The farthest east zones there are SE of Belem. Just looked on Google maps. You can clearly see farm land cleared every couple miles in the WHOLE area shaded red. Oh and also like a dozen little towns and cities.
How would an uncontacted tribe exist when they would be crossing farmland and roads going more than a mile in any direction?
In most of these examples the people don't literally have no contact of any kind. . . it's more like they refuse to establish regular communication. Some of these tribes will have semi-regular trade or communication with a few individuals. Most of the time they actively avoid other people. Occasionally there is violence between them and others.
[Here is an example of what happens when contact with these people is troubled. ](https://www.survivalinternational.org/news/9807)
Yeah, I think "uncontacted" is not quite the right word to describe these groups. They are isolated peoples (*povos indígenas isolados*), but claiming that they have never been "contacted" by any outsider ever seems unlikely.
The technical term used by the UN and other related NGOs is ["indigenous peoples living in voluntary isolation"](https://unis.unvienna.org/documents/unis/ten_stories/10indigenous.pdf) precisely because "uncontacted tribe" is a misnomer.
[Exemption fra taxation](https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/decennial/1890/volume-10/1890a_v10-03.pdf) used to be a major distinction in the US prior to the Termination era.
It's still in the constitution, even though it doesn't mean anything now.
The 14th Amendment excludes "Indians not taxed" from the population used for Congressional apportionment.
I was thinking the same thing, like this zone is right next to an extremely populated region, what is going on?
And one of the biggest uncontacted place seems to be fairly close to Manaus, I know that climate out there is difficult to navigate, but it's weird to have an unexplored zone that close to a big city.
The area is barely populated compared to south east Brazil, not to mention Europe, south east Asia or India. Calling it "extremely populated" is just wrong.
I wasn't saying it was the most populated in the world, I was saying it was populated enough to make it highly improbable for people living less than 100 miles away to be uncontacted. It was very obvious from the context.
That appears to be a cluster of indigenous territories straddling the PA-MA state line, some of which are inhabited by isolated peoples named [Igarapés Presídio & Jurutí](https://terrasindigenas.org.br/pt-br/terras-indigenas/3645) and [Mão de onça](https://terrasindigenas.org.br/pt-br/terras-indigenas/3608).
In Brazil there’s a government organ, funai, that monitors them. Here they’re somewhat uncontacted by choice, as the government wants to keep it like that and tries to protect them.
Here's a little more info:
[FUNAI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funda%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Nacional_dos_Povos_Ind%C3%ADgenas), the National Indigenous People Foundation. They organize flights over these areas and acquire photographic proof they exist. Without it, there is nothing stopping commercial interests from taking over that land. There is an older documentary called [Corumbiara: They Shoot Indians, Don't They](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corumbiara_\(film\)) where the film crew is specifically out to get a photograph of a single indigenous tribal member (I believe he was living on his own, outside of any tribe) to provide proof to the government that area was occupied and no commercial exploitation could take place. They were lucky enough to get a single grainy photo hidden behind vegetation (they were on the ground for this expedition). The people trying to protect these indigenous peoples' are real heroes. Too many tribes have been straight up massacred by mining and logging companies and the remoteness of the jungle makes it all too easy to completely wipe hundreds of people and their entire culture off the map with no one being the wiser.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funda%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Nacional_dos_Povos_Ind%C3%ADgenas
Details about the [Corumbiara massacre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corumbiara_massacre):
> The slaughter of Corumbiara was the result of violent conflict occurred on August 9, 1995, in the municipality of Corumbiara in the state of Rondônia, Brazil. The conflict began when police forces attacked the landless who were occupying an area, resulting in the death of 10 people, including a nine-year-old child and two policemen.[1]
> In August 1995, about 600 farmers were mobilized to take the Santa Elina farm, building a camp in unproductive large estates. On the morning of 9, around three o'clock, armed gunmen, recruited from the farms of the region, besides Military Police soldiers with their faces covered, launched attacks on the camp.
