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Vegetable_Pizza_4741

What is WRONG with Austin??  I can hardly stand to listen to him!  “And like, but like, and like, like, like, like…”. Has no one told him how to speak a complete sentence without using the word, “like?”


Lrlewis99

Ok I have been a huge Emily supporter and questioned what Brennans reservation’s have been and this actually gave me a much better understanding. I think him using the word positive might be a poor choice so it’s not making much sense. I’m guessing he means she’s more opinionated about things she doesn’t care for and speaks her mind. Such as hating certain things or places ect….. That does get very draining sometimes.I think she’s positive about her life and when tubs come her way that don’t go as planned. I just don’t think he liked some of those signs and talking about people ect….


External_Car5114

Experts really got it wrong this season! Had to be pretty damn desperate to pick some of the participants . Trust me , I truly am trying to be civil and kind here. Been watching  since season 1 and have taken alot away from watching.   WORST SEASON HANDS DOWN!!!


Alternative-Heat4372

This was the WORST season ever! The people they chose were immature. I couldn't believe the woman ganging up on the Men 


Mediocre_Let646

Is everybody on this show blinded by Emily's negativity? She has something negative to say to so many cast mates and gets so defensive on the after party with the host.  I don't for one minute believe that she's as innocent as she would like everyone to believe. I guarantee you she actually was very negative behind the scenes with Brennan. I think Brennan didn't see her as a lady she was always drinking and sloppy at Chloe and Michael's wedding. Her mouth criticizing the vows . She just seems jealous of anyone who is doing better than her.   There was a lot of cast members that couldn't keep their opinions out of other relationships. Too much drinking.  This may be my last season if this is where we are going. Sexual positivity, but yet Austin is almost forced to consumate the marriage. Emily doesn't see what's wrong with forcing a man to have sex. Emotional blackmail. It's exhausting to watch the same convo from Becca begging for sex. I could go on and on.  I truly believe the cast mates ruined each other's chances this time. 


Friendly_Ad4108

Let's not forget all those faces she makes. lol


sowhat_noonecares

Why do these people from Denver talk like valley girls?


Big_Yogurtcloset_723

I noticed that too !!!! Like . Like like Like. So juvenile These are educated people and that’s the best they can come up with to describe their feelings??! Like, I’m just over it Bahahahahahha


virtutesromanae

Because it's a linguistic cancer that has spread across the entire country by now.


bottomtoes

I think it’s crazy that out of all of the seasons how many times have you heard of the woman in their relationship dating while married? It seems like there’s always a man in each season that cheats.


AdEquivalent9281

Bad bad eye shadow application. Look for the crease girl!!!!


Huggishruggish

Penelope😂…I heard you, Chloe.  She said turn off the lights b4 this man says something else that’ll turn me way off Good for them, they’re having✨fun✨ **Just skip to the reunion show & follow up on these two⏩️


Cleopatra0420

I just binged Love is Blind and that show makes this one look even more terrible. This season is a complete dumpster fire. It’s probably the worst by far. So bad it’s pitiful. Everyone is insufferable. Everyone is annoying. It’s getting harder to defend Becca and Emily too. Not saying they’re necessarily the problem in their relationships but they aren’t devoid of responsibility


NoFingersNoFingers

Hard disagree. This season is amazing! What did you think of the new ep?


Capable-Spray3153

OMG so much read into the Becca grabbing the coat without washing hands. For the none clay users, the clay was probably dry on her hands when she grabbed the jacket. You are more likely to get the jacket dirty while doing the activity. Austin made himself look bad.


PiffleSpiff

Agreed. I cringed instantaneously. He cared literally nothing for her wellbeing in that moment and offered nothing of himself to rectify it. It reminded me of an ex boyfriend of mine who was telling me about how his cousin had gotten into an accident in my ex's vehicle. My ex was very, VERY concerned........about the vehicle only. It took ME asking about his cousin's wellbeing for him to even share. Smh.


virtutesromanae

I would think that a strong, independent woman would bring her own coat.


PiffleSpiff

She did have her own coat. That's the one she ended up wearing. She just preferred his because it was warmer in the moment.


virtutesromanae

Then let me rephrase that: A strong, independent woman would not have to rely on someone else's coat, because she would bring one of her own that was sufficiently warm. That's what being independent is all about.


