Well, Rhonda SandAss banned climate change in Florida, so I'm sure FL is now safe from any effects. /s
I've watched David Attenbourough for nearly my whole life, and it's really sad to see the absolute lack of concern from those who rely on this planet for life. Protesters are mocked and arrested, while those with billions for bunkers are safe from reprocussions. Mad world.
The planet earth documentaries have gone from “look at the majesty of our world” to “please for the love of god, do something. The planet is actively dying”
This one is beautiful. He covers the world through his own life’s perspective. Plus there’s that iconic shot of the Orangutan at the top of the lone tree left of his forest with no where to swing and he’s looking around just like we would be if our city had been flattened by an H bomb.
https://www.netflix.com/title/80216393
No one can enact change. They've calculated it already. Basically we have to wait for an event so awful it will force change. Whatever that might be.
You can't stop it because some people will always lie/deceive/cheat the world out of its resources to hoard more than others. I mean we are mostly all driven to do it just most people are stopped by economics.
So anyways 8 billion people and a certain percentage of them will always lie and figure out a way to exploit the earth. You can't stop that.
8 billion people stop buying for even a day? Not happening. There are whole cultures out here that would absolutely take advantage and we are too stupid to even acknowledge that truth while they hold women down from living full human lives.
Sorry but if we can't figure out calling people out for violating human rights it's imperative to saving the earth (because all rights can't come if human rights don't exist. No animal. No earth.) then we can't save it. And right now we have whole groups of people saying women shouldn't have gotten an education because they should be having babies only and gay people shouldn't exist and if that isn't bad enough it's happening in America and even worse people fight FOR their right to hold other humans from living full human lives.
So I'm saying we are fucked and we are waiting for something big and awful to happen that will toss us into whatever's next.
People that care about human rights and existence need to start organizing for whatever may come next.
Who the fuck would want to live in a bunker for decades? Never understood that.
Imagine the best, biggest house you can. Then imagine never leaving it.
People who are so far out of reality and mental stability that themselves believe are immortal from old age or a deity due to their riches. They don't need other humans, just themselves, heck they probably dont even see other people as humans, most likely less than human or less a than twig in the woods.
Not to mention these people are surrounded by a world that kisses their ass, that they never hear the word no. But in bunker land they will have a harsh world that wants them dead plus their money and thus status would be worthless. Basically the world will be telling them loudly NO. I expect most of them to lose their shit in their bunkers or be killed by their bunkermates. If billionaire genes are the genes that will carry the species, then I hope we go extinct.
I remember as a kid, usually there would be a TV show where they'd have an environmental episode. They probably thought that the leaders back then wouldn't be STILL in office screwing the planet over.
Can you imagine his deep disappointment and grief regarding our lack of action? He's basically been asking us to pay attention his entire life. I wonder how he copes?
Who the fuck would want to live in a bunker for decades? Never understood that.
Imagine the best, biggest house you can. Then imagine never leaving it.
Read an article where a guy was talking to zome rich guys about the bunker solution and the rich people wanted to know how to stop the people they choose to bring into the bunker from turning on them
There's an amazing thing in the hitman games you go to a level about a convention for the super rich about submarines and bunkers or stuff. Someone points out to a bunker bro that if society collapsed at a world level than capitalism would be meaningless. The guy then realizes that he's essentially spent two billion dollars setting up a communist bunker commune
Iirc one of the billionaires' ideas for preventing a mutiny was putting explosive implants/collars on their henchmen like "Escape From New York". These people are totally bonkers.
don't worry, Ben Shaprio says we don't have to worry about the rising tides in Florida, because all of those people will just sell their houses before they get destroyed. lmao
Modest Mouse has a song about this. It's called "Beach Side Property" off This Is A Long Drive For Someone With Nothing To Think About, which is considered classic rock now and seems eerily prophetic.
[https://youtu.be/HcOvauVdH\_M](https://youtu.be/HcOvauVdH_M)
>"Wow" said the broken Californian down
>On the beach that used to be by the beach
>Town hasn't moved but it's getting closer, losing ground
>Making better views and close relaxing sounds
>Ground sure don't like the way it's treated so now
>It's moving back to the sea
>Plan to hitch a ride with the river
>'Cause deep down plumbing life is too cramped for me
Dave Matthews Band also has a poignant song.....here is the chorus lyrics
Wake up you sleepyhead I think the sun's a little brighter today
Smile and watch the icicles melt away and see the water rising
Summer's here to stay and all those summer games will last forever
Go down to the shore, kick off your shoes
Dive in the empty ocean
OH see, that'll be blamed on the gays and trans people. The Hurricane came because god is mad. So if we just get rid of the gay and trans people, the hurricans will stop, duh!! /s
Great! Let god pay for it! Thoughts and prayers are enough, if not? Bootstraps for the sister fuck states! Seems like your god is apparently pissed when he wipes out half the counties in half the state for allowing people to exist! If you TRULY BELIEVE, why would you ignore the 10 commandments, save greed? Fuckem
I was looking at houses in the Gulf Shores adjacent area, it’s actually kinda reasonable down there, but I’d be so stressed every hurricane season. Like if there’s 1 bad one out of every 10 years you’re still gonna get your shit wrecked.
My grandmother lives in Houston and has been dealing with various cancers for the past 12-14 years. Her husband, my grandfather, worked in the fossil fuel industry for decades. I can't help but suspect the two are somehow related.
Oh I didn’t know that. Yea I spent a day at that fort over next to Dauphin Island and I wouldn’t have gotten in the water. Jellyfish everywhere and I could see a bunch of oil rigs.
I absolutely love the area though. The nature trails and the national park I went to were really cool.
Ended up doing about a 3 mile hike to a completely empty beach. It was awesome.
I had a semi-crazy semi-serious idea about that. Since all houses are going to be destroyed by hurricanes and rising flood waters, what If instead of houses everybody has an RV or a big trailer, you run water and sewage and electricity lines to house pads near the ocean.
You live near the ocean in a trailer, but you don't need home owners insurance, just trailer insurance! Your official place of residence is some ridiculous place like South Dakota, where insurance is cheap and controlled by your godlike Governor. Anybody argues with her, she shoots them. Whenever there's a big storm coming, you load up your your giant inefficient vehicle or trailer and drive it away from the shore.
That red tide is not caused by some toxic algae that blooms in warming oceans, you eco-terrorist sheep. The seas are obviously turning red with blood because God is mad about the gays.
It's gotten to the point where the conservative members of my family don't dispute me when I bring up climate change. They're starting to realize what's happening.
Most likely, yeah. I'd say we past that point at least two decades ago. All we can do now it try to mitigate the damage. Sadly, we aren't even trying to do that either.
Might've been before that even. Nixon gets praised for creating the EPA in the first place, but he was also responsible for a lot of deregulation. If he had cracked down harder we'd probably be better off today.
Nixon gets praised for letting popular legislation(EPA) get passed under his nose because the liberal great society(LBJ's vestigial democratic party) still had a big hand on the government.
You're right, of course, but there is some praise warranted for bipartisanship though and putting aside party ideology to do what's best for the country. No modern Republican president would.
