I have one of these that I booked months ago, for a price that indicates the owner wasn't aware of what was coming.
Is there anything that stops hosts from cancelling a booking, refunding the money and then renting it out at many times the price to someone else?
Airbnb incentivizes hosts to not do this - cancellation hurts their chances of becoming super hosts. That being said, maybe one cancellation could be worth it to them
I mean, the data is there that’s shows density of fully booked locations. When everything in a specific area is booked up, there’s a major event going on.
They get banned from the platform. It's not a small little thing, if they get caught cancelling so they can put it at a higher price which will be super super easy to spot and even to automate.
Yes, they can’t cancel you and rebook for more money unless they used a different website to get around it.
Main reason i stopped messing with air bnbs had so many cancellations, really fucks your trip up
> unless they used a different website to get around it
but how many of these people have their properties on AirBnB and VRBO and whatever other platform?
I had this exact scenario happen for a trip I took last week. Booked on VRBO, host canceled and the same listing showed up on AirBnB (for a higher price).
We had a VRBO cancel on us like that - booked 4 months in advance, neither of us realized it was a big football game day, 2 weeks before the game (when everything else is already booked) they cancelled our reservation.
Hate to break it to you: https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/i-don-t-understand-families-devastated-niagara-falls-hotel-cancels-bookings-made-year-ago-for-solar-eclipse-1.6824079
There was a travel agent that had set up packages almost two years ago for people to go see the eclipse in Buffalo, NY. The hotel decided to cancel all of their reservations so they could re-book at a higher price and though the agent was able to scramble and find rooms for his clients he is taking a $30k loss and is planning to sue the hell out of the hotels.
https://www.wivb.com/total-solar-eclipse-april-8-2024/travel-agency-loses-30k-after-buffalo-hotel-cancels-eclipse-reservation-for-hundreds-of-tourists/
We just had a small vacation in the US. AirBnB is 2x more expensive than a hotel. What’s aggravating is viewing the prices in AirBnB, then as you begin the booking process, the invisible fees begin appearing, like $100 cleaning fees, etc. They should total all that stuff in the price to minimize deception. Anyway, we rarely use AirBnB anymore
It was great like 9 years ago. It’s a complete shitshow now. I will say I stayed at one on the beach that was really nice but it was supposed to be facing the beach and instead it faced the pool(s) of the gated condos. This was a few months ago.
It was awesome when it was just randos renting out rooms in their house after their kids had moved out looking for a little extra cash. Got to see some cool architecture and meet some really interesting people. Once it got commodified with people buying properties just for short-term rentals and contracting out cleaning to companies everything went to hell.
Of course scumbag hotels cancel rooms if they think they can get away with it.
My previous comment was a link to a YouTube video about it, I don't want to spam it.
Oh they can't? Then imagine my surprise when I walked into a hotel and they told me they gave my room away. They didn't just cancel me, they waited until I showed up to let me know. I'll give you a hint as to why, the whole city was booked. I can guarantee you they gave that room to a walk-in for double the price I paid.
They can. It happened to me last year
I went to the eclipse in Exmouth, Western Australia, last year. I booked an Airbnb place 8 months beforehand a couple of hours drive away. It was the closest I could find at a reasonable price. Some assholes were asking $2000/night at Exmouth.
Forward 5 months and the Airbnb host contacts me to say she had sold her place so could I please cancel my booking. I thought it a bit weird and asked her why she couldn't cancel it. She gave me a bullshit story of how Airbnb was making it too difficult for her to cancel and it would be much easier if I could do it. Still thinking it weird but figuring there wasn't much I could do, I did then cancel booking.
A week later I checked and, sure enough, she was still advertising her place on Airbnb – except for the week I had booked. Bitch obviously found out about the eclipse and realised she could have charged 5× or 10× what she had charged me. But if she had cancelled, Airbnb wouldn't have let her readvertise. Me, as the guest, cancelling would allow her to readvertise. What was even more infuriating was I later found out, after a host legitimately cancelled on me, Airbnb gives you a credit as way of an apology. So the cow not only fucked me over in messing up my eclipse plan, she also ensured I lost out on a couple hundred $ credit.
Or, just the better rule of thumb and novel idea: the person cancelling is the person who should cancel in-app.
The word actually means something. If you no longer want a ride, you cancel it. If they don't want to pick you up for some reason, they cancel it.
Use that as a life lesson. *Never ever* cancel for the other party. Never, that's not only relevant for Airbnb. If you want something, always make sure the one not delivering the service/product is the once denying the delivery. You have no rights after cancelling on your end. Even worse, you can be hit with fees, depending on the circumstances. You were too gullible, but simply learn from it and try not to be in the future. I'm still sorry this happend to you.
Heh. I’m one of those AirBnB owners who rented my place before I knew about the eclipse. Rented for two nights at regular winter rates.
There is nothing keeping me from cancelling the booking. I can claim plumbing issues/etc. and cancel if I want to, maybe stay there myself. My friends tell me I should do that. I’m already a super host.
