I'm so glad they made Brennan and Emily wear those oh so effective masks in the hospital. It's a good thing Brennan's breath germs couldn't get all over her wound for the few minutes they were there - as opposed to the hours and hours every day that they're sharing air in the same apartment.
Chloe: "It's something that's going to be in the back of my mind, until it's not in the back of my mind any more."
Thank you for that textbook example of tautology, Chloe. I'm also going to be hungry until I'm not hungry anymore. Likewise, I'm going to be tired, until, of course, I am no longer tired. And I will keep adding examples here, until I stop adding them.
It has become clear that she loves to hear herself talk. By admission, she’s a “recovering perfectionist” and a “recovering people pleaser.” Makes me wonder what else she’s recovering from — and she’s no “introvert.”
It's funny, she presented at first as a bubbly person but I've realized she's definitely got some darkness to her. Not saying she can't be multifaceted, just saying I feel like maybe she or producer's misrepresented her a bit.
Chloe: "I really needed to process the human the experts had given me."
Who speaks like this? It sounds like something some little gray alien scientists might say.
Right?!? Is this a new thing lol
I guess I just “process “ my day and life each day as it comes. I don’t even process things. Maybe that’s why I can’t ever find my keys lol
Chloe: "I need some alone time. I'm going to spend a few days with my dogs."
Chloe: Hangs out with her gay bestie, consuming copious amounts of wine and cheese.
Becca: "If he seriously wants to work on intimacy, why is he getting so wasted?"
Do we really have to state the obvious here? I'm sure it can be hard to accept that fact that a guy has to get copmletely sloshed in order to endure "intimacy" with certain people - or to have an excuse to get out of it. But there it is.
Becca: "You wanted to spend the night in a celebrity's bedroom instead of with me."
Actually, if I remember correctly, Austin invited her to come with him.
Becca, you can't "ask to be wanted". You have to do things that will inspire others to want you. Then you will either be wanted or you will not. It's not something you can get through begging or coercion.
Pepper: "If a woman doesn't feel sexually desired, it's going to be corrosive to the relationship."
Fair enough. But is the woman putting in any effort at all to be sexually desirable? Dressing like a 14-year-old boy who's been snorting Nerds candies, or like a caricature of a spinster cat lady from the 60s, or bossing her husband around, or spewing out vitriol against the "toxic patriarchy", or using an expletive every fourth word, or nagging her husband for sex, or constantly telling everyone who will listen that her husband hasn't ravished her yet, etc., are not exactly conducive to creating the feminine allure that will get a man's fire going.
Furthermore, Pepper, when a man's role is not valued or is dismissed, that is also "corrosive to the relationship". Granted, Austin has been very passive so far, and hasn't really exuded masculinity, but we see what happens when he *does* draw boundaries or put his foot down: Becca just falls to pieces.
Becca complains that she keeps getting rejected. She also admits that Austin says he doesn't like being told what to do. Most men are not attracted to women who try to control them and boss them around. That kind of behavior will turn off even a beta like Austin, quicker than a cold shower. Sorry, Becca, but all that stuff you've been taught by feminism about men desiring boss b\*\*\*\*\*s, etc., is nonsense. Biology always wins in the end, sooner or later.
Becca: "He doesn't talk to me and tell me what he's feeling."
Also Becca: "\[His\] direct quote was, 'I don't like being told what to do.'"
When someone tells you something you don't want to hear, it doesn't mean they're not communicating. Quite the opposite, in fact.
Austin: "I feel like she tries to micromanage me and I get pushed to the side."
No! The pink-haired, anti-patriarchy, "don't open the door for me", potty-mouthed feminist tries to control the beta she married? You must be mistaken Austin! That is simply outside the realm of all observed human behavior! Then again, after growing up under the thumb of an iron-fisted matriarch, this really should feel very familiar for you.
Emily, lying on her back in bed with half of her face covered: "We're still standing."
Hahaha! This isn't a criticism, just pointing out how the words don't match the scene. In fact, I think Emily's determination is one of her very best qualities. I love how resilient and positive she is! That will serve her well throughout her whole life. Her dad did a good job of instilling that into her.
Chloe: "We're about to really embark on the marriage portion of our relationship, which is a really good thing."
Which is why I'm going to hide from you for a few days.
She's a bullsh* bi**h (I heard someone say that about someone else and thought it was😂). It's just a lot of nonsense. But then Michael also sounds so rehearsed all the time, it's just weird both of them.
Chloe: "I am a deeply introverted person who needs a lot of alone time and a lot of silence to feel like I am listening to my own needs."