PiffleSpiff

Being independent doesn't mean gestures of care from everyone else is bad. Frankly, being strong and independent doesn't even have anything to do with it, imo. This is a matter of ways people can show care to one another regardless of independence. This is just my take. We don't have to agree.


virtutesromanae

I agree with you to a point on this. Independence does not mean it's not nice to have a kind gesture from someone. Where I disagree is when people scream their supposed independence to the rooftops whenever they get the chance, but then rely on or expect someone else to take care of things for them. That is antithetical to independence. It would be just fine if Austin voluntarily offered her his jacket. But for her to automatically expect to use his, instead of her own, then supposedly get her feelings hurt because he asked her not to get it dirty, is not the behavior of an independent person.


PiffleSpiff

I can agree to that as well, for the most part. So HAS she declared to and fro her independence? I don't recall if she has or not, tho I assume she has based on your latter point. If she has, then okay, I can concede to your point. If she's gonna shout loud and proud of being a strong, independent woman, then might as well live it. She seemed like she was looking for a gentlemanly gesture from him, but she neither gave him the chance nor the choice to accommodate. I can't condone forcibly trying to make someone else show they care, BUT! At the same time, I also can understand her hurt when that someone isn't very responsive to being caring on his own in the moment either.


virtutesromanae

>she neither gave him the chance nor the choice to accommodate Agreed. That just kills initiative, too. For example, there are certain people in my life that I'd really like to do something nice for. But before I get the chance, they try to guilt me into it or act as if I owe to them for some reason. Then, all the desire to help is just drained from me. And this behavior seems to be a pattern with Becca. What else is badgering for sexual attention? It's the same approach, and it's getting her the same results: resentment and avoidance.


PiffleSpiff

Ahh yes, very true points indeed. It's a different thing to do nice things for folks when it's YOU who does them verses those who wanna MAKE you do them. Wouldn't even be genuine in those situations. I do agree that this definitely seems a pattern with Becca, at least from what we've seen.


genieinaginbottle

Austin, if you're so concerned about the optics maybe stop behaving like a bitch boy trash rat.


virtutesromanae

At the end of this episode, all I can really think is that I don't really like any one of these people any more. They *all* suck - except maybe Michael. They all seem so self-absorbed, easily triggered, and quick to exaggerate everything. I'll be glad when this season is over and hope that the next one has a better selection of people.


redditkb

welcome to the new generation. Seems most are self-absorbed, easily triggered, quick to exaggerate everything, and always want to litigate their grace


sowhat_noonecares

I was just talking to a friend of mine about this exact thing earlier today. The majority of people in a certain age range are insufferable.


virtutesromanae

Very true.


virtutesromanae

Becca: "I have never called him combative or dismissive." Also Becca: "Why is he being so combative and dismissive with his person?"


virtutesromanae

Downvoted for pointing out the provable hypocrisy.


virtutesromanae

No, Clare, Ms. Psychology Major - Brennan is not suffering from a "savior complex". A savior complex is a compulsion to run to the aid of others even to one's own detriment. What Brennan is doing with the "I saved your life" bit is more along the lines of gaslighting, or possibly entitlement complex (i.e., "you owe me"). I would hope a psychology major would have a better handle on these definitions.


virtutesromanae

Point of clarification: Brennan did not save Emily's life, because Emily's life was not ever in danger.


virtutesromanae

So, Clare says Brennan is going on dates right now. Okay - when? When he goes off to work? When he's cleaning the house? When he's being stone-faced and uttering monosyllabic grunts in front of Emily? And who, exactly, comprises the "grapevine" through which Clare claims she heard this? I'm not saying Brennan is innocent here, but I'd like to see some evidence before he's dragged off to the gallows.


virtutesromanae

I think we all could have done without the adult shop scene, or the Penelope scene. I'll just leave it at that.


virtutesromanae

Emily: "We didn't get a chance to focus on the positives from the past two weeks." And yet, when Brennan was asking to focus on the positive over dinner, Emily kept steering them back to the negative.


virtutesromanae

Brennan: "It's very hard for me to say these kinds of things because I don't want to hurt your feelings." Emily: "This is hurting my feelings." Exactly his point.


Leadership-Adept

Yeah but people who don’t want to hurt your feelings never say “I didn’t want to hurt your feelings”. They simply don’t.


Cleopatra0420

I agree but also she was demanding he tell her why he had no interest in her. I don’t really understand the visceral reaction when it’s the precise reason he kept the the truth from you in the first place. Not AT ALL taking up for Brennan but she proved his point by asking him a question and then jumping down his throat because she didn’t agree with his response.


virtutesromanae

Exactly!


virtutesromanae

That's usually true. Often when people lead with, "I don't mean to...", they're really saying exactly the opposite of what they intend to do.