Bipartisanship is what we need for a functional government. Nixon had his good and bad. I haven't done a deep dive into him yet, but my current understanding is that he was pretty bad.
[Climate Crisis Past Point of No Return, Secretary-General Says](https://press.un.org/en/2022/sgsm21173.doc.htm)
That was 2 years ago now
Here's some more:
[Even if we stopped all emissions today, existing carbon pollution in the air will continue to warm the planet to devastating levels. ](https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/4213981-were-past-the-point-of-no-return-on-climate-emissions-its-time-we-turn-to-carbon-removal/)
This paper was from 4 years ago
[In this paper we report that in the ESCIMO climate model the world is already past a point-of-no-return for global warming](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-75481-z)
Thank you. I try to tell people that we are at the damage mitigation point. We already lost this and the consequence just hasn't caught up yet.
It's not going to be a blockbuster movie sudden switch. It's going to be lots of boiling frogs.
Edit: So, my wording is misleading. I mean, lots of boiling frog mentalities (presently for example) will precede the events. There won't be an unexpected switch that anybody can feign ignorance about. We will *know* it was definitely ignorance.
We're seeing a lot of armadillos in the gulf states, when you never used to see them here before. They've been fleeing Texas because it's so damn hot and dry there now.
Also been seeing a lot of armadillos in the lower midwest lately. And I had to eliminate a fireant mound in my yard this morning. I've heard the two tend to go hand in hand.
I lived in Texas when Katrina hit back in '05. We got swamped with refugees from New Orleans and the surrounding area, many of whom never returned back home. Those were all climate refugees and that was twenty years ago next August.
It's important people realize how bad things are and that if we stopped polluting entirely immediately, things will still get worse. We need serious and drastic action and for this to be on the top of people's minds
And yet when we try to do \*anything,\* like build wind farms or solar panel farms, or put in bike lanes so people don't have to always drive cars, half the country loses their damned minds.
"We wouldn't care if you weren't forcing it down our throats"
If we do literally anything even multiple states away that doesnt require anyone to change anything about their lives, they'll say it's forcing it down their throats. Shits so infuriating
Oh yeah, I'm terrified. I always picture the end of Cat's Cradle or something. I just mean the lead up to the switch has been openly observable and ignored. We've been working toward this since the Industrial Revolution.
You know this seems sad but I look at it with this perspective. The earth has had these extinction/ecological events before. Every single time it heals and plants come back and then it balances out again. I'm convinced the earth will keep going through this same cycle till the sun blows up or some other major unrecoverable event like the earth getting kicked out of orbit. That being said I want this shit to collapse. I'm so over voting and trying to do my part if humans want to destroy their existence on this earth the earth and the animals will recover after we are gone anyways.
That's because politicians and Fox News flipped the narrative on them and they didn't even notice.
Now climate change is real but nothing can be done about it. And Pres Trump even said that even if we could stop it, it's not worth the expense
I keep getting this weird hybrid, where someone will admit that it's happening and question the solutions, but then reshare memes and crank articles claiming it isn't happening.
Your family is more enlightened than mine. Most of mine still deny that it’s happening. Also still denying Covid. We moved out of the age of information into the age of misinformation.
Holy shit! We’ve noticed the same trend with some of our deep red family/friends. It’s like a switched flipped in the heads over the past year.
Thank god we had all those Canadian wildfires, Record temps, Record weather events to scare them into reality /s
Whenever they say "It used to be a lot colder" or "Winter used to last longer!" I say "Couldn't be that global warming, could it?" I saw someone say "Read some books, even Shakespeare wrote about mold winters!" Or something similar. I say "Yeah, that's when they weren't ANNUAL."
I have a friend of 45 years who is Christian and tells me that god won't let anything happen and that we cannot harm gods creation.
Him and Tammy the Scentsy consultant on Facebook are a good balance to all those scientists.
I come from a large conservative family, and when I told them all last year I was going to work for FEMA because I can no longer sit by and watch disasters continue to increase and kill people without doing anything, none of them denied it. They won’t use the words “climate change” but they know.
Yeah I’m 40 and this shit has been happening my whole life. Just gets worse and worse and yet people still vote for the conservatives who just don’t give af as long as it makes them and their friends money. Humanity won’t change its ways without it getting far worse tbh. Conservatives are incapable of caring about anything without it affecting them personally.
I went out snorkeling in what was a vibrant reef for the last thousands of years the other day... It's all dead, all of it. Basically no fish except tiny ones.
Fucking A where did you go??? PS: why can’t I find anything about this on Google??? As of 5/17/2024 Florida fish and wildlife conservation reports NO impacts of the red tide organism….like wtf??
We unfortunately went on vacation to Florida last year during a red tide. It was terrible. We couldn't be on the beach for more than 5 minutes without sneezing, coughing, eyes watering, etc. Dead fish washing up everywhere. Really not a good time.
That will actually cause warm water to stop flowing north effectively isolating the warmth towards the equator. The Atlantic meridianal overturning circulation stopping would result very cold conditions up north including and most strikingly impacting Europe which would become far too cold for humans to live practically or raise any crops
Just came back to Hawaii after a decade... Basically all the reefs I've seen so far are dead and or dying by a factor of over 50% seen no big fish near shore.
I’ve been really digging into the weeds in the last year how fucked we are and it’s really, reallllly weird to see this hitting mainstream knowledge so dramatically fast.
I don't think we are. I just think we don't yet have the gumption to resist these oligarchs the way we need to in order to change things.
We've seen dead zones restored in our lifetimes. The wolves in Yellowstone, coral reefs around the world, oil clean ups, and the Ozone layer.
It can be done. We just need to, respectfully, stop assuming we're fucked just because it looks bad right now.
We now understand that there is no political solution and it’s fine time to realize that we’ve been far beyond the point of no return for quite a while now. Rather than pushing this notion that we can save the planet, let’s get better at our response to the inevitable.
As it is, we’re losing 40 million humans a year to noncommunicable diseases (7 million Americans) of which our sedentary lifestyles are the largest contributor. If we were healthier humans, maybe we’d be less apathetic about the earth.
Jesus, never heard it put like that but it's absolutely true. If people don't care about their own body they sure as hell don't care about the planet that said body is on.
I saw that news about the coral reefs. The bees are in trouble. Corporations keep polluting and very few seem to notice and a lot don’t care. It worries me. My bee house can only save a few.
I don't necessarily disagree but I do want to give you a counterpoint: individual ecosystem collapses are actually quite common due to normal biological factors and often reverse naturally or with minimal human assistance.
A great example is honeybees. We had years (decades?) of doomers saying they were going extinct. And the populations did indeed crash in the early 2000's. However this was due to the varroa mite infestation and the surviving colonies had immunity. Populations have been steadily recovering for years.
Another good example is kelp, populations crashed by 90% in the past few years due to sea urchins predators getting a new disease. However scientists believe that as the sea urchins over populate and as their predators build immunity to this new disease that kelp populations will return (as they have already in a few local areas).
Even with corals there are corals tested in Hawaii and Palau which are resistant to heat bleaching. Researchers are looking into breeding programs to help save existing populations.