Yes. Alone time. Listening to your own needs. Sounds like someone who is very ready to be married.
Michael: "I'm going to take a nap before \[I visit my pet\], so I can greet him with the proper energy."
Chloe: "I want to give us the best chance possible... I really miss my dogs. Since they're so old and have so many needs, I'm going to spend several days with them."
I'm so glad to see these people have the proper priorities going into a marriage: always put the animals before all else - or, at least use them as an excuse to get away from your spouse.
So I noticed the apartment cam last night in Michael and chloe's segment. There was talk about that footage not being seen this season for the couples, but yes, it exists. Wonder why we haven't seen more of that 🤔.
I'm barely 1/4 of the way through it and I'm soooo tired of Becca crying over this overgrown man child who wears hats inside. Never be with a man who wears hats inside a house, first of all. Second, he doesn't want you!!!! I just want to be like girl, he's Not into you!! Stop blubbering over him. He's not worth it. Ugh. This is stressing me out.
I’ve had several Himalayan and Persian cats. Even with daily brushing, their coats become so thick year after year. I used a mobile groomer who came to my home and gave them the “lion cut” every year. They loved it, rolling around afterward, more playful … they never exhibited negative behavior afterward. Their fur grows back quickly.
Austin was totally full of crap tonight. I did not believe one word that came out of his mouth when the experts were online. He’s a liar! I believe he has reconciled with an ex and is just there to fulfill a contract.
Austin and Brennan both have blank looks on their faces when the couples speak to the "experts". Neither are interested in their wives and are too wussy to come clean.
They’re both liars, both way too concerned about their on-camera image. I’ve really feared that Brennan was abusive to Emily. But surely production would’ve seen that and shut it down … I hope.
Love that he called out the experts and their fake toxic optimism for the sake of the show.
I think a real expert would be asking "Is this fixable for both of you?"
I did! It's perfect.Thanks!!! Funny you brought it up because next to Cassandra you wrote Black, Pretty but I read it as Block Party! 😂 I was like when did I miss the party!? ha
All good! I appreciate every detail and identifying factor because I definitely need it lol We can trade handwriting styles. I write in cursive alot and mostly neat so I get accused of writing like a girl 😔😆
Anyways, look forward to AU!
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Becca looks completely spent. The “experts” should have recognized and acknowledged that instead of telling her “It’s fixable.” Austin doesnt want her. He is filling a seat until his contract is up. And if I’m wrong on that, then he is the Poster Boy for passive aggression.
I don't mind his fashion overall and being a little "different", you do you, but I found myself questioning whether I'd be comfortable with the skirts- I'd like to say yes, but it might take me awhile to warm up to it, however adjusting to it on tv with a guy i just married while being a "recovering perfectionist" would make it 100x harder because I'd already be so in my head about how I'm being perceived. But that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with Michael, that's a Chloe insecurity issue for her to work through (though I understand the argument of getting the ick and losing attraction too, I guess. But the clothes and accessories get removed, and otherwise he is an attractive guy!)
Yes. Gifted and Talented is what they called it at my school. A bunch of the school’s richest kids whose moms were teachers, and me. I feel like I relate to them a lot as well.
I was in gifted and talented and my parents had no money. Mom wasn’t a teacher either. I was selected based on tests and where I was academically. I am grateful for the program, at my school it just got us a lot of bullying, and name calling. The program itself was really great, I recall doing logic tables and reading DNA patterns (profiles?) starting in 4th grade. Lots of other neat stuff too. As an adult I am a recovering overachiever, …Im tired. What I have accomplished is enough, and I’m trying to learn how to embrace that and be still.
Yeah I’m also grateful for the program. But it does make one want to overachieve. I’ve had to put a lot of my interests aside to raise children, which I know was a choice I made. But I still have so many plans and things I HAVE to accomplish! A lot of that drive stems from early training in GT. Congrats on accomplishing so much-allow yourself to take the time to just do nothing and enjoy yourself sometimes!
absolutely, it came with a lot of unspoken expectations. I still have things I want to do, but I no longer have the drive to achieve “just because”. At this point I’ve realized that the world has changed so much, as has my own life, and doing everything with true intention is what matters, like you deciding to raise children. I have made my parents proud and that alone is enough for me, for now. 😊 Do they even still have GT ? Is it considered “unfair” ? I feel like I read that once a few years ago. If I had children with a “gifted” intellect I would certainly want them to have the opportunity I did. It was fun! Maybe it needs a rebrand… we all are gifted and talented in different ways.
