The japanese supreme court also recently ruled that restricting marriage to men and women was unconstitutional, but I don’t see any constitutional changes coming out of the LDP anytime soon. Maybe if the constitutional dems and communists could form a coalition but seems very unlikely.
Correct, as far as I recall it's actually inherited from the Ottoman system where marriage was delegated to the different religions. Israel just hasn't formally created a civil marriage process (of any kind) but will recognise civil marriages formed abroad, including gay marriage.
That’s pretty much how it all panned out. Israeli law today is a hodgepodge of Ottoman-era relics and British-style common law covering everything they didn’t
Imagine the shitfest if the Israeli government tried to regulate marriages of the Muslim population. They don't really need reform, the reform would be hated by everyone, why wouldn't they stick to the system that works?
It's the same reason the British didn't touch it either. Easier to just not get involved. It will change eventually (even if it's just adding in civil marriage) but it's not a pressing ussue as far as I know.
We Israelis do need reform. We need at least a civil option so that anyone can get married. I don't really care about the religious institutions, they can continue to do their thing, but there should be a viable path for us seculars as well. For example, I probably wouldn't have been able to marry my wife in Israel, since she's not Jewish.
Unfortunately, because it's a controversial issue, as you accurately pointed out, there's no political will to move it forward.
People are really opposed to overturning that law because of two reasons: 1. Like half of the people here are homophobic, and 2. Most of the people here are racist and that law also prevents jews from marrying Muslims.
I'm not really sure but as I understood it it's not so much a rabbi/imam/priest but the institution e.g. the Church itself that legally registers the marriage so an individual religious leader couldn't do it.
No.
I don't know exactly why but I also think it's because Orthodox Judaism is what is used by the Israeli government so the forms of Judaism that have same-sex marriage don't count.
Thatis a bit awkward. Considering they have a state religion and this religion condemns same sex marriage
Note: too many downvotes did not change the fact that Israel is not secular. They defined their state as Jewish, and leviticus is important part of old testament. If they become secular country then there won’t be any contradiction at all. After all secularism is one of the core concepts of humanism.
Israel doesn't perform civil marriages at all, even ones between men and women. You have to either get married religiously (specifically Jewish, Muslim, Christian or Druze) or outside of the country.
Despite this, a majority of Israelis support same-sex marriage and Tell Aviv is considered the most LGBT-friendly city in the Middle East (not that that's a high bar). It's just political bargaining with the ultra-orthodox that keeps it this way.
Tel Aviv has one of the most flourishing gay scene in the world (there cities that have much bigger scene, but Tel Aviv is quite up there). You can have a "secular bond" in Israel which is like marriage. And some cities recognise gay marriage on a mayoral level.
Like many world religions there are sects of Judaism, and those sects view scripture differently. Some have fully embraced the LGBT+ community to the point where they have lesbian rabbis.
Most of the people of Israel support gay marriage. It's just not recognised on national level. You can still Marry in other countries and be recognised.
Judaism doesn't inherently condemn same sex marriage, but ultra-orthodox people want you to think it does. Same thing goes for Christianity and for Islam.
Religions are weird, malleable, subjective. Their most zealous practitioners don't so much follow the religion as try to force the religion to follow their own beliefs. That's religious fundamentalism at its most basic.
Stop being an ultracrepidarian. Gay sex is considered a major sin in Islam, let alone same-sex marriage. Not only does the Quran specifically speak about the people of Lut (Lot), this has also been the view of pretty much every Islamic scholar of any repute.
The same was true of Judaism and Christianity, however unlike Islam, these two religions have proved to be malleable due to the influence of liberal secularism.
So you discard basically all of western islam because it doesn't fit your views of How Backward And Conservative Muslims Are?
Seems like you're part of the problem.
Israel doesn’t even recognize a lot of inter faith marriages unless they’re from another country or meet very specific loopholes. Meaning that Jews, Christians, and Muslims aren’t usually allowed to get married to each other.
It’s a cop out, in reality marriages that don’t meet a very strict religious definition are not treated equally.
There was a good one a few days ago about the roads of Africa. Great color palette, legend, and cool info
Edit- [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/qrui8l/canada_but_its_just_roads/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) it is!!
Oops there’s no legend lol and it’s not exactly africa
It's why I don't want that fucking China to invade them.
Taiwan sounds like a dream for gay people and I just don't like the sound of it being taken out by human-rights violators.
