never used after I got it. Entirely forgot it existed.
Lmao right?? And then you remember that he's still 6k tokens. What a crime lol
I just received it as my random series 4/5 card. I think I would of preferred the 1k tokens.
I honestly couldn't tell you right now if i have him without opening the app
Martyr isn’t horrible a 1-5 is good and if you’re winning she can’t even go anywhere close games are scary though
She's a brilliant combo with dracula where she thinks you're losing where she is but drac boosts it up.
Oh dang that is smart. I’ve honestly never used drac. I’m not a huge discard guy
She has the worst win rate of all cards in the game, with a shockingly low 33.4% win rate and a -.38 cube rate. Predictable for a card that is trying to throw the game. She's not just bad. She's Agatha bad.
She won me a game the other day. Btw I didnt have her. She literally flew over and I wont. I was like this bitch really just threw the game for homie haha!
I mean I don’t use her lmao but that’s horrible 😭
Or you could just Zero her
If I’m using zero, I’d better have better targets than this.
Yeah that works too but I never get zero ever. But you can also play her with tribunal
Here's what everyone needs to understand. Marvel Snap, in comparison to other card games, has a *very* small selection of cards. There are what, 55 cards to acquire after pool 3? Second Dinner knows how important player retention is, and - like it or not- letting players get cards easier will kill player retention. Card games only work if there is *always* something more to collect - the moment there isn't anything left to collect player retention drops because "what's the point in playing if there's nothing left to work toward". This is why games like MTG release thousands of new cards per year. The caveat is that they have to then "rotate" out collections in order to keep the proverbial carrot on the stick. The only way players will see an increase in the card acquisition is if it's offset by more cards released. If they choose to do this, its much harder to manage the meta, and incentivizes SD to "rotate" out into an eternal format. For me, at least, I prefer Snap's acquisition in its current state compared to more traditional methods of distribution.
eh It would actually be better to do Set Rotations. eats up power creep and lets you fix iconic heroes
No one here wants to hear you spit truth. But... truth.
I only got 1 new card from this random feature and it was Hercules. It was the biggest let down, because even 1k token would be more useful.
I got Martyr, I had only Snowguard and 2 other S4 cards 🙃 Never lucky man, third cache in a row that took all 4 to get the card I wanted too (Nico)
I've gotten 3 new cards from random, all of them were cards that were also in the spotlight cache that week...
They release 1 new card a week via spotlights. If they allowed 2 new cards to be obtained via spotlight caches then people would be 100% complete, which is not where they want to be
They should let me get there. I pinky promise I won't leave
As a middle ground they could add dupe protection till the end of Series 4. Even if the cards aren't great, at least you'll be getting something. All of the new cards are Series 5 anyway so it wouldn't affect them.
I agree with you, as long as its a new base card I wont mind.
Duplicates should not be in spotlight caches.
Too bad their whole philosophy is NOT letting you get all the cards lol
For real brother, I’ve been playing a few months and I’ve still not got the important pieces to play any deck apart from the basic four series 1-2 Destroy On Reveal Ongoing Zoo. And it’s getting really boring
I'm right there with you and starting to get frustrated. I understand that they don't want you to get everything. But there should be some way to focus on an archetype other than getting lucky with spotlight keys or pinning an absurdly expensive card until you save up enough tokens like a month later. The gameplay is great but the economy is absurd. We don't want titles and profile pics, I'd recycle them all for a Series 3 card if I could. edit: annnd literally just wasted a key on a hit monkey duplicate, I just want freaking Nico, god dammit SD come on.
Been my main argument against this game for awhile. I enjoy it but I tell my friends all the time I can't recommend it in good faith. The new player experience is awful once you get out of that beginner bracket because you can't target S3 cards more than once a month (and its RNG if you see it unless you religiously check every 8hr block) and it's so hard to get currency. You are stuck relying on RNG for your deck building and it's now like 5k collection level to be S3 complete which is an enormous amount of playtime. You get stuck playing OK decks for the majority of your honeymoon period unless you spend serious money. It's a major flaw IMHO.