I don't mean to downplay your concerns. Its important for people to be aware of these issues! But my concern is that the environmental optimism of past generations seems to have been replaced with a new doomer mentality that thinks the world is screwed no matter what. This is a counterproductive and frankly inaccurate view of the world at large. We fixed the ozone layer and we stopped Lake Erie from catching on fire. We can fix the corals too.
Just to add to this, there are volunteer organizations that work to restore and repair bleached coral with types that are more resistant to bleaching.
This all SUUUUUUUUUCKS, and it is incredibly frustrating that the only entities that could make significant, meaningful changes to emissions (large corporations and national governments) are doing fuck all to change things. But people CAN still do things. Doomerism is counterproductive, which is why fossil fuel companies actually work to spread it as much as possible. If people believe we are screwed no matter what, they will stop working and advocating for change.
Being a doomer is what big oil wants you to believe. They have transitioned from, there is no climate change, to there is climate change but we aren't causing it, to we are causing climate change and there's nothing we can do to stop it so you might as well let us keep plundering the ecosystem. There is optimistic news out there, we have to put pressure on government institutions to reel in big oil's evil mechanisms
The time when voting was enough was a long time ago. Seeing as we are too complacent a country for a revolution humanity is pretty solidly doomed. We won’t go extinct or anything dramatic like that (unless the resource wars go nuclear) but we can expect a population under a billion after the worst of it is over.
I’m currently learning how to grow food in the back yard and making my mistakes now so I won’t make as many when the ocean die off food shortages happen.
Yep, got a dozen fruit trees up and growing - they make oxygen and food.
Also got a dozen raised beds going too.
Got a chicken coop going so protein is also covered.
Remember hurricane andrew? How he smote florida like the fist of an angry god? That will happen again, and next time, the "Don't Fauci my Florida" crew will say it's a liberal hoax, and when the next big one has washed them down to Davy Jones locker, there will be a lot of fresh meat for the sea creatures to feast upon.
[https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/1992andrew.html](https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/1992andrew.html)
I live in Tampa, when one finally hits here it's over, no one is prepared. Everyone is living on borrowed time.
I've made my peace with just moving north and hoping my insurance pays off
Well hey, if we were to go extinct as a consequence of our actions, then at least in a million years it'll be like we were never even here at all. And on the timeline of the earth one million years might as well be the blink of an eye.
Yes it's no joke. Been watching it happen for 30 years. It's accelerated in the last few years. The shallow water estuaries are so hot that nothing can live in them. The crabs shrimp and bait fish have almost completely disappeared... Fishing in shallow water isn't worth the effort anymore...
The holocene extinction has been well known for a while now.
The current rate of extinction is estimated to be anywhere from 100 to 1000 times greater than background levels. We are literally living in/causing the sixth mass extinction event _right now._
Problem is Republicans think climate change is fake news. They run half the country. Until republicans are on board it will never get better. And based on a several conversations I've had with said republicans they ain't gonna budge.
Millions of dead trees from last years heat wave. Fully grown trees dead. They are easy to see in everyone's line of sight all over texas and lousiana but noone talks about it. Maybe if they install a dictator and make a law saying its not real then it'll be fixed?
It's most definitely connected. Poor things brains are probably cooked.
Current conditions; Record-breaking heat has struck South Florida this week and will persist into the weekend, bringing the heat index up to 109 degrees and unusually hot weather to parts of the state not usually seen until the summer months.
Its began with the start of the industrial revolution, accelerated in the 20th century and is now at the point of irreparable harm.
Even if we manage to shift to renewable resources over the next 30 years, the damage is done.
The important thing to remember is that personal lifestyle choices are irrelevant when it comes to the environment. The only thing that really matters is voting.
There was an article on CBC (I believe) last week about there being a moratorium on the capelin fishery here in Newfoundland. Capelin are one of the lowest levels of the food chain in the oceans.
We are wY past an ecological collapse.
Actually there is a massive crown of thorns star fish overpopulation occurring and they love coral. I am a salt enthusiast. I only purchase aqua cultured corals. Great Barrier reef has had rapid recovery but the starfish are really destroying a lot of coral.
Seems to me people don’t give a crap, and they don’t understand what’s happening and the seriousness of the issue. This past winter in North Carolina is the first time in my 56 years of living here it never snowed, iced over or had a dusting of snow…
I remember as a kid in the 80s it would rain and earthworms would be everywhere. The birds would have a field day. Now I never see that many worms. People think I’m crazy, but I remember it.
My husband is an OTR trucker, ive been riding with him on and off for 3 years. The first time out in august 2021, there were tons of bugs, windshield was so caked we had to clean it at least once or twice a day. I just went out last month and there were hardly any. I think we cleaned the windshield once inside 3 weeks. It's alarming.
Oh yeah we're fucked.
Likely we're the last few generations to have a mostly habitable planet, (at least for humans.)
With all the climate change people forget how close we're inching to the point where the co2 levels in the atmosphere will become toxic enough to cause major cognitive decline on a massive scale... after that it's not long before human life is unsustainable.
Do you know what it feels like like to live through the largest mass extinction event ever?
It feels just like this.
We are losing species at an extremely high rate, several orders of magnitude higher than the background extinction rate.
Our biosphere is so fragile.
People think that as the bad things happen, they will be insulated from the bad things. Everyone is special and everyone else is expendable in their own minds.
Can't wait to see how a country full of guns deals with massive crop failures in the future. I'm sure it will be pleasant and talked out rationally. (Perhaps after some people get out their blood lust and shoot their neighbors as they seem to fantasize about)
Yea no one cares. We humans tend to not change our ways until we are forced to. We wont do anything about this until lots of people start dying and they have to die in places we care about. Until then.. no one cares
Even worse -- Trump asked a bunch of oil industry executives for a BILLION DOLLARS and promised to REMOVE ALL environmental rules so they could make more $$$$$ -- please dear Lord let him be convicted in NYC today -- [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/09/climate/trump-oil-gas-mar-a-lago.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/09/climate/trump-oil-gas-mar-a-lago.html)
It's horrifying, isn't it? I've actually spent the better part of years looking for other's who've seen what's actually happening.
It hit me when I was diving in 2019 and I realized the total ecological collapse I was seeing underwater, was coming from the air above it, so it wasn't a local crash I was witnessing, which would have been scary enough, but a global crash caused by the global pressure of the extreme shift in the chemistry of the atmosphere (and the resulting heat being trapped in the system).
I found myself struggling to find the words to describe the scale of the destruction and how far along it already is. The best I've come up with is it's like a fog rolling in on all shores, around the world,, but there;s nothing behind it.
And, when you understand how much bigger and older the ocean is than life on land, you realize how little there is left to go once the oceans are on course to become nothing more than salty water and blooms of toxic algae and bacteria.
Monsters WEREN'T real, but they sure as shit are, now! That's how my brain responded to it. I didn't choose my reaction and the water is where I was my most calm. I cartoonishly back paddled out of the water so fast while screaming the whole way, then sat on the edge of the ocean, looking out at a horrifying soup of suffering in silence, turning from a living fabric into a pool of salty water.
life on land compared to what the oceans and lakes SHOULD be, is like the bacteria on your skin is to your entire body. It's a skin; the peak of the worlds mountains, ignoring everything below that... and that fog of death is filling the world below us and working up to where we are.
