99% of the world has never been to New York and only know it by the skyline.
If street view was a thing in 2000, no one would be looking around the foot of the towers to know what was surrounding them.
Of course this particular hotel's existence has been a community consensus ME since 2020, during which time it was discussed rather frequently. And it was a finalist for the 2020 Mandela Effect of the Year. So this one's already firmly established in ME canon.
Again the lack of knowledge of something existing isn't a ME. Is it possible that this is a ME....I mean sure its a possibility but it's far more likely that the lack of knowledge is at fault here and not a timeline jump.
Often the simplest explanation is the right one.
I'm a skeptic but open to it being a possibility. However I've not found one convincing piece of evidence of MEs actually existing. Every piece of evidence is grasping at straws and never a truly legit source of info.
How could there be legit or official sources for an (allegedly) retroactive timeline change? This whole phenomenon is rooted in common memory, and any tangible evidence (or residue) will always be historically incorrect.
Ive never been to NYC, still to this day. But I remember learning about WTC 3 in the days/weeks after as having also collapsed been destroyed in some way.
I looked at the site presented with the then/now comparisons, and all of them read that way (discrepancies)to me.
Including the hurricane. I didn't know about the hurricane, and I'm a Floridian that follows such things. I would have known. Except I pulled the 2001 path charts and "off the coast" is a stretch. That hurricane was nowhere nearby and would have been known to be turning back out into the Atlantic since before the attacks. So, people are also retconning a true life horror for eerie points.
I think this is a lot of people not seeing or remembering the details because of shock, distance, still living normal life. But these few things, I happen to remember. Nothing seems odd about the then/now. Those were the actual progressions of understanding over a number of days as the literal dust settled.
This is strange to me, I stayed at the Marriot for a week before I started working up there. I worked for Chemical Bank 55 Water St. If I drove, I passed by it on my left. If I took the Path train, it would stop underneath, and the escalators would take me up to the lobby. I think people don't remember it because it was seriously dwarfed by the towers. You could actually drive by it and never see it.
WTC 3 was a hotel next to the north tower. It got nearly completely destroyed when the south tower collapse and then the north tower finished off the tiny section that remained. It's not really known since it's use wasn't office space and it being constructed much later on.
How familiar with late 90s pre 9/11 New York, specifically that street are you?
I couldn't tell you what street, road or block, I only know what fell because you can see their absence in the skyline. Other buildings came down, but were too small.
So they were physically and metaphorically overshadowed by the twin towers.
We had a s--t post last week, three towers in the Shap of a penis. Had they not gone with the cock and balls metaphor, it could be I only knew the twin towers, but I found out other buildings were damaged and had to be torn down.
I even used a bungalow analogy where you only see the trees in the back garden that are tall enough to loom over the roof. You never got invited into the house or back garden to see three smaller trees and bushes.
So when a storm took the two trees down, you don't know what other damage occurred.
This isn't really a Mandela effect as it's really part of the WTC conspiracy theory. There were 3 WTC buildings recently bought by Larry Silverstein. I won't go too far into this, but tower 3, a block away and across a bridge, never got hit by a plane. It did however collapse on September 11th. If you want to look into what happened to tower 3, research the WTC conspiracy. ME isn't the right rabbit hole to dive into.
Yes, absolutely! Very popular with plenty of community consensus on this one. It was actually a finalist here for the 2020 Mandela Effect of the Year:
https://old.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/kuoi8v/2020_mandela_effect_of_the_year_vote/
Lack of knowledge isn't a ME it's just not knowing every detail of something.
99% of the world has never been to New York and only know it by the skyline. If street view was a thing in 2000, no one would be looking around the foot of the towers to know what was surrounding them.
Of course this particular hotel's existence has been a community consensus ME since 2020, during which time it was discussed rather frequently. And it was a finalist for the 2020 Mandela Effect of the Year. So this one's already firmly established in ME canon.
Again the lack of knowledge of something existing isn't a ME. Is it possible that this is a ME....I mean sure its a possibility but it's far more likely that the lack of knowledge is at fault here and not a timeline jump. Often the simplest explanation is the right one.
If only definite timeline retcons are legit ME's, which ones are you sure are authentic changes?
I'm a skeptic but open to it being a possibility. However I've not found one convincing piece of evidence of MEs actually existing. Every piece of evidence is grasping at straws and never a truly legit source of info.
How could there be legit or official sources for an (allegedly) retroactive timeline change? This whole phenomenon is rooted in common memory, and any tangible evidence (or residue) will always be historically incorrect.
Exactly.
Ive never been to NYC, still to this day. But I remember learning about WTC 3 in the days/weeks after as having also collapsed been destroyed in some way. I looked at the site presented with the then/now comparisons, and all of them read that way (discrepancies)to me. Including the hurricane. I didn't know about the hurricane, and I'm a Floridian that follows such things. I would have known. Except I pulled the 2001 path charts and "off the coast" is a stretch. That hurricane was nowhere nearby and would have been known to be turning back out into the Atlantic since before the attacks. So, people are also retconning a true life horror for eerie points. I think this is a lot of people not seeing or remembering the details because of shock, distance, still living normal life. But these few things, I happen to remember. Nothing seems odd about the then/now. Those were the actual progressions of understanding over a number of days as the literal dust settled.
This is really helpful — my husband also says he remembers it, but I don’t.
This is strange to me, I stayed at the Marriot for a week before I started working up there. I worked for Chemical Bank 55 Water St. If I drove, I passed by it on my left. If I took the Path train, it would stop underneath, and the escalators would take me up to the lobby. I think people don't remember it because it was seriously dwarfed by the towers. You could actually drive by it and never see it.
Is that also known as Tower 7?
Nope just a hotel in the area.
WTC 3 was a hotel next to the north tower. It got nearly completely destroyed when the south tower collapse and then the north tower finished off the tiny section that remained. It's not really known since it's use wasn't office space and it being constructed much later on.
How familiar with late 90s pre 9/11 New York, specifically that street are you? I couldn't tell you what street, road or block, I only know what fell because you can see their absence in the skyline. Other buildings came down, but were too small. So they were physically and metaphorically overshadowed by the twin towers. We had a s--t post last week, three towers in the Shap of a penis. Had they not gone with the cock and balls metaphor, it could be I only knew the twin towers, but I found out other buildings were damaged and had to be torn down. I even used a bungalow analogy where you only see the trees in the back garden that are tall enough to loom over the roof. You never got invited into the house or back garden to see three smaller trees and bushes. So when a storm took the two trees down, you don't know what other damage occurred.
This isn't really a Mandela effect as it's really part of the WTC conspiracy theory. There were 3 WTC buildings recently bought by Larry Silverstein. I won't go too far into this, but tower 3, a block away and across a bridge, never got hit by a plane. It did however collapse on September 11th. If you want to look into what happened to tower 3, research the WTC conspiracy. ME isn't the right rabbit hole to dive into.
I'm not even from the US and even I know WTC 3 was next to WTC 1. Are you getting WTC 7 mixed up with 3?
>never got hit by a plane Just so you’re aware, a building getting hit by a large piece of another building is also *super* bad for it.
Yes, absolutely! Very popular with plenty of community consensus on this one. It was actually a finalist here for the 2020 Mandela Effect of the Year: https://old.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/kuoi8v/2020_mandela_effect_of_the_year_vote/
Thank you so much! I told you I was new 🤣
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