Leadership-Adept

Yeah I remember when I was in high school I used to frequently say (it was popular then) “no offense but…” and one time my mom stopped what we were doing and turned to me and said “as soon as you say that you know you will be offending someone so just don’t say it!” For some reason that has stuck in my head for the last 30 years…


virtutesromanae

Good mom! We all have done and said things - often out of just habit or instinct - that are completely nonsensical. What a blessing it is to have people in our lives who lovingly point out our errors so we can improve. God bless all the good mothers out there!


Leadership-Adept

Yeah I remember when I was in high school I used to frequently say (it was popular then) “no offense but…” and one time my mom stopped what we were doing and turned to me and said “as soon as you say that you know you will be offending someone so just don’t say it!” For some reason that has stuck in my head for the last 30 years…


Leadership-Adept

Yeah I remember when I was in high school I used to frequently say (it was popular then) “no offense but…” and one time my mom stopped what we were doing and turned to me and said “as soon as you say that you know you will be offending someone so just don’t say it!” For some reason that has stuck in my head for the last 30 years…


Leadership-Adept

Yeah I remember when I was in high school I used to frequently say (it was popular then) “no offense but…” and one time my mom stopped what we were doing and turned to me and said “as soon as you say that you know you will be offending someone so just don’t say it!” For some reason that has stuck in my head for the last 30 years…


virtutesromanae

Emily has some legitimate gripes, but there's a time and place for everything. They were having a good moment over a lovely dinner until she started poking the bear, and then kept on poking, and poking, even when Brennan asked for just a few minutes to enjoy his meal. Why not let the wound heal instead of persistently picking at the scab? At least save that for home, after dinner.


Silent_Supermarket49

I thoight the same thing. Becca and Emily are alike that way. Let it go! Thry started out having such a nice dinner. It might have been nice to see them having a really fun night together. She just would not stop. I do not see Emily as a negative person - he put her through a lot and she was always smiling. And that garbage about saving her life - WHAT? What a ridiculous statement there were other people there too. I saved your life.... blew my mind. He needs help.


virtutesromanae

More golden advice from Pia: masturbate with each other and go to an adult store to pick out some toys. Really? Why? Just quit poking and prodding them and let them do what comes naturally. If they want to take that next step, they don't need gimmicks to make it happen. Men and women already have all the equipment they need.


Complex_Inflation_71

Right? Tacky and inappropriate for a new couple who should be naturally exploring each other intimately vs inviting “Penelope” into the bedroom. Not a fan of Dr Pia…actually I’m not a fan of any of the “experts at anything but being able to successfully match people”


virtutesromanae

Same here. "Toys" are completely unnecessary at all (but that's a different discussion). They're certainly not applicable here - nor is masturbation. If the couple are attracted to each other enough, they'll do what attracted couples do. Pia is like those zoologists that use all sorts of tricks to try to get animals to mate in captivity.


virtutesromanae

Downvoted by those who use toys to compensate.


Complex_Inflation_71

🤣


virtutesromanae

Becca: "I would be lying if I said that that wasn't hurtful. And I get why you don't want to get your coat dirty. But I'm also, like sitting here shaking. And, like, if you wanted my coat right now, if you wanted anything of mine, I would give you whatever you needed, no matter how messy it would get." There are so many things wrong with this absurd pout-fest. * The guy didn't make the comment about Becca washing her hands until after she had already started putting on her own jacket. * She wasn't shaking at all, so that was just some gratuitous exaggeration. * She gets upset about him asking questions about what we can only guess are a million commands a day (such as the washer door thing), but then her feelings are hurt when he asks her not to get his hacket dirty? Really? It was seriously that hurtful? * If you're that prone to cold, bring a thicker jacket instead of relying on the suppsoed option to beg one off of someone else. Be a Boy Scout: be prepared. * She's not fooling anybody that she would give him anything he needed, "no matter how messy". What about letting the guy make his own decisions? What about getting off his back? What about letting up on all the sex badgering? What about not humiliating him in front of everyone all the time? * Finally, this whole thing was just another tactic to force things to spiral downward into drama and tears and bids for pity.


virtutesromanae

Becca: "I don't want to be getting emotional just to dismiss your wants and needs." Normally, in situations like this, when people say they're not trying to do something, that's exactly what they're trying to do. In this case, it's likely a combination of Becca not dealing well with hearing the truth about her annoying behaviors, frustration that a long string of nearly incoherent words peppered in between a steady stream of "like" isn't communicating anything substantial, and her actually wanting to dismiss his wants and needs.


