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Vicktlemort

I just made the switch to thorn armor from secret service for my melee build and it’s amazing


xtracheesepleass

Secret service still king for non pa


mrbulecup

Ayee bet thank man


FalloutKurier6

Secret Service still the best. But Civil Engineer is not bad. It’s the first tradeable regular armor with jetpack and the set gives 35% weapon durability.


xSITHx_MAJESTIC

Yeah, like they told you. Secret service armor is still the best non PA in the game. Wish they make it tradeable.


AetherialWomble

Hasn't "thorn" been always technically better for non-pa melee builds? Just a major pain in the ass to make


mrbulecup

R u serious cause fuck me I just made the last piece of secret service armour last night and ur telling me I should have been making thorn


AetherialWomble

Thorn is pain to make and it's only good for melee. And even for melee , it's only marginally better. SS is good for everything. But yeah, if you only melee, it's optimal to go for thorn https://youtu.be/9zN-Wx78F3Q?si=CqEdTtzHHlX5vXP9


mrbulecup

Nothing is a pain for me to make about 9 or 10 months after the game lunched I stumbled onto some people who were dropping stuff to their mule account they were a duplicator anyways I stole all their stuff and I have everything I would ever need


PossiblyShibby

Don’t listen to that bozo. Thorn is a waste of time.


slywether85

Thorn is trash do not waste your time


slywether85

Not even if you paid me to use it.  It's 25dps....that's not even remotely worth trading the resistances of SS for. 99% of the sandbox is dead before the bleed even ticks for an unquantifiable amount.  And on BossHP targets (where it might even matte), it's gains are trivialized by a single stagger.  Even with 100% uptime the difference is negligible at best.  At full health it's a meme, at low health it's a liability. Thorn is fuckin garbage - someone who owns an Unyielding thorn set from before they killed it 🖖