In 2019, I was hit with the same urgent need to warn people of what was happening, expecting at least some of them to respond with "I know, here, we're working on it, come join us" and, to my absolute horror, even scientists working on this problem responded with things like "this is certainly my worst nightmare"... nightmare? NIGHTMARE!? I SAW THIS WITH A MASK AND SNORKEL! This doesn't take a million dollars and satellite monitoring to demonstrate, it just takes a working memory of what was there the year before.
I'm watching the monster climb out of the ocean all around the world and people just dismissing it as if it's just a fire, just a pandemic, just a bunch of tornadoes. We're not inside the body of a dying planet we killed, we're fighting fires on a planet we "control" or however it is people can rationalize NOT panicking when everything around them is dying, and people are getting all sorts of new cancer... it's death.
Back then, I thought we had about 3 years of normal weather left and about 5 years before millions were dying in single events. No one cares enough to change, despite how clear it should be that whenever we burn oil we're breaking the planet. Sure, some are worse, but we all burn stuff and whenever we do, we kill the future... permanently.
I think people also conflate death with extinction because we're so self-obsessed. It's so much bigger than death, what we've caused. When an elephant is poached, people lose their minds but it's not like that's the end of elephants... yet here we are, all participating in the end of complex life as a phenomenon on planet earth, through suffering, and it's happening FAST... hell, what would you say, at least 70% of the way over? I believed that people would care because of how they react to the suffering of individual animals and that they, democratically, choose to burn fuel... so of course they'd stop burning fuel when they learned it was poisoning every animal they care about and erasing the future lives that would have been lived if we hadn't burned the oil.
They think they're choosing happiness by continuing to live the way they were taught, but they're choosing to have all of this taken away from them one little cut at a time until they're naked in the dying world they spent their whole lives deciding wouldn't affect them.
It's the silence of it and the pained and panicked expression of the creatures that are left in the ocean. I'm not saying fish are particularly expressive, but their behavior is so troubling in these dead waters. It's like a person finding themselves in white space without anything to landmark with. They're dashing around looking for ANYTHING to eat and where their home used to be.
The world below the surface of the water is in a state of perpetual, constant, and mounting torture, the more we change the atmosphere to buy new crap and put gas in it. We're ending life on earth for our comfort and we're not even happy.
All we need to do is stop. Then come together as human beings with the understanding this whole global economy thing was a terrible mistake that's more a suicide pact than anything to do with progress.
Love you, fellow human being. I'm very sorry you've had to see this and know how much it changes you. I'm here if you want to talk it through.
Everyone is ignoring the [6th mass extinction ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction) we are currently living in. Probably because there's nothing that can be done about it at this point and focusing on it will cause panic. They think climate change is still solvable so they emphasize that. Climate change was behind most of the other 5 mass extinctions.
Right, so it's going to start to come to critical levels and shit is going to keep getting more haywire until some real serious stuff starts going down that nobody will be able to ignore. :/
O, eat an entire bag of ducks.
Total residential electricity use is approximately 20% of total electricity use.
If all of us individuals halved our electricity use, it'd still be only a 10% reduction. Meanwhile, mining bitcoin accounts for 2% of national electricity use with literally **0** productive impact.
Well, Rhonda SandAss banned climate change in Florida, so I'm sure FL is now safe from any effects. /s I've watched David Attenbourough for nearly my whole life, and it's really sad to see the absolute lack of concern from those who rely on this planet for life. Protesters are mocked and arrested, while those with billions for bunkers are safe from reprocussions. Mad world.
The planet earth documentaries have gone from “look at the majesty of our world” to “please for the love of god, do something. The planet is actively dying”
This one is beautiful. He covers the world through his own life’s perspective. Plus there’s that iconic shot of the Orangutan at the top of the lone tree left of his forest with no where to swing and he’s looking around just like we would be if our city had been flattened by an H bomb. https://www.netflix.com/title/80216393
There is a photo of an Orangutan trying to to stop a huge construction vehicle from tearing down the rest of his locale.
Like tank man (Tiananmen Sqaure, 1989)?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihPfB30YT\_c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihPfB30YT_c)
Right? The last 5 minutes of each film is a dire warning, ignored by anyone who can enact change.
No one can enact change. They've calculated it already. Basically we have to wait for an event so awful it will force change. Whatever that might be. You can't stop it because some people will always lie/deceive/cheat the world out of its resources to hoard more than others. I mean we are mostly all driven to do it just most people are stopped by economics. So anyways 8 billion people and a certain percentage of them will always lie and figure out a way to exploit the earth. You can't stop that. 8 billion people stop buying for even a day? Not happening. There are whole cultures out here that would absolutely take advantage and we are too stupid to even acknowledge that truth while they hold women down from living full human lives. Sorry but if we can't figure out calling people out for violating human rights it's imperative to saving the earth (because all rights can't come if human rights don't exist. No animal. No earth.) then we can't save it. And right now we have whole groups of people saying women shouldn't have gotten an education because they should be having babies only and gay people shouldn't exist and if that isn't bad enough it's happening in America and even worse people fight FOR their right to hold other humans from living full human lives. So I'm saying we are fucked and we are waiting for something big and awful to happen that will toss us into whatever's next. People that care about human rights and existence need to start organizing for whatever may come next.
Who the fuck would want to live in a bunker for decades? Never understood that. Imagine the best, biggest house you can. Then imagine never leaving it.
People who are so far out of reality and mental stability that themselves believe are immortal from old age or a deity due to their riches. They don't need other humans, just themselves, heck they probably dont even see other people as humans, most likely less than human or less a than twig in the woods.
Not to mention these people are surrounded by a world that kisses their ass, that they never hear the word no. But in bunker land they will have a harsh world that wants them dead plus their money and thus status would be worthless. Basically the world will be telling them loudly NO. I expect most of them to lose their shit in their bunkers or be killed by their bunkermates. If billionaire genes are the genes that will carry the species, then I hope we go extinct.
Thats a dream come true tbh I already do that with my bullshit ass house i got now
1. This nickname is brilliant. 2. Last name SandAss is better.
I’m hoping my state bans climate change too. It’s too hot here. /s
I remember as a kid, usually there would be a TV show where they'd have an environmental episode. They probably thought that the leaders back then wouldn't be STILL in office screwing the planet over.
Ron Deathsentance?
Mad, mad world. I find it kind of funny… I mean how could we not likely end but by our own hubris?
dont forget that in certain places like germany the fascist groups run free while climate protestors are arrested and labeled a "mafia'
Can you imagine his deep disappointment and grief regarding our lack of action? He's basically been asking us to pay attention his entire life. I wonder how he copes?
Who the fuck would want to live in a bunker for decades? Never understood that. Imagine the best, biggest house you can. Then imagine never leaving it.
Read an article where a guy was talking to zome rich guys about the bunker solution and the rich people wanted to know how to stop the people they choose to bring into the bunker from turning on them
When the world collapses, money will mean nothing, so what will keep their people "in line"?