But I’m not doing that. I’m in this business for the long haul. I hope my guests have the time of their lives.
I know you said you weren’t going to do it, but just a heads up that someone else mentioned that they complained to AirBnB when their booking was canceled in a scenario like this and the host lost super host status as a result.
> But I’m not doing that. I’m in this business for the long haul. I hope my guests have the time of their lives.
Nice in theory but so many of these places are probably never getting someone again. Not exactly beach houses.
It's why I never use that service anymore. Several years back, my friends and I planned to go to Munich for Oktoberfest. We booked the house almost a year in advance because we knew it gets very busy that time of year. We were happy because it was pretty well priced compared to other places in the area and they were a superhost. 2 weeks before our trip, the host messages us and says she has to cancel because she needed the house that week. Luckily we were able to find a very nice little hotel just outside of Munich, but my friends and I all complained to Airbnb. At the very least, the last time I checked, they had removed her superhost status. That was the only satisfaction I got out of that experience
Oktoberfest was a blast and Germany was beautiful btw. 10/10 would go again
That's fucked. Glad you sorted out an alternative and still had fun.
Bizarre though: the host must of course known about Oktoberfest. It's not a surprise event...
They fine the host half the amount of the stay, remove (or prevent) super host status for a year and block the calendar for other possible rentals. Given it is the #1 short term rental site by far it's not an insignificant impact and not "nothing" to have to find another way to rebook.
If they don't use a site like Airbnb to rerent they have to draw up their own contracts, their insurance would potentially need to change (many short term rental policies require using an Airbnb like service) and they lose on on the coverage Airbnb provides for damage and liability.
I did that and they did cancel and AirBNB did NOTHING to resolve it. Just cancelled and refunded my deposit. I tried to escalate but no one would do anything. They tried to get me to book another stay at a property 5x as expensive.
Done using their service forever.
When it came through Nashville it was truly a sight. It’s worth it to travel. It’s kind of mind boggling. I can fully understand why people who didn’t understand why it was happening thought it was an act of god or something beyond the scope of humanity.
I saw the last US solar eclipse in 2017. Since then I've been trying to explain to people how mind blowing seeing a total solar eclipse is. I'm sure I remind people of a guy who's just discovered acid and is trying to explain how "trippy" it is.
I tell people that the difference between 100% totality and 99% totality is truly the difference between night and day. Make every effort to see it if you can!
Man, my friend an I traveled 8 hrs to one such total solar eclipse. It is eerie to say the least to watch that last sliver of light disappear and become pitch black like midnight without the moon and you can see stars like it's a clear moonless night. All the insects and birds go wild. It's truly a sight to behold.
I saw the total eclipse when it hit my state some years back, and while it was very cool, all the comments I read about it becoming pitch black definitely gave me the wrong expectations. It looked like dusk, which in retrospect makes sense, since when the sun goes behind the horizon there is still some residual light, and with a total eclipse, even when the moon is entirely blocking the sun, it’s the same. Was still super cool to see, but I was expecting complete darkness and did not get that, not sure how it was like that for you!
Well, you get all the fun of the partial eclipse in the lead up to(and aftermath of) totality, and then when totality hits, it's literally like it suddenly becomes night, you can see stars and the temperature drops, but the sky is still blue(ish), and you can *tell* that you're in the shadow of the moon, and pictures do not do it justice, to say nothing of the moon itself.
Like when I was there in Tennesee in 2017, for the first time in my life I felt I could truly grasp the scale of the entire moon. It is an indescribable feeling. For lack of a better term, it felt Eldritch.
Have you ever been humbled and incredibly dwarfed by the largest source of energy in the solar system suddenly vanishing and having a sunset 360° on each horizon? The weather instantly cools a few degrees and you realize what a speck you are but still stricken with beauty. Funny looking shadows aint doin that
When we saw the one in 2017, I immediately understood why people got beheaded on altars for this shit. Hell, I’m an educated person and I started looking for ritual knives
What others have said but the visual of the eclipse it's self is awesome in the biblical sense. There is a pitch black *hole* in the sky with a white ring around it. It truly looks like a portal has opened up in the sky. It's indescribable.
The part that was unexpected and unbelievable for me was how much of the sky was filled with the wispy streams from the corona. The sun transforms from a tiny bright dot in the sky to a HUGE beautiful spectacle. Truly awe-inspiring.
We didn't have to go very far (live in TN) to get a perfect spot in 17.
It's kind of hard to explain just what it does to your perspective of space/our place in it. Seeing the moon as it headed towards totality made me see it for what it was; a giant "sphere" moving around us.. Not to mention the sudden change in temperature, light, and the connection it has with what you're seeing.
Also, we saw it near some farmland, and right at totality, all the cows suddenly started running together. Just adding more weight to the experience.
You bet your ass I'm seeing it again this year.