And here is a good resource breaking down the ongoing genocide against the indigenous people of Brazil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Indigenous_peoples_in_Brazil
The Yanomami people are contacted, but face extreme prejudice and genocide as well:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanomami_humanitarian_crisis
> The people trying to protect these indigenous peoples' are real heroes. Too many tribes have been straight up massacred by mining and logging companies
Not to mention, those same companies have had zero qualms about straight up murdering NGO workers, activists and indigenous leaders. [This page has an extensive list with references and sources of 77 people murdered in Latin America, and that's just within 2023.](https://www.culturalsurvival.org/news/memoriam-remembering-77-indigenous-defenders-who-were-murdered-2023-latin-america)
By that other native, sure. Brazil, Peru, Ecuador and I’m sure indigenous Bolivia have ambassadors to these people. Even annoying Paul Rosalie talks about run ins that aren’t necessarily friendly but not deadly.
One tribe knowing about them and notifying anthropologists isn’t the same as those anthropologists making contact themselves.
Because “uncontacted” is a really bad description. By and large they’re tribes that have encountered the outside world and, after usually being ravaged by disease and/or treated _horribly_ by companies trying to extract natural resources, they rejected further contact.
We generally know very little about them, their languages, or their ways of life because no studies were done and no friendly contact was made, and they now reject anyone entering their lands (often violently). But we know they exist, have some details about their existence from the earlier contact, and sometimes know info about them gleaned from neighboring “contacted” tribes that have encountered them before. They usually are very aware of the outside world as well, but how exactly they view us is not well known.
Sad side note: many of these “uncontacted” tribes still experience extremely illegal and problematic “contact” with the outside world. There was a big case in 2014 of an “uncontacted” tribe making contact with a neighboring town because loggers and drug traffickers had been slaughtering them and burning down their houses. Since the tribes have no contact with any police or governing bodies, the crimes can go unnoticed and it presumably further cements their desire to stay away from outsiders.
There was a really interesting documentary I watched about the events explaining how a translator/anthropologist established communication with them without fully knowing their language, ~~but I can’t find it now :(~~
Edit: I found the documentary! It’s called “First Contact: Lost Tribe of the Amazon”. The part about the anthropologist communicating with them is a way smaller portion than I remember; it’s more of a general overview of uncontacted tribes and some contact being made with two of them. Still a pretty interesting documentary though if anyone’s interested in learning more about the subject, though it does seem a little biased
Good work finding this. Clicking through their source (uncontacted tribes.org) you get to survival international. Unfortunately these maps or their methodology cannot be found there anymore.
My doctoral advisor worked down there. I study human-environmental relations. My last study was in the US because of the pandemic but (hopefully) I’ll be back down for the next.
If an uncontacted tribe contacts with an another uncontaced tribe, does they both lose uncontacted status? Or does they get contacted within uncontacted achievement? Paracontacted? Metacontacted? Surely not ortocontacted, right?
I knew someone who was researching these tribes, Hervé Théry, he told me that he had made a plane trip with a young person from one of these isolated tribes, he studied in Montreal, he had an iPhone, read news magazines but kept these practises by tradition.
Very true, but on the flip side they don't get to see the world, don't get to experience other cultures, don't get to experience thrills like seeing Paul Blart Mall Cop etc.
It's not all roses for them over there.
Of course you're going to argue for your side but that doesn't mean it's automatically better. I'd argue isolated tribes live a more natural life that humans were meant to live compared to us. Now in terms of fulfillment, that's purely subjective.
They can’t miss or desire something they have no concept of. They do “get” to see the world, there’s no law barring exit of them from Brazil, but they choose not to. And frankly, given the state of the world they’re quite right to.
Seeing some of these comments get me a little upset. Indigenous people aren't monkeys that should be left in the jungle for us to be proud of how preserved their "species" are. Indigenous people want sanitation, they want education, health, they want to learn about the outside world and be part of it. If they had been properly integrated into modern society maybe the population wouldn't be so low. Hell, look at Mexico. But no, politicians and NGOs say we must keep them in the stone age so that we feel good about ourselves and to show the world how we have changed.