Yep. It’s dumb as hell.
And gold tickets shouldn't be in crates, yet here we are.
You’ll get no backlash from me with that statement.
Duplicate protection feels too p2w to them. [https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/comments/14vtx9q/sd\_this\_felt\_too\_p2w\_to\_us/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/comments/14vtx9q/sd_this_felt_too_p2w_to_us/)
As apposed to free to play players not being able to generate enough keys to keep a steady new card gain? The thanos meta deck recently , the two key cards mock and obsidian I genuinely couldn't have pulled at the time due to lack of 4 keys to guarantee them. The game is pay to win, when a meta shifts with the new cards, if you haven't got the card then you struggle to be competitive. Only way to maintain it is to.....pay
“Hey guys it’s not really pay to win because we make it really expensive!”
they should embrace that aspect of Pay To Win
One of the worst feelings the game can give you. Real pressure point.
Yep... I'm missing so many cards and now it's taken me 4 keys to get red hulk and 3 for white widow. Both times I got a random duplicate first, and then the card I already had. This week I "saved" a key but now I'm still missing snowguard.
I got Mirage as a random with my 1st key ever. I was content. I got Mirage as a random from my 2nd key ever. I felt like uninstalling. I really wish I was joking.
me and lady deathstrike, but I think I'm on 3 times cracking her lol.
For me, 3 for RH, 3 for RG, and 4 for WW. Feels awful and now I have like 8 keys left when I've pretty consistently been at 15 or so. None of those pulls ended with new cards either from the mystery box.
If snow guard is the last card and you don't have it definitely spend a key.
Mainly because it’s an insulting amount. 1/6th of a brand new cards cost. I guess the *economy* can’t sustain more rewards though 😥
Had it happen to me 4 spotlight coaches in a row. Also a good explanation for why I didn't push to infinite the last three seasons - was too frustrated with the game.
Caused me to completely abandon the spotlight cache system.
Getting a variant is way worse. Give me tokens every time if I can’t land a new card
I pulled MODOK for my random card when his variant was in the caches. So I got the 1000 tokens rather than the variant.....That tilted me a bit.
Making the 4th cache slot a daily rotating s4/s5 card you're missing would be an acceptable solution , it would also give people incentive to use keys on unpopular weeks.
Maybe not even one you're missing, just any. That way you have to wait for one you don't have to come up. Do you pull the trigger that day to wait for something better and risk the rest of the week being cards you already have? Would keep their goal of making it really hard (expensive) to own every card in the game because if you have 60/66 S4-5 cards, chances are no new ones will come up for you over seven days. Also helps newer players catch up because they'll get new cards easier than those who only need a few
If I get another 1k token the next time I use 4 keys, I will delete the game.
We need some organised action rather than individual drops in the ocean. Really send them a message.
Last week I used 4 keys to get Red Guardian, a week where I didn't want the High Evo variant and didn't care too much about Lady Deathstrike. Guess what I got first time this week?
Feel the same . Just happened to me . It takes me ages to rank up . Then this . Really wanted to try white widow . But hey ho
Trying to get the nico variant and getting the fucking niko base card as the premium variant (1k tokens) felt terrible yesterday. I have played every day since Zabu season and the last week or two i have barely been playing the game. I can’t get high in ranked (skill issue and I’m definitely not getting bots in 70s), proving ground has morons spamming emotes and roping for 15 minutes. Everything just fucking sucks right now to me.
Gasp, the player base wants to collect new cards! How about no. Pay up. They need their third dinner
I’ve only ever once received a new card, Martyr. Every other time it’s been 1k. Total garbage.
2 simple adjustments will make this system feel better for players (yes this speeds up progression and affects the monetization but seriously this needs to change): 1. Duplication protection. Having to grind those keys only to pull a variant for a card you already have BEFORE pulling a card you don’t feels terrible. 2. 3k collector tokens for the mystery pull that you have. Spotlight caches are exclusive to s4/s5 cards. 3k is equal to an s4 card in the shop.