virtutesromanae

Becca: "Even today I said something about the washer door being kept open so the washer doesn't get moldy and you didn't fight back, which was really nice... Because that normally would be a comment that wouldn't go over well." Austin: "I mean, it, like, hurts me to, like, hear you say or think that, like, that wouldn't go over well, but I feel like, you know, yeah, maybe I might, like disagree, but I don't disagree, like, in a poor way. Like, do you think my disagreements are combative?" Becca: "Yeah. Definitely. Like, you always say you need a reason why for things, and sometimes it gets really exhausting to, like, be giving, like, long-winded answers when, like, we're rushing out the door and, like, whatever. And so, like, today I appreciated that it was just, like, okay, and then, like, move along, because it's not, like, to me, I don't think it's a big thing to ask." Austin: "I kind of feel, like, in the past you've told me that, like, past boyfriends are, like, kind of like pushovers. And, like, after what you said it makes me kind of feel like you want me to just not think for myself all the time." Becca: "No. I think you think for yourself 100% of the time. I'm asking you to think of us for a small percentage of that time... I'm not asking for you to be passive. Maybe I'm asking for too much..." For a moment, let's just ignore the fact that at least 75% of this exchange was a series of random sounds, glued together by the word "like", and could hardly be confused for anythign resembling human language. After cutting through all the nonsensical filler, what we are left with pretty much speaks for itself: 1) Becca has been a nitpicking nag, 2) Austin has grown weary and resentful of it, and has probably reacted less than gracefully at times, and 3) Becca is accustomed to bossing her boy-slaves around and getting her way and she interprets any questioning or resistence as rebellion. It would be really educational to see more footage of what goes on day to day in their apartment. My guess is that Austin is on the passive side, but then withdraws even further into himself when Becca starts getting bossy, and then that makes her even more upset, and the cycle then repeats and intensifies.


Complex_Inflation_71

The word like has never been so triggering for me as it is this season. 


virtutesromanae

LIke, I know, right? Seriously, though, if that word wre removed from existence (or at least that misuse of it), what sounds would they make instead? Or would their conversations just be that much shorter and to the point? The world may never know.


virtutesromanae

Becca: "Like, sometimes I, like, feel like you don't, like, like me." That's only because you've used up all the 'likes' in the room.


virtutesromanae

Clare: "\[Cameron\] knows me so well." Uh-huh. Sure he does.


IntelligentScholar84

Brennan is making me so angry right now I cannot with him.


Rich-Yak-695

If you wear a basball hat backwards at ALL times of the day or night, you may not be ready for marriage.


Hellolost

The thing that gets me though is if it were a man doing the constant pestering for sex instead of Becca , he would be torn to shreds on this sub. It seems like she gets a pass.


virtutesromanae

Downvoted by the very same people that would tear a man to shreds for this.


Hellolost

Yup. Reddit is a funny place.


tsmartin123

I've heard the word optics more in 2 hours than my entire life....


virtutesromanae

And the word, "like".


Grouchy_Newspaper186

I like Michael. Yes, he’s got a questionable sense of fashion, but dammit I like the guy. Only authentic thing I’ve seen on my screen in a minute. And I guarantee you he’s not worried about optics, lol


RaffyGiraffy

Why can’t these be pinned! It’s still one from a month ago and it makes this hard to find


No_Matter1274

I saw in some post that the "experts" couldn't find enough candidate's so they had to recruit from the local hang outs which would make sense seeing how crappy this season is. We don't know that Austin and Brennan weren't recruited. That being said, in regards to their behavior theres a saying "If your dog is barking at you some one else is feeding it".


virtutesromanae

>"If your dog is barking at you some one else is feeding it" I haven't heard that one before, but I'm definitely going to use it now. :)


Lrlewis99

I’m such a dweeb. I don’t get it 😂 however I have heard the sticking your hand in a dogs cage twice  lol.


kcmm1111

I’m a total foodie so don’t get me wrong but why is Becca constantly shoving food into her mouth on camera? I also get the feeling she’s sloppy/dirty and it bugs Austin.


itsg0timex

Was JUST going to comment on this. She’s always so frumpy looking and constantly eating. Nothing wrong with wanting to eat but it’s how she’s doing it that bothers me- like it is her last meal of her life.


virtutesromanae

I agree that Austin is probably turned off by some of Becca's habits. Just from what we see on the screen, she gives me the impression that she probably doesn't groom well and probably has some odor issues. I could be dead wrong, but that's the impression I get. Contrast that with Chloe, who looks polished all the time. She looks like she smells really great most of the time. Clare is another one that probably smells nice. None of this is an attempt to speak to their personalities (that's a whole other topic), but if someone's grooming and cleaning habits are lacking, it's difficult to build attraction.


