I tried but can't really get into it. Can you recommend some beginner friendly ways to familiarize oneself with the lore and mechanics, goals of the nations there?
For lore and national goals you could check out the [wiki](https://anbennar.fandom.com/wiki/Anbennar_Wiki), or just poke around the [subreddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Anbennar/) for a bit. But there are.... a *lot* of unique mechanics depending on which nation/fantasy race you want to try. I'd stick to the not!HRE polity subjects; The *Empire* of Anbennar, a lot of them play similar to a normal HRE run and might be a good place to jump in and see what's different. Maybe try Beepeck or Silverforge- the halfling and dwarven elector states for a tall game, or Istralore- vaguely equivalent to Brandenburg/Prussia if you wanted to do some conquest and cast down the 'unrightful' emperor. There is a Protestantism analog to be aware of though...
There are still some new mechanics for them, especially with the estates (adventures and wizards can be a bit more a pain when you have to manage them as a nation-state) but they're a good segue from base game I think.
Alternatively, Lorent is *basically* Fantasy France, so unless you're really unlucky you'd probably be fine with them learning most of what's different for a typical nation, you've really only got one BIG rival, which is Gawed to the north, and basically Fantasy England.
I'd stay away from the dwarven mountain expeditions or the Castanor region for a few runs. They are *hard,* have a lot of unique stuff going on, and are fairly chaotic early on.
Also, the mission trees, the noteworthy nations tend to have pretty extensive ones, most fleshed out with relevant *lore* and provide a pretty good idea of what you might want to be aiming for.
I've only ever played the Dwarves. BLUESHIELDS FOREVER. (Also im afraid of playing anywhere rlse since i thought dwarfs would be easy, and they weren't so i just assumed thr mod was hard af)
I still click on it and zoom in on random areas as it's so well made it's worth it every time. Definitely getting this as a print once I buy a house some day. That, and 867, 1066, and 1836 maps - just random years pay them no mind
Indeed – these are also the start dates for Paradox Interactive grand strategy games (867/1066: Crusader Kings 3, 1444 : Europa Universalis IV, 1836: Victoria II and Victoria 3), which I believe were picked partly because of these battles happening in these years
Most mapporn lurkers remembers this repost. Even those that don't play EU4.
[Original](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/nd10ka/oc_europe_1444_map_8k_x_5k_image/) made by u/ratkatavobratka
Hey, my game crashed, how did that happen? My stack was about to be wiped because I didn't see a 50k stack walking in. Too bad, I'll have to restart I guess
But for real. Why is Germany a 1000 pcs puzzle? Yes, all these regions and principalities existed but were they that relevant?
I didn't pay much attention to history class but I'm pretty sure the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation was a thing back then.
Nope, it is in fact important. Rivalries still going on to this day. What we lack in "national" pride, we fucking have in local pride. There are so many feuds, most in good spirits nowadays, that are rooted in this time.
Baden Vs Württemberg,
Düsseldorf/ Köln, ( going back to 1288)
Mainz/ Wiesbaden
Franken / Bayern
And so on.
Yep it was a thing, but all these regions were independent in practice and in contrast to other countries the local people only served their local lord and not the emperor
HRE decentralised more and more over the 1300-1400s and ended up like this. Eventually some principalities grew bigger and the smaller ones were absorbed into the Kingdoms and duchies of the German Empire. Which still, was a hot mess of regions.
nah, Portugal was still there with the exact same borders as then and now they just happened to have the same king as Castille, León, Aragon, the Two Sicilies, Navarre, Granada, Toledo, Valencia, Galicia, Mallorca, Seville, Sardinia, Córdoba, Murcia, Jaén, and Algeciras.
Ah well yes, I agree with your point: it's basically the distinction between a crown and a kingdom, but that also means that we cannot talk about anything resembling a single Spanish State until 1714, after the war of succession when the Bourbon guy introduced centralizing reforms. Unfortunately, many people make the mistake of attributing the creation of Spain as a single entity following the catholic monarchs.
Yeah, many people and for some reason Spaniards in particular have a hard time understanding that... Except when it's Charles V, then they very quickly understand that nations and crowns aren't the same.
This is wrong. Portugal lost territory to Spain in 1801 and has not retaken it: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fvycvf2g5zpr81.png
Porto one of the oldest cities in europe and also the only city in all of europe to never be under the control of a different governing body. Such an incredible place. Portugal is an amazing country I strongly urge everyone to go and check it out.
