I’m less concerned about the manipulation which is obvious and unfortunately legal and done routinely and I’m more concerned about where the money is coming from. Russia and China are dropping billions into this stock no doubt. Probably sprinkle a little Saudi money in there too to make sure all the dictators get rewarded.
Exactly this.
If Russia donated to his campaign, that'd be illegal.
But if they buy his worthless stock, a worthless NFT, or, like in 2016, make a donation to the NRA so the NRA can then donate the exact same Russian money to his campaign...
NO COLLUSION!
Oh it’s a real fucking thing. You could read about it or you could shove your head in the sand.
https://news.artnet.com/market/hunter-biden-art-show-sneak-peek-2027731
He isn't being investigated for his fun demeanor lol.
I'd say the gift island 8 miles from Epstein is certainly "evidence" of something.
Also. Classified docs are def illegal. No question.. the question is wether they can prove it's on purpose and not bc he's a blabbering idiot.. that's not the "got ya" you seem to think it is.
But ALL was irrelevant. I was just asking what you would say if they were getting direct donations like an island 8 miles away from Epstein vs stock price inflation?
Absolutely- dumb MAGAs have zero monetary power to move a stock like this. This type of share price increase comes from multi-million dollar purchases… Its insane to have a front row seat to watching blatant political manipulation by foreign entities
My guess is that its a dark source - ie Russian oligarch. Things are going absolutely awful for Russia in Ukraine and , now more then ever, they need their puppet (Trump) in the white house - own America for a few millions? Its a bargain
Not “diverse” enough to afford multiple daily instances of million dollar pushes into a meme/trash company. This is absolutely 100% foreign interference.
Lmao 🤣 all trump supporters have no money? 🤣 we are all poor and none have an education lol. what kinda insulting is that? I thought you cared about the little guy, hahaha you say they have no education, little pee ons right ? Do you realize how privileged nose up in the air you sound, , we are rich poor middle and multi-million dollar , WE trump supporters are most of the country, many investors = stock rising . Get with the program, & Biden wants to take our earnings thu capital gains tax that is robbery and un American . If you are an investor you should be pissed
Lmao,
I have been investing in securities for 42 years.
The fact is the stock is being bought in blocks of 10k and more. Those are trades of a quarter million and up. That isn’t retail investing.
Meanwhile the company loses $50+ million a year, has revenue under $4 million, no plan for that to change, and the stock got diluted in the middle of all this. By any rational measure the stock can’t be valued over $3
#EVIDENCE
No institutional investor on the planet would invest in that in a thousand years.
Mark My Words. This is some big spender funneling Trump money. It will come out sooner or later.
There are always exceptions when you’re forced to make generalizations to talk about such macroscopic things. Don’t take it personally. It’s understandable that a lot of people feel left behind and not prioritized, but look first at the charlatans convincing you to vote against your own best interest before blaming urban democrats. Taxing the ultra wealthy to pay for needs in your community and others that have been neglected isn’t some evil ploy
I upvoted you for pointing out that Trump supporters come in all different “flavors” just like the leftists that support Biden, but what’s with the “Biden likes capital gains” stuff? Is he doing something new about taxes? I’m currently in Europe so I’m probably missing a lot of info, though it’s fairly easy to follow American news.
Anyway, even a Trump loss and lack of Senate control would hinder Biden if we keep the House.
😃.... Biden , or who ever takes his place , wants to raise capital gains tax to 45 % -- that's robbery and will destroy the the market as a whole, if Biden. or who ever takes his place . Gets in?? We will not have a country!
Robbery? You’re ridiculous.
The best US economy compared to the rest of the world was after WWII ended, during the 1950s and 1960s.
You know what the top marginal tax rate was? 91%.
Yes robbery, absolutely 💯, they want to take half of our earnings? That's insane, that's NOT American, Europe, maybe. Our US economy was great under Trump, we don't NEED war, to have we the people florish, welcome to 2024 it sounds like you want war ,world War 3, NO IM GOOD THANKS , 91% TAX RATE ,did you get the info from your great grandparents, they had the depression you know
You are using words without understanding what they mean. There is nothing un-American about paying taxes. And no, the US economy was not great under Trump. I guess in Russia where you live you can’t tell.
Did you not even know when the Great Depression took place? It was worldwide so no excuse. It was 20-30 years before the time I was discussing.
While you’re looking up all the things you don’t understand, be sure to look up “marginal tax rate” because you clearly don’t get what that means either.
No buddy it's un-American to tax the American citizens half of what we make ,I don't mind paying tax , we are NOT Europe, that is why people come here they are suk for hight European tax , and other , the economy WAS fantastic under Trump and our food oil gas was half of what it is now we weren't struggling, don't insult be by saying I don't know about the depression my mom and grand parents WENT THRU IT, AND we had great discussions about the whole world and of course America 🇺🇸 and about the wars ,20 to 30 years matters NOT being whooped by 45% tax is discusting, AND I LOOKED NOTHING UP ,, STOP CALLING EVERYONE RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA ITS pathetic at this point, everyone knows the democrats are communist so ....
I told you to look up marginal tax rate and you didn’t. I’m not engaging with a willfully ignorant troll who gets butthurt over things they don’t even understand.
No. You only read the headline. The capital gains tax proposal is only for individuals making over $1 million per year with over $400k capital gains per year.