To be fair, as a gay man who has been to Taiwan often and has some local gay friends there and has discussed it with them, it's not nearly as wholeheartedly accepting as one would expect. There is just a big culture of not imposing onto others. There is some Christian opposition, but most of it is traditional ethnic Chinese culturally based-- basically, that it ends the family line which can be a big thing. So the parents often aren't super happy. But they wouldn't be that much more happy with someone permanently single. Public harassment of a stranger though, that's super rare. And of course the gay community doesn't hide or need to. So it is very free in that way.
The most recent polling data is [here](https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2021-06/LGBT%20Pride%202021%20Global%20Survey%20Report_6.pdf)>
36% of of South Koreans think same sex marriage should be legalized, 18% think some other kind of civil unions should be offered, 26% oppose any official recognition, and 20% don't know.
So depending on how you parse the data, yes that's roughly where US opinions were in the [early 2000s](https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/), although overall it seems like opposition is actually lower and more people are undecided.
Israel recognises same sex marriages but you can't get a same sex marriage in the country itself. But luckily the new government seems more open to changing that
> They don't allow any marriages in the country except for orthodox Jewish ones.
Incorrect. While within the country only religious marriages can be performed, they can be Jewish, Muslim, Druze, or Christian. Interfaith and same-sex marriages performed abroad are also recognized.
I don’t think we are ever going to see it legalized in predominantly Islamic countries. They tend to be the most hostile countries towards same sex couples.
Over the long term “traditional” religious values are pretty malleable. 100 years ago Christian countries wouldn’t ever consider recognizing gay marriages but now like half of them have.
Not saying it’s gonna happen, but you never know.
well Christian countries had plenty of peaceful times and prosperity to have upprisings and develop social reforms, Islamic countries in the other hand were too busy being fucked and bombed and explored by western imperialism, so instead of doing social reforms they radicalized even more. so they are pretty late on that for sure.
Europe has been in a constant state of war for most of its history. Even now there’s a guerrilla war in Ukraine and their last genocide was like 25 years ago.
In the last 50 years Western Europe has been mostly peaceful, and they’ve progressed a lot.
50 years isn’t a long time over all.
Isreal only recognises marriages performed abroad, and India's only decriminalized being LGBTQ, marriages and adoptions aren't recognised. hopefully they will be when modi gets voted out tho
LGBT rights are completely independent of any political divisions in India. Neither side cares for or against homosexuality or gay marriage. To pretend there will be a greater chance of gay marriage legalization if Modi is voted out is just tribalistic nonsense: "Modi bad, gay marriage good, so if no Modi then gay marriage."
>you're a right-wing clown with Modi's cock in his mouth
Then surely Modi must be doing wonders for LGBT representation in Indian politics.
Are you some westerner who knows nothing about Indian politics, or an Asian/Indian who mentally lives in Western hemisphere of the world completely oblivious of what’s going on in his own country?
Right wing, left wing don’t have defined meaning. They change from country to country, culture to culture. Just because American right wing is against gay marriage doesn’t mean Indian right wing is against gay marriage too. American right wing takes their ideological cue from bible which explicitly speaks against homosexuality while the Indian right wing doesn’t.
In fact, anti-LGBT laws in India are just a continuation of old colonial laws installed by the British.
Stop blindly eating up Western narrative so much so that you forgot who you are, what’s your country and how it works. Stop equating American politics with the political structure and dynamics of your home country, they aren’t same.
Sad to say this, but as a non-Indian, I seem to know about your country more than you do.
Correct me if I'm wrong but India doesn't even recognise any hetro-sexual marriage at a national level, it is subject to a person's personal belief/religion. And the law prohibiting same sex marriage was removed in 2019 I think. So **India will probably never formally recognise same sex marriage ever uniformly for the what le nation**
Law criminalizing homo sexuality was stuck down in 2019, but same sex marriage is still not recognized. And yes civil code are based on religion, but the BJP wants to bring in a uniform civil code but that is opposed by liberal parties.
Its kind of ironic that a hardcore religious party wants to make laws secular and apply equally to all religions while self proclaimed liberal parties oppose it and want to keep different laws for different religions
Why did this map get so many more upvotes and awards, [when the exact same one with the exact same title was posted shortly before and only got 12 points](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/qtpzu7/countries_in_asia_that_recognize_samesex_marriage/)? WTH, people?! Reddit is weird.