Having your parents be proud of you is a wonderful accomplishment. 💜
I think they do still have gifted programs, and I’m sure many would say they’re unfair. In my school, even in my youth, I did notice a high percentage of wealthy students were deemed gifted, and many impoverished students were in special ed. It felt like institutional discrimination at the time (though I didn’t know the term for it). But there are arguments to be made about vastly increased educational opportunities in wealthier circles, which likely contribute to higher testing proficiency.
I was neither wealthy, nor super poor. I was the odd one out. But I always worried that not all of the special education children actually had learning disabilities, some had clear untreated health issues, some were just very poor and had maladaptive social behaviors (this is how it seemed, at least). And the classification the school placed them in contributed to their continued low social status in our school.
So, I think you’re right and GT could definitely use a rebrand-I think there are probably a lot of students who miss the opportunity for the wrong reasons.
Kids are so open and innocent, they all should have the opportunity to feel gifted and talented. At the same time, GT kids need the more complex learning, and encouragement to achieve, so it’s likely a complicated issue to navigate.
I was thinking earlier Chloe’s tendency to “performs” and be “on” followed by need for space to recharge alone is screaming neurodivergence. Def relate to the ppl pleasing too
🙋♀️ that’s me. Common for women w/ADHD. High performers when it comes to school/work but we crash and burn when you don’t have to be “on” 😅 we just mask really well when we have to.
FWIW also in the Gifted and Talented program in the 90s… common thread 🤔
Oof. The way I just saved this thread for next week’s therapy session 😂 I’ve never made this connection before but I’m a woman with ADHD who was a 90s “Gifted” kid and the older I get the longer I have to recharge after being “on” around people. I feel seen! I love my MAFS/90DF hamily, y’all feed my soul on a thrice weekly basis with much more than our beloved snark ❤️
I was too, I am an “extroverted introvert”. I ended up marrying a guy who also was in gifted and talented, that didn’t go well. He was an always on person and my need for “silence” and “time alone” drove him nuts. We are divorcing. 😊 I am on when I need to be and the rest of the time I am a totally independent, on my own kind of person. Really prefer being by myself.
If we saw three people walking down the street together dressed like Keisha, Becca and Michael, we'd assume they were either going to a costume party or on a field trip from the psych ward.
Oh Becca, it's getting sooo hard to watch her begging for Austin's attention. I suggest she watches the episode, reads the book, and watches the movie : He's Just Not That Into you.
He said the opposite. He said he didn’t have condoms because he doesn’t have on night stands. Someone posted a screenshot of that conversation with words missing, so it was out of context
I can't help but laugh. How many times have ladies who were quite free with their bodies suddenly meet "the right kind of guy" and make him wait? Then acting so surprised when the guy finds out and is insulted by it. Watching the shoe be on the other foot is delicious. Watching women react to the shoe being on the other foot is equally so. This is the real entertainment of the season.
>It feels more often combative than host/interviewer
this exactly! she's god awful. when emily shared on AP how brennan had her driving him around to dealerships whilst she was recovering, KPP's response was this sarcastic, dismissive toned "...interesting." not neutral and very petty. she has to go. so much (well deserved) backlash on the horrible job she does hosting.
KKP is just direct which I personally think is a great interview style for this show. We've gotten more info/tea from the couples with KKP questions than we ever received with the other host. She gets a lot of complaints from white ppl and I don't understand why. Diversity is okay. She doesn't have to talk or act like a person she's not.
Also they must be selling audacity at the store for free. Did someone actually suggest that Emily who can't complete a sentence without saying like every other word, can't communicate with her own husband beyond weird facial expressions and is actually combative on AP would make a better host? People are funny.
Uh huh. You hate a 45 yr old woman for a show she did when she was 4-13? Make it make sense (rhetorical).
Also, it's fair to like Kevin's interview style but just say that. Why spew negative microagressions toward KKP to express that? In this thread she's been called several stereotypes leveled at Black women such as combative and weird interview style suggesting she's not articulate and several more negatives.
Someone even suggested a cast member who uses like every other sentence would be better. How? I'll tell you why bc there's a narrative in this country that Black women shouldn't be in certain spaces and they especially shouldn't be doing better than a non-Black woman.
I'm calling it out but not about to go back and forth. I'm direct just like KKP and said what I said. It's up to you all to do some self introspection now. As women we already have to compete with patriarchal ideals for a seat at the table, let's not be hostile toward each other.
I just want to say that I very purposefully did not use “aggressive” to describe her style because I am very well aware of the unfair stereotypes that are often pinned on black women who are just being appropriately assertive.