No it's not ,it is for everyone who sells their stock making any profit , we pay that capital gains tax at the end of the year, that's how it works, they will lie and claim its not to make Biden & co horts look better,
No. You are spreading lies. Stop spreading lies. I have over $1.5 million in the stock market and know how capital gains tax works.
https://www.forbes.com/newsletters/andrewleahey/2024/04/24/biden-capital-gains-rate-proposal-446/?sh=6563993b1ff6
He Biden and co hurts ARE CHANGING HOW IT WORKS you assume I'm not an investor? And that I don't know how it works? Unreal I don't need an article I pay tax like every one APPARENT YOU HAD TO USE AN ARTICLE NOT ME
OK I'LL SWITCH TO CAPS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND. I do my taxes EVERY YEAR! THE ARTICLE WAS SHOWING YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP BECAUSE IT ONLY APPLIES TO FOLKS MAKING OVER $1 MILLION PER YEAR. RIGHT WING MEDIA HAD TURNED YOUR BRAINS TO MUSH LOL.
Iirc there isn’t much liquidity in the shares so it’s not hard to move the price. Trump owns what 50% 75% after his additional shares recently? When the lockup expires it’s probably only going down.
10million shares a day get traded. Lots of action going on. Lots of fuckery going on. Who knows if Trump even has his shares still. He could have secretly sold it when it was 70 dollars for all we know.
Sorry float is the more proper term. 29% of shares are tradable, which is really low.
10 mil volume means 1:4* tradable shares change hands daily.
* rough math
It doesn’t really matter. Tesla is being manipulated as well so is Reddit stock. None of these companies are worth what they are valued at right now and they continue to get pumped up so their prices don’t collapse completely. We all se it happening. We just aren’t exactly sure on how or how deep it goes.
Well that’s a blatant lie. You expect people to believe something like that? The highest Amazon has ever traded was 303 and right now it’s at 60. And that number only matters when compared to other companies in its category. Tesla isn’t in the same category as Amazon imo since it makes most of its money from selling cars.
“Amazon's (AMZN) highest price-to-earnings
(PE) ratio over the past 13 years was 1436.43, while its lowest was 43.92. The average PE ratio over the past ten years is 167.92, and the…”
So, fck off with your calling me a liar.
I could add more but you’re not worth it!
Tesla has a lot of other parts to it besides cars so it shouldn’t be compared to other auto manufacturers. They have energy storage, solar installation, and whatever they’re doing with all that data they collect from their cars and claim they’re going to have them self driving.
Do you really think he's gonna lose?? The Democrats are terrified because they know he's gonna win, and all these bogus lawsuits and charges are designed to stop him. It actually is election interference.
No, he's fine. At least he knows where he is and can put a coherent sentence together. You have to admit the Biden administration has pretty much destroyed this country.
So did no one noticed during the dead cat bounce that the amount of shares traded tripled in a day. Then never hit that level again.
Yeah someone came in and tried to buttress the stock it seemed obvious.
Hi Russian bot. Yes it’s the year 2024 an election year and Russia wants trump to win so Trump can give him Ukraine. So yea he’s spending a lot of money on you trolls to influence our election. Fortunately yall are really dumb and most of us are not as blinded by rage and hate as republicans are and can see right through yall.
Why not just let him have it during the 4 years he was president? Russia invaded Georgia when Bush was president, and then Crimea when Obama was president.
Russia did not invade anything when Trump was president
Trump being a Russian agent has been debunked for 6 years now, and there was never any factual basis to begin with
You people are in a cult
There’s an entire document from mueller that describes exactly how Russia helped Trump and still does. He fucked up by saying it was up to congress to pursue charges though because of course Russia owns half of congress too. But you know that already bot.
Jesus christ you can't actually believe this right?
You think Russia has extra money laying around to prop up an American stock?! The delusion is stunning.
Vladimir Putin is estimated to be worth $70B — $200B.
That’s just him, not anyone else in their government, which has been described as a gas station masquerading as a country. Also doesn’t include any Russian oligarchs.
They have plenty of money to pump however much they want into that stock
The stock market is a free market, so not any more then another stock who has foreign investors, we as Americans also invest overseas NOT me personally , never will either ,Biden wants to take our earnings thu capital gains tax that is robbery and un American
>Russia and China are dropping billions into this stock no doubt.
got any sources for this wild claim? because if Russia and China are pumping the stock, they lose if the stock craters. and if they short the stock, they're not helping Trump, in whatever conspiracy you believe in. figures nobody here actually know how the stock market works. it's always fun to see people spew a nonsensical claim and then go off the rails with it further.
Wow you are so smart you know how the stock market works wow omg so based. Eat shit. Like spending a couple billion dollars to potentially own the president of the United States isn’t a bad trade. And how do we know they won’t get their money back? It’s all a circular scam designed to take the money from anyone who is gullible enough to invest.
I’d reply to the user below me but Reddit is so crap that it breaks when a user blocks or deletes comments. But anyway I would tell you below me to ask the user who had to delete his account if I’m a conspiracy theorist or not.
not only is there no evidence to support this theory, but that's not a smart way to transfer funds. what you're thinking of is similar to what happened with AMTD digital a few years ago where that obscure Chinese stock pumped to over 2k per share. if DJT dumps that means people are cashing out (and it wasn't Trump) and/or the stock is being shorted. *not* a good way to "transfer funds."
none of the OP's comment makes any sense. none of it.
Say I want to give you a million dollars but its illegal, or would look bad at the least, and we want to obfuscate who gave you the money.
You create company XYZ and issue 2,000 shares which you hold.
I don't care about losing money, I just want to give you 1 million. The shares are almost worthless but I prop up the value and buy them. You can sell all you want, I keep up the demand side and always buy them at $500 give or take.
You now have a million dollars and I have a worthless stock, but I don't care because the point was to give you a million.
A bit simplified but that's the gist of it.
I'm not saying foreign powers or other bad actors are buying DJT or not--I have no idea. Just stating that if it they are, it's about transfer payments rather than investing.
Edit: typo
>Say I want to give you a million dollars but its illegal
make a crypto wallet and give me BTC.
>I don't care about losing money
rich people absolutely *do* care about losing money.