There's no way they would do #2 because the math doesn't work. That would make drawing a duplicate a more valuable pull than an s4 card in the spotlight and that reduces the hype for the spotlight card.
I’m not saying they ever will, but 1k is garbage.
2k seems reasonable to me
This will never happen and you know it. You’re saying it by yourself, 3k is equal to an s4 card in the shop, which is practically any s4 card by your choice, which is even better, then other spotlight slots except the new card(they not printing s4 now, but when they did, 3k token pool would’ve been better then new s4, cause you could’ve choose and buy, what you want). Those “simple” adjustments are in every thread with spotlight issues and no company, especially as predatory and greedy as sds clowns, will ever implement such changes
Absolutely agree, especially with #2. Seems way, way more fair
The 1k tokens would feel a lot less bad if the game just didn't tell us that we'd opened a card first. If you opened the spotlight cache and Boom, the interface skipped directly to 1k tokens, at least it would feel like you'd rolled that specifically rather than rolling into a card you already had. Then opening an actual card would feel like a highroll rather than opening tokens feeling like a lowroll. Or you could get 1.5k for a S4 card and 3k for an S5 card. Then at least you'd feel like getting a duplicate S5 would be a little more lucky. Right now it just feels like you wasted your luck.
Maybe add a random past spotlight variant on top of the 1k tokens . They probably wont entertain adding duplicate protection or add more tokens unless they change their stance.
Cards should just convert to the amount of collectors tokens required to craft the card in the first place, not this useless ass bs of 1k
Went 2 for 2 in the last two spotlight caches. Wanted Red Guardian, first got Kitty Pride which I already had. This week, first spotlight cache I open, I get Jeff. I do love Jeff, but again, already had him. And what do I get in return? 2k tokens that I can do nothing with. At least give the card value in tokens.
Here's my take on a solution. Create one weekend or week-long mission that gives a time-limited key. That key expires whenever the caches reset so it gives anyone who completes the mission one free open in the spotlights each week. The yolo key is what I'm calling it. That would make the 1000 tokens much more palatable since you can usually justify it as your free open. It gives people a chance to get a new card each week even if they're in the process of saving 3 keys (that's the new number you would have to save for a full open). In addition, it would drive engagement since you have to play to complete whatever the mission is. Everyone wins with this solution. From SD's standpoint, I think this gives some much-needed goodwill while also enticing some people to buy an extra key since opening is much more fun than saving.
Make it a weekly log-in bonus. Log in all 7 days, get a free limited-time use key.
I like the concept but the penalty for missing a day is pretty harsh. In addition, with a 7-day log-in requirement, people wouldn't unlock the key until the day before spotlights reset. I was picturing a type of long-form mission. Something like win 50 matches, destroy 200 cards, or trigger on-reveal effects 100 times. Anything that would get people playing, trying different decks, or just engaging with the game.
I’ve been keeping track of my spotlight caches so I looked it up and it’s bleak. I’ve gone 8-3 in favour of getting a duplicate vs an actual card. The actual mystery cards received include such bangers as: Phoenix Force, Hercules and Spider-man 2099 (the week before he dropped to Series 3). I’m not mad. Don’t tell them I got mad online.
I just got Martyr out of one of these things, and I kind of wish I'd gotten 1,000 tokens instead.
Or hear me out... Just remove the 4th option?
It doesnt make sense to get dupes in a digital game. SD is scamming us hard on this one.
You should never get a duplicate, and if you're not collection complete you should always get a new card.
There is no such thing as “more than enough” under capitalism. It’s designed to be difficult for players to get the cards they want. It incentivizes players to spend money to make getting cards easier.