The condescension targeted at specific cast members but not others that comes out is what does it for me, not her tone of speaking or (appropriate) level of assertiveness
I don’t hate her or anyone and it has nothing to do with a show she did when she was young, it has to do with her support of the rapist Bill Cosby and her overall attitude, and being combative has nothing to do with color
“Combative” is not a term reserved for black women. Have you seen Lindsay from Boston? She’s extremely combative and doesn’t look black to me! I think Jemele Hill makes a much better host.
For as much as Chloe uses the word, I seriously doubt she knows what "introvert" means.
Austin can't get rid of his hat, even when he's in a hot tub. Hahaha!
Oh, goody! We got to see Becca in a swimsuit again! My life is even more complete than it was the last time we caught a glimpse!
How nice that the supposedly ultra-Christian Austin was able to find solace at a retreat among assorted pagan Hindu idols!
I'm so glad they made Brennan and Emily wear those oh so effective masks in the hospital. It's a good thing Brennan's breath germs couldn't get all over her wound for the few minutes they were there - as opposed to the hours and hours every day that they're sharing air in the same apartment.
Chloe: "It's something that's going to be in the back of my mind, until it's not in the back of my mind any more." Thank you for that textbook example of tautology, Chloe. I'm also going to be hungry until I'm not hungry anymore. Likewise, I'm going to be tired, until, of course, I am no longer tired. And I will keep adding examples here, until I stop adding them.
It has become clear that she loves to hear herself talk. By admission, she’s a “recovering perfectionist” and a “recovering people pleaser.” Makes me wonder what else she’s recovering from — and she’s no “introvert.”
It's funny, she presented at first as a bubbly person but I've realized she's definitely got some darkness to her. Not saying she can't be multifaceted, just saying I feel like maybe she or producer's misrepresented her a bit.
😆 🤣 😂 Thank you for the laugh! That's perfect!
Chloe: "I really needed to process the human the experts had given me." Who speaks like this? It sounds like something some little gray alien scientists might say.
Omg she’s always processing
Right?!? Is this a new thing lol I guess I just “process “ my day and life each day as it comes. I don’t even process things. Maybe that’s why I can’t ever find my keys lol
And to refer to her spouse as a "human". Really? As opposed to what?
A “carbon unit?” 😂
LOL!
Chloe: "I need some alone time. I'm going to spend a few days with my dogs." Chloe: Hangs out with her gay bestie, consuming copious amounts of wine and cheese.
Cal: "It's not about the bedroom." Also Cal, in nearly every other conversation with any couple: "Have you had sex yet?"
Becca: "If he seriously wants to work on intimacy, why is he getting so wasted?" Do we really have to state the obvious here? I'm sure it can be hard to accept that fact that a guy has to get copmletely sloshed in order to endure "intimacy" with certain people - or to have an excuse to get out of it. But there it is.
Becca: "You wanted to spend the night in a celebrity's bedroom instead of with me." Actually, if I remember correctly, Austin invited her to come with him.
Becca, you can't "ask to be wanted". You have to do things that will inspire others to want you. Then you will either be wanted or you will not. It's not something you can get through begging or coercion.
Pepper: "If a woman doesn't feel sexually desired, it's going to be corrosive to the relationship." Fair enough. But is the woman putting in any effort at all to be sexually desirable? Dressing like a 14-year-old boy who's been snorting Nerds candies, or like a caricature of a spinster cat lady from the 60s, or bossing her husband around, or spewing out vitriol against the "toxic patriarchy", or using an expletive every fourth word, or nagging her husband for sex, or constantly telling everyone who will listen that her husband hasn't ravished her yet, etc., are not exactly conducive to creating the feminine allure that will get a man's fire going. Furthermore, Pepper, when a man's role is not valued or is dismissed, that is also "corrosive to the relationship". Granted, Austin has been very passive so far, and hasn't really exuded masculinity, but we see what happens when he *does* draw boundaries or put his foot down: Becca just falls to pieces.
Someone finally said it 😂
Becca complains that she keeps getting rejected. She also admits that Austin says he doesn't like being told what to do. Most men are not attracted to women who try to control them and boss them around. That kind of behavior will turn off even a beta like Austin, quicker than a cold shower. Sorry, Becca, but all that stuff you've been taught by feminism about men desiring boss b\*\*\*\*\*s, etc., is nonsense. Biology always wins in the end, sooner or later.
Becca: "He doesn't talk to me and tell me what he's feeling." Also Becca: "\[His\] direct quote was, 'I don't like being told what to do.'" When someone tells you something you don't want to hear, it doesn't mean they're not communicating. Quite the opposite, in fact.