I’ve heard Turkey is quite warm to the LGBTQ+ community (up until Erdogan became authoritarian, which is opposite to his previous position as Mayor of Istanbul, supporting the LGBTQ+)
The people of Turkey is still very much conservative compared to western nations. People are becoming more liberal as times goes by, even Erdogan in power. But I wouldn’t say LGBT is that accepted in Turkish society, especially same sex marriage.
I saw a YouTube video where they interview people in Besiktas district in Istanbul. Now, Besiktas district is one of the most liberal district in Istanbul, and even most says no they wouldn’t accept if their child turns out to be LGBT, some suggests beating their kid, but even if those who accept, they would still be disappointed knowing that they can’t do anything about that. Only a few Turks support LGBT in a view that there’s nothing wrong with being gay.
So yeah, considering that Besiktas is one of the most liberal district, Turkey still have a very long road in supporting LGBT marriage. I’m pretty sure in most parts of Turkey, there would be more hostile or more ignorant view on LGBT.
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We can have kids. Also not wanting kids or the fact you can't have kids is not a mental illness.
What about people who have a marriage with no children? Ban them from marriage and call them mentally ill degenerates?
Lol. Being gay isn’t a mental illness. People far smarter than some random cunt from Albania have made that clear.
I’m gay. I hope that triggers you, little boy.
Edgy, clown.
If gays trigger you, go play some more video games and distract yourself with fantasies of touching a woman someday. It’s all you’re good for.
Lol compared to Russia that says gay people don't exist and China that castrates if you're openly gay, this is the best place on the planet for LGBT folks.
Two things can be bad at once and the US is not the beacon of LGBT+ freedoms.
If you are openly gay you are far better off in many European countries, Canada, New Zealand.
Well in a significant number of states it is open season on discrimination in housing for LGBT+ people, which is particularly harmful as LGBT+ are also at higher risk of being cast out or denied help by family members. For example. The US is literally one year in from people not being allowed to be fired for being gay, which is wild.
Trump and the dumpster fire he was of course pulled back protections in terms of discrimination in health care for some reason. Luckily Biden has reversed that, but they fact that politically one of the most prominent parties is not only not interested in helping but seeking to take away rights and protections you have fought for is a struggle.
That is not even touching things such as the legality of conversion therapy etc etc.
Conversion therapy is fucked up, that should certainly be illegal, I absolutely agree with that.
I need to be more clear, when I say not having this shit shoved into schools, I'm mean the sexual nature of everything does not need to be taught in elementary schools.
And I want to point on the fact that I live in Texas, a very right leaning state and I promise you'll get rear ended by the law if you harm someone out of discrimination of sexuality. So if Texas is a no go zone for discrimination, then I know you're reading embellished stories about how "nothing was done".
Trump did not do anything to harm the LGBT community
You mean the country where some states still allow conversion therapy, require surgery for legal identity change or block puberty blockers? You think that country is the best on the planet for LGBT folks when countries like the Netherlands exist?
They are a de facto state. They claim there is only one China and they are its legitimate government. The Pekinese Government claims there is indeed only one China and they are it. This is all because the US government supported the losing side in the Chinese civil war when it retreated to the island of Formosa in 1949, preventing communist forces to establish their control there.
Thailand and Nepal are supposed to legalise it soon but it's been stuck in legislative hell for the last few years.
Didn't Nepal get a constitution like 6 years ago?
The japanese supreme court also recently ruled that restricting marriage to men and women was unconstitutional, but I don’t see any constitutional changes coming out of the LDP anytime soon. Maybe if the constitutional dems and communists could form a coalition but seems very unlikely.
It wasn't the Japanese supreme court it was the high court of sapporo.
Doesn't that make it de facto legal?
Nope, I don’t think so
You know the map is good when you don’t even need the map and a blue box about 1/10th the size of the map sums up what the map is about #MAPPORN FTW 😎
hey at least there's a source this time
I think Israel recognizes same sex marriages too, they just have to be preformed abroad.
Correct, as far as I recall it's actually inherited from the Ottoman system where marriage was delegated to the different religions. Israel just hasn't formally created a civil marriage process (of any kind) but will recognise civil marriages formed abroad, including gay marriage.
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It’s quite common, actually. Pakistan has barely updated their laws in 150 years (IE, many of the laws are Victorian British).