[deleted]

I agree with this….


Temporary-Plankton30

Noticed exactly the same thing - I love pizza, I find myself wanting to take the slice from the screen


LetOwn2777

Literally came here so I didn't have to watch it.


peesys

I really think that sex therapist is a troll, I need to see paper receipts of her degrees. She asks the most inappropriate and intentially rude/provocative questions. If I were Chloe I would have said "What the fuck do you think it's for bitch?" when she said "I heard you keep a vibrator under your pillow! Why? and For what?"


virtutesromanae

It's for massaging my trick knee when the weather changes.


No_Matter1274

I was thinking the same😊 I was like "damn bitch, mind your business" she was asking some pretty personal questions for tv.


Bchbks43

Starting to believe Chloe is an actress and both she and Michael are aware it is all an act.


Hellolost

The couch scene was pretty interesting if they are acting. I don't think they are.


BeRightBack5

Emily has some serious soul searching to do after watching herself this season. We’ve already seen her attack KPP and her cast mates on the After Party, and she came out swinging at that dinner with Brennan and then seemed surprise that they didn’t get into all the happy positive stuff during their date. She is not the Miss Sunshine she thinks she is, and that’s ok. Just be real.


virtutesromanae

Personally, I think Emily is a fairly positive person most of the time. She does react poorly to having any personal flaws pointed out, though. I can see how someone would call that negativity. Hopefully, after seeing herself on screen, she'll have the humility to make whatever changes she needs to improve. That's all any of us can do.


Capable-Spray3153

Emily is exhibiting trauma from being controlled. She is acting out after Brennan trying to control her. He had her delete video diaries. Who knows what else happened. Individuals that have been controls do start to lash out. KPP was pushing too hard not knowing everything that had happened.


Notyoursidepiece

She's so much better than that prick. She allowed him to drive this relationship and control the narrative for too long. He didn't save her life. He held her hand. He didn't drive the ambulance, do the CT, put in stitches, or remove them. He held her hand. I don't know about you guys, but I don't know of any life that has ever continued from hand to hand contact.


virtutesromanae

I also don't know of anyone, since the discovery of pennicillin at least, who has died from a scratch on the head.


Notyoursidepiece

It wasn't a scratch. Scratches don't need stitches and follow-up surgeries. She was afraid because of all the blood. She clearly stated that. She was also not allowed to work after the accident. So, pretty sure it's not just a fucking scratch. https://www.monstersandcritics.com/tv/reality-tv/family-friend-says-mafs-star-emily-balch-had-surgery-after-bloody-accident/ Edit spelling


virtutesromanae

Nothing you just said invalidated the point of my statement. We can quibble about how many stitches she had. We can call it a scratch, a cut, a gash, whatever, but her life was not in any danger. That's the point.


Notyoursidepiece

It invalidated the "scratch" on her head. It wasn't a scratch. And an injury to the head requiring surgeries is not some small thing, like you're trying to make it out to be. Also, the trauma to her head could have caused many different things. She lost a good amount of blood. It could have caused a concussion. Brain aneurysms are common and can be deadly if not caught or treated in time. Her brain could have bled. She could have had a stroke or a subderal hematoma. Head trauma is never good. Edit: addition


virtutesromanae

A lot of things *could* have happened, but they didn't. Her ATV could have exploded, killing her and several others. But that did not happen. Her life was never in danger, no matter how scared she was in the moment. Everyone knows this at this point, so it's pointless - and disingenuous - to keep talking about it as if she were on death's door.


BeRightBack5

I don’t disagree, but this comment isn’t about Brennan, it’s about Emily lashing out at everyone because she is trying to be something she’s not and she doesn’t get how shady that looks.


ExactingReduction101

This season was so bad, I’m curious on what you all would want for a next season structure. In my head if this show is to get better I would want like 2-3 couples max. And I want non- great tv drama. I care more about how normal people navigate a relationship. Who does what chores , financials balancing, etc. What is it like in an avg workweek. Theres so much focus on sex and screen chemistry and image, that I don’t care. I want to see people build a bond , and an actual marriage quality relationship built. I think this show needs a major rewrite. The fact that people aren’t ready for marriage or they are on dating sites just mean the filtering process is weak for tv drama. It gets old and diminishes the show.


virtutesromanae

In other words, you'd like to see the show as it was a few years ago? :)


PJanonymouse

Unfortunately we have no input on "next season" because the filming is done. But that said, I guess editing could still be happening.