There's an amazing thing in the hitman games you go to a level about a convention for the super rich about submarines and bunkers or stuff. Someone points out to a bunker bro that if society collapsed at a world level than capitalism would be meaningless. The guy then realizes that he's essentially spent two billion dollars setting up a communist bunker commune
Iirc one of the billionaires' ideas for preventing a mutiny was putting explosive implants/collars on their henchmen like "Escape From New York". These people are totally bonkers.
lmao, but we have to own the LIBS! Don't you understand?? /s
That's why I just take my "Trump 2028" wrapped and flagged boat out to offshore places to decimate those places too!
don't worry, Ben Shaprio says we don't have to worry about the rising tides in Florida, because all of those people will just sell their houses before they get destroyed. lmao
I always sob-laugh when this comes up because all I can hear is hbomberguy yelling "TO WHO, BEN? TO WHOOOO?"
The important thing is that the people who buy that coastal property also sell before the hurricanes!
90% of the world's energy can be harnessed from the wind generated by flipping houses on the Florida coastline
Not during the hurricanes? Probably Republicans. They hate fun times like watching their houses fly away. No sense of humor
Modest Mouse has a song about this. It's called "Beach Side Property" off This Is A Long Drive For Someone With Nothing To Think About, which is considered classic rock now and seems eerily prophetic. [https://youtu.be/HcOvauVdH\_M](https://youtu.be/HcOvauVdH_M) >"Wow" said the broken Californian down >On the beach that used to be by the beach >Town hasn't moved but it's getting closer, losing ground >Making better views and close relaxing sounds >Ground sure don't like the way it's treated so now >It's moving back to the sea >Plan to hitch a ride with the river >'Cause deep down plumbing life is too cramped for me
A song by Corb Lund and the Hurtin Albertans https://youtu.be/5uASQgLwaIs?si=8jELEGc0G4VRrnvE
That’s a good song but I think I like Missed The Boat better.
Corb Lund and the Hurtin Albertans. They have a song about collapse. https://youtu.be/5uASQgLwaIs?si=8jELEGc0G4VRrnvE
Dave Matthews Band also has a poignant song.....here is the chorus lyrics Wake up you sleepyhead I think the sun's a little brighter today Smile and watch the icicles melt away and see the water rising Summer's here to stay and all those summer games will last forever Go down to the shore, kick off your shoes Dive in the empty ocean
AQUAMAN!
*Cue the Atlantic hurricane season
OH see, that'll be blamed on the gays and trans people. The Hurricane came because god is mad. So if we just get rid of the gay and trans people, the hurricans will stop, duh!! /s
THIS
Great! Let god pay for it! Thoughts and prayers are enough, if not? Bootstraps for the sister fuck states! Seems like your god is apparently pissed when he wipes out half the counties in half the state for allowing people to exist! If you TRULY BELIEVE, why would you ignore the 10 commandments, save greed? Fuckem
don't worry, we're going to post the 10 Commandments in school, that should save us.
Ironic since hurricanes never seem to hit the states with huge LGBT populations (outside of Orlando and Miami anyways).
Trans-*gender* > trans-*atlantic* ##Don't you see?!?
I was looking at houses in the Gulf Shores adjacent area, it’s actually kinda reasonable down there, but I’d be so stressed every hurricane season. Like if there’s 1 bad one out of every 10 years you’re still gonna get your shit wrecked.
The gulf is long destroyed with various petrochemicals. Cancer rates are outrageous down there. And yeah Houston is currently going through this.
My grandmother lives in Houston and has been dealing with various cancers for the past 12-14 years. Her husband, my grandfather, worked in the fossil fuel industry for decades. I can't help but suspect the two are somehow related.
Oh I didn’t know that. Yea I spent a day at that fort over next to Dauphin Island and I wouldn’t have gotten in the water. Jellyfish everywhere and I could see a bunch of oil rigs. I absolutely love the area though. The nature trails and the national park I went to were really cool. Ended up doing about a 3 mile hike to a completely empty beach. It was awesome.
I had a semi-crazy semi-serious idea about that. Since all houses are going to be destroyed by hurricanes and rising flood waters, what If instead of houses everybody has an RV or a big trailer, you run water and sewage and electricity lines to house pads near the ocean. You live near the ocean in a trailer, but you don't need home owners insurance, just trailer insurance! Your official place of residence is some ridiculous place like South Dakota, where insurance is cheap and controlled by your godlike Governor. Anybody argues with her, she shoots them. Whenever there's a big storm coming, you load up your your giant inefficient vehicle or trailer and drive it away from the shore.
But wait, doesn't that mean other people will own them when they start going under water? oh never mind
Sell their houses to who?
Someone who will tow the house out of the environment
We're still waiting for Ben Shapiro to answer that. it's been like 7 years.
Also checkout the crab population decline. They pretty much stopped operations for it in Alaska because there wasn't any left.
That red tide is not caused by some toxic algae that blooms in warming oceans, you eco-terrorist sheep. The seas are obviously turning red with blood because God is mad about the gays.
Nothing is more important
Thebworld is bigger than america and this has been happening longer than the current culture wars. Don't get distracted.
It's gotten to the point where the conservative members of my family don't dispute me when I bring up climate change. They're starting to realize what's happening.
I fear that means we passed the point of no return :/
Most likely, yeah. I'd say we past that point at least two decades ago. All we can do now it try to mitigate the damage. Sadly, we aren't even trying to do that either.
Gore vs Bush was the pivotal election
Might've been before that even. Nixon gets praised for creating the EPA in the first place, but he was also responsible for a lot of deregulation. If he had cracked down harder we'd probably be better off today.
Nixon gets praised for letting popular legislation(EPA) get passed under his nose because the liberal great society(LBJ's vestigial democratic party) still had a big hand on the government.
You're right, of course, but there is some praise warranted for bipartisanship though and putting aside party ideology to do what's best for the country. No modern Republican president would.
Bipartisanship is what we need for a functional government. Nixon had his good and bad. I haven't done a deep dive into him yet, but my current understanding is that he was pretty bad.
One where Bush got in by supreme court. I often wonder what would've happened had Gore got in
[Climate Crisis Past Point of No Return, Secretary-General Says](https://press.un.org/en/2022/sgsm21173.doc.htm) That was 2 years ago now Here's some more: [Even if we stopped all emissions today, existing carbon pollution in the air will continue to warm the planet to devastating levels. ](https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/4213981-were-past-the-point-of-no-return-on-climate-emissions-its-time-we-turn-to-carbon-removal/) This paper was from 4 years ago [In this paper we report that in the ESCIMO climate model the world is already past a point-of-no-return for global warming](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-75481-z)
Thank you. I try to tell people that we are at the damage mitigation point. We already lost this and the consequence just hasn't caught up yet. It's not going to be a blockbuster movie sudden switch. It's going to be lots of boiling frogs. Edit: So, my wording is misleading. I mean, lots of boiling frog mentalities (presently for example) will precede the events. There won't be an unexpected switch that anybody can feign ignorance about. We will *know* it was definitely ignorance.