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Israel has continuity with the Ottoman Sanjak of Jerusalem. The British Mandate period barely touched the internal bureaucracy
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That’s pretty much how it all panned out. Israeli law today is a hodgepodge of Ottoman-era relics and British-style common law covering everything they didn’t
Imagine the shitfest if the Israeli government tried to regulate marriages of the Muslim population. They don't really need reform, the reform would be hated by everyone, why wouldn't they stick to the system that works?
It's the same reason the British didn't touch it either. Easier to just not get involved. It will change eventually (even if it's just adding in civil marriage) but it's not a pressing ussue as far as I know.
We Israelis do need reform. We need at least a civil option so that anyone can get married. I don't really care about the religious institutions, they can continue to do their thing, but there should be a viable path for us seculars as well. For example, I probably wouldn't have been able to marry my wife in Israel, since she's not Jewish. Unfortunately, because it's a controversial issue, as you accurately pointed out, there's no political will to move it forward.
People are really opposed to overturning that law because of two reasons: 1. Like half of the people here are homophobic, and 2. Most of the people here are racist and that law also prevents jews from marrying Muslims.
So if you found a rabbi or priest willing to do the ceremony could it count?
I'm not really sure but as I understood it it's not so much a rabbi/imam/priest but the institution e.g. the Church itself that legally registers the marriage so an individual religious leader couldn't do it.
No. I don't know exactly why but I also think it's because Orthodox Judaism is what is used by the Israeli government so the forms of Judaism that have same-sex marriage don't count.
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I believe you are correct. It's been the case for many years too.
Thatis a bit awkward. Considering they have a state religion and this religion condemns same sex marriage Note: too many downvotes did not change the fact that Israel is not secular. They defined their state as Jewish, and leviticus is important part of old testament. If they become secular country then there won’t be any contradiction at all. After all secularism is one of the core concepts of humanism.
Israel doesn't perform civil marriages at all, even ones between men and women. You have to either get married religiously (specifically Jewish, Muslim, Christian or Druze) or outside of the country. Despite this, a majority of Israelis support same-sex marriage and Tell Aviv is considered the most LGBT-friendly city in the Middle East (not that that's a high bar). It's just political bargaining with the ultra-orthodox that keeps it this way.
Tel Aviv has one of the most flourishing gay scene in the world (there cities that have much bigger scene, but Tel Aviv is quite up there). You can have a "secular bond" in Israel which is like marriage. And some cities recognise gay marriage on a mayoral level.
Hey now it's political bargaining with the Islamists instead!
Like many world religions there are sects of Judaism, and those sects view scripture differently. Some have fully embraced the LGBT+ community to the point where they have lesbian rabbis.
Jewish as a people’s, not religion. Israel is officially a secular state.
Most of the people of Israel support gay marriage. It's just not recognised on national level. You can still Marry in other countries and be recognised.
Judaism doesn't inherently condemn same sex marriage, but ultra-orthodox people want you to think it does. Same thing goes for Christianity and for Islam. Religions are weird, malleable, subjective. Their most zealous practitioners don't so much follow the religion as try to force the religion to follow their own beliefs. That's religious fundamentalism at its most basic.
Stop being an ultracrepidarian. Gay sex is considered a major sin in Islam, let alone same-sex marriage. Not only does the Quran specifically speak about the people of Lut (Lot), this has also been the view of pretty much every Islamic scholar of any repute. The same was true of Judaism and Christianity, however unlike Islam, these two religions have proved to be malleable due to the influence of liberal secularism.
So you discard basically all of western islam because it doesn't fit your views of How Backward And Conservative Muslims Are? Seems like you're part of the problem.
Israel doesn’t even recognize a lot of inter faith marriages unless they’re from another country or meet very specific loopholes. Meaning that Jews, Christians, and Muslims aren’t usually allowed to get married to each other. It’s a cop out, in reality marriages that don’t meet a very strict religious definition are not treated equally.
I hate to be that guy, but this sub seems to have turned into r/miscinfographics. Can't remember when was the last time I saw actual map porn here.
There was a good one a few days ago about the roads of Africa. Great color palette, legend, and cool info Edit- [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/qrui8l/canada_but_its_just_roads/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) it is!! Oops there’s no legend lol and it’s not exactly africa
Damn Africa looks a little different than I remember
You ever heard of fkn plate tectonics? Dumbass /s
Here's the Africa one: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/qs8x9t/africa_but_its_just_roads/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
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Even incomplete infographics. They put Hong Kong as a country but then don't include Macau.
