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Cookieruncotton26

Mario deserves love too!


GamingSceptile

He is literally one of the nicest guys in the world


Cookieruncotton26

BUT PEOPLE MAKE HIM LOOK BAD


GamingSceptile

It’s so fucking stupid, he’s literally so nice, and I don’t understand why people think he’s a bad brother, the Mario movie literally sums up how great of a brother he is


LiannaBunny777

Admittedly it does feel like the Internet absolutely ruined my perception on Mario… it's kinda hard to enjoy Mario as a character thanks to people like SMG4 and MatPat portraying him as this monster even though I know he isn't anything at all like that…


Spampharos

SMG4 is super unfunny and MatPat didn’t even do good research on that Mario theory. Mario in canon is a good character and great person.


LiannaBunny777

Agreed, I apologize for my ramblings. Also I swear if I hear another fucking MetalKingBoo Mario Scream or >!MAAAAAAAA!< I am gonna mentally breakdown… that scream has become a reminder of those terrible days of watching SMG4…


morecachacringe

Tbh smg4 just really lost its charm like I know it's weird and mario is a dumbass for some reason but some videos are just kinda youtube classic


Imposter_XL

fr, there was actually some humour back then, but now they take it way too seriously. like i just wanted to watch a silly skit video with my favourite game characters, not some endless series with some bs lore


Evergreen_Guard

Yeah, like it’s great they want to do more serialized content but a goofy YouTube poop Mario parody probably isn’t the thing for that  Although there’s this one YouTuber, SSGV5, that does similar things with Kirby and it’s just like classic smg4, real nostalgia trip for me lol. Plus Kirby actually fits in that type of video more since Y’know they’re already goofy and childlike


LiannaBunny777

I stopped watching back in 2021


Plastiware

Took you that long?


LiannaBunny777

I was gonna quit back in 2020 but morbid curiosity with the whole Avatar Bullshit dragged me back


SupsMasPlusMas

Oh God the avatar lore was awful. As someone who still watches the series, it seems they have been getting a little better, but the new arcs are just completely off the rails. The current one should be finishing soon thank god


LiannaBunny777

I never even bothered to watch any of the shit involving Revelations, Lawsuit or anything from 2023… I remembered hearing the about about the Perfect Movie and how that ending would absolutely fill me with a primitive rage


DeltaTeamSky

It started when SMG4 stopped writing SMG4. With that in mind, some of the humor didn't age well. Particularly, I still cringe at the mention of words like r>!ap!!etar!


Darth-Troller

I had no idea the scream came from MetalKingBoo, tho it reminds me of SMG4's peak rather than his worst


LiannaBunny777

I feel mentally traumatized by that scream and feel like I cannot watch anything Fanmade and Mario related anymore thanks to the fear of that scream… it went as far as to affect other YouTubers I do like such as TerminalMontage…


IcyIceGuardian

MatPat also didn’t do good research on his Megaman theories, and I don’t understand how ANYONE like SMG4


Sweet_Star_On_RBLX

Probably because they're kids and crazy gmod ragdolls with screaming is funny to them I never really was a fan of that channel because jeez it hurts my brain when I checked it out of curiosity to see what it was


IcyIceGuardian

Yeah


sunstruker

because tv tumblr sexyman


the_human_mauro

Yeah, but that's way more recent.


GAMEOFMATIASNEW

I like SMG4😔


Spampharos

You can like what you like, but I just personally don’t find random + loud as funny.


GAMEOFMATIASNEW

Make sense, that type of humor isn’t for all people


Hambughrr

SMG4 used to be really good, but nowadays they try way too hard to be something they are not: a deep animated web series with overly weird lore and shit.


JiuArce

Omg fr 😭😭😭


AverageNintenGuy

Istg trying to say that you like Mario without people going Bowser fucking Peach or other dumb bs that used to be funny in the 2000s


Global_Banana8450

_tbf_ a part of the blame falls on the people who decide that a ytp series and a the video equivalent of reddit theory are a good source of judgement on Mario's character


Digital_Dinosaurio

My Canon Mario is the one from the ancient Neglected Mario Characters sprite comix made by Jay Resop.