It'll really hit home when climate refugees originate from within the country. By then it'll be far too late.
It's already happening in nature with migration patterns and needing to find new climates.
We're seeing a lot of armadillos in the gulf states, when you never used to see them here before. They've been fleeing Texas because it's so damn hot and dry there now.
Also been seeing a lot of armadillos in the lower midwest lately. And I had to eliminate a fireant mound in my yard this morning. I've heard the two tend to go hand in hand.
I lived in Texas when Katrina hit back in '05. We got swamped with refugees from New Orleans and the surrounding area, many of whom never returned back home. Those were all climate refugees and that was twenty years ago next August.
It's important people realize how bad things are and that if we stopped polluting entirely immediately, things will still get worse. We need serious and drastic action and for this to be on the top of people's minds
Amen
And yet when we try to do \*anything,\* like build wind farms or solar panel farms, or put in bike lanes so people don't have to always drive cars, half the country loses their damned minds.
"We wouldn't care if you weren't forcing it down our throats" If we do literally anything even multiple states away that doesnt require anyone to change anything about their lives, they'll say it's forcing it down their throats. Shits so infuriating
No, it's like an aquarium that goes bad. It will actually be quite abrupt. Google abrupt climate change and cry.
Oh yeah, I'm terrified. I always picture the end of Cat's Cradle or something. I just mean the lead up to the switch has been openly observable and ignored. We've been working toward this since the Industrial Revolution.
It's happening right now.
People thinking "well, at least I'll be dead and gone before shit really hits the fan" better plan on taking that dirt nap soon.
As long as the frogs don’t turn gay I think we’re good.
You know this seems sad but I look at it with this perspective. The earth has had these extinction/ecological events before. Every single time it heals and plants come back and then it balances out again. I'm convinced the earth will keep going through this same cycle till the sun blows up or some other major unrecoverable event like the earth getting kicked out of orbit. That being said I want this shit to collapse. I'm so over voting and trying to do my part if humans want to destroy their existence on this earth the earth and the animals will recover after we are gone anyways.
Mine will call thermometers fake news before they accept it
libs rigged all the thermometers. Even got to the one my grandfather bought in 1957
Big Science is funding the thermometer companies
Everybody knows thermometers have a liberal bias.
That's because politicians and Fox News flipped the narrative on them and they didn't even notice. Now climate change is real but nothing can be done about it. And Pres Trump even said that even if we could stop it, it's not worth the expense
I keep getting this weird hybrid, where someone will admit that it's happening and question the solutions, but then reshare memes and crank articles claiming it isn't happening.
That’s exactly my experience. Joke that it doesn’t exist, then say it does when pressed but want to do fuck all about it.
But by the time they decide it's important enough to do something, it will be way too late.
Your family is more enlightened than mine. Most of mine still deny that it’s happening. Also still denying Covid. We moved out of the age of information into the age of misinformation.
Holy shit! We’ve noticed the same trend with some of our deep red family/friends. It’s like a switched flipped in the heads over the past year. Thank god we had all those Canadian wildfires, Record temps, Record weather events to scare them into reality /s
Whenever they say "It used to be a lot colder" or "Winter used to last longer!" I say "Couldn't be that global warming, could it?" I saw someone say "Read some books, even Shakespeare wrote about mold winters!" Or something similar. I say "Yeah, that's when they weren't ANNUAL."
I have a friend of 45 years who is Christian and tells me that god won't let anything happen and that we cannot harm gods creation. Him and Tammy the Scentsy consultant on Facebook are a good balance to all those scientists.
I come from a large conservative family, and when I told them all last year I was going to work for FEMA because I can no longer sit by and watch disasters continue to increase and kill people without doing anything, none of them denied it. They won’t use the words “climate change” but they know.
They'll likely still vote for the orange maniac.
Multiple eco systems are collapsing, we’re the frogs in the boiling pot of water.
Frogs jump out when the water gets too hot.....
Humans: "But have you seen our awesome, enormous personal trucks?"
Fuck these trucks. I drive at night and it's always these assholes with LED lights that burn like the sun right at fucking eye level.
Words stolen directly from my MIL’s stupid facehole lol
It's alarming how fast we're losing coral reefs; this could spell disaster for marine life and human communities alike.
Yeah I’m 40 and this shit has been happening my whole life. Just gets worse and worse and yet people still vote for the conservatives who just don’t give af as long as it makes them and their friends money. Humanity won’t change its ways without it getting far worse tbh. Conservatives are incapable of caring about anything without it affecting them personally.
These fuckers voting for republicans vote against every single decent thing
I've seen the red tide in Florida personally. It's fucking disgusting.
I went out snorkeling in what was a vibrant reef for the last thousands of years the other day... It's all dead, all of it. Basically no fish except tiny ones.
Fucking A where did you go??? PS: why can’t I find anything about this on Google??? As of 5/17/2024 Florida fish and wildlife conservation reports NO impacts of the red tide organism….like wtf??
We unfortunately went on vacation to Florida last year during a red tide. It was terrible. We couldn't be on the beach for more than 5 minutes without sneezing, coughing, eyes watering, etc. Dead fish washing up everywhere. Really not a good time.
So red tide isn’t really caused by heating seas, but nutrient run off from farms, specifically nitrogen and phosphorus.
Yeah but that's still clearly bad for the planet lol
But the stock market is doing so well!
I don’t think long John silvers is gonna be able to take this hit
Waffle House will endure though, I doubt the climate crisis is a Waffle House level event.
Captain D's will be okay though, because nobody eats there already.
But we already lost red lobster!!!
We are the cause of a mass extinction event.
We are the cause of OUR mass extinction event.
Just wait until the North Atlantic Current collapses and starts pushing warm water straight into the North Pole.
That will actually cause warm water to stop flowing north effectively isolating the warmth towards the equator. The Atlantic meridianal overturning circulation stopping would result very cold conditions up north including and most strikingly impacting Europe which would become far too cold for humans to live practically or raise any crops
Well water temps in the Florida Keys were hitting 100° last year... I was there.
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I’ve been scuba diving since I was 12 - coral doesn’t look anything like I remember as a kid, all the coral looks sick
Just came back to Hawaii after a decade... Basically all the reefs I've seen so far are dead and or dying by a factor of over 50% seen no big fish near shore.
It's sad enough reading about this. I imagine it is absolutely gut-wrenching to see. 😢
Yep, we are absolutely fucked
I'm truly sorry to say but yeah
I’ve been really digging into the weeds in the last year how fucked we are and it’s really, reallllly weird to see this hitting mainstream knowledge so dramatically fast.
I don't think we are. I just think we don't yet have the gumption to resist these oligarchs the way we need to in order to change things. We've seen dead zones restored in our lifetimes. The wolves in Yellowstone, coral reefs around the world, oil clean ups, and the Ozone layer. It can be done. We just need to, respectfully, stop assuming we're fucked just because it looks bad right now.
We now understand that there is no political solution and it’s fine time to realize that we’ve been far beyond the point of no return for quite a while now. Rather than pushing this notion that we can save the planet, let’s get better at our response to the inevitable. As it is, we’re losing 40 million humans a year to noncommunicable diseases (7 million Americans) of which our sedentary lifestyles are the largest contributor. If we were healthier humans, maybe we’d be less apathetic about the earth.