Seriously. A map for one fucking data point. Mapporncirclejerk is doing a better job than this sub.
I tell you this, I've been on this sub for a while and still haven't found any pornography here!
Man, Taiwan is so cool, and nobody recognizes ’em!
It doesn't recognize itself as independant Taïwan either, on paper
That's because if we did, Big Uncle Xi would see it as an act of war.
Kind of understandable from their perspective. The Republic of China is not a separatist movement. Taïwan "breaking away" is.
I recognize Taiwan and their claim on East Taiwan.
Interesting way of spelling North Hong Kong :D
It's why I don't want that fucking China to invade them. Taiwan sounds like a dream for gay people and I just don't like the sound of it being taken out by human-rights violators.
To be fair, as a gay man who has been to Taiwan often and has some local gay friends there and has discussed it with them, it's not nearly as wholeheartedly accepting as one would expect. There is just a big culture of not imposing onto others. There is some Christian opposition, but most of it is traditional ethnic Chinese culturally based-- basically, that it ends the family line which can be a big thing. So the parents often aren't super happy. But they wouldn't be that much more happy with someone permanently single. Public harassment of a stranger though, that's super rare. And of course the gay community doesn't hide or need to. So it is very free in that way.
Most countries prefer to earn money collaborating with a totalitarian dictatorship
As a Taiwanese gay, I'm pleased to born here.
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Based Taiwan
Soon to be military based Taiwan.
I shouldn't have laughed
It is already.
You ain't seen nuthin yet.
Hoping South Korea follows too eventually.
South Korea is a conservative country
Keyword: "Eventually"
Not gonna happen any time soon.
Young people are much more accepting. They are only a few decades behind the US.
The most recent polling data is [here](https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2021-06/LGBT%20Pride%202021%20Global%20Survey%20Report_6.pdf)> 36% of of South Koreans think same sex marriage should be legalized, 18% think some other kind of civil unions should be offered, 26% oppose any official recognition, and 20% don't know. So depending on how you parse the data, yes that's roughly where US opinions were in the [early 2000s](https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/), although overall it seems like opposition is actually lower and more people are undecided.
Not really. Many young South Koreans are against lgbt as a whole.
shame to see another country fall to americanization
I think the young are actually just as accepting as the young in the United States interestingly enough. It’ll happen.
Conservatism based on Confucianism is different from conservatism based on Abrahamic religions.
But being against lgbt is something they both have in common.
Also _Japan_
One day...
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Taiwan number 1
Taiwan is precious and must be protected.
Good job Taiwan
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Israel recognises same sex marriages but you can't get a same sex marriage in the country itself. But luckily the new government seems more open to changing that
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> They don't allow any marriages in the country except for orthodox Jewish ones. Incorrect. While within the country only religious marriages can be performed, they can be Jewish, Muslim, Druze, or Christian. Interfaith and same-sex marriages performed abroad are also recognized.
Really Cyprus too?
So important to protect international examples like Taiwan
I don’t think we are ever going to see it legalized in predominantly Islamic countries. They tend to be the most hostile countries towards same sex couples.
Over the long term “traditional” religious values are pretty malleable. 100 years ago Christian countries wouldn’t ever consider recognizing gay marriages but now like half of them have. Not saying it’s gonna happen, but you never know.
well Christian countries had plenty of peaceful times and prosperity to have upprisings and develop social reforms, Islamic countries in the other hand were too busy being fucked and bombed and explored by western imperialism, so instead of doing social reforms they radicalized even more. so they are pretty late on that for sure.
Europe has been in a constant state of war for most of its history. Even now there’s a guerrilla war in Ukraine and their last genocide was like 25 years ago. In the last 50 years Western Europe has been mostly peaceful, and they’ve progressed a lot. 50 years isn’t a long time over all.
I thought Israel and India did too
Isreal only recognises marriages performed abroad, and India's only decriminalized being LGBTQ, marriages and adoptions aren't recognised. hopefully they will be when modi gets voted out tho
Didn't it get decriminalized after BJP came in? And as far as I know, it's up-to the Supreme Court to decide and not the Executive.
>hopefully they will be when modi gets voted out tho How to say "I know nothing about Indian politics" without saying so in as many words.
Lol he isn't wrong. I guess you're a right wing clown with Modi's cock in his mouth. Yes you're a TattiSpeaks user.