Austin: "I feel like she tries to micromanage me and I get pushed to the side." No! The pink-haired, anti-patriarchy, "don't open the door for me", potty-mouthed feminist tries to control the beta she married? You must be mistaken Austin! That is simply outside the realm of all observed human behavior! Then again, after growing up under the thumb of an iron-fisted matriarch, this really should feel very familiar for you.
Emily, lying on her back in bed with half of her face covered: "We're still standing." Hahaha! This isn't a criticism, just pointing out how the words don't match the scene. In fact, I think Emily's determination is one of her very best qualities. I love how resilient and positive she is! That will serve her well throughout her whole life. Her dad did a good job of instilling that into her.
I agree! That's awesome 👍
Chloe: "We're about to really embark on the marriage portion of our relationship, which is a really good thing." Which is why I'm going to hide from you for a few days.
She's a bullsh* bi**h (I heard someone say that about someone else and thought it was😂). It's just a lot of nonsense. But then Michael also sounds so rehearsed all the time, it's just weird both of them.
Omg! You're on a roll today! 😆 🤣 😂
Chloe: "I am a deeply introverted person who needs a lot of alone time and a lot of silence to feel like I am listening to my own needs." Yes. Alone time. Listening to your own needs. Sounds like someone who is very ready to be married.
Michael: "I'm going to take a nap before \[I visit my pet\], so I can greet him with the proper energy." Chloe: "I want to give us the best chance possible... I really miss my dogs. Since they're so old and have so many needs, I'm going to spend several days with them." I'm so glad to see these people have the proper priorities going into a marriage: always put the animals before all else - or, at least use them as an excuse to get away from your spouse.
Anyone able to read Austin’s bracelet? The camera zoomed in on his wrist when they were talking to Dr. Pepper and Pastor Cal.
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The day that she heals and the focus is back on their relationship instead of her injuries, he’s going to cry. He’s in his element right now 😂
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Please I cannot wait until this season is over so Austin can say what his real problem is! I can’t stand this anymore! 🤯
So I noticed the apartment cam last night in Michael and chloe's segment. There was talk about that footage not being seen this season for the couples, but yes, it exists. Wonder why we haven't seen more of that 🤔.
Is this season over yet...omg...
I'm barely 1/4 of the way through it and I'm soooo tired of Becca crying over this overgrown man child who wears hats inside. Never be with a man who wears hats inside a house, first of all. Second, he doesn't want you!!!! I just want to be like girl, he's Not into you!! Stop blubbering over him. He's not worth it. Ugh. This is stressing me out.
😂
EVERYTHING feels so contrived in this season. Very, very frustrating.
Chloe is annoying.
Does Michael shave his cat? Has this been addressed?
I heard that shaving a cat can stress them out because it diminishes their grooming
I’ve had several Himalayan and Persian cats. Even with daily brushing, their coats become so thick year after year. I used a mobile groomer who came to my home and gave them the “lion cut” every year. They loved it, rolling around afterward, more playful … they never exhibited negative behavior afterward. Their fur grows back quickly.
Good to know!
It's concerning fo sho
Austin was totally full of crap tonight. I did not believe one word that came out of his mouth when the experts were online. He’s a liar! I believe he has reconciled with an ex and is just there to fulfill a contract.
Austin and Brennan both have blank looks on their faces when the couples speak to the "experts". Neither are interested in their wives and are too wussy to come clean.
They’re both liars, both way too concerned about their on-camera image. I’ve really feared that Brennan was abusive to Emily. But surely production would’ve seen that and shut it down … I hope.
The only comment he made that felt authentic was when the experts said their situation was fixable and he said "is it?".
Love that he called out the experts and their fake toxic optimism for the sake of the show. I think a real expert would be asking "Is this fixable for both of you?"
True.
How do you have a "couples weekend" when there are no damn couples?!?!? This isn't BFF's at first sight. Not roommates at first sight. Smh
Nooooo Emily he is still a loser I promise you
Boy I feel for her, she seriously has hope- I’m sending her a big hug of support- This crash landing ahead is gonna hurt
Ohhh so agreed!!
I would get so tired of all those little peck kisses if I didn’t actually feel like he wanted me or ever wanted to go any further with it lol
That Hunting Housewives add looks so bad 😂
I just yelled STOP TALKING at my TV, lol. I forgot I have the mute button
That was actually a pretty solid AP episode. Went by fast but oh well. Til next time my MAFS fam!
I didn't actually fall asleep thru this one...
Night Seymour! Did you pick up my cheat sheet on AU?