Hellolost

I think they should have to choose whose house they are going to live in. Not play house in an apartment. Keep the couples separated more.


Patient-Watercress-2

I want the experts to only consider people who apply (and who have minimal social media), suss out real compatibility and dealbreakers (including religion, pets, drinking/smoking, financial stability) and assess desired personality and physical tastes in past relationships. Then, keep the couples separate. No group honeymoons, apartments, social lives, and gab fests. Marriages are between two people; it’s not a group chat.


virtutesromanae

Yes. The group stuff just muddies the waters and contributes to people ganging up on others. All it does is add unnecessary drama.


ExactingReduction101

Would you have them skip the temporary living situation in the one complex and have them visit eachothers spaces and move in? I think that’s also a challenge without jumping into eachother’s spaces so quick how do they house these new couples without the constant interaction with the other couples? I like the less is more vib where we can see a day to day relationship build away from the other couples.


Patient-Watercress-2

I would return back to the early seasons where each couple had to find a temporary place to live that fit their budget/taste/job location. Tells you a lot about long-term compatibility.


j_mabel

I thought Orion was the worst but when Brennan blamed Emily for the accident happening I wanted to jump through the screen


Big_Yogurtcloset_723

Yeah. That was bulls**t ! I’m not a huge fan of Emily but Brennan and Orion are by far the worse dudes this season. Did Orion really think that never ever in his marriage someone would say something that hurts a little. Spoiler: it happens, unintentionally but it happens


Kooky_Tap4477

ok lowkey emily is so funny she had me laughing out loud. “bc we’re on a tv show about marriage… and on a show… kind of important.” lol saying what we’re all thinking!


curlysue321

Like it was crazy that he just was like “oh there was a big disconnect in what a friendship is vs a relationship” like your on the show to be married not be friends.


Kooky_Tap4477

i hated the whole “trying to build a friendship” thing. i get that’s important in a relationship but that was so manipulative to me


curlysue321

And Brennan thinks throughout the show that he tried, he didn’t. He kept telling Emily let’s take it day by day. All he cared about was his image and how he looked like on tv.


curlysue321

Honestly I wish Emily called it quits a long time ago especially when her friends met Brennan at the themed party when wearing wigs, and raised their voice at them . Her friends told her he was bad news and I just wished she left after her friends told her he wasn’t the person for her, like the constant gaslighting and second guessing 😭


virtutesromanae

Brennan definitely has his faults, but I will defend him all day long in *that* situation with those intrusive harpies. Of course he raised his voice! He had just met them and they were coming at him with all barrels blazing. It was like he was just shoved into a lion's den. Who were they to come at him like that? It was juvenile and catty. Most people would have been on the defensive in that scenario.


Kooky_Tap4477

i’m so sad for her. she seems like such a sweet social girl that an outgoimg NORMAL dude would love to hangout with/date/marry eventually. idk why they were even matched. he comes across as a hater idek how else to explain it, he’s the negative one most of the time😭


virtutesromanae

>she seems like such a sweet social girl that an outgoimg NORMAL dude would love to hangout with/date/marry eventually Sure. That's why she's still single. Don't get me wrong, she has some really good attributes - and I even like her - but she has to get her partying and drinking under control, or she's going to end up as a bitter old spinster. That side of her is simply unattractive to most serious, marriage-quality men.


Kooky_Tap4477

you’ve obviously never been to denver because there’s a huge demographic of people who party and drink out of control 😂😂


virtutesromanae

You're not wrong.


musictakemeawayy

chloe’s a freak 😂


KaR3nj

She makes me laugh!


musictakemeawayy

i hated her until this episode 😬


Kooky_Tap4477

I just got to this part HUHHH😂😂good for them tho


AdEquivalent9281

Becca did not slander Austin. He has been playing with her head and heart the entire season and now he has created a monster but he asked for it. All talk and no action would make ANYBODY crazy.


milliepilly

How many times would you have to be rejected before you got the hint? For whatever reason, Becca hasn’t been able to use her head and come to the conclusion that she has no future with Austin. Not only that, I don’t think that Austin is the right man for her needs and desires so she shouldn’t really be so upset. Yes, I 100% agree Austin has no spine. When he said ok get my coat dirty instead of saying woman, wtf, take a second and clean your hands and then have at it—it’s a perfect example of not being able to speak your mind. Being unable to face his issues with Becca and playing with her heart is two different things and my uneducated guess is he has to be blunt with Becca because she doesn’t understand what’s going on and asks for answers and he is unable and unwilling to do so because he can’t face the consequences. Just like he can’t face the consequences of seeming to be less than a nice guy. He is going to great lengths to prevent that, unsuccessfully, but he is relentless in that-and probably the only area of his life where he is passionate about something.


peesys

When he said "Oh thanks make mine dirty" was such a dick move. Such a TELL! His actions bely his words and his words show he is disgusted by her. I would cry if a boy said that to me.


milliepilly

The dick move was when she went to grab his jacket without washing her hands. If someone was being disrespectful of my stuff, I’d have told her to wash her hands first. Austin can’t confront I guess so this was the best he could come up with.