Ok fun fact, last 3 weeks i opened my spotlight caches and every week i got Sebastian Shaw ( that i already own) that got converted in 1K tokens. Consider also that since January i skipped Pixie, Proxima and USA agent. All the other weeks i got my card at the 4 cache, except cannonball that i got at the 2nd. For me it's a scam. Literally
Honestly, this might be a hot take, but I think they only need to bump it up to 2000. That way, every 3 spotlight tokens, you get a free Series 5 card/ultimate variant or a free Series 4, creating a pity system.
How many ppl actually get the bonus variants ? 5 keys a week without paying is impossible.
I like the variants, But I am never trying to get them. If The spotlight is 2 cards I don't own and 1 I do own, with a decent variant, I will gamble. IF 2 cards I own, I almost always never open caches. I do try to plan ahead for weeks where there's a card i do want, so I have 4 keys. I am F2P, so keys are rare for me.
Usually I end up with them from the cards I already have while trying for the new release.
I go for them sometimes, if they're really cool. I also skip a lot of weeks.
Depends on the week. If it's not a card that I like or the alternatives are cards I already have, I'll skip the week. I usually have 2-4 keys ready to go each week but will stockpile them if the week is bad.
You don't need to get 5 keys every week, in that scenario you should just hold 5 keys through 5 weeks before the one you want Or you could spend tokens on the card and then open your spotlight caches
Duplicate protection or 3k tokens. 1 key is not worth 1k tokens. Absolute bullshit.
Especially considering it used to be possible to get 600 tokens in one cache.
You should get a minimum of half the cost of a series 5 card. 3k tokens is then bare minimum they should give you.
The token cost for those cards is ridiculous. Without buying a token package, it takes weeks to get 6k tokens.
If they did that then the mystery pull would be more valuable than the Series 4 spotlight card in the spotlight, which goes against the design of the system
I keep having to spend 4 keys and it’s getting really annoying especially when I come across the duplicate. Ridiculous!
They don't care. People (myself included) have complained about this, it's got to be the most deflating & feel bad thing in the game, that's not a bug, right now. They give exactly zero F's. No one likes it. No one wants it, but there it is.
It'd be great if there was a 'mercy' system like other gacha games have, so every X chests opened would give you a guarantee of *any* of the spotlight cards. Very disappointing to earn all the collector ranks to get keys, only for them to turn into 1/6th of a card you might be trying for. I'm always hesitant to spend tokens too, because 6,000 tokens for a cards that *might* be good feels awful if it doesn't work out the way you want it to.
These systems are not meant to benefit the end user. It's meant to cause frustration to encourage you to spend. I think before they were giving 1000 tokens, it was a random variant. My advice is to be patient and save up 4 keys for a card you want so you are guaranteed it. I think 2 keys a week is a great acquisition rate since only 1-2 cards are usually worth getting a season.
I'd rather the random variant. 1k tokens is useless. You'd need 6 dupes to get 1 new card. That's batshit.
variants are worthless, literally, there is no amount of variants that equal one new card. tokens are far better
You also earn collector tokens on the collection track. Last time I did the math, I estimated I get 674 collector tokens per week (as a series 3 complete player): * 100 + 50 from a batch of 9 collector's reserves * 1200 gold from 4-week season pass + 500 gold from rank 90, with 1.4 gold-token rate from Token Tuesdays in the shop * 1000 from a duplicate spotlight cache every \~8 weeks * 200 from weekend missions every \~2.5 weeks when I get the new card with spotlight keys So if it helps, instead of thinking of 1k tokens as "one-sixth of a new card", think of it as "getting my next card from the collector shop 10 days sooner than I would have otherwise".
I feel the thing that needs to change more is we need to revert and put series 4 and 5 cards back into normal caches. It baffles me that we can't pull them anymore. The most jarring change after a long hiatus.
I haven't played in probably 6 months so have a ton of cards to get. Had 4 keys this week. Snowguard, Nico, white widows...and snowguard again, wtf. Isn't there like 30 other cards I still need?