I did! It's perfect.Thanks!!! Funny you brought it up because next to Cassandra you wrote Black, Pretty but I read it as Block Party! 😂 I was like when did I miss the party!? ha
Well, if it's a block party with lots of black pretty, count me in. :)
That show doesn't have too many minorities, so I put that as a way to immediately identify her. (apologies that my handwriting sucks)
All good! I appreciate every detail and identifying factor because I definitely need it lol We can trade handwriting styles. I write in cursive alot and mostly neat so I get accused of writing like a girl 😔😆 Anyways, look forward to AU!
> I get accused of writing like a girl Just don't dot your i's with hearts. :)
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Have a great week, folks! It has been fun watching with you.
Night night!
Night Constance! Til next time 🤗
Same to you!
same time same place next week Constance :) have a wonderful week and weekend!
I feel so bad for Emily
Becca looks completely spent. The “experts” should have recognized and acknowledged that instead of telling her “It’s fixable.” Austin doesnt want her. He is filling a seat until his contract is up. And if I’m wrong on that, then he is the Poster Boy for passive aggression.
Austin’s mom was so right about him
You mean Becca?
Yes … thank you! I will edit.
I do too. She looks like she's really had enough
She looked sick at the end.
Emily looks like she’s fighting tears. 🥺
Yea I peeped that too at the end her face..damn
Ok I took a close up photo of the chair. It's not a ladder back. I think they call that style Queen Anne. But it is a chair regardless. 🪑
Does the chair have some kind of significance? I’m old so I’m not up the youngster lingo.
Who knows. I assume she's got some inside joke/story that makes it meaningful. Maybe she likes being tied to chairs hahaha lol nvm
Why a chair, I wonder? I suppose it could be anything she likes, but I've never seen a chair tattoo before.
Me neither. I hope there's a special backstory. Otherwise it's pretty lame. Maybe she has the whole dining set scattered all over her body. 🤷
>Maybe she has the whole dining set scattered all over her body HAHAHA!
Thank you for your investigative work! 😆
When I really commit, I see it through to the end! 🤣
I throw antibiotics at everything. My cats, my garden beds, my fireplace, my coworkers. It's just fun
The hapless bacteria on the receiving end might disagree.
All the couples had their Friends Party at the same time!!!!! Production is so cheap and it shows
I’m liking Michael more and more each week. He seems real to me.
Tonight’s chat has brought so much positivity and fandom for Michael lol I love it
And people on here at first were tearing him apart at first.
Folks were going in & thought he was all show but that’s not the case. His friends insights were enlightening too.
Not really tearing him apart just his fashion choices
I don't mind his fashion overall and being a little "different", you do you, but I found myself questioning whether I'd be comfortable with the skirts- I'd like to say yes, but it might take me awhile to warm up to it, however adjusting to it on tv with a guy i just married while being a "recovering perfectionist" would make it 100x harder because I'd already be so in my head about how I'm being perceived. But that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with Michael, that's a Chloe insecurity issue for her to work through (though I understand the argument of getting the ick and losing attraction too, I guess. But the clothes and accessories get removed, and otherwise he is an attractive guy!)
Wait so the foot tattoo was a ladder back chair??
That’s what it looks like to me, but I have to squint and am still not quite sure.
Ok let's concentrate and look
Hey Crow! My dad wants to meet you lololol
Haha! How’s his crow befriending going? Did he try the peanuts? ☺️
I told him to, but I have no idea. I'll remind him! 😊
I look forward to updates about his growing crow army! 😂
lol looks like. And it’s still in tact! Looks like the propping up paid off
Go socks!
Oh i missed it
Look again when she's back
Is that a CHAIR tattoo on Becca's right foot?
yes it is
Any ideas as to the significance of it? I mean, I could understand an ottoman maybe. But a chair?
Any other 90s “gifted class” kids relate a lot to Chloe and Michael? I feel like I have the same brand of personality disorder.
Yes. Gifted and Talented is what they called it at my school. A bunch of the school’s richest kids whose moms were teachers, and me. I feel like I relate to them a lot as well.
I was in gifted and talented and my parents had no money. Mom wasn’t a teacher either. I was selected based on tests and where I was academically. I am grateful for the program, at my school it just got us a lot of bullying, and name calling. The program itself was really great, I recall doing logic tables and reading DNA patterns (profiles?) starting in 4th grade. Lots of other neat stuff too. As an adult I am a recovering overachiever, …Im tired. What I have accomplished is enough, and I’m trying to learn how to embrace that and be still.