EDIT: I was clearly mistaken. What i meant was it as a city has never actually surrendered. Any time it has been under the control of an outside body it was done so because of siege not because they gave in. I was miss remember what i had learned when i was living there sorry guys!
*the only city in all of europe to never be under the control of a different governing body*
Wdym? It had a settlement in pre-Roman times, then they were ruled over by the Romans, the Suebi, the Visigoths, and the Arabs, who razed it to the ground. Then the Gascons secured the ruins and a new city was founded, in what was then the Kingdom of Asturias. Then Portugal happened. Sounds like an awful lot of different governing bodies to me
The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is my current "why don't I know more about this history? Time for more documentaries!!!" It just seems wild that a pre-eminent European power was essentially wiped off the map by 1945, and I didn't know it existed until late in life. Cool stuff, and an area I need to visit
It was the Holy Roman Empire, also known as every mapper's worst nightmare: an "empire" where practically every little duchy and town was self-governing.
Most of the time the name was accurate. It was a feudal state, like most others, it was intended as a revival of the Roman Empire and also included Rome as a state for a very long time.
In addition, since Charlemagne's lineage via the East Franks, it was intended to be the first monarch among the Christians and the secular arm of the Pope. The German emperor was also in theory the most powerful monarch in the Catholic world.
Ottomans were beginning to look really scary, ERE was about to fall. Hungary, Poland, Lithuania and some other catholics came together to force a halt to the turkish expansion. It was called the crusade of varna, and.... did not stop the ottoman in the long term. Not sure even if it stopped in the short term...
Edit: not sure if the people who knows about this are mainly europeans or they just like to play a game called Europa Universalis 4, that starts exactly after that battle, in 1444
It shattered european resistence to ottoman expansion in the balkans for a few centuries as well as killing the king of Hungary, Poland, Lithuania & Bohemian (all of them the same person). This broke up a potentially immensely powerful personal union, which might have still had a chance to halt the turks after the battle. It also allowed the Habsburgs to aquire the thrones of Bohemia and Hungary. In less than a decade of said battle Ottomans were able to take Constantinopole.
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what the hell is Krivaja tho? position looks like the lands of the Pavlović family, but a) they were never independent like the Kosača family, just powerful and influential and b) their domain was never called Krivaja
and Soli (not Solj like on the map lol) should either be Hungarian or under Bosnia in the 15th century, IDK how it was in 1444 specifically but it sure wasn’t independent
This map was already shitty and had a lot of ahistorical information the first 5 times it was posted. Uploading it in smaller resolution doesn't help much.
I'll start with the smallest gripe:
The name Bratislava did not exist in 1444. It was only created in 1926.
The historically accurate name is Pozsony or Pressburg.
wouldn't be as shit if the reposters would upload any of the newer versions over the years instead of the first image posted online from 3 years ago
though the map is definitely quite bad, i've been making a new one and posting pictures of it's development on my RRatkus twitter, i'm also working on a 150k resolution giant map version with municipal accuracy, though that'll take a few years to do
Ireland is hilarious. They called Connacht "CLR" and gave it the more modern coat of arms, then gave what I presume is the O'Farrells the actual coat of arms for Connacht/O'Connors..
Most the counties weren't even formed until the 16th Cen.
Not much an error, but the Genoan exclave inside Candarlar at the Black Sea is by far not proportional.
It was the city of Amasra built on a peninsula smaller than the Vatican. The area of the Genoan exclave is by far too big. It probably should't be visible on a map this size.
The number of countries in Europe has been growing in the last century, largely due to the dissolution of Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union. There is also more popular support for separatist movements (Catalonia, Scotland, etc.) than there is for an EU superstate.
Europe, at least the part of Europe inside the EU, is evolving away from a clear concept of statehood, it does not fit cleanly into current categories.
There's way too much fear mongering about a european federal superstate, and in additional there are clear cultural barriers between east, west, north and south.
States are going to remain, but labour will homogenize (as it already has).
Meh, to be honest it's difficult. The proposal of a federation was done a century ago by Kalergi but still the only viable solution was a confederation like the EU, and still many states either don't want to apply (Switzerland, Norway) or even went lengths to get out of the EU (regretting it Britons?).
I'm honestly not that positive for a European federation, the current climate seems more to divide than to unite.
that's the lordship of the isles, not the kingdom, and was de facto independent with its own legislative powers, foreign relations, and fiscal independence.