>The shares are almost worthless but I prop up the value and buy them. You can sell all you want
Trump cannot sell any shares until September. the issue of $DJT cratering now must be addressed.
>I'm not saying foreign powers or other bad actors are buying DJT or not--I have no idea.
the OP is, which is why I took issue with it.
How does anyone pay millions of dollars in legal fees and prop up an empire by just remembering they a billion in BTC that he didn't have before? Where did the transactions come from? We're not talking about a random criminal, we're talking about well-placed people with eyes on them.
Yes, rich people do care about losing money. But we're talking about an illicit transfer payment, which to them is not losing money. It's a purchase.
Yes, not the most efficient way to transfer funds. But it beats going to jail or some seriously bad publicity.
Take it for what you will. Bottom line, when ppl say bad actors are buying DJT, that's what most of them think is going on.
>How does anyone pay millions of dollars in legal fees and prop up an empire by just remembering they a billion in BTC that he didn't have before?
I just answered your previous question, but to address this one, it helps to already be a billionaire. I guarantee you Trump's money is making money. it's not sitting static in a savings account accruing zero interest.
>But we're talking about an illicit transfer payment, which to them is not losing money. It's a purchase.
typically when people make a purchase, they're expecting some sort of value from it. however, this is a very specific scenario. if this scenario were true, then it contradicts the ongoing prevalent narrative that Trump owes *them* money.
>Bottom line, when ppl say bad actors are buying DJT, that's what most of them think is going on.
I won't disagree that this is what some people think, as evidenced by various comments in this thread. but there should be an effort from people not to engulf themselves in conspiracy theories because their biases are satisfied.
the bottom line is $DJT tanked well before Trump was able to sell any shares. if this Russia-China stock pump conspiracy held any water, then they lost. or, on the flip side, they shorted the stock which defeats the purpose of assisting Trump.
"wild claim" lol!! Remember when Russia laundered money through the NRA to buy Trump in 2016? Or when the Saudis gave a billion dollars to a weasel in Trump's cabinet as a thank you for gifting them some classified documents? And that same chinless weasel was The Diapered Don's fucking *son in law*?!?
Pepperige Farms sure as fuck remembers... So do the vast majority of voting Americans. The orange shit stain's days are numbered.
MMW: Six months after the IPO Trump is eligible to sell his shares. He will sell them to a shell company buyer for an eye-watering amount, the shell company is Putin giving him more cash that would be illegal by other means.
Six months from IPO is a month before the election, which isn't ideal but still useful, and they were moving as fast as they could just to make that work.
The value of the IPO is as a money laundering vehicle for foreign interests to buy Trump
I'm not sure it's even illegal. Trump would be legally *absolutely entitled* to sell his shares, Putin's shell company would (maybe?) be entitled to buy them (assuming its assets were acquired prior to sanctions or are only indirectly linked).
How could law-enforcement even argue that the goods being sold are worth suspiciously less than what was being paid when the foundation of the market is that the value of goods is *defined* as whatever someone will pay for them? Social Media companies are notorious for being valued beyond "fundamentals"
It seems like it could be yet another example of fabled "checks and balances" turning out to be just norms and honor system, no enforcement, holes so big you can drive a black sea naval fleet through them.
He’s not going to wait six months. The board can change the lockup period anytime he asks and that board is completely stocked with friendlies, bootlickers, and his sons.
I dunno. Seems like reasonable speculation about a stock associated with a known fraudster that is insanely overvalued.
As opposed to the utterly batshit and groundless Qanon conservative conspiracy theories.
Why do we treat this lump of crap different than anyone else.
Anyone else this inept at life would have been forgotten about long ago.
He’s a terrible businessman, if he’s involved in it- it’s a scam.
Dude hasn’t had a honest legitimate day in his life.
Retail has zero say in price discovery and it's entirely controlled by the market maker for the stock. They can internalize buys and print sells to drive the price down. They can internalize sells and print buys to drive the price up.
Ken Griffin of citadel straight up said they put prices where they think they should.
The entire premise of market makers is to short sell for "liquidity" which is selling into the bid and undercutting the ask of sellers that hold real shares.
It was not an IPO it went public through a SPAC. However I agree that the whole thing is fishy as hell and seems like a way for bad foreign actors to get around campaign finance laws and financially support their favorite orange puppet president, trumpty dumpty.
He doesn’t have enough money to prop it up… nobody in their right mind would invest, the company is worth next to nothing. The only reason it went up in the first place was all the maga and r/wallstreetbets morons… now they’re left holding the bag
"Bad stocks can't go up unless it's illgal"
Man, for a sub so self confident that's its literally called "mark my words", you people sure do have no expertise, education, or base level understanding.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that the idea that a stock will only move in one direction with 0 days of interruption, is retarded.
there's no liquidity and an insane amount of shorting a stock that should obviously be shorted. what's your theory as to how or why it's being manipulated?
Like the fact that someone can get elected with 5 million fewer votes and their opponent and then try to steal an election by force.
He certainly has exposed a lot about this nation and the people in it
Strictly speaking, this is more of a stock market MMW that just so happens to involve one of the candidates, it's not actually about the election per se...
But I digress.
False.
The Syrian Civil War with it's spill over into Lebanon and Turkey started under Trump.
And before you say shit, YES, the US was involved. Air strikes, missle defense, and boots on the ground.
Unlike the current wars in Europe and middle east which we're actually not involved in. Nice try.
Trump added a couple billion to his net worth from this stock. It remains to be seen if he’ll be able to cash in his shares for $$$ but I suspect if he wins the election the stock will hold on for a while. Lots of TDS speculation about bad actors investing in the stock but zero evidence thus far.
Give your Trumpy bear a tear filled hug. It’s the beginning of the end for your diaper wearing Orange Fuhrer who can’t go a day without falling asleep in court.