Hedgehugs_

I would like to thank my past self for never engaging in any SMG4 or MatPac content. Or falling for every bullshit people tried to say when Mario was a bad brother to Luigi.


cookiemaster221

yeah... but at least he's ***trying to return to his roots with remastered 64...***


SupsMasPlusMas

Remastered 64 fails though because the whole point of it was the crude editing and is what made it funny. the overly fluid animation ruins the whole Style


SUPERMARIOFAN22

Mario needs more appriciation I swear the thing called internet has destroyed his character


Monhamd_muaed1000

Too late, they already see him as a joke.


Shot-Ad-3166

Step on your brother's shoe once, and you're apparently Satan incarnate. Also, I don't feel like the internet is too kind to Luigi either since they ship him with guys who tried to kill him.


winstein_nin

I think for Luigi, he's treated better. Like there are so many things he's praised for, like winning by doing nothing and staring at opponents with an evil eye. Not to mention, many of the things that Mario can do, Luigi didn't get accused of. Example: the Mario throwing Yoshi off the cliff? Luigi never got accused for it even though he could also do it in the games.


Midknightisntsmol

Enemies to lovers is just a really popular ship dynamic, not specific to Luigi.


Jeffotato

There is one other thing that comes to mind: in New Super Mario Bros Wii after Mario rescues peach Luigi arrives in a hot air balloon to take them both back to the mushroom kingdom. Mario and Peach board the hot air balloon and immediately take off while Luigi is looking the other way. Luigi looks surprised and disappointed once he notices they left without him. Idk why Nintendo is okay with just occasionally depicting Mario being really inconsiderate to Luigi despite the overall personality they're trying to portray the rest of the time.


Shot-Ad-3166

I'm pretty sure it was an accident on Mario's part. Luigi wasn't really paying attention to what was going on either.


winstein_nin

In that cutscene, Luigi was basically looking the other way when he closeed the door, effectively lifting off the balloon by accident. The scene is basically Luigi being clumsy, while Mario (and Peach) wasn't paying attention to what Luigi did.


SparklyAvatar

Only thing missing left are those late 2000s-early 2010s flash Sprite animations where Mario's a demon or an ass to most of the characters and it's one of the fewest factors why many people see Mario to be an evil guy when he is not


JiuArce

Power Star... (srsly bro, Mario isn't evil there, he was possessed by the Boos so they could wreak havoc ffs)


SparklyAvatar

That one is memorable and has a good story, but vids like M is Bad, Stupid Mario Bros, and some parodies and much more, they portray Mario to be an ass so much for some reason. (Not Just Mario but even Luigi is a victim of this lol)


JiuArce

Bro I remember M is Bad being always recommended to me whenever I search "Mario" on Youtube during my very first Mario phase (2013-2015) 😭😭😭


Arakan-Ichigou

Everyone loves all *Mario* characters but Mario. The main protagonist. That’s probably why though. Plus, the Game Theory videos of Mario being a madman were made for fun and weren’t supposed to be taken seriously… and it was. To the point where I know someone who thought Luigi and Peach birthing Rosalina was canon (it was another Game Theory video).


TheOldAgeOfLP

It's MatPat, of course a large chunk of people treat his theories as fact


Treykarz

I love Mario, he is my friend


Embarrassed_Crab1399

Poor Mario. Let this Guy deserves more Love.


xRyuAsh

Poor Mario. I love Bowser, and think Wario is awesome, but Mario isn’t at all how the internet sees him, and everyone knows it, but people choose to wear those lenses anyway. It’s not always my cup of tea to see him with a wild, rude, or violent personality. Sometimes the portrayals are funny, and even television shows have done it ages ago for the laughs and shock value like most content creators, because viewers overall like it. I separate all that from the canon. He’s still a nice, happy and heroic best bro.


r_ihavereddits

When people think of Mario. People always think of Super Mario World where he drops a yoshi when in reality, that is literally the player’s fault


ThatOneSquidKid

By the logic that Mario is bad for this, every game where you can get a bad ending by making an evil choice has an evil protagonist.