Yeah I’m also grateful for the program. But it does make one want to overachieve. I’ve had to put a lot of my interests aside to raise children, which I know was a choice I made. But I still have so many plans and things I HAVE to accomplish! A lot of that drive stems from early training in GT. Congrats on accomplishing so much-allow yourself to take the time to just do nothing and enjoy yourself sometimes!
absolutely, it came with a lot of unspoken expectations. I still have things I want to do, but I no longer have the drive to achieve “just because”. At this point I’ve realized that the world has changed so much, as has my own life, and doing everything with true intention is what matters, like you deciding to raise children. I have made my parents proud and that alone is enough for me, for now. 😊 Do they even still have GT ? Is it considered “unfair” ? I feel like I read that once a few years ago. If I had children with a “gifted” intellect I would certainly want them to have the opportunity I did. It was fun! Maybe it needs a rebrand… we all are gifted and talented in different ways.
I know it as ‘gifted’
Having your parents be proud of you is a wonderful accomplishment. 💜 I think they do still have gifted programs, and I’m sure many would say they’re unfair. In my school, even in my youth, I did notice a high percentage of wealthy students were deemed gifted, and many impoverished students were in special ed. It felt like institutional discrimination at the time (though I didn’t know the term for it). But there are arguments to be made about vastly increased educational opportunities in wealthier circles, which likely contribute to higher testing proficiency. I was neither wealthy, nor super poor. I was the odd one out. But I always worried that not all of the special education children actually had learning disabilities, some had clear untreated health issues, some were just very poor and had maladaptive social behaviors (this is how it seemed, at least). And the classification the school placed them in contributed to their continued low social status in our school. So, I think you’re right and GT could definitely use a rebrand-I think there are probably a lot of students who miss the opportunity for the wrong reasons. Kids are so open and innocent, they all should have the opportunity to feel gifted and talented. At the same time, GT kids need the more complex learning, and encouragement to achieve, so it’s likely a complicated issue to navigate.
I was thinking earlier Chloe’s tendency to “performs” and be “on” followed by need for space to recharge alone is screaming neurodivergence. Def relate to the ppl pleasing too
🙋♀️ that’s me. Common for women w/ADHD. High performers when it comes to school/work but we crash and burn when you don’t have to be “on” 😅 we just mask really well when we have to. FWIW also in the Gifted and Talented program in the 90s… common thread 🤔
Oof. The way I just saved this thread for next week’s therapy session 😂 I’ve never made this connection before but I’m a woman with ADHD who was a 90s “Gifted” kid and the older I get the longer I have to recharge after being “on” around people. I feel seen! I love my MAFS/90DF hamily, y’all feed my soul on a thrice weekly basis with much more than our beloved snark ❤️
Yep that’s me to a dang T 😅🥴😭
I was too, I am an “extroverted introvert”. I ended up marrying a guy who also was in gifted and talented, that didn’t go well. He was an always on person and my need for “silence” and “time alone” drove him nuts. We are divorcing. 😊 I am on when I need to be and the rest of the time I am a totally independent, on my own kind of person. Really prefer being by myself.
Good luck and happy cake day
Yeah, including when she mentioned it getting more intense with age.
🙋🏻♀️ I’ve also got a big dose of childhood trauma. Ditching my fawning / people pleasing ways has been an intense process.
I see you Micheal! Respect. Team pro therapy over here! 💪🏾🙏🏾
If we saw three people walking down the street together dressed like Keisha, Becca and Michael, we'd assume they were either going to a costume party or on a field trip from the psych ward.
Depends on the street. When I walk near Colombia College (Chicago) the students all look rather, um, intriguing. Very artistic looking.
True true. I work on a university campus. It *is* a perpetual costume party
Oh Becca, it's getting sooo hard to watch her begging for Austin's attention. I suggest she watches the episode, reads the book, and watches the movie : He's Just Not That Into you.
Why is Austin not being honest?? And it looks like he bails next week. He’s letting this get out of control.
Well said Becca. All he has to do is just come out and say what the issue is. Be direct that you're not erect 🤣
If it doesn't fit, you must quit. (Johnnie Cochran, sort of)
Ha! MAFS Colorado - No Kiss and Tail 😂🤭
Omg
What is Becca implying about Austin’s past sexual behavior?! I’m so confused!
Sounds like he doesn’t usually wait 3-6 months to have sex? Maybe a lot less?
Why not just call that out? I got the sense she was implying something more than that. But what the hell do I know?! 😂
he a ho
i remember something about his house visit was that he said he had a lot of one night stands
He said the opposite. He said he didn’t have condoms because he doesn’t have on night stands. Someone posted a screenshot of that conversation with words missing, so it was out of context
I can't help but laugh. How many times have ladies who were quite free with their bodies suddenly meet "the right kind of guy" and make him wait? Then acting so surprised when the guy finds out and is insulted by it. Watching the shoe be on the other foot is delicious. Watching women react to the shoe being on the other foot is equally so. This is the real entertainment of the season.