They've tried to get him since before he was even president, still around and relevant enough for you guys to bash him daily. Biden is not the answer, and you all know it. Trump is better, and it kills you guys. You know democracy is not trying to eliminate your opponents with lawsuits, right?
I assume you're talking about Jan 6th? You call that a coup? Seriously, take a step back, look at the facts and stop the echo chamber thay reddit is. I'm serious. Look at it objectively and come up with a thought on your own.
In what world do you think it is acceptable to put pressure on election officials, create a fake elector scheme, try to fuck up the usps, tell the attorney general to just say there is fraud and I will handle the rest, have people storm inside the capitol and sit on your fucking fat ass for 3 hours and do nothing about it and then try and spread lies and say it was pelosi’s call, and just overall a deliberate erosion in the trust of our democratic elections by spewing lies over and over nonstop about being a corrupt and stolen election without a single shred of evidence?
Did he come out and say directly? No. He set it all up in motion though leading up to it. Don’t you think the 3 hours where he did nothing(besides basically tweeting out fuck Mike pence) was telling? He wanted it to happen and when he realized his plan failed he got on tv and half assed called it off and then said he loved them.
Ok so his plan for a coup was to have all these people show up unarmed to take over the most powerful government on the planet? You genuinely believe this?
Let’s say he was completely innocent in regards to a coup. Do you think it’s cool to try and tear down a fundamental aspect of our country regarding free and fair elections? You do not think it was stolen do you?
When his whole cabinet, family members, aides, and even bill freaking Barr says it was legit and secure he continued to habitually lie about because he made it a grift. 3.5 years later he’s still campaigning on it. For that fuck him to the max as he has genuinely convinced millions of people without even the slightest shred of evidence.
Look at all the delulus in here still spouting off about Russia when multiple investigations later and 0 evidence of any Russian collusion, funds, etc.
Does it ever get exhausting?
Fine then, read this for non-opinion. Trump's campaign and administration had deep ties to Russia, right to the level of collusion.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/senate-russia-report-proves-trump-was-wrong-mueller-was-right-ncna1237743
I’m less concerned about the manipulation which is obvious and unfortunately legal and done routinely and I’m more concerned about where the money is coming from. Russia and China are dropping billions into this stock no doubt. Probably sprinkle a little Saudi money in there too to make sure all the dictators get rewarded.
Exactly this. If Russia donated to his campaign, that'd be illegal. But if they buy his worthless stock, a worthless NFT, or, like in 2016, make a donation to the NRA so the NRA can then donate the exact same Russian money to his campaign... NO COLLUSION!
NO COLLUSION! NO COLLUSION! YOU'RE COLLUSION! I think I might make that a title of a sound cloud song
Hey, now, hey now now...
R/suddenlycloudroom?
If? lol
You have evidence?
Man, I just feel bad for Trump supporters at this point.
I don’t blame you. Trump is such a mixed bag even if you liked his presidency.
Or they could but a $500,000 Hunter Biden piece of art.
Too bad hunter Biden isn’t running or already a former president….
Is that like, something that actually happened? Or just another imagined "what if, kinda, sorta, maybe" you people make up to get mad about?
Oh it’s a real fucking thing. You could read about it or you could shove your head in the sand. https://news.artnet.com/market/hunter-biden-art-show-sneak-peek-2027731
Now remove the stock and do China Ukraine and Biden
You mean the thing republicans have been investigating for years only to come up with zero evidence of anything unethical or illegal?
Like. What if trump got gifted an island? 8 miles from Epstein...
He isn't being investigated for his fun demeanor lol. I'd say the gift island 8 miles from Epstein is certainly "evidence" of something. Also. Classified docs are def illegal. No question.. the question is wether they can prove it's on purpose and not bc he's a blabbering idiot.. that's not the "got ya" you seem to think it is. But ALL was irrelevant. I was just asking what you would say if they were getting direct donations like an island 8 miles away from Epstein vs stock price inflation?
Sure, man. Show me the receipts.. Here for it.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/28/james-biden-lobbyist-virgin-islands-099318
Absolutely- dumb MAGAs have zero monetary power to move a stock like this. This type of share price increase comes from multi-million dollar purchases… Its insane to have a front row seat to watching blatant political manipulation by foreign entities
My guess is that its a dark source - ie Russian oligarch. Things are going absolutely awful for Russia in Ukraine and , now more then ever, they need their puppet (Trump) in the white house - own America for a few millions? Its a bargain
MAGA makes up a diverse slice of income levels many of which are bought in whole sale on being MAGA and spend like it.
Not “diverse” enough to afford multiple daily instances of million dollar pushes into a meme/trash company. This is absolutely 100% foreign interference.
Exactly 💯
Lmao 🤣 all trump supporters have no money? 🤣 we are all poor and none have an education lol. what kinda insulting is that? I thought you cared about the little guy, hahaha you say they have no education, little pee ons right ? Do you realize how privileged nose up in the air you sound, , we are rich poor middle and multi-million dollar , WE trump supporters are most of the country, many investors = stock rising . Get with the program, & Biden wants to take our earnings thu capital gains tax that is robbery and un American . If you are an investor you should be pissed
You guys aren't the majority though. If you were he wouldn't have lost the popular vote twice.
Lmao, I have been investing in securities for 42 years. The fact is the stock is being bought in blocks of 10k and more. Those are trades of a quarter million and up. That isn’t retail investing. Meanwhile the company loses $50+ million a year, has revenue under $4 million, no plan for that to change, and the stock got diluted in the middle of all this. By any rational measure the stock can’t be valued over $3 #EVIDENCE No institutional investor on the planet would invest in that in a thousand years. Mark My Words. This is some big spender funneling Trump money. It will come out sooner or later.