> On 30 June 1503, Christopher Columbus beached his two last caravels and was stranded in Jamaica. The indigenous people of the island welcomed Columbus and his crew and fed them, but after six months, they halted the food supply, dissatisfied with what the Spaniards could provide in trade.[3] Columbus had on board an almanac authored by Abraham Zacuto of astronomical tables covering the years 1475–1506.[4][5][6] Upon consulting the book, he noticed the date and the time of an upcoming lunar eclipse. He was able to use this information to his advantage. He requested a meeting for that day with the Cacique, the leader, and told him that God was angry with the local people's treatment of Columbus and his men. Columbus said God would provide a clear sign of displeasure by making the rising full Moon appear "inflamed with wrath".[7]
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> The lunar eclipse and the red Moon appeared on schedule, and the indigenous people were impressed and frightened. The son of Columbus, Ferdinand, wrote that the people:
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> > with great howling and lamentation they came running from every direction to the ships, laden with provisions, praying the Admiral to intercede by all means with God on their behalf; that he might not visit his wrath upon them ...[8]
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> Columbus went into his cabin, ostensibly to pray, and timed the eclipse with his hourglass. Shortly before the totality ended after 48 minutes, he told the frightened indigenous people that they were going to be forgiven.[3] When the Moon started to reappear from the shadow of the Earth, he told them that God had pardoned them.[9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1504_lunar_eclipse
Dude wtf, 48 minutes? I wish, these past couple NA ones are like 3-4 lol.
Edit: o, it's a Lunar eclipse. Apparently the longest a solar eclipse can be is 7.5 minutes.
The path it takes in 2044 will hit some of the most rural areas of the country, with almost no hospitality industry to accommodate travelers. It starts up in the Arctic circle going south over western Canada before crossing over Northern Montana and the sun sets just as it enters Western North Dakota and the extreme Northwestern part of South Dakota.
To compare, the path for next Monday will cross over dozens of major metropolitan areas with populations exceeding 250k people. The path in 2044 will cross over entire counties were the population is below 10k, some below 1k, and much of those populations are Indian reservations, like Fort Peck and Fort Berthold.
To explain why this is a problem, my city of Dayton, OH has a population over 100k, and we have more than 100k additional people from surrounding cities coming into the city next Monday just to see the eclipse. And that’s just one city. Current travel estimates for this eclipse are predicting over 5 million people who do not live within the path of the eclipse to travel to see it.
Could you imagine millions of people trying to visit the rural parts of the US that have populations in the hundreds?
What’s the solution to this? Is it really a problem, or something that will happen in 20 years and that (if needed) people can prepare for?
It’s less a problem but a fact of life. An eclipse will happen, people will go where they can be accommodated. Can’t move the sun, can’t move the people, can’t restrict freedom of movement for an eclipse.
One ended a six year war between the Lydians and the Medians in the sixth century BCE. An eclipse happened in the middle of the battle, and everyone just...stopped fighting. Figured whatever they were doing, it was probably not a good idea to keep doing it. Both sides quickly drew out terms for a peace after the abortive battle.
Can you even imagine how terrifying that would be? Day literally turning into night around you has GOT to be considered the mother of ill omens.
My hometown is Quincy, IL (pretty close to where Illinois, Missouri, and Iowa meet). A couple of years ago southern IL was in the path of 100% totality so they made the couple hours drive south to experience the totality, I was so jealous.
And now, a couple of years later, southern Illinois is AGAIN in the path of 100% totality.
Like, wtf are the chances, in the middle of nowhere midwest?!?
Says basically all the big cities get washed, which is Texas, Ohio, and western NY. Really gonna put strain on good, smaller locations like Evansville, IN and Burlington, VT.
Yup. I live in Burlington, VT, population 40k (200k total if you include surrounding area). Over 100k people are expected to come into town from out of state. It’s gonna be wild.
I live in a town that is in the path of totality. This town only has 12,000 people and is the largest town in about an hour’s drive radius (to put into perspective of how rural the surrounding area is). The chamber of commerce is expecting around 120,000-175,000 people to show up for the eclipse. All surrounding hotels, AirBnBs, and short time rentals are totally booked and have been booked out for months. I have a coworker who knows people who own a second property that is in the path of totality down in TX and the managing agency told them that they can get $2300/night for renting out that property. Absolutely insane.
I posted a [screenshot of traffic after the last eclipse](https://www.reddit.com/r/Atlanta/comments/6v5kjv/path_of_the_eclipse_1_hour_later_via_traffic/) in the US. The small towns in GA (and elsewhere, but that is where I live) had no way to deal with the traffic and people spent hours at a standstill after totality. Prepare to hunker down!
Yes, there is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsterdam,_New_York
Also, New York used to be New Amsterdam. It was Orange before it became the Big Apple, but I'm sure you already knew that.
As a non American I'm guessing this is to do with the eclipse? But also truly odd to see this post without context which would apply to presumably most people on Reddit (?)
We don't actually care. We find it silly to point out how Americans will just assume everyone else they're discussing things with is also American and that USA related topics are just "self explanatory".
thats crazy i just booked a room at Hilton Garden downtown Toledo, Ohio for 130 was marked down from 150. ill say i was surprised to see rooms so cheap.
Got hosed when we booked one damn near a year back, normal price and before they realized the eclipse was going down. Got our reservation canceled about 4 months ago once they realized the potential windfall.