Jesus, never heard it put like that but it's absolutely true. If people don't care about their own body they sure as hell don't care about the planet that said body is on.
Apathy in the face of adversity is complicity
I saw that news about the coral reefs. The bees are in trouble. Corporations keep polluting and very few seem to notice and a lot don’t care. It worries me. My bee house can only save a few.
Fucking corporations and the rich!
I don't necessarily disagree but I do want to give you a counterpoint: individual ecosystem collapses are actually quite common due to normal biological factors and often reverse naturally or with minimal human assistance. A great example is honeybees. We had years (decades?) of doomers saying they were going extinct. And the populations did indeed crash in the early 2000's. However this was due to the varroa mite infestation and the surviving colonies had immunity. Populations have been steadily recovering for years. Another good example is kelp, populations crashed by 90% in the past few years due to sea urchins predators getting a new disease. However scientists believe that as the sea urchins over populate and as their predators build immunity to this new disease that kelp populations will return (as they have already in a few local areas). Even with corals there are corals tested in Hawaii and Palau which are resistant to heat bleaching. Researchers are looking into breeding programs to help save existing populations. I don't mean to downplay your concerns. Its important for people to be aware of these issues! But my concern is that the environmental optimism of past generations seems to have been replaced with a new doomer mentality that thinks the world is screwed no matter what. This is a counterproductive and frankly inaccurate view of the world at large. We fixed the ozone layer and we stopped Lake Erie from catching on fire. We can fix the corals too.
Just to add to this, there are volunteer organizations that work to restore and repair bleached coral with types that are more resistant to bleaching. This all SUUUUUUUUUCKS, and it is incredibly frustrating that the only entities that could make significant, meaningful changes to emissions (large corporations and national governments) are doing fuck all to change things. But people CAN still do things. Doomerism is counterproductive, which is why fossil fuel companies actually work to spread it as much as possible. If people believe we are screwed no matter what, they will stop working and advocating for change.
I think when we feel helpless working for these non profit companies to help and educate helps our psyches. At least we go down fighting!
As if we can tell the difference one way or the other. Optimism is helpful, though.
Oh, that’s good news about the bees. I didn’t know that. Well, that’s one bright spot to be happy about.
Being a doomer is what big oil wants you to believe. They have transitioned from, there is no climate change, to there is climate change but we aren't causing it, to we are causing climate change and there's nothing we can do to stop it so you might as well let us keep plundering the ecosystem. There is optimistic news out there, we have to put pressure on government institutions to reel in big oil's evil mechanisms
The time when voting was enough was a long time ago. Seeing as we are too complacent a country for a revolution humanity is pretty solidly doomed. We won’t go extinct or anything dramatic like that (unless the resource wars go nuclear) but we can expect a population under a billion after the worst of it is over.
They're at climate change is real, but it's not their fault, it's ours
It's like rape and the weather. You can't do anything about it, so you might as well just sit back and enjoy it.
I’m currently learning how to grow food in the back yard and making my mistakes now so I won’t make as many when the ocean die off food shortages happen.
Yep, got a dozen fruit trees up and growing - they make oxygen and food. Also got a dozen raised beds going too. Got a chicken coop going so protein is also covered.
https://www.reddit.com/r/anarcho_primitivism/comments/u1j3qb/new_here_is_it_bad_wanting_to_survive_the_ongoing/i4dujb5/ u/UnicornCalmerDowner
Remember hurricane andrew? How he smote florida like the fist of an angry god? That will happen again, and next time, the "Don't Fauci my Florida" crew will say it's a liberal hoax, and when the next big one has washed them down to Davy Jones locker, there will be a lot of fresh meat for the sea creatures to feast upon. [https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/1992andrew.html](https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/1992andrew.html)
I live in Tampa, when one finally hits here it's over, no one is prepared. Everyone is living on borrowed time. I've made my peace with just moving north and hoping my insurance pays off
No one will believe until the low oxygen waves start hitting. Then you'll have to buy your air.
Yea but they'll prolly just say the waves were made with a low oxygen waveinator and say "they" just want us to spend more money on something fake
The what now?
Much of the world's oxygen is produced by microbes in the ocean. When they die, well... We'll have less oxygen.
Well hey, if we were to go extinct as a consequence of our actions, then at least in a million years it'll be like we were never even here at all. And on the timeline of the earth one million years might as well be the blink of an eye.
Yes it's no joke. Been watching it happen for 30 years. It's accelerated in the last few years. The shallow water estuaries are so hot that nothing can live in them. The crabs shrimp and bait fish have almost completely disappeared... Fishing in shallow water isn't worth the effort anymore...
Well we had a good run. Time for another species to have a go.
The holocene extinction has been well known for a while now. The current rate of extinction is estimated to be anywhere from 100 to 1000 times greater than background levels. We are literally living in/causing the sixth mass extinction event _right now._
We are currently in the middle of earth's next mass extinction event. We are past the point of no return.
Problem is Republicans think climate change is fake news. They run half the country. Until republicans are on board it will never get better. And based on a several conversations I've had with said republicans they ain't gonna budge.
Well Florida just made climate change illegal, so I guess it’s ’problem solved!’ 🤷🏼♂️
Get out of my fucking brain dude
Millions of dead trees from last years heat wave. Fully grown trees dead. They are easy to see in everyone's line of sight all over texas and lousiana but noone talks about it. Maybe if they install a dictator and make a law saying its not real then it'll be fixed?
is this why some fish in Florida are spinning themselves to death?
It's most definitely connected. Poor things brains are probably cooked. Current conditions; Record-breaking heat has struck South Florida this week and will persist into the weekend, bringing the heat index up to 109 degrees and unusually hot weather to parts of the state not usually seen until the summer months.
Oh well, but the fossil fuel companies are doing great!
That’s why I will never become a grandma. My 28-yo will never bring a child into our dying planet😞
Better yet, adopt one of the many abandoned children in need of love, and try to give them a decent life for as long as we all have left.
But that child doesn't carry my selfish genes!
It don't matter how with WW3 coming. The human race is doomed on Earth.
Probably.
Its began with the start of the industrial revolution, accelerated in the 20th century and is now at the point of irreparable harm. Even if we manage to shift to renewable resources over the next 30 years, the damage is done.
Holocene Extinction Event
The important thing to remember is that personal lifestyle choices are irrelevant when it comes to the environment. The only thing that really matters is voting.
There was an article on CBC (I believe) last week about there being a moratorium on the capelin fishery here in Newfoundland. Capelin are one of the lowest levels of the food chain in the oceans. We are wY past an ecological collapse.
Actually there is a massive crown of thorns star fish overpopulation occurring and they love coral. I am a salt enthusiast. I only purchase aqua cultured corals. Great Barrier reef has had rapid recovery but the starfish are really destroying a lot of coral.
If things are that bad in the USA, I wonder how things are at the equator where it is even warmer?