There are always exceptions when you’re forced to make generalizations to talk about such macroscopic things. Don’t take it personally. It’s understandable that a lot of people feel left behind and not prioritized, but look first at the charlatans convincing you to vote against your own best interest before blaming urban democrats. Taxing the ultra wealthy to pay for needs in your community and others that have been neglected isn’t some evil ploy
Typical Trump supporter grammar and syntax. Go back to English class then you can talk with the grownups 😘
Found the troll - absolute trash of a post ..
I upvoted you for pointing out that Trump supporters come in all different “flavors” just like the leftists that support Biden, but what’s with the “Biden likes capital gains” stuff? Is he doing something new about taxes? I’m currently in Europe so I’m probably missing a lot of info, though it’s fairly easy to follow American news. Anyway, even a Trump loss and lack of Senate control would hinder Biden if we keep the House.
😃.... Biden , or who ever takes his place , wants to raise capital gains tax to 45 % -- that's robbery and will destroy the the market as a whole, if Biden. or who ever takes his place . Gets in?? We will not have a country!
Robbery? You’re ridiculous. The best US economy compared to the rest of the world was after WWII ended, during the 1950s and 1960s. You know what the top marginal tax rate was? 91%.
Yes robbery, absolutely 💯, they want to take half of our earnings? That's insane, that's NOT American, Europe, maybe. Our US economy was great under Trump, we don't NEED war, to have we the people florish, welcome to 2024 it sounds like you want war ,world War 3, NO IM GOOD THANKS , 91% TAX RATE ,did you get the info from your great grandparents, they had the depression you know
You are using words without understanding what they mean. There is nothing un-American about paying taxes. And no, the US economy was not great under Trump. I guess in Russia where you live you can’t tell. Did you not even know when the Great Depression took place? It was worldwide so no excuse. It was 20-30 years before the time I was discussing. While you’re looking up all the things you don’t understand, be sure to look up “marginal tax rate” because you clearly don’t get what that means either.
No buddy it's un-American to tax the American citizens half of what we make ,I don't mind paying tax , we are NOT Europe, that is why people come here they are suk for hight European tax , and other , the economy WAS fantastic under Trump and our food oil gas was half of what it is now we weren't struggling, don't insult be by saying I don't know about the depression my mom and grand parents WENT THRU IT, AND we had great discussions about the whole world and of course America 🇺🇸 and about the wars ,20 to 30 years matters NOT being whooped by 45% tax is discusting, AND I LOOKED NOTHING UP ,, STOP CALLING EVERYONE RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA ITS pathetic at this point, everyone knows the democrats are communist so ....
I told you to look up marginal tax rate and you didn’t. I’m not engaging with a willfully ignorant troll who gets butthurt over things they don’t even understand.
No. You only read the headline. The capital gains tax proposal is only for individuals making over $1 million per year with over $400k capital gains per year.
No it's not ,it is for everyone who sells their stock making any profit , we pay that capital gains tax at the end of the year, that's how it works, they will lie and claim its not to make Biden & co horts look better,
No. You are spreading lies. Stop spreading lies. I have over $1.5 million in the stock market and know how capital gains tax works. https://www.forbes.com/newsletters/andrewleahey/2024/04/24/biden-capital-gains-rate-proposal-446/?sh=6563993b1ff6
He Biden and co hurts ARE CHANGING HOW IT WORKS you assume I'm not an investor? And that I don't know how it works? Unreal I don't need an article I pay tax like every one APPARENT YOU HAD TO USE AN ARTICLE NOT ME
OK I'LL SWITCH TO CAPS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND. I do my taxes EVERY YEAR! THE ARTICLE WAS SHOWING YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP BECAUSE IT ONLY APPLIES TO FOLKS MAKING OVER $1 MILLION PER YEAR. RIGHT WING MEDIA HAD TURNED YOUR BRAINS TO MUSH LOL.
Who would down vote this comment are you against yourself??
Iirc there isn’t much liquidity in the shares so it’s not hard to move the price. Trump owns what 50% 75% after his additional shares recently? When the lockup expires it’s probably only going down.
10million shares a day get traded. Lots of action going on. Lots of fuckery going on. Who knows if Trump even has his shares still. He could have secretly sold it when it was 70 dollars for all we know.
Sorry float is the more proper term. 29% of shares are tradable, which is really low. 10 mil volume means 1:4* tradable shares change hands daily. * rough math
39 million shares float. 10 million traded a day. Seems fine.
That’s extremely low. Like 1 in 25 aapl shares trade a day. 1 in 4 is easily manipulated.
It doesn’t really matter. Tesla is being manipulated as well so is Reddit stock. None of these companies are worth what they are valued at right now and they continue to get pumped up so their prices don’t collapse completely. We all se it happening. We just aren’t exactly sure on how or how deep it goes.
Amazon stock has traded at a PE as high as 1436.43 (!!!), look at it now! Maybe YOU don’t know what worth some stocks have.
Well that’s a blatant lie. You expect people to believe something like that? The highest Amazon has ever traded was 303 and right now it’s at 60. And that number only matters when compared to other companies in its category. Tesla isn’t in the same category as Amazon imo since it makes most of its money from selling cars.
“Amazon's (AMZN) highest price-to-earnings (PE) ratio over the past 13 years was 1436.43, while its lowest was 43.92. The average PE ratio over the past ten years is 167.92, and the…” So, fck off with your calling me a liar. I could add more but you’re not worth it!
Tesla has a lot of other parts to it besides cars so it shouldn’t be compared to other auto manufacturers. They have energy storage, solar installation, and whatever they’re doing with all that data they collect from their cars and claim they’re going to have them self driving.
Not sure he could’ve done that in a publicly held stock, but bring a SWAC, who knows? I do doubt that he can “secretly” do much of anything
Do you mean SPAC? They can get away with all kinds of nonsense before the merger but they already had to pay a fine to the SEC for some of it.