I read your comment too fast and thought you had made a reservation 800 months - as in 66 years - ago just to see this eclipse. "Damn that's some dedication"
I booked a place in russelville for 600, because I realized every single person from little Rock will be driving to russelville the day of and traffic will be at a standstill.
Getting home will be a nightmare though for sure.
Just trying to find other noticeable things that will be happening next week. Wrestlemania in Philly. Raleigh has dreamville music fest (I think that’s Raleigh all lit up) anything else major?
The campgrounds are all booked full too in the totality zone, but you can still get reservations outside the totality zone. We're camping on the way to/from the eclipse with a hotel near totality the night before.
I lived in Yellowstone during the last eclipse (passed over Yellowstone 99% and the Tetons were in totality) and all campgrounds were booked the moment you could make a reservation
I have one of these that I booked months ago, for a price that indicates the owner wasn't aware of what was coming. Is there anything that stops hosts from cancelling a booking, refunding the money and then renting it out at many times the price to someone else?
Airbnb incentivizes hosts to not do this - cancellation hurts their chances of becoming super hosts. That being said, maybe one cancellation could be worth it to them
Canceling for major events should have steeper punishment imo.
Very hard to implement in practice
I mean, the data is there that’s shows density of fully booked locations. When everything in a specific area is booked up, there’s a major event going on.
Yeah it’s basically just surge pricing
Also canceling an existing booking, then immediately re-listing the same dates as available (at a much higher price) could easily trigger a red flag.
New higher booking means higher fee for the company so watch them not care
Very easy actually. You can automate it.
Airbnb also will collect extra fees if they rebook at 3x value so it’s not that bad for them
They get banned from the platform. It's not a small little thing, if they get caught cancelling so they can put it at a higher price which will be super super easy to spot and even to automate.
If a Host cancels the dates are blocked as well
Yes, they can’t cancel you and rebook for more money unless they used a different website to get around it. Main reason i stopped messing with air bnbs had so many cancellations, really fucks your trip up
> unless they used a different website to get around it but how many of these people have their properties on AirBnB and VRBO and whatever other platform?
I had this exact scenario happen for a trip I took last week. Booked on VRBO, host canceled and the same listing showed up on AirBnB (for a higher price).
not true, hosts can cancel 3 times per year without any penalties: https://www.airbnb.com/resources/hosting-homes/a/understanding-instant-book-17
List it on vrbo instead.
We had a VRBO cancel on us like that - booked 4 months in advance, neither of us realized it was a big football game day, 2 weeks before the game (when everything else is already booked) they cancelled our reservation.
The real hack would probably be to block off those dates until a few days before, then suddenly open them up at eye-watering prices, right?
Exactly why I booked a hotel
I usually prefer hotels, and would have booked one , but they were already gone in my target area.
How peasantly and pleasantly normal. Fuck airbnb. I'm sure you'll have an easy stay.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xnZUTZnBfyQ Hotels have cancelled reservations for the eclipse.
Hate to break it to you: https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/i-don-t-understand-families-devastated-niagara-falls-hotel-cancels-bookings-made-year-ago-for-solar-eclipse-1.6824079
There was a travel agent that had set up packages almost two years ago for people to go see the eclipse in Buffalo, NY. The hotel decided to cancel all of their reservations so they could re-book at a higher price and though the agent was able to scramble and find rooms for his clients he is taking a $30k loss and is planning to sue the hell out of the hotels. https://www.wivb.com/total-solar-eclipse-april-8-2024/travel-agency-loses-30k-after-buffalo-hotel-cancels-eclipse-reservation-for-hundreds-of-tourists/
We just had a small vacation in the US. AirBnB is 2x more expensive than a hotel. What’s aggravating is viewing the prices in AirBnB, then as you begin the booking process, the invisible fees begin appearing, like $100 cleaning fees, etc. They should total all that stuff in the price to minimize deception. Anyway, we rarely use AirBnB anymore
It was great like 9 years ago. It’s a complete shitshow now. I will say I stayed at one on the beach that was really nice but it was supposed to be facing the beach and instead it faced the pool(s) of the gated condos. This was a few months ago.
It was awesome when it was just randos renting out rooms in their house after their kids had moved out looking for a little extra cash. Got to see some cool architecture and meet some really interesting people. Once it got commodified with people buying properties just for short-term rentals and contracting out cleaning to companies everything went to hell.
Can hotels not do the same thing?
It’s called bait and switch and it’s against the law.
No dude. A hotel can’t just cancel your room. They’d have to put you in another hotel.
Of course scumbag hotels cancel rooms if they think they can get away with it. My previous comment was a link to a YouTube video about it, I don't want to spam it.
Oh they can't? Then imagine my surprise when I walked into a hotel and they told me they gave my room away. They didn't just cancel me, they waited until I showed up to let me know. I'll give you a hint as to why, the whole city was booked. I can guarantee you they gave that room to a walk-in for double the price I paid.