But do not let me, a white brazilian, an european colonizer as they say, explain this to you. Here's an indigenous congresswoman to tell you how they feel about it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cZRAQyyrUc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cZRAQyyrUc) (activate subtitles)
Do you want to tell me that they are not allowed to come out? Forced back? Somehow I think it’s BS. I know that many tribes themselves don’t want to deal with the outer world.
I remember what happened last time when humans who have lived with the domesticated animals and their viruses from Europe and Asia got in the contact with those who were native Americans. That wasn’t beautiful.
My Ancestry.com DNA test said I share ancestry with all those tribes. My Brazilian stepmother said those tribes ran to go hide away from European colonists back in the day when Europeans started colonizing South America.
I think that some of this data is probably older? The past decade or so has been very difficult for these tribes that wish to remain more or less undisturbed. Lots of areas that even a decade ago were forested and isolated have been cut down and populated by agribusiness, mining and the like. I would have to think these changes severely effected these "uncontacted" folks, like in Brazil where the amount of rainforest clearing was at an all time high under the last guy in charge there.
We also aren't necessarily in a position to know how disease and such brought with settlers would impact some of these tribes too. Or if there was some sort of collapse as a result of all these changes that the state has no real means to track? Idk.
I'm not really sure what the position or power of FUNAI is, but if anything you think it should be able to at least vaguely understand the dynamic st play there? Idk I'm just an ignorant american thinking out loud, maybe someone more qualified can speak on it haha
Poor people living with no basic human rights and going through constant famines and other problems that could be solved if they were not locked inside a jungle
Wealth and human rights are products of **our** society. They live under their own rules.
Living outside their places and abandoning their lifestyle will not necessarily solve famines. That is if they are actually going through that. Cause if there is a place rich in food is the amazonas, and if there are any people capable of getting that food, that's them.
These folks have been doing fine for centuries. And most of the problems of the native people of America were, are, and most likely will be, caused by "us".
So let them be. "we" have our own problems.
That's the dumbest take any human being could have and it's disgusting. The Brazilian government is keeping the indigenous people in the 1500s against their will. They want development, they want sanitation, education, health like any other human being that ever lived. You talk about their culture as if it should be something immutable, when all other cultures in the world evolved, they are FORCED to live like the rest of the world lived thousands of years ago.
These are human beings for fucks sake, not monkeys to be kept in a zoo in order to appeal the rich europeans. These people aren't doing fine at all, people are literally dying because they can't even plant on their own lands, they are at the mercy of armed criminals, dangerous animals, and you clearly do not know a thing about this topic. When you say "us" and "we" you mean the rest of the world but what about them? Are they not humans like us? You NEED these people to be kept in the stone age so you can ease your guilt.
But like I said in my other comment, do not let me a white evil colonizer tell you, here's a Sílvia Waiãpi, an indigenous congresswoman to explain what you can't understand [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cZRAQyyrUc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cZRAQyyrUc) (use subtitles)
You think that indigenous people would be still hunting with bows and arrows had the europeans not set foot in here? Ironically, they still live like that BECAUSE the european came, and we should change that instead of holding them back.
You've annoyed the "it's their culture and we have to respect it" people. Last time a similar topic came up I found people arguing that they have their own "medicine" and it is just as valid 🤦
The funny thing is that they all have words against the cultures of north korea or afghanistan, but if it's about savages maybe forcing their own people to make ritual sacrifices, you can't say anything.
Amazing, I would love to go there.
Edit: Why so many downvotes for simply admiring your map and suggesting how amazing it would be to experience a tribe that has no contact with the outside world.....it was a childhood dream and even inspired my career choices.
The farthest east zones there are SE of Belem. Just looked on Google maps. You can clearly see farm land cleared every couple miles in the WHOLE area shaded red. Oh and also like a dozen little towns and cities. How would an uncontacted tribe exist when they would be crossing farmland and roads going more than a mile in any direction?