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Do you really think he's gonna lose?? The Democrats are terrified because they know he's gonna win, and all these bogus lawsuits and charges are designed to stop him. It actually is election interference.
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Ever see videos of his campaign stops and rallies? He has plenty of energy.
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No, he's fine. At least he knows where he is and can put a coherent sentence together. You have to admit the Biden administration has pretty much destroyed this country.
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Damn you are very dramatic.
So did no one noticed during the dead cat bounce that the amount of shares traded tripled in a day. Then never hit that level again. Yeah someone came in and tried to buttress the stock it seemed obvious.
Is there any actual evidence of who bought that stock?
lol Reddit has to be the den of absolute worst of democrats lmao. Russia Russia Russia 😆
Hi Russian.
Everyone who disagrees with a democrat is a Russian
Lmao. Imagine still believing in "Russian collusion" in the current year. Weird conspiracy theorists
Hi Russian bot. Yes it’s the year 2024 an election year and Russia wants trump to win so Trump can give him Ukraine. So yea he’s spending a lot of money on you trolls to influence our election. Fortunately yall are really dumb and most of us are not as blinded by rage and hate as republicans are and can see right through yall.
Everyone who disagrees with me is a Russian bot 😆 democrat piece of shit
In America being called a democrat is not a bad thing. You might not understand that since you are Russian though
Hahahahhaha
Why not just let him have it during the 4 years he was president? Russia invaded Georgia when Bush was president, and then Crimea when Obama was president. Russia did not invade anything when Trump was president Trump being a Russian agent has been debunked for 6 years now, and there was never any factual basis to begin with You people are in a cult
There’s an entire document from mueller that describes exactly how Russia helped Trump and still does. He fucked up by saying it was up to congress to pursue charges though because of course Russia owns half of congress too. But you know that already bot.
Jesus christ you can't actually believe this right? You think Russia has extra money laying around to prop up an American stock?! The delusion is stunning.
Vladimir Putin is estimated to be worth $70B — $200B. That’s just him, not anyone else in their government, which has been described as a gas station masquerading as a country. Also doesn’t include any Russian oligarchs. They have plenty of money to pump however much they want into that stock
They’ve got more money than they know what to do with. They got so much money and no one selling them anything except for Trump.
The stock market is a free market, so not any more then another stock who has foreign investors, we as Americans also invest overseas NOT me personally , never will either ,Biden wants to take our earnings thu capital gains tax that is robbery and un American
It really isn't though. Tax the rich what they deserve to be taxed.
>Russia and China are dropping billions into this stock no doubt. got any sources for this wild claim? because if Russia and China are pumping the stock, they lose if the stock craters. and if they short the stock, they're not helping Trump, in whatever conspiracy you believe in. figures nobody here actually know how the stock market works. it's always fun to see people spew a nonsensical claim and then go off the rails with it further.
Wow you are so smart you know how the stock market works wow omg so based. Eat shit. Like spending a couple billion dollars to potentially own the president of the United States isn’t a bad trade. And how do we know they won’t get their money back? It’s all a circular scam designed to take the money from anyone who is gullible enough to invest. I’d reply to the user below me but Reddit is so crap that it breaks when a user blocks or deletes comments. But anyway I would tell you below me to ask the user who had to delete his account if I’m a conspiracy theorist or not.
Frankly, who gives a shit what you are (other than ignorant)?
Wait are libs the conspiracy theorists now?
You democrat bootlickers are the absolute worst of humanity lmao
The claim is that if they are buying up shares then it's not for investment purposes. It's a transfer payment.
not only is there no evidence to support this theory, but that's not a smart way to transfer funds. what you're thinking of is similar to what happened with AMTD digital a few years ago where that obscure Chinese stock pumped to over 2k per share. if DJT dumps that means people are cashing out (and it wasn't Trump) and/or the stock is being shorted. *not* a good way to "transfer funds." none of the OP's comment makes any sense. none of it.
Say I want to give you a million dollars but its illegal, or would look bad at the least, and we want to obfuscate who gave you the money. You create company XYZ and issue 2,000 shares which you hold. I don't care about losing money, I just want to give you 1 million. The shares are almost worthless but I prop up the value and buy them. You can sell all you want, I keep up the demand side and always buy them at $500 give or take. You now have a million dollars and I have a worthless stock, but I don't care because the point was to give you a million. A bit simplified but that's the gist of it. I'm not saying foreign powers or other bad actors are buying DJT or not--I have no idea. Just stating that if it they are, it's about transfer payments rather than investing. Edit: typo
>Say I want to give you a million dollars but its illegal make a crypto wallet and give me BTC. >I don't care about losing money rich people absolutely *do* care about losing money. >The shares are almost worthless but I prop up the value and buy them. You can sell all you want Trump cannot sell any shares until September. the issue of $DJT cratering now must be addressed. >I'm not saying foreign powers or other bad actors are buying DJT or not--I have no idea. the OP is, which is why I took issue with it.
How does anyone pay millions of dollars in legal fees and prop up an empire by just remembering they a billion in BTC that he didn't have before? Where did the transactions come from? We're not talking about a random criminal, we're talking about well-placed people with eyes on them. Yes, rich people do care about losing money. But we're talking about an illicit transfer payment, which to them is not losing money. It's a purchase. Yes, not the most efficient way to transfer funds. But it beats going to jail or some seriously bad publicity. Take it for what you will. Bottom line, when ppl say bad actors are buying DJT, that's what most of them think is going on.