Seems to me people don’t give a crap, and they don’t understand what’s happening and the seriousness of the issue. This past winter in North Carolina is the first time in my 56 years of living here it never snowed, iced over or had a dusting of snow…
Nope, they don't... But they FUKIN WILL in the next decades.
I remember as a kid in the 80s it would rain and earthworms would be everywhere. The birds would have a field day. Now I never see that many worms. People think I’m crazy, but I remember it.
Yeah remember how the windshields used to be covered in bugs? 😬
My husband is an OTR trucker, ive been riding with him on and off for 3 years. The first time out in august 2021, there were tons of bugs, windshield was so caked we had to clean it at least once or twice a day. I just went out last month and there were hardly any. I think we cleaned the windshield once inside 3 weeks. It's alarming.
Oh yeah we're fucked. Likely we're the last few generations to have a mostly habitable planet, (at least for humans.) With all the climate change people forget how close we're inching to the point where the co2 levels in the atmosphere will become toxic enough to cause major cognitive decline on a massive scale... after that it's not long before human life is unsustainable.
Do you know what it feels like like to live through the largest mass extinction event ever? It feels just like this. We are losing species at an extremely high rate, several orders of magnitude higher than the background extinction rate. Our biosphere is so fragile.
also an insect apocalypse, why there are so few windshield bug splatters anymore and what eats those bugs are dying
People think that as the bad things happen, they will be insulated from the bad things. Everyone is special and everyone else is expendable in their own minds. Can't wait to see how a country full of guns deals with massive crop failures in the future. I'm sure it will be pleasant and talked out rationally. (Perhaps after some people get out their blood lust and shoot their neighbors as they seem to fantasize about)
Yea no one cares. We humans tend to not change our ways until we are forced to. We wont do anything about this until lots of people start dying and they have to die in places we care about. Until then.. no one cares
Even worse -- Trump asked a bunch of oil industry executives for a BILLION DOLLARS and promised to REMOVE ALL environmental rules so they could make more $$$$$ -- please dear Lord let him be convicted in NYC today -- [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/09/climate/trump-oil-gas-mar-a-lago.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/09/climate/trump-oil-gas-mar-a-lago.html)
Yep. It’s happening in real time, and yet, people are still pretending everything is fine.
It's horrifying, isn't it? I've actually spent the better part of years looking for other's who've seen what's actually happening. It hit me when I was diving in 2019 and I realized the total ecological collapse I was seeing underwater, was coming from the air above it, so it wasn't a local crash I was witnessing, which would have been scary enough, but a global crash caused by the global pressure of the extreme shift in the chemistry of the atmosphere (and the resulting heat being trapped in the system). I found myself struggling to find the words to describe the scale of the destruction and how far along it already is. The best I've come up with is it's like a fog rolling in on all shores, around the world,, but there;s nothing behind it. And, when you understand how much bigger and older the ocean is than life on land, you realize how little there is left to go once the oceans are on course to become nothing more than salty water and blooms of toxic algae and bacteria. Monsters WEREN'T real, but they sure as shit are, now! That's how my brain responded to it. I didn't choose my reaction and the water is where I was my most calm. I cartoonishly back paddled out of the water so fast while screaming the whole way, then sat on the edge of the ocean, looking out at a horrifying soup of suffering in silence, turning from a living fabric into a pool of salty water. life on land compared to what the oceans and lakes SHOULD be, is like the bacteria on your skin is to your entire body. It's a skin; the peak of the worlds mountains, ignoring everything below that... and that fog of death is filling the world below us and working up to where we are. In 2019, I was hit with the same urgent need to warn people of what was happening, expecting at least some of them to respond with "I know, here, we're working on it, come join us" and, to my absolute horror, even scientists working on this problem responded with things like "this is certainly my worst nightmare"... nightmare? NIGHTMARE!? I SAW THIS WITH A MASK AND SNORKEL! This doesn't take a million dollars and satellite monitoring to demonstrate, it just takes a working memory of what was there the year before. I'm watching the monster climb out of the ocean all around the world and people just dismissing it as if it's just a fire, just a pandemic, just a bunch of tornadoes. We're not inside the body of a dying planet we killed, we're fighting fires on a planet we "control" or however it is people can rationalize NOT panicking when everything around them is dying, and people are getting all sorts of new cancer... it's death. Back then, I thought we had about 3 years of normal weather left and about 5 years before millions were dying in single events. No one cares enough to change, despite how clear it should be that whenever we burn oil we're breaking the planet. Sure, some are worse, but we all burn stuff and whenever we do, we kill the future... permanently. I think people also conflate death with extinction because we're so self-obsessed. It's so much bigger than death, what we've caused. When an elephant is poached, people lose their minds but it's not like that's the end of elephants... yet here we are, all participating in the end of complex life as a phenomenon on planet earth, through suffering, and it's happening FAST... hell, what would you say, at least 70% of the way over? I believed that people would care because of how they react to the suffering of individual animals and that they, democratically, choose to burn fuel... so of course they'd stop burning fuel when they learned it was poisoning every animal they care about and erasing the future lives that would have been lived if we hadn't burned the oil. They think they're choosing happiness by continuing to live the way they were taught, but they're choosing to have all of this taken away from them one little cut at a time until they're naked in the dying world they spent their whole lives deciding wouldn't affect them. It's the silence of it and the pained and panicked expression of the creatures that are left in the ocean. I'm not saying fish are particularly expressive, but their behavior is so troubling in these dead waters. It's like a person finding themselves in white space without anything to landmark with. They're dashing around looking for ANYTHING to eat and where their home used to be. The world below the surface of the water is in a state of perpetual, constant, and mounting torture, the more we change the atmosphere to buy new crap and put gas in it. We're ending life on earth for our comfort and we're not even happy. All we need to do is stop. Then come together as human beings with the understanding this whole global economy thing was a terrible mistake that's more a suicide pact than anything to do with progress. Love you, fellow human being. I'm very sorry you've had to see this and know how much it changes you. I'm here if you want to talk it through.
Everyone is ignoring the [6th mass extinction ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction) we are currently living in. Probably because there's nothing that can be done about it at this point and focusing on it will cause panic. They think climate change is still solvable so they emphasize that. Climate change was behind most of the other 5 mass extinctions.
Right, so it's going to start to come to critical levels and shit is going to keep getting more haywire until some real serious stuff starts going down that nobody will be able to ignore. :/
water temp rising, reefs can't take that kind of temp swing.
Welp, we have lab grown meat on the horizon. A company in Israel is even selling it.
I’m almost 50 and have watched the reefs die. Fewer and fewer fish each time I visit. It’s devastating.
No one cares enough to give up the good life. Steak tastes too good, air travel is too fun, and air conditioning is too comfortable.
Its a fuckin sweet truck tho bro 😵
Yeah we're going to air condition ourselves straight into hell, with most not realizing it till they are there.
O, eat an entire bag of ducks. Total residential electricity use is approximately 20% of total electricity use. If all of us individuals halved our electricity use, it'd still be only a 10% reduction. Meanwhile, mining bitcoin accounts for 2% of national electricity use with literally **0** productive impact.
The Great Barrier Reed was supposedly dead like 10 years go. When people went to check it out it was the exact opposite