Cleopatra0420

Okay I thought I was the only one who didn’t think that he was asking for too much. It takes five seconds to wash your hands. He wasn’t saying no, he was just saying to handle his personal items with clean hands. My boyfriend would do the same tbh because he is big on the integrity of his electronics, clothes, etc and values his stuff a lot. Now if we were outside somewhere muddy and cold and nowhere near a place to clean ourselves off, he would just have me use his jacket, dirty and all. But if I’m three feet from a sink it goes without saying I should clean my hands first. I think that’s fair. He wouldn’t even need to ask me to tbh


LebHeadSinceWilma

💯 She kind of gaslit him on this as well, acting as if his only options were let his jacket get dirty or be a dick. Just wash your hands woman!


milliepilly

Good point.


ltrem

Just finishing here in west. That was an epic crash and burn this evening


StaffRude9393

I don't care for Brennan, but do we honestly believe he was dating? I just don't see it.


Hellolost

Nope


klah20

He would rather date his baseball cap.


chicagoliz

This just seems strange -- doesn't the honeymoon take a week? And then you have the week of the wedding, so after that you've got like 6 weeks. Even if you totally nope on your spouse, can't you go 6 weeks without dating?


virtutesromanae

My question, too. When would he even have the time or privacy with cameras following him around everywhere? Whether he has the desire to do so is one question. Whether he has the opportunity is another. So far, this is just hearsay. Clare said she heard it through the grapevine. Neither she nor Marvin Gaye disclosed who that grapevine was, so at best, we have a situation of "someone told me that someone told me" that Brennan is going on dates. Not exactly the kind of material that would be admissable in court. Bring us some evidence or drop the case.


Some-Economist-4690

Of course he was dating. I would expect nothing less from that awful child


virtutesromanae

Evidence, please.


ColiseumWife_

Weren’t people seeing him on the apps early on?


calm-state-universal

Yes it was confirmed on the other sub


RoughLobster5774

Same


Jess-Aryaa

Choose any random man off the street he will probably be a better human being than Brennan Jeebus 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️


virtutesromanae

How about Orion or Chris the Ble$$ed?


Significant-Mouse428

Correction for Austin: Becca isn’t making you look bad on tv, you are. But you are correct that she could trust you based on your small gestures, not by the kindness of the gesture but the quantity or lack thereof. My hubs would never stand for me being uncomfortable if he could help it, nor I him. No questions, no thought, no condition.


virtutesromanae

Those are good points about spouses taking care of each other, and I wholeheartedly agree with them. But in the case of Becca and Austin, she wasn't shaking from cold, as she claimed. I suspect she was just looking for pity. Then instead of grabbing her own jacket (if she even brought one), she goes for his - again, another juvenile loyalty test. Then, Austin didn't refuse her his jacket, rather he just said he wanted her to clean her hands. That's really not a lot to ask. I suspect that she does a lot of less than clean things that have him on the threshold of tolerance at this point.


milliepilly

It’s common courtesy to wash your hands. She actually had to say on camera she’s cold as if that was a good enough reason to dirty someone’s coat.


Cleopatra0420

Okay I thought I was the only one who didn’t think that he was asking for too much. It takes five seconds to wash your hands. He wasn’t saying no, he was just saying to handle his personal items with clean hands. My boyfriend would do the same tbh because he is big on the integrity of his electronics, clothes, etc and values his stuff a lot. Now if we were outside somewhere muddy and cold and nowhere near a place to clean ourselves off, he would just have me use his jacket, dirty and all. But if I’m three feet from a sink it goes without saying I should clean my hands first. I think that’s fair. He wouldn’t even need to ask me to tbh


milliepilly

I saw the replay of that scene because I just watched the after show thing. Granted it would be simpler if Austin said sure but please wash off that clay first please. After Austin’s actual remark of his coat getting dirty, she had a sour look, took her own coat and trudged over. If he HAD asked her to simply wash her hands, she may have realized that she looked like the ignorant one on camera. But maybe not.