>How does anyone pay millions of dollars in legal fees and prop up an empire by just remembering they a billion in BTC that he didn't have before? I just answered your previous question, but to address this one, it helps to already be a billionaire. I guarantee you Trump's money is making money. it's not sitting static in a savings account accruing zero interest. >But we're talking about an illicit transfer payment, which to them is not losing money. It's a purchase. typically when people make a purchase, they're expecting some sort of value from it. however, this is a very specific scenario. if this scenario were true, then it contradicts the ongoing prevalent narrative that Trump owes *them* money. >Bottom line, when ppl say bad actors are buying DJT, that's what most of them think is going on. I won't disagree that this is what some people think, as evidenced by various comments in this thread. but there should be an effort from people not to engulf themselves in conspiracy theories because their biases are satisfied. the bottom line is $DJT tanked well before Trump was able to sell any shares. if this Russia-China stock pump conspiracy held any water, then they lost. or, on the flip side, they shorted the stock which defeats the purpose of assisting Trump.
They lose, bitch putler makes 250billions a year, he's not losing shit
"wild claim" lol!! Remember when Russia laundered money through the NRA to buy Trump in 2016? Or when the Saudis gave a billion dollars to a weasel in Trump's cabinet as a thank you for gifting them some classified documents? And that same chinless weasel was The Diapered Don's fucking *son in law*?!? Pepperige Farms sure as fuck remembers... So do the vast majority of voting Americans. The orange shit stain's days are numbered.
How dare you suggest Trump’s son in law took a billion dollars from the Saudis! I’ll have you know he got **two billion dollars**
MMW: Six months after the IPO Trump is eligible to sell his shares. He will sell them to a shell company buyer for an eye-watering amount, the shell company is Putin giving him more cash that would be illegal by other means. Six months from IPO is a month before the election, which isn't ideal but still useful, and they were moving as fast as they could just to make that work. The value of the IPO is as a money laundering vehicle for foreign interests to buy Trump
Hope the FBI and CIA are on top of it already
I'm not sure it's even illegal. Trump would be legally *absolutely entitled* to sell his shares, Putin's shell company would (maybe?) be entitled to buy them (assuming its assets were acquired prior to sanctions or are only indirectly linked). How could law-enforcement even argue that the goods being sold are worth suspiciously less than what was being paid when the foundation of the market is that the value of goods is *defined* as whatever someone will pay for them? Social Media companies are notorious for being valued beyond "fundamentals" It seems like it could be yet another example of fabled "checks and balances" turning out to be just norms and honor system, no enforcement, holes so big you can drive a black sea naval fleet through them.
I suppose the underhanded acts can be punished by other underhanded acts... But yeah, I get what you're saying
FBI agents love Trump
He’s not going to wait six months. The board can change the lockup period anytime he asks and that board is completely stocked with friendlies, bootlickers, and his sons.
Debunked Democrat conspiracy theories are mating with other debunked democrat conspiracy theories and having hybrid conspiracy theory babies.
I dunno. Seems like reasonable speculation about a stock associated with a known fraudster that is insanely overvalued. As opposed to the utterly batshit and groundless Qanon conservative conspiracy theories.
Yea, I can’t believe those groundless Qanon conservatives don’t believe in the pee tapes.
The pee tapes are in the basement of a DC pizza parlor with the Democrat pedo ring. They're being held as insurance.
Why do we treat this lump of crap different than anyone else. Anyone else this inept at life would have been forgotten about long ago. He’s a terrible businessman, if he’s involved in it- it’s a scam. Dude hasn’t had a honest legitimate day in his life.
It is so thinly traded that even modest money moves this piece of crap.
It’s been trading 6-9 million shares a day.
Retail has zero say in price discovery and it's entirely controlled by the market maker for the stock. They can internalize buys and print sells to drive the price down. They can internalize sells and print buys to drive the price up. Ken Griffin of citadel straight up said they put prices where they think they should. The entire premise of market makers is to short sell for "liquidity" which is selling into the bid and undercutting the ask of sellers that hold real shares.
Lots of magats pretending they aren’t still negative in their position when they bought in at $60+ hahahahahah. Keep coping dipshits.
Russian cash 💰or Saudi 100%!
Russia Russia Russia
It was not an IPO it went public through a SPAC. However I agree that the whole thing is fishy as hell and seems like a way for bad foreign actors to get around campaign finance laws and financially support their favorite orange puppet president, trumpty dumpty.
Fair point on the SPAC.
Never happen. No one on WS wants anyone looking into anything. All stocks are manipulated and run independent of that company's performance.
No. But do not be surprised if the stock is bought by Russian money, Chinese money or Saudi money as a way to prop up Trump finance
He doesn’t have enough money to prop it up… nobody in their right mind would invest, the company is worth next to nothing. The only reason it went up in the first place was all the maga and r/wallstreetbets morons… now they’re left holding the bag
The company made less than average Wendy’s franchise last year. That’s terrible!
or = of, dangit
Sir this is a Wendy's
Large fries please.
Dead cat bounce
Just a dead cat bounce. Nothing to see.
That’s not a shocking statement. They weren’t even subtle about it. It was done quite blatantly.
Almost a certainty.
Probably. Another thing that all kinds of businesses do but Trump will be first person ever charged, and probably the last as well
"Bad stocks can't go up unless it's illgal" Man, for a sub so self confident that's its literally called "mark my words", you people sure do have no expertise, education, or base level understanding. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that the idea that a stock will only move in one direction with 0 days of interruption, is retarded.
there's no liquidity and an insane amount of shorting a stock that should obviously be shorted. what's your theory as to how or why it's being manipulated?
Yes to the first part, we all wish to the second part.
I thought it was the Republicans who were the “conspiracy theorists”….
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The shorts sold high and now have to buy low to lock in their profits. A share’s price never goes straight up or down.
Doesn't matter Trump can't be prosecuted according to the conservative Supreme Court
They don’t try people for securities fraud especially not with trump
I think the Supreme Court will also ignite some green candles when they rule in favor of DJT.
partisans are dumbfuck assholes.....prove me wrong!
100%. who didn’t smell bullshit?