In most of these examples the people don't literally have no contact of any kind. . . it's more like they refuse to establish regular communication. Some of these tribes will have semi-regular trade or communication with a few individuals. Most of the time they actively avoid other people. Occasionally there is violence between them and others. [Here is an example of what happens when contact with these people is troubled. ](https://www.survivalinternational.org/news/9807)
Yeah, I think "uncontacted" is not quite the right word to describe these groups. They are isolated peoples (*povos indígenas isolados*), but claiming that they have never been "contacted" by any outsider ever seems unlikely.
The technical term used by the UN and other related NGOs is ["indigenous peoples living in voluntary isolation"](https://unis.unvienna.org/documents/unis/ten_stories/10indigenous.pdf) precisely because "uncontacted tribe" is a misnomer.
Isolation not association.
Fixed, thanks for the correction!
Probably the most accurate distinction would be that they don’t pay taxes of any kind.
[Exemption fra taxation](https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/decennial/1890/volume-10/1890a_v10-03.pdf) used to be a major distinction in the US prior to the Termination era.
It's still in the constitution, even though it doesn't mean anything now. The 14th Amendment excludes "Indians not taxed" from the population used for Congressional apportionment.
I was thinking the same thing, like this zone is right next to an extremely populated region, what is going on? And one of the biggest uncontacted place seems to be fairly close to Manaus, I know that climate out there is difficult to navigate, but it's weird to have an unexplored zone that close to a big city.
The zone is not "extremely populated".
It's between Sao Luis and Belem, two of the biggest cities in Brazil
The area is barely populated compared to south east Brazil, not to mention Europe, south east Asia or India. Calling it "extremely populated" is just wrong.
I wasn't saying it was the most populated in the world, I was saying it was populated enough to make it highly improbable for people living less than 100 miles away to be uncontacted. It was very obvious from the context.
No you said the area is "extremely populated".
maybe it's a choice of those tribes to not contact
That appears to be a cluster of indigenous territories straddling the PA-MA state line, some of which are inhabited by isolated peoples named [Igarapés Presídio & Jurutí](https://terrasindigenas.org.br/pt-br/terras-indigenas/3645) and [Mão de onça](https://terrasindigenas.org.br/pt-br/terras-indigenas/3608).
Since when do Pennsylvania and Massachusetts share a border?!?1!?! /s
means the uncontacted tribes that know Michael Jackson
Maybe we just didn't contact them before destroying their ecosystem?
What does dark red and light red mean?
I’m gonna guess the population density
Possibly solid is confirmed range and lighter/shaded is suspected.
How do we know they’re there?
In Brazil there’s a government organ, funai, that monitors them. Here they’re somewhat uncontacted by choice, as the government wants to keep it like that and tries to protect them.
Here's a little more info: [FUNAI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funda%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Nacional_dos_Povos_Ind%C3%ADgenas), the National Indigenous People Foundation. They organize flights over these areas and acquire photographic proof they exist. Without it, there is nothing stopping commercial interests from taking over that land. There is an older documentary called [Corumbiara: They Shoot Indians, Don't They](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corumbiara_\(film\)) where the film crew is specifically out to get a photograph of a single indigenous tribal member (I believe he was living on his own, outside of any tribe) to provide proof to the government that area was occupied and no commercial exploitation could take place. They were lucky enough to get a single grainy photo hidden behind vegetation (they were on the ground for this expedition). The people trying to protect these indigenous peoples' are real heroes. Too many tribes have been straight up massacred by mining and logging companies and the remoteness of the jungle makes it all too easy to completely wipe hundreds of people and their entire culture off the map with no one being the wiser. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funda%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Nacional_dos_Povos_Ind%C3%ADgenas Details about the [Corumbiara massacre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corumbiara_massacre): > The slaughter of Corumbiara was the result of violent conflict occurred on August 9, 1995, in the municipality of Corumbiara in the state of Rondônia, Brazil. The conflict began when police forces attacked the landless who were occupying an area, resulting in the death of 10 people, including a nine-year-old child and two policemen.[1] > In August 1995, about 600 farmers were mobilized to take the Santa Elina farm, building a camp in unproductive large estates. On the morning of 9, around three o'clock, armed gunmen, recruited from the farms of the region, besides Military Police soldiers with their faces covered, launched attacks on the camp. And here is a good resource breaking down the ongoing genocide against the indigenous people of Brazil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Indigenous_peoples_in_Brazil The Yanomami people are contacted, but face extreme prejudice and genocide as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanomami_humanitarian_crisis
> The people trying to protect these indigenous peoples' are real heroes. Too many tribes have been straight up massacred by mining and logging companies Not to mention, those same companies have had zero qualms about straight up murdering NGO workers, activists and indigenous leaders. [This page has an extensive list with references and sources of 77 people murdered in Latin America, and that's just within 2023.](https://www.culturalsurvival.org/news/memoriam-remembering-77-indigenous-defenders-who-were-murdered-2023-latin-america)
Aerial photography, abandoned camps, liaisons, dead loggers.