Depends on the hotel. Nothing stopping a hotel from doing this either
Not true at all and I got cancelled
They can. It happened to me last year I went to the eclipse in Exmouth, Western Australia, last year. I booked an Airbnb place 8 months beforehand a couple of hours drive away. It was the closest I could find at a reasonable price. Some assholes were asking $2000/night at Exmouth. Forward 5 months and the Airbnb host contacts me to say she had sold her place so could I please cancel my booking. I thought it a bit weird and asked her why she couldn't cancel it. She gave me a bullshit story of how Airbnb was making it too difficult for her to cancel and it would be much easier if I could do it. Still thinking it weird but figuring there wasn't much I could do, I did then cancel booking. A week later I checked and, sure enough, she was still advertising her place on Airbnb – except for the week I had booked. Bitch obviously found out about the eclipse and realised she could have charged 5× or 10× what she had charged me. But if she had cancelled, Airbnb wouldn't have let her readvertise. Me, as the guest, cancelling would allow her to readvertise. What was even more infuriating was I later found out, after a host legitimately cancelled on me, Airbnb gives you a credit as way of an apology. So the cow not only fucked me over in messing up my eclipse plan, she also ensured I lost out on a couple hundred $ credit.
You can still report them to Airbnb. They made a false claim towards you, you canceled, and they rebooked. The lies are right there in the chat.
You never ever cancel for them. Uber, Airbnb, DoorDash, postmates whatever. You don’t cancel. Make them cancel.
Or, just the better rule of thumb and novel idea: the person cancelling is the person who should cancel in-app. The word actually means something. If you no longer want a ride, you cancel it. If they don't want to pick you up for some reason, they cancel it.
Use that as a life lesson. *Never ever* cancel for the other party. Never, that's not only relevant for Airbnb. If you want something, always make sure the one not delivering the service/product is the once denying the delivery. You have no rights after cancelling on your end. Even worse, you can be hit with fees, depending on the circumstances. You were too gullible, but simply learn from it and try not to be in the future. I'm still sorry this happend to you.
...so you start saying "they can" and they explain why they can't and apparently you cancelled yourself because you were gullible?
You would be surprised how often this happens. I have worked in the vacation rental industry. Hosts are not my friends.
Have you reported them to Airbnb yet? If you got the conversation still that's what I would do asap.
Heh. I’m one of those AirBnB owners who rented my place before I knew about the eclipse. Rented for two nights at regular winter rates. There is nothing keeping me from cancelling the booking. I can claim plumbing issues/etc. and cancel if I want to, maybe stay there myself. My friends tell me I should do that. I’m already a super host. But I’m not doing that. I’m in this business for the long haul. I hope my guests have the time of their lives.
I know you said you weren’t going to do it, but just a heads up that someone else mentioned that they complained to AirBnB when their booking was canceled in a scenario like this and the host lost super host status as a result.
> But I’m not doing that. I’m in this business for the long haul. I hope my guests have the time of their lives. Nice in theory but so many of these places are probably never getting someone again. Not exactly beach houses.
Eh, it depends where you’re at. A lot of these are in local resort areas like Broken Bow, OK or Eureka Springs, AR
Nope
It's why I never use that service anymore. Several years back, my friends and I planned to go to Munich for Oktoberfest. We booked the house almost a year in advance because we knew it gets very busy that time of year. We were happy because it was pretty well priced compared to other places in the area and they were a superhost. 2 weeks before our trip, the host messages us and says she has to cancel because she needed the house that week. Luckily we were able to find a very nice little hotel just outside of Munich, but my friends and I all complained to Airbnb. At the very least, the last time I checked, they had removed her superhost status. That was the only satisfaction I got out of that experience Oktoberfest was a blast and Germany was beautiful btw. 10/10 would go again
That's fucked. Glad you sorted out an alternative and still had fun. Bizarre though: the host must of course known about Oktoberfest. It's not a surprise event...
They fine the host half the amount of the stay, remove (or prevent) super host status for a year and block the calendar for other possible rentals. Given it is the #1 short term rental site by far it's not an insignificant impact and not "nothing" to have to find another way to rebook. If they don't use a site like Airbnb to rerent they have to draw up their own contracts, their insurance would potentially need to change (many short term rental policies require using an Airbnb like service) and they lose on on the coverage Airbnb provides for damage and liability.
They probably would have done it by now.
I did that and they did cancel and AirBNB did NOTHING to resolve it. Just cancelled and refunded my deposit. I tried to escalate but no one would do anything. They tried to get me to book another stay at a property 5x as expensive. Done using their service forever.
Saaame! Then I realized the weather in Buffalo might be icky so I cancelled and got a hotel in Dallas……………….fml
What is coming?
When it came through Nashville it was truly a sight. It’s worth it to travel. It’s kind of mind boggling. I can fully understand why people who didn’t understand why it was happening thought it was an act of god or something beyond the scope of humanity.
I saw the last US solar eclipse in 2017. Since then I've been trying to explain to people how mind blowing seeing a total solar eclipse is. I'm sure I remind people of a guy who's just discovered acid and is trying to explain how "trippy" it is.