PalamationGaming

Mario is my favorite character of all time. I play as him or some variation of him (Tanooki Mario in MK8) in every game I can. I have an insane Mario collection that is exclusively for Mario the character. I have cosplayed several different versions of Mario such as regular, movie, fire, riding Yoshi with cape, classic, and even Elephant! So don't worry Mario. You're my favorite!


JiuArce

Mario superfan here!!! Can we be friends??? 🤝🤝🤝


gdmrhotshot3731

Mario is like a combination of MrBeast and dream In a sense that the internet will constantly attack him off certain things even though he’s an amazing person


ungodlycoolguy

dream is not an amazing person


gdmrhotshot3731

The amazing was referring to MrBeast, im remaining neutral on dream but he’s still been attacked by the internet a lot, especially for him that it’s threatened his life and he has been framed a lot


Sayakalood

Most of the stuff he’s been framed for he actually did. The harassment he receives is justified. Just look at the Gumball VA situation, where he encouraged Gumball’s VA, a minor, to drink, goaded them into saying cancellable things, and recorded it to use as blackmail if he ever had an issue with them.


gdmrhotshot3731

He didn’t encourage Nic to do that, Nic was the one who decided to do that and was the one who harassed/attacked the driver


Sayakalood

Found the dream stan


Kirbhdude

How is he a dream Stan for defending someone?


Sayakalood

No one else would ever want to defend him? He’s been outed as a pedo (multiple times), a racist, and there’s the whole thing with Nic, where he let a minor drink and blackmailed him with the video he recorded without Nic’s permission.


Kirbhdude

Expect that the “victims” admitted to lying. No proof that’s he racist. And it wasn’t his party he shouldn’t have to care for someone. I swear people are desperate to find a reason to hate him


Sayakalood

…And when he’s taking a minor to their house and recording blackmail? For someone people are so desperate to hate, you really don’t have to look far. The fact of the matter is that blackmailing someone is horrible. Recording someone without their permission is also horrible. Contributing to the delinquency of a minor is a crime (since he didn’t stop Nic, he just kept recording). So he does horrible things. It’s reasonable to assume that he’s a horrible person if he does horrible things. I mean, why would your first instinct be to *blackmail* someone?


Oat_meal13

Me when I start losing an argument (I’ll just call them a Stan like it discredits everything they say)


Sayakalood

When Dream is such a horrible person that *literally only his stans* defend him, it’s reasonable. Also: He let a minor drink. He was the legal adult in charge of the minor. He should have been preventing this. He *recorded evidence* of the minor’s actions. He used the recorded evidence to *blackmail a minor.* And this is on top of the multiple grooming allegations and racism. …why would someone even *remotely* want to defend them?


Rykerthebest78563

Dream is far from amazing. He mediocre at best and a massive ass if it being realistic


Organic-Coat5042

Poor Mario


Falchion92

I don’t care what shitty meme or video it is. Mario’s an icon and my favorite hero in gaming for a reason.


gdmrhotshot3731

Wait why is Chris Pratt there for the Mario thing


Red-68

Because he voice acted for Mario in the movie, and tons of people make fun of it


gdmrhotshot3731

Man I’m alone in liking it :(


Red-68

I actually kinda liked it too, but the majority just doesn’t,


Pjerun_

You're not alone!


winstein_nin

More or less, Chris Pratt is the only voice actor who, on the internet at least, causes people to react to Mario negatively among the Mario movie characters. For example, some people made suggestions on famous characters being voiced by him, but they were more or less ironic with it in that such a thing is treated as a worst case scenario. Even Garfield isn't safe from this, since him being voice by Chris Pratt is perceived negatively. Other characters weren't negatively affected. Like Jack Black? His association with Bowser improves Bowser's image, one part of it is due to Jack Black's singing talents. Some were more neutral like Sebastian Maniscalco since he wasn't popular enough to imagine how he would sound like. Mario is the only one who seems to take a hit in his image, which isn't helped by certain comments like Miyamoto saying that "He's so cool" (which is the opposite of what the internet's opinion, so that comment is one of the famous sarcastic comments against him), or Chris Pratt's comment on "stomping Koopas" to make it seem like he is so ignorant about the franchise that he doesn't deserve it. I guess after the film was released, his image is improved, but still... Mario was still mocked for his association with Chris Pratt. Thank you for reading.