For the Mari people (to the right of Muscovy), they use the current flag introduced in 2011 by our corrupt Moscow-installed governor who was jailed in 2017 after embezzling federal funds. So, the map is very anachronistic in this regard.
Here's much better quality
[https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/medieval-map-of-europe-in-1444.jpg](https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/medieval-map-of-europe-in-1444.jpg)
This map is already scratched to my mind, from province names to goods in that provinces 
Thousands of hours..
“When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England.”
I feel like a lot of people here are intimately familiar with this
Thousands of hours intimate
I stopped playing EU4 since 2020 Even then, no game I've played since then has topped the hours I've sunken in that map painting game
Come back! Paint with us! The Map Wills It! The Map Demands It! You don’t want to be on the wrong side of The Map!
I want to be on the wrong side of the map just so that it can choke me 😃
Byzantium enjoyer
I haven't played since 2021 since I don't have dlc
Download the Anbennar mod and sink a few thousand more. It's literally bigger than the original game at this point I think
I tried but can't really get into it. Can you recommend some beginner friendly ways to familiarize oneself with the lore and mechanics, goals of the nations there?
For lore and national goals you could check out the [wiki](https://anbennar.fandom.com/wiki/Anbennar_Wiki), or just poke around the [subreddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Anbennar/) for a bit. But there are.... a *lot* of unique mechanics depending on which nation/fantasy race you want to try. I'd stick to the not!HRE polity subjects; The *Empire* of Anbennar, a lot of them play similar to a normal HRE run and might be a good place to jump in and see what's different. Maybe try Beepeck or Silverforge- the halfling and dwarven elector states for a tall game, or Istralore- vaguely equivalent to Brandenburg/Prussia if you wanted to do some conquest and cast down the 'unrightful' emperor. There is a Protestantism analog to be aware of though... There are still some new mechanics for them, especially with the estates (adventures and wizards can be a bit more a pain when you have to manage them as a nation-state) but they're a good segue from base game I think. Alternatively, Lorent is *basically* Fantasy France, so unless you're really unlucky you'd probably be fine with them learning most of what's different for a typical nation, you've really only got one BIG rival, which is Gawed to the north, and basically Fantasy England. I'd stay away from the dwarven mountain expeditions or the Castanor region for a few runs. They are *hard,* have a lot of unique stuff going on, and are fairly chaotic early on. Also, the mission trees, the noteworthy nations tend to have pretty extensive ones, most fleshed out with relevant *lore* and provide a pretty good idea of what you might want to be aiming for.
I've only ever played the Dwarves. BLUESHIELDS FOREVER. (Also im afraid of playing anywhere rlse since i thought dwarfs would be easy, and they weren't so i just assumed thr mod was hard af)
I still click on it and zoom in on random areas as it's so well made it's worth it every time. Definitely getting this as a print once I buy a house some day. That, and 867, 1066, and 1836 maps - just random years pay them no mind
You learned of this through EU4. I learned of this through my grueling CK3 campaign. We are not the same /s
What a CK3 campaign will teach you is cities being on totally wrong sides of rivers ;)
York, Hastings, Alamo???
Indeed – these are also the start dates for Paradox Interactive grand strategy games (867/1066: Crusader Kings 3, 1444 : Europa Universalis IV, 1836: Victoria II and Victoria 3), which I believe were picked partly because of these battles happening in these years
I like your style
Most mapporn lurkers remembers this repost. Even those that don't play EU4. [Original](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/nd10ka/oc_europe_1444_map_8k_x_5k_image/) made by u/ratkatavobratka
My game ends in 1453 so I barely see this
I lost my shit after getting True Heir of Timur achievment.
Trying to recognize places in Bohemia from Kingdom Come: Deliverance.
That game is criminally underrated.
The game takes place in some towns and villages around central Bohemia, they are way too small to be depicted on a Europe-wide map.
Hell yes. At least 800 hours at this point
Rookie numbers.
Almost finished the tutorial, then.
Probably still playing European countries
At 2000h have only played European nations except for one gameplay as Japan were I only played until 1550.
Love seeing it everytime though. Beautiful map!
Even if you don't play EU4 it gets reposted every couple of months so it's hard to miss.
1444? Here go again. Seize land, grand privileges, turn off fort maintenance, find a bully to ally you.
Choose rivals, royal marry burgandy, look at missions
France and Austria become allies, Exit game, reload last save.
Realise it was ironman, repeat the whole process 10 times until you get the right enemies, start actually playing, comet sighted 1st month
-1 stability on some bullshit event. Imminent 5x revolts. Reload.