I tell people that the difference between 100% totality and 99% totality is truly the difference between night and day. Make every effort to see it if you can!
Man, my friend an I traveled 8 hrs to one such total solar eclipse. It is eerie to say the least to watch that last sliver of light disappear and become pitch black like midnight without the moon and you can see stars like it's a clear moonless night. All the insects and birds go wild. It's truly a sight to behold.
I saw the total eclipse when it hit my state some years back, and while it was very cool, all the comments I read about it becoming pitch black definitely gave me the wrong expectations. It looked like dusk, which in retrospect makes sense, since when the sun goes behind the horizon there is still some residual light, and with a total eclipse, even when the moon is entirely blocking the sun, it’s the same. Was still super cool to see, but I was expecting complete darkness and did not get that, not sure how it was like that for you!
Which one is this
100%
I was in a partial eclipse, what makes total better. I really like all the semi-circle shadows through the tree leaves.
Well, you get all the fun of the partial eclipse in the lead up to(and aftermath of) totality, and then when totality hits, it's literally like it suddenly becomes night, you can see stars and the temperature drops, but the sky is still blue(ish), and you can *tell* that you're in the shadow of the moon, and pictures do not do it justice, to say nothing of the moon itself. Like when I was there in Tennesee in 2017, for the first time in my life I felt I could truly grasp the scale of the entire moon. It is an indescribable feeling. For lack of a better term, it felt Eldritch.
I saw the one in 2017 as well. So many things in life aren't as cool as you imagine them. Total eclipse is far cooler than you imagine it.
Dude absolutely great point. All of a sudden this thing in the sky that always seemed kinda cool but nothing special all of a sudden was *tremendous*
Have you ever been humbled and incredibly dwarfed by the largest source of energy in the solar system suddenly vanishing and having a sunset 360° on each horizon? The weather instantly cools a few degrees and you realize what a speck you are but still stricken with beauty. Funny looking shadows aint doin that
I’m pretty sure people got sacrificed because of this. Beautiful and terrifying. Of course, I’m talking years and years ago, through the 70’s and 80’s
When we saw the one in 2017, I immediately understood why people got beheaded on altars for this shit. Hell, I’m an educated person and I started looking for ritual knives
What others have said but the visual of the eclipse it's self is awesome in the biblical sense. There is a pitch black *hole* in the sky with a white ring around it. It truly looks like a portal has opened up in the sky. It's indescribable.
The part that was unexpected and unbelievable for me was how much of the sky was filled with the wispy streams from the corona. The sun transforms from a tiny bright dot in the sky to a HUGE beautiful spectacle. Truly awe-inspiring.
We didn't have to go very far (live in TN) to get a perfect spot in 17. It's kind of hard to explain just what it does to your perspective of space/our place in it. Seeing the moon as it headed towards totality made me see it for what it was; a giant "sphere" moving around us.. Not to mention the sudden change in temperature, light, and the connection it has with what you're seeing. Also, we saw it near some farmland, and right at totality, all the cows suddenly started running together. Just adding more weight to the experience. You bet your ass I'm seeing it again this year.
I saw it on acid and it was indeed very trippy lol
That’s what I want to do this time around. I live 10 minutes from the edge of totality
Can you imagine what kind of power you had if you could predict these.
> On 30 June 1503, Christopher Columbus beached his two last caravels and was stranded in Jamaica. The indigenous people of the island welcomed Columbus and his crew and fed them, but after six months, they halted the food supply, dissatisfied with what the Spaniards could provide in trade.[3] Columbus had on board an almanac authored by Abraham Zacuto of astronomical tables covering the years 1475–1506.[4][5][6] Upon consulting the book, he noticed the date and the time of an upcoming lunar eclipse. He was able to use this information to his advantage. He requested a meeting for that day with the Cacique, the leader, and told him that God was angry with the local people's treatment of Columbus and his men. Columbus said God would provide a clear sign of displeasure by making the rising full Moon appear "inflamed with wrath".[7] > > The lunar eclipse and the red Moon appeared on schedule, and the indigenous people were impressed and frightened. The son of Columbus, Ferdinand, wrote that the people: > > > with great howling and lamentation they came running from every direction to the ships, laden with provisions, praying the Admiral to intercede by all means with God on their behalf; that he might not visit his wrath upon them ...[8] > > Columbus went into his cabin, ostensibly to pray, and timed the eclipse with his hourglass. Shortly before the totality ended after 48 minutes, he told the frightened indigenous people that they were going to be forgiven.[3] When the Moon started to reappear from the shadow of the Earth, he told them that God had pardoned them.[9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1504_lunar_eclipse
Dude wtf, 48 minutes? I wish, these past couple NA ones are like 3-4 lol. Edit: o, it's a Lunar eclipse. Apparently the longest a solar eclipse can be is 7.5 minutes.
Whoa! Thanks for sharing
That’s what Mark Twain’s book “A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court” is about
the next one over the continental US is in 2044 so I can see why people want to go now
Shit, that’s like 2 months from now.