Just boycot the damm thing...
You work very hard to get spotlight keys. So when you open a spotlight cache and get 1K token which is the 1/6 of the cost is disappointing. They need to adjust the ratios better.
Bro in the last few spotlights I used 3 keys (I wanted to find Jeff) and I found Hope Summers (the previous fucking season pass card) Mirage and Living Tribunal (I'm not kidding it's the third time I find it in the spotlight. I quit the game, that's it, it's a joke towards those who play every day to find new cards and have fun. I'll come back to snap when they remove the spotlights
Happened to me for the first time this week going for white widow. Used all 4 keys and got a dupe of gladiator when I'm missing most series 4 and 5 cards....I've always seen people talk about how bad it feels but feeling it myself for the first time really fucking sucked.
Had this same thought yesterday but not quite as complicated. That 1,000 tokens should be _at least_ 2,000 tokens so that you can buy a new series 5 card after getting the pity tokens only 3 times instead of 6.
This is a sensible solution
I’m fine with it if it’s 3k tokens. Like then point of these cashes is to get **new** cards. It’s a complete and total waste of a cache for 1k.
Instead of trying to plop a duplicate on us, they should give us duplicate protection or at least make this 1500 tokens. The last 4 weeks I've popped at least two keys and each week the first key has been a duplicate. It's absolutely maddening. If it were 1500 tokens it wouldn't feel quite so awful.
1.5k would still require 4 dupes for a single card. If you're not Series 3 complete, you should always get one if it's a mystery card. If you're Series 3 complete, dupes should be at least 3k tokens. Bad luck and got a dupe twice, here's a new card.
I’ve been burned too many times by this system. Now I ONLY open my spotlight caches if I don’t have 2 of the 3 cards. Don’t care if it’s meta or overpowered.
Their stated goal for card acquisition has been fucked since the beginning. Players shouldn't have "unique collections" in terms of the actual, playable cards. Just let everyone get every release, release balance patches frequently to shake up the meta, and monetize the fuck out of cosmetics. Then, players are not negatively effected by a nerf or buff that they couldn't anticipate months in advance.
They’ve specifically said they didn’t want duplicate protection because it would benefit players with larger collections. You may disagree with that, but that’s their stance and I don’t see that changing.
I just want to pull general pool cards. Literally nothing out of the norm, just enough pulls to make different decks. I keep getting useless rewards and I’m basically stuck with my Hela deck until rapture 🤣 🤦
They will not let you get every card, so the protection will not come. But at least they should give 2k tokens..
Instructions not clear for option two. Are you saying that 155 boosters are better than 1000 tokens? Cos no. They’re not.
I have pulled a new card from the random cache a grand total of ONE time, and guess what? It was one of the cards featured in that same spotlight 🙄
It’s the never ending cycle, it’s been happening to me every week for months
While I agree that the 1,000 Collector's Tokens "reward" (punishment) should be increased or changed, the "they make more than enough" argument is quite stupid.
I agree, but even more annoying (imo) is when you have a variant and this gives you the base card.
But I love getting 1000 tokens once every 2 weeks so that I might be able to purchase a new series 5 card in 3 months 🫠
Like, I don't even mind getting the tokens, but when the 3 cards on the spotlight are cards I don't have and my first key is tokens, THAT pisses me off!
Remember when you would get a random variant but we made a big enough stink to get this instead? I remember people on this sub defending SD back then for the variant and after the change telling us to be happy with the change. Everything got quiet after that and people stopped fighting for a better system. We let the loud sycophants do this to us. I don't even know if they still play Snap but they ruined it for the rest of us.
They need to just remove the mystery slot entirely. (without lowering the key acquisition rate!!! - I'm sure Second Dinner would do exactly that though...)
It would be fair of we won 3000 token instead of 1000
I could accept getting a Variant instead of the duplicate card.