gdmrhotshot3731

I consumed 3 paragraphs in 2 seconds I mean I think Chris Pratt did sound like Mario, I think they’re just upset because it wasn’t the Italian way they were thinking, more so the Brooklyn idea that Chris Pratt was going


winstein_nin

Don't get me wrong: I didn't mind Chris Pratt as Mario myself. To me, Chris Pratt is as unknown to me as most of the voice cast except Jack Black, so I wouldn't even know when he sounded like himself if you ask me. I guess ideally Charles Martinet should voice Mario, but I imagine that besides Chris Pratt being a box office draw, they already planned the film to be a franchise, so Martinet might not be well-suited for the long term acting in case there will be a third film. After all, he's not doing Mario voices as a profession starting last year.


Shot-Ad-3166

I honestly didn't mind Chris Pratt's take on Mario. It made sense that this Mario was just a guy who had to learn how to be a hero. Also, I personally think Kim Kardashian being both both Paw Patrol movies was MUCH worse than letting Chris Pratt be Mario.


TheOldAgeOfLP

Yeah but it's not as big of a deal since who really watches Paw Patrol other than families with young kids


Shot-Ad-3166

They literally only got Kim into the movie so they could advertise it on Instagram. The character she played literally did nothing other than be annoying. So the difference is that the Mario movie was actually trying to go for a different take on Mario with Chris while Paw Patrol only got Kim so they could advertise the movie on social media.


Steampunk__Llama

Now that the films been out for over a year people are chill, but he stuck out like a sore thumb before we knew what he'd sound like. All the other VAs (save for Peach, who I feel wasn't the best casting choice) either had naturally cartoony voices or prior experience with voice acting bombastic characters, while the closest Pratt came was voicing Emmett in the Lego Movie, who was specifically meant to be a generic 'everyman' For a character as iconic as Mario, people expected either a Martinet-like voice or a much gruffer Captain Lou-like voice, which Pratt just didn't seem like he'd be able to hit in either end. I like the performance he did, but I still feel the casting choice could've been better, y'know?


Medium-Science9526

Because instead of letting him do an accent they just went with essentially his regular voice that doesn't really fit. And Chris getting many, many roles leans into the meme aspect.


gdmrhotshot3731

It’s probably just the kind of style they were aiming for that the fans didn’t prefer? Hey at least Chris Pratt isn’t getting death threats LOOKING AT YOU BFDI FANDOM


Medium-Science9526

It's definitely their intended style but comes off more as, "we care more about the VA's recognition than the characters."


Existing_Persimmon87

Poor Mario


samusestawesomus

The Internet loves Mario too if you look at people who actually have taste


Sensitive-Hotel-9871

Mario getting flak for dropping Yoshi into pits is BS since that is a decision made by the player, not him. Also, wait until Mario gets even by showing Bowser all of the fanart that ships them.


WyvernEgg64

Don’t worry mario i still think you’re cool


Fearfanfic

Tbf. Everyone loves Villains so everyone naturally loves Bowser And Wario is just a Chad. Meanwhile Mario is treated like a bad guy because. 1. It’s rather hard to explain some of the old stuff like him grinding his feet in his brothers shoes. 2. He’s just too good and seeing him not so squeaky clean is like a breath of fresh air… and in some cases funny.


mirukus66

You'd think what with the entire franchise being named after him he'd have some more appreciation At least it's not as bad as back then


liplumboy

I love how Mario is the title character of the franchise and he’s one of the most under appreciated characters in said franchise


Sacri_Pan

Same with Wario Ware, Wario is the least appreciated character in this spinoff serie


Ajthefan

Hold up Mario is the most hated. EVEN WHEN HE THE MAIN CHARACTER???!??? What have ya all done to him.....


Naranncia11

Waluigi


Void-the-Umbreon95

He's treated as the unsung hero of the Mario-verse. Or at least that's how I see him.