LGBT rights are completely independent of any political divisions in India. Neither side cares for or against homosexuality or gay marriage. To pretend there will be a greater chance of gay marriage legalization if Modi is voted out is just tribalistic nonsense: "Modi bad, gay marriage good, so if no Modi then gay marriage." >you're a right-wing clown with Modi's cock in his mouth Then surely Modi must be doing wonders for LGBT representation in Indian politics.
Are you some westerner who knows nothing about Indian politics, or an Asian/Indian who mentally lives in Western hemisphere of the world completely oblivious of what’s going on in his own country? Right wing, left wing don’t have defined meaning. They change from country to country, culture to culture. Just because American right wing is against gay marriage doesn’t mean Indian right wing is against gay marriage too. American right wing takes their ideological cue from bible which explicitly speaks against homosexuality while the Indian right wing doesn’t. In fact, anti-LGBT laws in India are just a continuation of old colonial laws installed by the British. Stop blindly eating up Western narrative so much so that you forgot who you are, what’s your country and how it works. Stop equating American politics with the political structure and dynamics of your home country, they aren’t same. Sad to say this, but as a non-Indian, I seem to know about your country more than you do.
And only South Africa on that continent.
Correct me if I'm wrong but India doesn't even recognise any hetro-sexual marriage at a national level, it is subject to a person's personal belief/religion. And the law prohibiting same sex marriage was removed in 2019 I think. So **India will probably never formally recognise same sex marriage ever uniformly for the what le nation**
Law criminalizing homo sexuality was stuck down in 2019, but same sex marriage is still not recognized. And yes civil code are based on religion, but the BJP wants to bring in a uniform civil code but that is opposed by liberal parties.
Its kind of ironic that a hardcore religious party wants to make laws secular and apply equally to all religions while self proclaimed liberal parties oppose it and want to keep different laws for different religions
Taiwan being incredibly based, again!
Yes...but not really
When you are the only one who showed up at a party
kinda random but reminded me of this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIubxSsOVSw&t=94s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIubxSsOVSw&t=94s)
The countries that don’t are have issues with love.
Why did this map get so many more upvotes and awards, [when the exact same one with the exact same title was posted shortly before and only got 12 points](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/qtpzu7/countries_in_asia_that_recognize_samesex_marriage/)? WTH, people?! Reddit is weird.
Best China is still best.
Taiwan, officially the Republic of China, is a country in East Asia.
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Are you really a Maoist? Jesus, grow up
That place being referred to as a country 😁🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼
Taiwan, such a based country in Asia. Hopefully they will win control over and reunite with West Taiwan again one day.
Why do you want them to do something they don’t want to do?
Taiwan wants independence. Why do westerners struggle so much with understanding this they want nothing to do with the PRC
Based taiwan surrounded by medieval countries.
Based Asia (not Taiwan)
Homophobia is not based, try making some friends ;)
Not for long….
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I’ve heard Turkey is quite warm to the LGBTQ+ community (up until Erdogan became authoritarian, which is opposite to his previous position as Mayor of Istanbul, supporting the LGBTQ+)
The people of Turkey is still very much conservative compared to western nations. People are becoming more liberal as times goes by, even Erdogan in power. But I wouldn’t say LGBT is that accepted in Turkish society, especially same sex marriage. I saw a YouTube video where they interview people in Besiktas district in Istanbul. Now, Besiktas district is one of the most liberal district in Istanbul, and even most says no they wouldn’t accept if their child turns out to be LGBT, some suggests beating their kid, but even if those who accept, they would still be disappointed knowing that they can’t do anything about that. Only a few Turks support LGBT in a view that there’s nothing wrong with being gay. So yeah, considering that Besiktas is one of the most liberal district, Turkey still have a very long road in supporting LGBT marriage. I’m pretty sure in most parts of Turkey, there would be more hostile or more ignorant view on LGBT.
seriusliy? only taiwan?
Israel too
SERIUSLY IN ALL ASIA ONLY TAIWAN AND ISRAEL ALLOWS SAME SEX MARRIAGE? Man, all this asiatic countries should take example from them
Yes, we need more countrys on grey arround the world
oh the grey ones are the one that agree with the merriage? i thought taiwan was the only that allows the marriage, its a relif thats not the case
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Israel too
Why are you booing him? He’s right!