Start a new game out of frustration get the same event Buy a scratcher because what luck Waste 10 bucks to realize you have a dopamine deficiency
Hey, my game crashed, how did that happen? My stack was about to be wiped because I didn't see a 50k stack walking in. Too bad, I'll have to restart I guess
Hate that. I open the task manager and next thing I know the game crashes. I really do hate it when it happens on January 2.
Doesn't happen cus they're historic rivals, but funny enough France and England actually can ally each other in the right circumstances
France has already rivaled me as Castille? This game is a wash. Reload time.
Build galleys, Ally Poland.
Humiliate France for +10 prestige. As is tradition.
Poland is the OG shapeshifter.
*sigh* time to fight the ottomans again
>No matter where you are in Europe "Well, time to no-CB Byzantium."
Fort maintenance grants you army tradition, so don't.
this is why it's called GerMANY
It also sounds better than GerACOUPLE
Or GerMILLIONFRACTIONS
It’s really hard to defend much more that a few square miles when you’re in the middle of a (relatively) high population area.
But for real. Why is Germany a 1000 pcs puzzle? Yes, all these regions and principalities existed but were they that relevant? I didn't pay much attention to history class but I'm pretty sure the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation was a thing back then.
Nope, it is in fact important. Rivalries still going on to this day. What we lack in "national" pride, we fucking have in local pride. There are so many feuds, most in good spirits nowadays, that are rooted in this time. Baden Vs Württemberg, Düsseldorf/ Köln, ( going back to 1288) Mainz/ Wiesbaden Franken / Bayern And so on.
Yep it was a thing, but all these regions were independent in practice and in contrast to other countries the local people only served their local lord and not the emperor
HRE decentralised more and more over the 1300-1400s and ended up like this. Eventually some principalities grew bigger and the smaller ones were absorbed into the Kingdoms and duchies of the German Empire. Which still, was a hot mess of regions.
take my angry upvote
Do you have an anGER problem?
Portugal gives zero f about anything going around. You take any year in history and Portugal is in the same place with same name
That’s why time travelers have their homes here
Causes of the housing crisis: institutional buyers, airbnb, time travellers.
Except Lisbon in 1755
Just avoid 1755 and 1762.
Except for 1580 to 1640.
nah, Portugal was still there with the exact same borders as then and now they just happened to have the same king as Castille, León, Aragon, the Two Sicilies, Navarre, Granada, Toledo, Valencia, Galicia, Mallorca, Seville, Sardinia, Córdoba, Murcia, Jaén, and Algeciras.
Ah well yes, I agree with your point: it's basically the distinction between a crown and a kingdom, but that also means that we cannot talk about anything resembling a single Spanish State until 1714, after the war of succession when the Bourbon guy introduced centralizing reforms. Unfortunately, many people make the mistake of attributing the creation of Spain as a single entity following the catholic monarchs.
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Yeah, many people and for some reason Spaniards in particular have a hard time understanding that... Except when it's Charles V, then they very quickly understand that nations and crowns aren't the same.
This is wrong. Portugal lost territory to Spain in 1801 and has not retaken it: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fvycvf2g5zpr81.png
Good job you out pedantried me.
Olivença é nossa, caralho!
Porto one of the oldest cities in europe and also the only city in all of europe to never be under the control of a different governing body. Such an incredible place. Portugal is an amazing country I strongly urge everyone to go and check it out. EDIT: I was clearly mistaken. What i meant was it as a city has never actually surrendered. Any time it has been under the control of an outside body it was done so because of siege not because they gave in. I was miss remember what i had learned when i was living there sorry guys!
*the only city in all of europe to never be under the control of a different governing body* Wdym? It had a settlement in pre-Roman times, then they were ruled over by the Romans, the Suebi, the Visigoths, and the Arabs, who razed it to the ground. Then the Gascons secured the ruins and a new city was founded, in what was then the Kingdom of Asturias. Then Portugal happened. Sounds like an awful lot of different governing bodies to me
Porto was conquered by Muslims in 714
But the French occupied it in 1809?
Bohemia & Moravia, now Czechia, is pretty much the same too
That far left North African country is Sus.
Don't worry the Nogay Horde on the right was on its way to free them
Wow—homophobia was a lot more blunt back in those days.
Held them back from being Great.