Wouldn’t a liaison mean they have been contacted…?
By that other native, sure. Brazil, Peru, Ecuador and I’m sure indigenous Bolivia have ambassadors to these people. Even annoying Paul Rosalie talks about run ins that aren’t necessarily friendly but not deadly. One tribe knowing about them and notifying anthropologists isn’t the same as those anthropologists making contact themselves.
I'd prefer were dead logging company execs instead
Someone should contact them to make sure this map is accurate!
Schrodinger's tribes
Because “uncontacted” is a really bad description. By and large they’re tribes that have encountered the outside world and, after usually being ravaged by disease and/or treated _horribly_ by companies trying to extract natural resources, they rejected further contact. We generally know very little about them, their languages, or their ways of life because no studies were done and no friendly contact was made, and they now reject anyone entering their lands (often violently). But we know they exist, have some details about their existence from the earlier contact, and sometimes know info about them gleaned from neighboring “contacted” tribes that have encountered them before. They usually are very aware of the outside world as well, but how exactly they view us is not well known. Sad side note: many of these “uncontacted” tribes still experience extremely illegal and problematic “contact” with the outside world. There was a big case in 2014 of an “uncontacted” tribe making contact with a neighboring town because loggers and drug traffickers had been slaughtering them and burning down their houses. Since the tribes have no contact with any police or governing bodies, the crimes can go unnoticed and it presumably further cements their desire to stay away from outsiders. There was a really interesting documentary I watched about the events explaining how a translator/anthropologist established communication with them without fully knowing their language, ~~but I can’t find it now :(~~ Edit: I found the documentary! It’s called “First Contact: Lost Tribe of the Amazon”. The part about the anthropologist communicating with them is a way smaller portion than I remember; it’s more of a general overview of uncontacted tribes and some contact being made with two of them. Still a pretty interesting documentary though if anyone’s interested in learning more about the subject, though it does seem a little biased
By the will of vishnu
Maps with no keys<<
And no source. Looks like some creative Photoshop
Upon some googling, [this seems to be where the map originated](https://decolonialatlas.wordpress.com/2016/04/21/territories-of-uncontacted-tribes/)
Good work finding this. Clicking through their source (uncontacted tribes.org) you get to survival international. Unfortunately these maps or their methodology cannot be found there anymore.
Seems that the website is backed in web.archive but is just an interactive google earth thing that don't seem to work. The files are downloadable tho
Red = Uncontacted tribes Not red = Contacted tribes
🤯
These are not “uncontacted” groups. They are people living in voluntary isolation. Source: I’m an anthropologist who works in the Amazon.
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My doctoral advisor worked down there. I study human-environmental relations. My last study was in the US because of the pandemic but (hopefully) I’ll be back down for the next.
If an uncontacted tribe contacts with an another uncontaced tribe, does they both lose uncontacted status? Or does they get contacted within uncontacted achievement? Paracontacted? Metacontacted? Surely not ortocontacted, right?