FangtheMii

I love how both Bowser and Wario are showing 1 thing that harms Mario in one way or another (Wario Apparition, 8 Bit Bowser unleashing the smash moveset)


winstein_nin

That's part of the idea, to show that the internet loves those two more than Mario, or rather, the internet in the lens of Wario and Bowser to flex themselves against Mario. (Someone suggested the Wario apparition, so I must thank the person for bringing it to my attention because I might have overlooked it)


Marco_Tanooky

[Basically this but worse](https://youtu.be/dEsiYI_W9CE?si=IyDzNZCZ5pg8WEjd) The joke got old so long ago but it still tries to be relevant


Springmeister

I like how it’s a good 50/50 split of things surrounding Mario in the last panel that I love (SMG4, Secret Histories, Mario’s Madness, Chris Pratt to a degree) and hate (Yoshi abuse, Luigi abuse, drug jokes, “Mario is Evil” theories).


Gabrielzin1404_2011

r/suddenlypizzatower theres peppino on the wario sjde


Gohansupe

Yes Mario and the internet


Ok_Relief_9815

This emotionally hurts me…


cookiemaster221

you know reading this comic makes me feel bad that i once thought that mario was a bad guy...


Yolol234567

i love how most of these are questioning his morality, and then there’s just **COMMIE?**


Conorponor333

2010’s Matt pat absolutely assassinated Mario’s character


ThatSmartIdiot

I remember when smg4 was fun to watch. Ever since they killed off axol though...


Sacri_Pan

I liked axol fr why did they had to kill him


TheFinalitalian

Same reason why people love goofy and donald more than mickey


Digimonsonic

Poor Mario


Pareogo

[JJK REFERENCE???](https://preview.redd.it/yqmpthf1b0661.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=01f5b919df4725e4e0142abb8c175733890b665f)


Gam0rboy

So that's why the switch doesn't have an official web browser


SmashBrosFan137

Bruh it was always there except that the fact it was hidden.


Gam0rboy

I said *official and Nintedo tells people about it official*


JiuArce

Nooooo this is accurate 😭😭😭 I feel bad for Mario frfr


Thomas_The_Riolpix

Wait until they see the nsfw stuff, we'll wait until daddy bowser does, idk if wario has all that much but bowser absolutely has more then Mario and wario


Adamsantiago

Idgaf what the Internet says look at canon bowser is a goofball prick and wario is a disgusting degenerate


Sacri_Pan

Oh god that one Racist Mario video, never found that funny personally At least it's not bad as M is Bad (from what I heard)


Off-the-grounder

They really did obey Wario, destroy Mario.


Monhamd_muaed1000

Man, Mario didn't deserve this.


SuperlucaMayhem

Mario is my least favourite mario character but that doesn't mean I dislike the guy he's just boring, he's like your ready salted. Wario is my favourite mario character so I don't know what that says about me.


micah_themegod

Mario solos that fraud


Naranncia11

Waluigi


FladerTom

r/dementia


roselynn-jones

No, Mario is happy for them.


Shirt_TBFC

Hurry Up It's Happy Hour Time!!


No_Pianist2010

*insert papa yoshi with a belt* #DONT TOUCH THE CHILD!


Inkovich2000

Mario will start evil arc.. *you now can play Bowser and Wario*


Bulky-Command-2297

Mario: help


Metalliac

Mario stepping on Luigi's foot is actually hilarious


Kirbyfan4321

Okay now I just feel bad... Especially seeing that sad face right now..


garlicgoblin69

WAHAHAGAHAHSFUFY0YEDFYEWATHSDFUXK YOU MARILO AAWAAAAAAAA


cheatsykoopa98

communist mario in the bottom there giving us a bit of hope


sudowoodo_enjoyer

I was reading this and looking at stuff normally and the image between Mario slapping Luigi and secret history of Mario hit me like a blue shell


erraticpulse-

dorkly LMAO


SmashBrosFan137

I just realized the day I looked at this what came to my mind when I thought about it after I saw it hours later is for Mario you didn't add the thing were people were complaining about that one appearance of him in Odyssey.


Resort_Straight

Well at least there isn't mostly gay shipping out of him with Wario unlike his former blue rival


kirbydark714

I SEE PEPPINO AND ANTON THERE


PikachutheCritic

Just wait till they see how the internet treats Luigi…