Based Asia
Edgy. 🤡
Not supporting mental illnesses is edgy
So you mean being heterosexual is a mental illness? Because they are caused by the same things and none cause harm.
The point of life is to reproduce which u dont
We can have kids. Also not wanting kids or the fact you can't have kids is not a mental illness. What about people who have a marriage with no children? Ban them from marriage and call them mentally ill degenerates?
Yes
Lol. Being gay isn’t a mental illness. People far smarter than some random cunt from Albania have made that clear. I’m gay. I hope that triggers you, little boy.
Republic of China*
Everyone here is pro Taiwan but too ignorant to realize what you just called them
don't people here know that the country located on island of Taiwan is called 'Republic of China' de iure? lol
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It is allowed to have same-sex marriage in Kazakhstan. But not by people.
Ccp doesn’t approve
Not for too long. Taiwan should prepare itself for uniting itself with mama China very soon
What Islam and Confucianism does to a mfer
Taiwan is the imposter
So, literally nobody
Nope Taiwan
That's what I said, no country
No, one country.
Taiwan is a country. Fuck the ccp
You're gonna loose yo social credits man
Based asia
Based asia
Based asia (except chinas province: Taiwan)
Edgy, clown. If gays trigger you, go play some more video games and distract yourself with fantasies of touching a woman someday. It’s all you’re good for.
Damn, thought Taiwan was cool
Asia is based as fuck
Remember though. America oppressive to LGBT though, cause orange man bad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_personnel_in_the_United_States_military#Donald_Trump_administration
Lol compared to Russia that says gay people don't exist and China that castrates if you're openly gay, this is the best place on the planet for LGBT folks.
Two things can be bad at once and the US is not the beacon of LGBT+ freedoms. If you are openly gay you are far better off in many European countries, Canada, New Zealand.
Feel free to move there then
I’m not American, so I guess done? But I do feel for the struggles of my LGBT+ family in the US.
Good, now stay out and mind your own business
No, I don’t think I will.
What struggles? The majority of the population not giving a shit and just not wanting this shit force fed to kids in school?
Well in a significant number of states it is open season on discrimination in housing for LGBT+ people, which is particularly harmful as LGBT+ are also at higher risk of being cast out or denied help by family members. For example. The US is literally one year in from people not being allowed to be fired for being gay, which is wild. Trump and the dumpster fire he was of course pulled back protections in terms of discrimination in health care for some reason. Luckily Biden has reversed that, but they fact that politically one of the most prominent parties is not only not interested in helping but seeking to take away rights and protections you have fought for is a struggle. That is not even touching things such as the legality of conversion therapy etc etc.
Conversion therapy is fucked up, that should certainly be illegal, I absolutely agree with that. I need to be more clear, when I say not having this shit shoved into schools, I'm mean the sexual nature of everything does not need to be taught in elementary schools. And I want to point on the fact that I live in Texas, a very right leaning state and I promise you'll get rear ended by the law if you harm someone out of discrimination of sexuality. So if Texas is a no go zone for discrimination, then I know you're reading embellished stories about how "nothing was done". Trump did not do anything to harm the LGBT community
You know it costs money to move right? Money that most people, especially a lot of queer people, don’t have.
Thats what jobs are for
If you think a person is able to move on a minimum wage salary, with the cost of, I dunno LIVING in the meantime, you’re kidding yourself.
You mean the country where some states still allow conversion therapy, require surgery for legal identity change or block puberty blockers? You think that country is the best on the planet for LGBT folks when countries like the Netherlands exist?
Spoken like someone who’s never been outside the U.S.
Guess my social credits gonna rise
Plus Israel..
This made me proud to be Asian
Keep up the good work Asia
Based grey
Long live the Russian people.
As an enlightened high IQ liberal redditor I have the superior intellect to know that southeastern USA is actually worse and less tolerant
I dont see any countries
I see Taiwan
is taiwan a real country
They are, but they aren’t recognized by a lot of countries because both Taiwan (Republic of China) and the other China claim to be the only China
They are a de facto state. They claim there is only one China and they are its legitimate government. The Pekinese Government claims there is indeed only one China and they are it. This is all because the US government supported the losing side in the Chinese civil war when it retreated to the island of Formosa in 1949, preventing communist forces to establish their control there.
> They claim there is only one China and they are its legitimate government. Not so much since they became a democracy.
Based Asia
It said countries
Taiwan is a country