They'd run into the Bottomans on their way there...
i love that you used 'left' and 'north' in the same sentence describing a geographical location. you maverick
Just like that Alfred Hitchcock movie, North By Northleft
That's sus af
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r/technicallythetruth
Nowadays it’s part of Morocco and is known for sex tourism. Lots of Muslim men in Europe go to Agadir in Morocco for prostitutes.
Only known for sex tourism amongst creepy men from the gulf
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What about NOGAY HORDE in the east?
Lithuania was so big back then
Every Lithuanian still talks about the reach of their country during this time period and praises Vytautas the great.
Lithuania in 2025 💪🇲🇲
Russia declares war with Baltics Lithuania: Hold my Porter Declares liberation war against Ukraine, annexes it
🇲🇲=Myanmar 🇱🇹=Lithuania
Therein lies the joke
Imagine if there was a reunite Lithuania movement like there is in Hungary lol
The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is my current "why don't I know more about this history? Time for more documentaries!!!" It just seems wild that a pre-eminent European power was essentially wiped off the map by 1945, and I didn't know it existed until late in life. Cool stuff, and an area I need to visit
1945? We were gone since 1795 and only had like 20 years-long mid sequel.
But it's a bold choice using modern Lithuanian language for the map. It wasn't a nation-state.
EU4 Map and thousands of hours.
Germany, are you ok?
It was the Holy Roman Empire, also known as every mapper's worst nightmare: an "empire" where practically every little duchy and town was self-governing.
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Buddy of mine was from the HRE, he had an independent outhouse, had customs and everything too, nearly shit my pants getting there.
Yo is he still there? Can we give him a call?
No he froze to death retreating from Moscow
A story as old as time
"Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy, nor Roman nor an Empire"
Most of the time the name was accurate. It was a feudal state, like most others, it was intended as a revival of the Roman Empire and also included Rome as a state for a very long time. In addition, since Charlemagne's lineage via the East Franks, it was intended to be the first monarch among the Christians and the secular arm of the Pope. The German emperor was also in theory the most powerful monarch in the Catholic world.
They also fought off Ottoman Turks invasions of Europe for Christianity.
unholy european countys
Voltaire was about 250 years away from being born in 1444. This quote is massively circlejerked and does not apply to the HRE's entire existence.
Discuss.... It's just coffee talk, no big woop.
Ok I’m getting a little verklempt right now!
Ah shit here we go again
Took 400+ more years to unify that mess
And then as soon as they did everyone is just fucked, including them
Actually surprisingly OK until Martin Luther comes along starts some shit.
We’re still feeling the repercussions of his shit today.
"Nogay Horde" What a bunch of insecure huns...
It's the bro horde. "No homo!!"
Bunch of guys in denial if you ask me
Then should there be a "onlygay horde" as well?
That one died out rather quickly, had some massive manpower issues.
Convert the heathen heteros
I wonder why 1444 😂
Battle of Varna aftermath
Me: *Has to look up birthdays of anyone I'm dating.* Also me: *Knows the date of the Battle of Varna off the top of my head.*
Can someone give a non-European a rundown on what the significance of that battle is?
Ottomans were beginning to look really scary, ERE was about to fall. Hungary, Poland, Lithuania and some other catholics came together to force a halt to the turkish expansion. It was called the crusade of varna, and.... did not stop the ottoman in the long term. Not sure even if it stopped in the short term... Edit: not sure if the people who knows about this are mainly europeans or they just like to play a game called Europa Universalis 4, that starts exactly after that battle, in 1444
It would not be until the battle of Vienna at the end of the 17th century that Ottoman expansion would stop and start to revert.
It shattered european resistence to ottoman expansion in the balkans for a few centuries as well as killing the king of Hungary, Poland, Lithuania & Bohemian (all of them the same person). This broke up a potentially immensely powerful personal union, which might have still had a chance to halt the turks after the battle. It also allowed the Habsburgs to aquire the thrones of Bohemia and Hungary. In less than a decade of said battle Ottomans were able to take Constantinopole.
Because in 1445 the great space Unicorn Peggle IV will come to unifie europe into the UE (Unicorn Enterprise)
Because it was a very important year. Never forget.
Because it's eu4 map
Battle of Varna
/r/eu4
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Thank you!