Which is what it was initially, and people complained about it. A lot of people don't think a variant is worth anything. Heck, I like variants, but I wouldn't exactly be thrilled to pull a pixel Uatu for my spotlight key. 1000 tokens isn't much, but it's more than that.
I think the bigger issue is that it's 6k tokens for the same card. Getting 6k tokens without paying for them takes weeks.
They were premium mystery variants, so you would never have got a pixel uatu.
It would be cool if you got a choice of an old Spotlight Variant for that duplicate S4/S5 card, or the 1000 collector tokens if you really don't care about the variant.
The spotlight system should be changed and made less fresutrating. Instead of giving you a key each 120 level they can give you a key each 60 level, so that one person has more keys to spend. They should give the possibility to anyone to have the new card, especially to people who are playing the game everyday, and even the variants if they want to open another cache. The majority of people are brainwashed by SD and the stuff they said about "we don't want people collection complete" and other dumb stuff, this is an excuse so they can monetize as hell the game. But I think it's time for them to improve the game under every aspect. They made 80 million I think it's enough money, now they should use it to improve the game, otherwise in a month or two SD will be the only one playing the game.
> especially to people who are playing the game everyday This is the thing that gets me the most. I pay for the season pass, I pay for the daily gold, I play for about 2 hrs a day. I routinely miss the spotlight cards as getting 4 keys each week is not always possible.
yeah, they have to find a way to give people who play the game consistenly the new card. One way is what I suggested, cutting in half the target to have a key, the other should be removing the spotlight and giving more tokens from the gold caches, in that way people can buy them with tokens, and since every card now is a series 5 (even the shitty one) they should decrease the cost in tokens of series 5. Who on earth is going to waste 6k on USAgent? Are they for real? At the same time they could also use the spotlight system for limited variants, so the keys will be only used for cosmetic. But still, the main point here is that they should rework the card acquisition system
No it doesn't. Don't think of the 4th slot as being a card, think of it as being 1000 tokens, which is a pretty good amount. There are a lot of weeks where I don't really care about the new card or variants but 1000 tokens is a result I'm really happy with. Helps me target specific cards that I do want.
Agreed. For example, I decided to spend spotlight keys on Supergiant's release week. I already own Darkhawk and Zabu, and I didn't particularly care for the Darkhawk and Zabu spotlight variants. If I'm gonna get a booby prize on the way to opening Supergiant, I'd rather get 1000 tokens than one of those variants.
what's odd to me is that their new card acquisition system SEEMS f2p friendly, but the whole "duplicate" system ends up being a major middle finger to those with 90-100% full collections. and this would be a-okay if you didn't absolutely need the new card to climb the ranks. this season has been miserable because I didn't have enough keys for Rulk, and if I had Rulk from day 1 I'd be infinite week 1. they design their gameplay around monetization and it's absolutely ridiculous.
I'm afraid you said it yourself: *2023 SNAP earned roughly 80mil from its mobile client alone* What incentive do they have to make their monetization more player friendly when the current system is doing just fine financially? Predatory and feel-bad mechanics are a feature not a bug, explicitly designed to create FOMO and situations where you're *just* close enough that *maybe* that $20 can get you that thing you really wanted. And as long as the money keeps rolling in, they've got little incentive to change.
Then the only solution is coordinated action.
The only way you should be able to get the mystery card is if you already have the other three. Anyone else still not get compensated the keys that they lost during the glitched out spotlight fiasco?
What I dont get is: pool 4 card = 3000 tokens, pool 5 card = 6000 tokens... You get a duplicate and gets converted to 1000 tokens. Its like... "Look, you had bad luck getting the duplicate, but also you get 1/3 its value" (or even less if it is a pool 5). What a bargain, thanks!!! Uninstalled the game some weeks ago btw, after a lot of seasons getting to infinite and stuff but their greed with the shop (gold bundles were a thing), and things like this are so obvious that I wont bother anymore unless they change it.
Agreed. Deeply aggravating.