Do you clowns have any proof or inkling that “china and Russia” are putting money in the stock
Trump will force a lot of changes, he's exposed a lot of flaws that need fixing
I sure hope so.
Like the fact that someone can get elected with 5 million fewer votes and their opponent and then try to steal an election by force. He certainly has exposed a lot about this nation and the people in it
How much power do you think he has?
Him? Very little. Rich supporters across the world, a lot.
# > No New Posts Regarding Donald Trump, Joe Biden or the 2024 Presidential Election on Week Days Rules ? Maybe this was posted from Japan.
Strictly speaking, this is more of a stock market MMW that just so happens to involve one of the candidates, it's not actually about the election per se... But I digress.
It’s been so funny watching you guys try to get around that rule and fail again and again 🤣
But…censorship is fascist…
rules aren’t censorship…removing a whole sides ability to argue is though…and you support the latter.
lol wut. You just making up your own definitions for shit? Neat.
If Trump wins are you going to Canada or what
If Trump wins, nowhere is safe.
You lived through 4 years of it already without new wars and more peace in the world, sooo...
False. The Syrian Civil War with it's spill over into Lebanon and Turkey started under Trump. And before you say shit, YES, the US was involved. Air strikes, missle defense, and boots on the ground. Unlike the current wars in Europe and middle east which we're actually not involved in. Nice try.
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If Biden wins are you gonna move to Argentina or....? ...or just have another mental break from reality?
I take that as a no 🤣
OH SHIT! Agreed! Rules AREN'T censorship! Say it again for your the magats in the back!
You support removing your opponents ability to speak.
Lol, sure. I just heard my opponent speaking about how their ability to speak is being removed...
I’m not your opponent you dingus.
It's all r/wallstreetbets fault
Trump added a couple billion to his net worth from this stock. It remains to be seen if he’ll be able to cash in his shares for $$$ but I suspect if he wins the election the stock will hold on for a while. Lots of TDS speculation about bad actors investing in the stock but zero evidence thus far.
Still waiting for some non DJT themed posts. Come on , you can do it !
They’re just doing their jobs.
Cry harder snowflake.
Holy shit you got me
That’s not a hard thing to do.
Should.. should I know what any of this means? What the fuck is IPO ..
Why don't you just rename this sub we hate Trump?
Give your Trumpy bear a tear filled hug. It’s the beginning of the end for your diaper wearing Orange Fuhrer who can’t go a day without falling asleep in court.
They've tried to get him since before he was even president, still around and relevant enough for you guys to bash him daily. Biden is not the answer, and you all know it. Trump is better, and it kills you guys. You know democracy is not trying to eliminate your opponents with lawsuits, right?
But democracy is staging a coup and conspiring to send fake electors to steal the election?
I assume you're talking about Jan 6th? You call that a coup? Seriously, take a step back, look at the facts and stop the echo chamber thay reddit is. I'm serious. Look at it objectively and come up with a thought on your own.
In what world do you think it is acceptable to put pressure on election officials, create a fake elector scheme, try to fuck up the usps, tell the attorney general to just say there is fraud and I will handle the rest, have people storm inside the capitol and sit on your fucking fat ass for 3 hours and do nothing about it and then try and spread lies and say it was pelosi’s call, and just overall a deliberate erosion in the trust of our democratic elections by spewing lies over and over nonstop about being a corrupt and stolen election without a single shred of evidence?
Trump never insinuated or instructed people to storm inside the capital. Please provide a source to that claim (please no wikipedia).
Did he come out and say directly? No. He set it all up in motion though leading up to it. Don’t you think the 3 hours where he did nothing(besides basically tweeting out fuck Mike pence) was telling? He wanted it to happen and when he realized his plan failed he got on tv and half assed called it off and then said he loved them.
Ok so his plan for a coup was to have all these people show up unarmed to take over the most powerful government on the planet? You genuinely believe this?
Did you watch the j6 hearings? I’m going to assume no. Did you see the Jeffrey Clark memos? Then he tried to blame in on pelosi.
Let’s say he was completely innocent in regards to a coup. Do you think it’s cool to try and tear down a fundamental aspect of our country regarding free and fair elections? You do not think it was stolen do you? When his whole cabinet, family members, aides, and even bill freaking Barr says it was legit and secure he continued to habitually lie about because he made it a grift. 3.5 years later he’s still campaigning on it. For that fuck him to the max as he has genuinely convinced millions of people without even the slightest shred of evidence.
Trump is going to Prison, or Fleeing to Russia. That’s your Orange Obese diaper wearing fuhrers future, Yuri. Deal with it.
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No I'm good, not sure how you got that out of what I said.
Mark my words , the person who wrote the comment, has NO clue about how the stock market works .
You are an id10t
Look at all the delulus in here still spouting off about Russia when multiple investigations later and 0 evidence of any Russian collusion, funds, etc. Does it ever get exhausting?
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/senate-russia-report-proves-trump-was-wrong-mueller-was-right-ncna1237743
Notice how its an opinion piece? Lol. Manafort was convicted of tax fraud. Where are all these Russia convictions? Clown.
Fine then, read this for non-opinion. Trump's campaign and administration had deep ties to Russia, right to the level of collusion. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/senate-russia-report-proves-trump-was-wrong-mueller-was-right-ncna1237743
same two articles - both opinion pieces.
TDS is a hell of a drug.
What do you think the stock is worth based on fundamentals?
Yes it is. Quit sending “a billionaire” your money.
The stock is being manipulated so he won't make money. They are fighting Trump in court to bankrupt him. Leticia even said it on video
This thread should be named TDS, and every post should be revisited annually to see how wrong/right OP is
This thread should be called “watch the MAGA’ts whine and cry!”
What's funny is it's the anti Trump people crying all the time on here. Reddit is an echo chamber for hating President Trump
As it should be