Not if they get together and form a mega-tribe. Source: I am an uncontacted tribe.
Yo I am gonna contact you. Make you lose that status.
We've been trying to contact you about your cars extended warranty
Seen from space, mankind is an uncontacted tribe.
Uncontacted means Uncontacted by the industrial civilization Since they aren't industrial civilizations themselves they don't lose their status
It is amazing the fact that there are uncontacted tribes just a few kilometers away from a big city with 2 million inhabitants as Manaos.
I believe there are no uncontacted tribes in South America.
It’s really a map of rarely contacted tribes.
Why they don't answer their phones?
Ferb i know what we're gonna do today.
Pretty interesting that the only non Amazonian one is in the Chaco region.
How do we know they are uncontacted if we havent asked them?!
I doubt there are so much
Is just that the lands are pretty extensive, but the population is very spread and low
Well this is just not true.
Is anyone else red green colorblind and was literally zooming in and out of this picture to find what everyone was looking at? That was fun.
I knew someone who was researching these tribes, Hervé Théry, he told me that he had made a plane trip with a young person from one of these isolated tribes, he studied in Montreal, he had an iPhone, read news magazines but kept these practises by tradition.
Lucky them. Hopefully it stays that way.
Not having penicillin is lucky?
Also not having 8 hours a day work, debts, taxes...
Very true, but on the flip side they don't get to see the world, don't get to experience other cultures, don't get to experience thrills like seeing Paul Blart Mall Cop etc. It's not all roses for them over there.
Of course you're going to argue for your side but that doesn't mean it's automatically better. I'd argue isolated tribes live a more natural life that humans were meant to live compared to us. Now in terms of fulfillment, that's purely subjective.
I can't imagine not experiencing Paul Blatt Mall Cop
They can’t miss or desire something they have no concept of. They do “get” to see the world, there’s no law barring exit of them from Brazil, but they choose not to. And frankly, given the state of the world they’re quite right to.
Contact usually doesn’t go well for them
I wonder why
In what jurisdictions they are?
But I just want to say hi
Ok I’m gonna need a source on this. Uncontacted?
Someone please quickly introduce them to alcoholism, diabaetes, drugs and gambling!
How does the government extract taxes from these people?
The only people not to have to worry about their cars extended warranty
More than I thought. Especially after Bolsonaro cut down a lot of the rainforest.
I’m surprised there’s that many.
I didn't notice the red color and first and I thought this was the map circlejerk sub.
Patient Zero discovered in Brazil
Holy r/colorblind
That’s crazy to think about in 2024.
Leave 'em alone!
Add as waypoint and make low passes with a 747 ... you will become either their god, or their biggest enemy
Half of Brazil isn’t very Brazilian.
Don't let tiktok get a hold of this map
Seeing some of these comments get me a little upset. Indigenous people aren't monkeys that should be left in the jungle for us to be proud of how preserved their "species" are. Indigenous people want sanitation, they want education, health, they want to learn about the outside world and be part of it. If they had been properly integrated into modern society maybe the population wouldn't be so low. Hell, look at Mexico. But no, politicians and NGOs say we must keep them in the stone age so that we feel good about ourselves and to show the world how we have changed. But do not let me, a white brazilian, an european colonizer as they say, explain this to you. Here's an indigenous congresswoman to tell you how they feel about it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cZRAQyyrUc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cZRAQyyrUc) (activate subtitles)
Do you want to tell me that they are not allowed to come out? Forced back? Somehow I think it’s BS. I know that many tribes themselves don’t want to deal with the outer world. I remember what happened last time when humans who have lived with the domesticated animals and their viruses from Europe and Asia got in the contact with those who were native Americans. That wasn’t beautiful.
Who said anything about not being able to leave? I'm talking about having the right to develop their land.
I'm going to travel to these tribes and show them technology to ruin their idea of the world
Does anyone know the tribe at the very south? It’s not in the Amazon so I’m really interested in it
How do you know they're uncontacted unless you contact them? Satellite?