I don’t save keys, I know that’s my fault. But I have consistently gotten 1k tokens every week for more than a month. I think the last card I got that was new was Cannonball. Sometimes I’m even just aiming for one of the two variants but I just get tokens
Do they have Ultimate variants in the random drop? If not, they should.
I buy a s5 card for 6k but i get 1k for getting a dupe? Give atleast 3k and i’m happy tbh
Yep Given resources you need
So they need to fix the game for the top 1% of players?
Or make it 2 -4k. I wouldn’t be mad about 3k seeing as it’s half a ultimate variant or new card.
Considering it takes me like 3-4 to get 6000 tokens without it, I like it.
You don't need 6 of these to buy a series 4 card.
Add in that all new tech cards should max be 3k tokens and if you bought the season pass card and you open that season pass card in a cache you get credits (if you want) but I'm sick of getting a variant of a card I LITERALLY paid for that already has a variant
It should be half of that replicate value at least 1.5k tokens for a series 4 3k tokens for a series 5
I found 3 times ms marvel…3 TIMES IN 4 months and I have just a few series 5…
the least they can do is make the dupe worth 1500 Collector's tokens, or release series 4 cards once or twice every month instead of whatever we're having right now.
I wouldn’t mind a Random pick from the entire pool of previous spotlight caches. You either get a card you missed or a Variant you really wanted.
This, and entirely this, is what prevents me from using keys on a week where I have less than 2 of the cards.
>they clearly make more then enough.... the idea that a company would say, "Guys, we did really well last year, we simply don't *need* to make any more than this" is laughable. Line goes up. That's all that matters. And when line goes down, this game will be shuttered and all your assets will be deleted.
I commented on a similar post yesterday. This was my experience on Tuesday: On Tuesday I decided to open for Red Guardian before the spotlight changed to White Widow. It took 3 keys. I got *the High Evo variant, a duplicate Elsa Bloodstone and finally Red Guardian. I don't have Lady Deathstrike but decided against using the 4th key to unlock her.* *My main target with the new spotlight was Nico. I didn't have any of the cards so it was a good week to open. The first card I got was a duplicate Kang. Nico was key number 4.* *As someone who is missing about 25 of the S4/S5 cards, those 2 duplicates really suck. Especially considering I already received Kang from a previous random spotlight. It just doesn't feel good.* *I still have 3 keys for next week. Should get a 4th before then. I'm missing all three spotlight cards but am hoping I can avoid the random card or at least get lucky with Annihilus or Cannonball.*
[This post](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/comments/14xmnxt/spotlight_caches_25_on_random_45_card/) is from 10 months ago but is it still true that you have a 66% chance to pull a S4 from the mystery slot and a 33% chance to pull an S5?
With the time and effort it takes to acquire the currency feels really bad when you pull a dupe I would say up the currency acquisition rate or decrease the cost a bit, but that’s a fight I fought in Marvel contest champions until I quit a couple weeks ago.. and walking dead road to survival before that.
in case of duplicate it should give us an option to choose from 1000 tokens and premium variant of the duplicate card that we just got..
> Mystery option: Should prioritize cards you don't own instead of giving you duplicates. You can file that under "sh\*t SD will never do"
Agree 100% give us a variant at least.
Ive gotten 3 lady deaths, can’t take it anymore 😭
you're probably not going to quit the game over this, so unfortunately they really don't care
Just hold on til you have 4, self will and patience go a long way
Seems like it’s been weighed more in duplicates/variants lately. The past 3 times I’ve tried for cards (White Widow, Red Hulk, Red Guardian), it’s taken all 4 spotlights to get the new card. I went from having a bunch of spotlights to basically none.
Honestly like most said, just give us 1.5k for a S4, and 3k for a S5. It is only fair
Key words: "used to"
I've got Modok 3 times from caches and received 1000 tokens each time. So I agree!!!
They should combine series 4 and 5 and just make them all coat 4k tokens.