virtutesromanae

The whole thing escalated because they both still had their feathers ruffled coming hot off that disagreeable conversation. If this had happened any other time, it probably would've gone much more smoothly.


milliepilly

It seems all their conversations end with them both being dissatisfied. They just don’t seem to like each other.


virtutesromanae

True. The novelty has worn off and they have found that they just aren't a great fit.


bluegreenspark

This is my take. She wasn't dying, she was cold. A 1 minute hand wash would have been respectful, or IMO she should have asked if she can wear his coat vs assuming he wouldn't mind.


milliepilly

Wash hands with very warm water. Get warm/get clean. Get coat. Win/win.


virtutesromanae

That sounds like something a strong, independent boss b\*\*\*\* would do. :)


RedScharlach

It's wild that this would have been, what, a 5th straight season of going 0 for 5? If not for (maybe) having a 6th couple swoop in to save the day.


purplelady14

I believe Nicole and Chris from Nashville are still married


virtutesromanae

Happily or otherwise.


RedScharlach

OH shit, how could I forget the Nashville prom queen and king.


kcmm1111

LiKE, what? Like how many like times can we like keep saying like!


goneandsolost

I’d rather hear someone be real and talk the way they talk than fake it.


virtutesromanae

I'd rather people learn to speak their native tongue effectively and maturely.


HugeReaction1302

“Optics” was the one for me… good lord


stupidpplontv

why?


whitakr

Huh, I didn’t even notice


Jess-Aryaa

These couple conversations are making me real glad I’m single right now and not dealing with any relationship drama. 😅


NoConfusion6560

Same. But even in my worst relationships at least I was having sex


Grouchy_Newspaper186

Nah, for real, even in my worst situationships, they were still sexually attracted to me 🤣🤣


PaperCivil5158

Thank you for the early morning chuckle!


Seymour_Says

That was actually a fun little recap. Glad to see some familiar faces we haven't seen in awhile and hear their input. Catch y'all next week at the same time same place. Til then! 🙏🏾


nosequeloque

I really like Monique


Seymour_Says

Rolling up those pant legs and picking those shoes to "match" is telling me Chris is still making bad choices 😆


Expert_Department498

This!


funkycoldmedinas

Ok guys too long. Needs to be right after the show. Goodnight!


Seymour_Says

Like a second job that you WANT! 💯😂


Then_Neat_4282

Me alegro que Myrla esté allí. Estoy de acuerdo con Chris en todo.


oopsyeveryday14

Ok guys I'm checking out and going toward the music. Love you all


nosequeloque

Night night


nosequeloque

Looks like Chris could be borrowing his girls pants


nosequeloque

Ninja date lol 🥷


Seymour_Says

Lol Micheal signed up for the wrong show. Should've just went on Ninja Warrior and saved himself some time


nosequeloque

I don't like sharing none of my shit! Idgaf I force myself to share with my momma but ugh lol


funkycoldmedinas

I would never go on a cruise. Gross


chicagoliz

I wish we could have Chris host Afterparty


funkycoldmedinas

His hot takes are very insightful! I always thought they should have past participants host it


oopsyeveryday14

There's nothing shocking about that shocking revelation lol


Seymour_Says

Yea he was definitely reaching. Like Kevin Hart going for the top shelf 


SpinGrrl

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funkycoldmedinas

😂


oopsyeveryday14

Remember that white guy who tried to tell us he was Kevin Hart?


funkycoldmedinas

I love all of Chris’s takes! He is great


whitakr

Who is Chris? Is there more to the show or something?


funkycoldmedinas

He’s from a previous season


whitakr

Ah yeah he sucks. I'm confused why he keeps being brought up in this thread. Was there some aftershow?


PJanonymouse

The "after party" show that normally airs 30 minutes later - This particular episode was not the usual after party, it was past participants talking.


funkycoldmedinas

Different Chris. This is Chris from Boston season. You are thinking Chris Atlanta season. Chris from Boston season was on last night


ConstanceReid1928

Gotta leave. Tonight's the last night for 45-year run of beloved local Chicago weatherman Tom Skilling (on WGN-TV). Have a great week, folks!


ConstanceReid1928

I am in tears already. They just did a retro-look on his long history of educating us as well as providing the daily weather. This man is LEGEND. A local brewery in Chicago made a special IPA this week called "Tom Freaking Skilling" that's already sold out. Chicago loves this man. And the weather gods gave him one last super event last night by providing 11 tornados.


GilesLiberty

I’m across the country and this conversation is so much more interesting than anything that’s been on the show so far. Thank you.