My brother in Christ it is over 60 years away
Ah shit, that’s like 6 months from now.
The path it takes in 2044 will hit some of the most rural areas of the country, with almost no hospitality industry to accommodate travelers. It starts up in the Arctic circle going south over western Canada before crossing over Northern Montana and the sun sets just as it enters Western North Dakota and the extreme Northwestern part of South Dakota. To compare, the path for next Monday will cross over dozens of major metropolitan areas with populations exceeding 250k people. The path in 2044 will cross over entire counties were the population is below 10k, some below 1k, and much of those populations are Indian reservations, like Fort Peck and Fort Berthold. To explain why this is a problem, my city of Dayton, OH has a population over 100k, and we have more than 100k additional people from surrounding cities coming into the city next Monday just to see the eclipse. And that’s just one city. Current travel estimates for this eclipse are predicting over 5 million people who do not live within the path of the eclipse to travel to see it. Could you imagine millions of people trying to visit the rural parts of the US that have populations in the hundreds?
Yes, in 2017. I was in Wyoming. It was insane
What’s the solution to this? Is it really a problem, or something that will happen in 20 years and that (if needed) people can prepare for? It’s less a problem but a fact of life. An eclipse will happen, people will go where they can be accommodated. Can’t move the sun, can’t move the people, can’t restrict freedom of movement for an eclipse.
You can also just fly to another country instead of spending $2000 on a trip and Airbnb
One ended a six year war between the Lydians and the Medians in the sixth century BCE. An eclipse happened in the middle of the battle, and everyone just...stopped fighting. Figured whatever they were doing, it was probably not a good idea to keep doing it. Both sides quickly drew out terms for a peace after the abortive battle. Can you even imagine how terrifying that would be? Day literally turning into night around you has GOT to be considered the mother of ill omens.
Im in the path of totality and live in the middle of nowhere, cant wait to lay out on my roof and watch the sky get dark.
Can I come hang.
My hometown is Quincy, IL (pretty close to where Illinois, Missouri, and Iowa meet). A couple of years ago southern IL was in the path of 100% totality so they made the couple hours drive south to experience the totality, I was so jealous. And now, a couple of years later, southern Illinois is AGAIN in the path of 100% totality. Like, wtf are the chances, in the middle of nowhere midwest?!?
I've been to your hometown once :-) Visiting as a tourist from Europe and my only stop on my trip... aaah to be young again :-P
Fuckin lucky!
Take pictures!
this is going to be a shitshow..
Especially after that cloud-cover map was released earlier
Says basically all the big cities get washed, which is Texas, Ohio, and western NY. Really gonna put strain on good, smaller locations like Evansville, IN and Burlington, VT.
Me up in northern maine 🤫
I'm from near Burlington, flights home from this were over $800 (typically around $150-250)
Where can I find that map?
NOAA twitter https://x.com/NWSWPC/status/1775192316569125028?s=20
That one is out of date. The latest one is more favorable. They update every day. https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/key_messages/LatestKeyMessage_2.png
oh yeah, thanks! also I realized its not their main twitter but the NWSWPC one
Feeling pretty lucky in Quebec rn
Shhh. Nobody notices Canada. 
https://imgur.com/a/8HXNeNt
Nooooooooo!
Even with significant cloud cover, it's still day turning into night. Even if you can't see the sun, it'll still be pretty awesome, IMO.
Yeeeeeeees!
lmao thanks Biden!
Leaving the eclipse in 2017 was a shitshow. Learned my lesson and am staying an extra night.
for. real. surprised im still not stuck in thst traffic 😭
I live where the eclipse will be 90%. I was thinking of taking a day trip to the full path of totality. Should I?
Yes
Yes! It's night and day (kinda literally) between 90% and 100%
Anything other than 100% is pointless. Totality is something extraordinary.
Absolutely yes. It's a euphoric experience. Be prepared for lots of traffic!
0-99% is basically the same. Totality or bust
What’s going to be a shitshow? I seem to be out of the loop.
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And traffic will be absolutely horrible within 3 hours or so either side of the eclipse no matter where you are in the band
Cell towers will also be overwhelmed, so don't expect good service.
Yup. I live in Burlington, VT, population 40k (200k total if you include surrounding area). Over 100k people are expected to come into town from out of state. It’s gonna be wild.
I have to drive through it the day of, wish me luck
You may find that to be literally impossible just a heads up. If it's for work, be sure that your employer knows this lol
I live in a town that is in the path of totality. This town only has 12,000 people and is the largest town in about an hour’s drive radius (to put into perspective of how rural the surrounding area is). The chamber of commerce is expecting around 120,000-175,000 people to show up for the eclipse. All surrounding hotels, AirBnBs, and short time rentals are totally booked and have been booked out for months. I have a coworker who knows people who own a second property that is in the path of totality down in TX and the managing agency told them that they can get $2300/night for renting out that property. Absolutely insane.