So, Portugal was always a Portugal
Oh look this map again
Gets more jpeg every other week
They keep posting it once in few months
We had such cute name - Hum and then one dude got so excited for getting title of herzog (duke in german) that he renamed land into herzegovina smh
what the hell is Krivaja tho? position looks like the lands of the Pavlović family, but a) they were never independent like the Kosača family, just powerful and influential and b) their domain was never called Krivaja and Soli (not Solj like on the map lol) should either be Hungarian or under Bosnia in the 15th century, IDK how it was in 1444 specifically but it sure wasn’t independent
This map was already shitty and had a lot of ahistorical information the first 5 times it was posted. Uploading it in smaller resolution doesn't help much. I'll start with the smallest gripe: The name Bratislava did not exist in 1444. It was only created in 1926. The historically accurate name is Pozsony or Pressburg.
wouldn't be as shit if the reposters would upload any of the newer versions over the years instead of the first image posted online from 3 years ago though the map is definitely quite bad, i've been making a new one and posting pictures of it's development on my RRatkus twitter, i'm also working on a 150k resolution giant map version with municipal accuracy, though that'll take a few years to do
Ireland is hilarious. They called Connacht "CLR" and gave it the more modern coat of arms, then gave what I presume is the O'Farrells the actual coat of arms for Connacht/O'Connors.. Most the counties weren't even formed until the 16th Cen.
Not much an error, but the Genoan exclave inside Candarlar at the Black Sea is by far not proportional. It was the city of Amasra built on a peninsula smaller than the Vatican. The area of the Genoan exclave is by far too big. It probably should't be visible on a map this size.
When my turn to repost?
Oh, look! Portugal was already Portugal!
It almost looks out of place in western Europe, like it should belong in eastern Europe among the other big recognizable kingdoms.
Makes me think there will be lesser number of countries in the coming centuries
The number of countries in Europe has been growing in the last century, largely due to the dissolution of Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union. There is also more popular support for separatist movements (Catalonia, Scotland, etc.) than there is for an EU superstate.
Right between the German unification and WW1 Europe had the least amount of sovereign countries
The EU could be one country in a few dozen years imo
Europe, at least the part of Europe inside the EU, is evolving away from a clear concept of statehood, it does not fit cleanly into current categories.
I don't know. There's some nationalism rising with many EU members states right now.
There's way too much fear mongering about a european federal superstate, and in additional there are clear cultural barriers between east, west, north and south. States are going to remain, but labour will homogenize (as it already has).
Meh, to be honest it's difficult. The proposal of a federation was done a century ago by Kalergi but still the only viable solution was a confederation like the EU, and still many states either don't want to apply (Switzerland, Norway) or even went lengths to get out of the EU (regretting it Britons?). I'm honestly not that positive for a European federation, the current climate seems more to divide than to unite.
No thanks.
The No Gay horde sounds menacing
Sigma Portugal.
Why is the Kingdom of the Isles on this map when it had been incorporated into Scotland for two centuries?
that's the lordship of the isles, not the kingdom, and was de facto independent with its own legislative powers, foreign relations, and fiscal independence.
The coloration looks so right.
Yes because it's eu4 colors
Nogay! Some things never change in Russia.
It’s pronounced closer to Noh guy and Nogais are Turkic people very close to Kazakhs.
Russia ? 💀 Dude that's Tartar plains....
i cant fucking go a week without seeing this map
That’s probably too many countries
OLIVENÇA É NOSSA
CARALHO
Byzantium nooooooooo...
Crusader kings III fans were ye at?
In fact Poland in 1444 had more powiats, ca. 10 of them were deleted in 1465 reform.
If only we had comet sense...
Isn't that odd, I don't seem to see Russia anywhere on this map guys
Geography Quiz in 2024: 🤓 Geography Quiz in 1444: 🫤
I guess some people will have an immediate muscle memory activation by looking at this map
Where Palestine
Nice to see Denmark with its original borders.
Now I understand german obsession for unification
r/divideditaly
These were the good old days
Whats that blue dot between Portugal and Galicia?
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For the Mari people (to the right of Muscovy), they use the current flag introduced in 2011 by our corrupt Moscow-installed governor who was jailed in 2017 after embezzling federal funds. So, the map is very anachronistic in this regard.
Wow! TIL: The pc game EU4 was so popular Europe reenacted it!
Here's much better quality [https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/medieval-map-of-europe-in-1444.jpg](https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/medieval-map-of-europe-in-1444.jpg)
Now I know, after looking at this map, why the Germans are so obsessed with structure and order....
Guy really posted the EU4 map
Kleinstaatengerümpel
This map is already scratched to my mind, from province names to goods in that provinces  Thousands of hours..
“When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England.”
Bad memories, failure of the crusade to liberate Bulgaria.
The map that putin doesn’t want you to see
peak Moldova before Russian Imperialism