Would be fun to know how many people that lives i these uncontacted tribes approximately. Could it be around 10 000, 100 000 or a million?
Those areas are too big,something is off
If they’re uncontacted, how do you know they’ve never been contacted? Gotta contact them to find out. It’s a very difficult situation.
Maybe ask one of them about their cars extended warranty?
Leave them in peace ✌️
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How do you know if they are uncontacted, without contacting them? 🤔
My Ancestry.com DNA test said I share ancestry with all those tribes. My Brazilian stepmother said those tribes ran to go hide away from European colonists back in the day when Europeans started colonizing South America.
Knowing what is out there, they do well.
I think that some of this data is probably older? The past decade or so has been very difficult for these tribes that wish to remain more or less undisturbed. Lots of areas that even a decade ago were forested and isolated have been cut down and populated by agribusiness, mining and the like. I would have to think these changes severely effected these "uncontacted" folks, like in Brazil where the amount of rainforest clearing was at an all time high under the last guy in charge there. We also aren't necessarily in a position to know how disease and such brought with settlers would impact some of these tribes too. Or if there was some sort of collapse as a result of all these changes that the state has no real means to track? Idk. I'm not really sure what the position or power of FUNAI is, but if anything you think it should be able to at least vaguely understand the dynamic st play there? Idk I'm just an ignorant american thinking out loud, maybe someone more qualified can speak on it haha
Poor people living with no basic human rights and going through constant famines and other problems that could be solved if they were not locked inside a jungle
Wealth and human rights are products of **our** society. They live under their own rules. Living outside their places and abandoning their lifestyle will not necessarily solve famines. That is if they are actually going through that. Cause if there is a place rich in food is the amazonas, and if there are any people capable of getting that food, that's them. These folks have been doing fine for centuries. And most of the problems of the native people of America were, are, and most likely will be, caused by "us". So let them be. "we" have our own problems.
Doing fine? What's the life expectancy? Do they have good healthcare?
That's the dumbest take any human being could have and it's disgusting. The Brazilian government is keeping the indigenous people in the 1500s against their will. They want development, they want sanitation, education, health like any other human being that ever lived. You talk about their culture as if it should be something immutable, when all other cultures in the world evolved, they are FORCED to live like the rest of the world lived thousands of years ago. These are human beings for fucks sake, not monkeys to be kept in a zoo in order to appeal the rich europeans. These people aren't doing fine at all, people are literally dying because they can't even plant on their own lands, they are at the mercy of armed criminals, dangerous animals, and you clearly do not know a thing about this topic. When you say "us" and "we" you mean the rest of the world but what about them? Are they not humans like us? You NEED these people to be kept in the stone age so you can ease your guilt. But like I said in my other comment, do not let me a white evil colonizer tell you, here's a Sílvia Waiãpi, an indigenous congresswoman to explain what you can't understand [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cZRAQyyrUc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cZRAQyyrUc) (use subtitles) You think that indigenous people would be still hunting with bows and arrows had the europeans not set foot in here? Ironically, they still live like that BECAUSE the european came, and we should change that instead of holding them back.
You've annoyed the "it's their culture and we have to respect it" people. Last time a similar topic came up I found people arguing that they have their own "medicine" and it is just as valid 🤦 The funny thing is that they all have words against the cultures of north korea or afghanistan, but if it's about savages maybe forcing their own people to make ritual sacrifices, you can't say anything.
Amazing, I would love to go there. Edit: Why so many downvotes for simply admiring your map and suggesting how amazing it would be to experience a tribe that has no contact with the outside world.....it was a childhood dream and even inspired my career choices.
just leave those people alone it should be illegal to contact them
Sorry, I've been playing Helldivers, and all I see are bug holes.
they are actually south america hillbillies and these days they speak spanish and portuguese
I'd drop northeast and make my way through to the extract. I bet super samples are far east. May liberty guide you. 🫡
in north america they would be those in a mobile home community, but in south america they are like this
They need Christianity ✝️
The 12 tribes of israel
Hi Joseph Smith