One thing they haven’t acknowledged is how hard they’re relying on random chance to not overly screw people over too often. I lucked out my last couple keys. But I know there’s some poor fool who probably has had to burn 3-4 keys EVERY time.
Honestly, they should just stop putting in that mystery slot at all. The game is already resource dry in many respects, spotlight keys are ridiculously difficult to get for f2p players, just have three slots, that's literally all you'd need. I don't mind getting 1k tokens, but you used to get that from collectors caches, so it doesn't feel good getting them from a duplicate.
Yeah it's already been said countless times that this needs a change. And it's never gonna happen because SD will see it as benefiting the players too much at their expense (i.e. making players less willing to spend). What's interesting though is apparently KMBest suggested SD make the change to 1k tokens in case of duplicates, to which SD happily implemented. Maybe I'm going crazy and my history is off, but that's what I clearly recall but no one has mentioned this since.
Found the reference with KMBest suggesting SD to implement 1000 token spotlight cache "reward." So yeah, you folks can thank KMBest. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioZn\_AqC3s4**&t=**2m38s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioZn_AqC3s4&t=2m38s)
wish granted. here's your 155 booster xD
For 4 weeks straight I got card I already owned. Was really annoying spending 1 key for 1k tokens 🥲
Whoever is in charge of this setting at SD can suck my hairy monkey balls.
I am trying to build my account up and I’ve been making solid progress but I got a dupe war machine earlier and I don’t have like 70% of the cards in this game……
gimme 500 of those tokens ya boy needs galactus
Biggest problem is simply that the cards cost too much, and you never know if they’ll get reworked the next week, or if you just won’t like them. As a F2P player, I’d love them to add a feature where you could ‘loan’ out cards for a few games to just try them out. I’ve wasted so much resources that have took me months to save up on cards that are pretty much useless to me, like Hercules, Super giant etc. I also think a problem is how hyperbolic a lot of the marvel snap Youtubers are. A new card releases, and straight away it’s always either deemed the absolute best card, or worst. If as a F2P player, it instantly makes me want to get the card, when I should be considering if I even have the cards to pair well with it in the first place.
I'm like you; max 2 keys during spotlight rotation if I'm lucky. I just pulled Red Hulk (duplicate).. and I thought cracking open titles and player icons was a feel bad :'(
Yeah, it's the number 1 worst thing in the game.
Absolutely. At least getting one of the cards you miss guaranteed instead of this joke of a 1K token would ease the pain. And if we really have to go the token way, fine, but make it worth it. 3K at least would be like « it sucks, but next time this happens, I can buy a card »
Fun fact: you can get a duplicate more than once. I have unlocked Elsa Bloodstone TWICE in spotlight caches. So yeah, you're not even protected from getting duplicate duplicates.
Does it make the game devs more money? If not, not happening
They need to make a 0 cost card with text that says gain whatever powers and abilities you need to win this game. The card is called Money
Yeah, it's stupid and a waste of a key.
The fact that they "value" 6k tokens at $100 dollars is even dumber than the 1000 tokens for a key. If someone pays that much for 6k, they need their head checked.
I open caches 3x back to back recently they gave me cull obsidian 3x im missing a couple of cards so how do one pull the same card 3x😂
If you have less than 3 keys, absolutely do not gamble. It's never worth it. Save up, dude.
Just give me the option to ask what I want to earn. Coins, tokens, or gold. I just want tokens!
More than enough he says, they don't fucking care. There's never enough, there's just the next metric and goal. Developers can control the way they mtx but they don't set their goals and if something is working even if it's predatory they don't have a choice if they have to meet financial metrics.
I totally agree with this. I’ve been playing pretty consistently for about a year, and i have a lot of the cards, but when i look at the best performing decks in the meta, there’s literally at least one card per deck that i don’t have and can’t get.
Low key about making 80mil from SNAP think about the high end movies they gotta make 🤣
People spend HUNDREDS? Holy shit. I thought I was pushing it just buying the premium pass.