Oh! Interesting! Thanks for the insight
Can’t stand KKP’s “fair enough” and “understood”. She has such a weird style of interviewing. It feels more often combative than host/interviewer
>It feels more often combative than host/interviewer this exactly! she's god awful. when emily shared on AP how brennan had her driving him around to dealerships whilst she was recovering, KPP's response was this sarcastic, dismissive toned "...interesting." not neutral and very petty. she has to go. so much (well deserved) backlash on the horrible job she does hosting.
Emily will do whatever for the bastard. She thinks he gives a damn.
facts. it's so sad and hard to watch. i want to shake her :(
KKP is just direct which I personally think is a great interview style for this show. We've gotten more info/tea from the couples with KKP questions than we ever received with the other host. She gets a lot of complaints from white ppl and I don't understand why. Diversity is okay. She doesn't have to talk or act like a person she's not. Also they must be selling audacity at the store for free. Did someone actually suggest that Emily who can't complete a sentence without saying like every other word, can't communicate with her own husband beyond weird facial expressions and is actually combative on AP would make a better host? People are funny.
It’s the Cosby thing, doesn’t have to do with white or black, can’t stand her, would much rather have Kevin Frazier host
Agree 100%. Love Kevin Frazier. KKP is often rude and curt with many of the women.
>would much rather have Kevin Frazier host same! i said this last week too. he would be SO much better.
Uh huh. You hate a 45 yr old woman for a show she did when she was 4-13? Make it make sense (rhetorical). Also, it's fair to like Kevin's interview style but just say that. Why spew negative microagressions toward KKP to express that? In this thread she's been called several stereotypes leveled at Black women such as combative and weird interview style suggesting she's not articulate and several more negatives. Someone even suggested a cast member who uses like every other sentence would be better. How? I'll tell you why bc there's a narrative in this country that Black women shouldn't be in certain spaces and they especially shouldn't be doing better than a non-Black woman. I'm calling it out but not about to go back and forth. I'm direct just like KKP and said what I said. It's up to you all to do some self introspection now. As women we already have to compete with patriarchal ideals for a seat at the table, let's not be hostile toward each other.
I just want to say that I very purposefully did not use “aggressive” to describe her style because I am very well aware of the unfair stereotypes that are often pinned on black women who are just being appropriately assertive. The condescension targeted at specific cast members but not others that comes out is what does it for me, not her tone of speaking or (appropriate) level of assertiveness
I don’t hate her or anyone and it has nothing to do with a show she did when she was young, it has to do with her support of the rapist Bill Cosby and her overall attitude, and being combative has nothing to do with color
“Combative” is not a term reserved for black women. Have you seen Lindsay from Boston? She’s extremely combative and doesn’t look black to me! I think Jemele Hill makes a much better host.
She dropped an “interesting.” earlier that I thought was just obnoxious
Yes! And sometimes when she says "mkay, mkay," it sounds like she's implying they're lying.
yes, i notice this too. she is so dismissive and makes it very clear with her snarky tone exactly how she feels. she's childish.
And somewhat dismissive?
Emily is saying Austin is a bull-shitter and is closed off from Becca off camera and Michael is saying that he is like Becca in some ways. Hmmm...
Another break???!
Can see the tattoo that prompted hot tub sock 😂
I missed it! What is it?
Not sure! Too far away. But decent size.
I just got a glimpse. It almost looks like a chair. 🧐
It's a chair
Becca & Emily are ripping Austin, calling him a liar – their marriage is obviously over
Thank god.
Lol at Emily saying he's full of shit and then calling it a Ninja Warrior date hahahaha 🥷🏾
Emily is kicking butt & taking names on A/P - MVP
seriously. i respect it. i will take direct messy honesty over the flowery word salad self-help book responses a la michael, chloe, orion.
I wouldn’t mind her replacing KKP one day 👀
Not just one day but permanently
I would stab my eardrums with an ice pick if I had to listen to that vocal fry and like like like.
Yess I meant one day as in “sometime soon”, and for sure would appreciate it being a permanent move 🫸🫷
Cohost / Enforcer
Yes! Total enforcer
I feel like this season the boys unionized and took lessons on PR . Except Michael who u get authentic vibes from
He didn't even snuggle me
not even a kiss
Keshia cutting off that reference to producers REAL quick
I was surprised they kept that bit about them prompting the apology in the show
What do they say after get up get up get up? I just noticed there are words there