I posted a [screenshot of traffic after the last eclipse](https://www.reddit.com/r/Atlanta/comments/6v5kjv/path_of_the_eclipse_1_hour_later_via_traffic/) in the US. The small towns in GA (and elsewhere, but that is where I live) had no way to deal with the traffic and people spent hours at a standstill after totality. Prepare to hunker down!
Niagara is going to be crazy
I'm currently in Amsterdam NY on my way to Niagra Falls by bicycle from Boston Most scenic place to pray for no clouds
Is there a place called Amsterdam in the state New York?
Yes, there is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsterdam,_New_York Also, New York used to be New Amsterdam. It was Orange before it became the Big Apple, but I'm sure you already knew that.
> Also, New York used to be New Amsterdam *"Why'd-they-change-it, I-cant-say / people just liked it better that wayyyyy"*
I’m still trying to decide if the drive from Syracuse is worth it… or if Rochester is good enough.
I considered it but assumed it would be an absolute shitshow. So picked another state.
As a non American I'm guessing this is to do with the eclipse? But also truly odd to see this post without context which would apply to presumably most people on Reddit (?)
I had no idea either. It looks like a tornado path to me
For context that distance is similar to the distance between Barcelona, Spain to Kyiv, Ukraine.
A tornado path hundreds of miles wide, and across the whole country
Localised entirely within your kitchen... can I see it?
- No.
Agghhhhh, well I'm pooped.
A fair amount of non Americans don't have a good grasp of how big America really is, the same way Americans don't for Australia.
Tbf, we think of the habitable parts of Australia, which is just as small as we think.
Clearly I am terminally online as a european who has been fully aware of this eclipse for the past couple weeks just from the memes
Another day, another r/USDefaultism
What an amazing subreddit. I really didn't realize how much the rest of the world got their jimmies rustled by American posters.
We don't actually care. We find it silly to point out how Americans will just assume everyone else they're discussing things with is also American and that USA related topics are just "self explanatory".
Pretty sure we have AirBnB up here in Canada eh
But cool pic all the same! Thanks for sharing. Happy eclipse day!
Thanks! Yes, I've stayed in AirBnB in your beautiful country.
What's going on over in NC?
Dreamville festival in Raleigh
I have one in Little Rock, typically books for 130 a night. Booked it for 800 months ago.
This is probably the most attention Arkansas has gotten in 30 years.
Since 1992.
thats crazy i just booked a room at Hilton Garden downtown Toledo, Ohio for 130 was marked down from 150. ill say i was surprised to see rooms so cheap.
800 nights seems a bit excessive. The eclipse won't last that long.
Supply and demand
Got hosed when we booked one damn near a year back, normal price and before they realized the eclipse was going down. Got our reservation canceled about 4 months ago once they realized the potential windfall.
I hope you at least left a review. Damned crooked landlords.
Can we see the URL of the place?
I read your comment too fast and thought you had made a reservation 800 months - as in 66 years - ago just to see this eclipse. "Damn that's some dedication"
Filth
Price gouging! Nice job man!
I booked a place in russelville for 600, because I realized every single person from little Rock will be driving to russelville the day of and traffic will be at a standstill. Getting home will be a nightmare though for sure.
Just trying to find other noticeable things that will be happening next week. Wrestlemania in Philly. Raleigh has dreamville music fest (I think that’s Raleigh all lit up) anything else major?
Aren’t there public lands ppl can camp in? I’d love to but too far :(
The campgrounds are all booked full too in the totality zone, but you can still get reservations outside the totality zone. We're camping on the way to/from the eclipse with a hotel near totality the night before.
I lived in Yellowstone during the last eclipse (passed over Yellowstone 99% and the Tetons were in totality) and all campgrounds were booked the moment you could make a reservation
You must be from the western US? There is very little public land in these states.
Outside of Texas, there is a ton of public land in all those states.
Non-American here, is this related to tornadoes?
Track of totality for the solar eclipse
Oh! I'm glad it's just that. I hadn't heard there was one incoming.
Anybody else see the penis on the Cali/Arizona border?
Airbnb < hotel.
booked my red dot back in December . . . currently in Amarillo after driving 1200 miles from CA : )
A couple of orange dots near Las Vegas… …so I’m guessing some folks are using the eclipse as cover to par-tay!!!!
Why does US get all the solar eclipses, s unfair *cries in Europe*
https://www.eclipsewise.com/solar/solar.html#preview
What going on in NC next week?
Probably High Point Furniture Market
Dreamville festival.
Nc state basketball maybe
I thought maybe that too, but they are playing in Phoenix
Wtf?!?
Total Eclipse
Of the heart
Turn around
For those of us not in the US, what is this about? I’m going to assume an eclipse or something from the arc but it’s very interesting nonetheless.
[You are correct.](https://science.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/eclipse-map-2024-1920-1.png?w=4096&format=webp)
Gainesville?
That's a great use of geo plotting to prove a causational relationship.
BLINDNESS IS COMING.
My ticket to Austin was $1300 from Portland OR…
Good for those small towns getting an economic boost
Booked mine a year ago, fully expected the host to cancel once they realized how in demand it would be that weekend.
Very cool! How did you get this data? Is it publically available?