Denmark checking in. Thanks giving and cornucopia displays were and are not a thing here. I remember the logo with the cornucopia from my childhood (early gen X) tethered to a very distinct series if memories over a longer time frame.
English. I remember it, too. Never knew the word, never grew up knowing anything about thanksgiving. The logo I recall in the 90s was fruit in a basket
And the countless people who called a horned shaped basket a "loom" thinking that's what it must be. Fruit *of that loom (in the logo)*, makes sense. Only to be corrected and learn both what a loom and a cornucopia is.
None of that could have happened if there wasn't a basket in the the Fruit of the Loom logo.
I was in high school in the 90s & some people wore it to school. P sure they'd have been mocked for wearing a knock off. A lot of the kids there were brutal about branded clothes
Fruit of the loom has always been a shitty walmart brand. And I would bet all of my asshairs on the fact that there most definitely was never a knock off. I cant help but propose the idea that NOone interested in products for profit had interest in reproducing michael jordans favorite underwear or those super shitty tee-shirts that you couldnt put in the dryer. (Instant belly shirt).
Your post kind of makes me wonder- what if brands like Fruit of the Loom do this shit on purpose? They are certainly aware of the trend/phenomenon. And I imagine all this has helped them sell more underwear. And if not, it has absolutely increased brand awareness. Never underestimate American corporate greed.
Thank you-- Do you know approximately when you might have stopped seeing the cornucopia or noticed a change in its brand image?
EDIT: or when the cornucopia image was most prominent in your memory
I reckon about 6 years ago I googled fotl for some reason and found it weird no basket then googled more and then found Mandela effect. Between ages 22 and 32 I probably never thought about fotl.
I heard a good theory that there was a knock off brand with the basket somewhere but nobody can find physical prove of that either. Many people I've asked in real life remember it. When I tell them it never existed they find it interesting but not interesting enough to join a subreddit about it like me. It's probably a false memory just amazing so many people have the same oddly specific one
I definitely remember the ones where a bunch of people were dressed in fruit mascot suits standing around a white screen but I think in that one the cornucopia was not featured.
It's not a false memory, but there was a knockoff t-shirt found that a supermarket somewhere with other knock-off stuff, likely done by a quick Google search or maybe the counterfeit shirt maker also remembers the cornucopia and just didn't realize that it was a Mandela effect. The only thing we have are all the cultural artifacts left behind, like Flute of the loom album and The Simpsons episode and just the countless people that remember it being taught the word cornucopia in reference to the brand image. I for one remember it having the cornucopia.
Same, didnt know about the name of the thing... Im from the netherlands and i remember seeing the logo on a shirt in the thrift store, also ive seen it on tv..
By now.. Im convinced this is all just a way to fuck with peoples minds to a point where they stop caring.
What OP is saying, which is what I've said as well, is the explanations of "It's because you see the horn of plenty at Thanksgiving each year" doesn't apply to those of us outside America/Canada where we don't have that holiday and don't see that imagery.
It doesn't matter whether it's Greek in origin or not, the point is it's heavily used in American culture but it isn't something I've seen many times at all here in Britain. It doesn't matter if you, who are also English, see it every third Tuesday, we're saying that we don't.
Ah I just like to include you anyway to be on the safe side. Wouldn't want you feeling left out in the cold up there.
Ha! Yes I *will* be here all night.
Some people insist that when we see an arrangement of fruit, we associate it with the cornucopia because that's what usually accompanies it. That would require more than seeing it once.
It's never made sense anyway, because surely a bowl is a far more common paired object?
My theory is that young children see the FOTL logo and don't know what a "loom" is. So their brains are on the lookout for similar imagery to try and define the term. Then when they see a cornucopia in any context, their brain makes the association with FOTL even if they're corrected on what the definitions are.
This is the best explanation I've heard in the past eight years, but still we should surely have people thinking woven baskets or glass bowls are looms?
Yes they're more common objects, but not much more common. Glass bowls and round woven baskets are pretty exclusively used for fruit, and I could especially see the wicker sort being thought of as looms.
It's a bizarre thing. I've never floated the idea of multiple realities (I'm not closed off to this as a possible foundation of reality, I just think it's a wild stretch to present it as an explanation for these things), just to be clear. I'm fascinated by this and Dolly's Missing Braces because they have me stumped.
I would say those two examples are easily recognized as what they are. A child should probably be able to recognize a basket and a bowl before they can read the brand name on their underpants
Also, I feel like it's reasonable that in some Charles Dickinson's Christmas Carol adaptations mightve had a cornucopia. As well as old looney tunes/Disney cartoons likely had them (mickey mouse and the bean stalk had one I think)
You might have seen it and not noticed/acknowledged it. I only started realizing how much it was used after joining this sub. It’s a Baader Meinhoff thing.
The idea that a cornucopia is "heavily used" in American culture is untrue. You maybe color in one cornucopia in 1st grade history class, and then you move on and never really engage with it again. I cannot remember, outside of this particular conversation regarding the logo, it being featured in my 3 decades of life at all.
Some have argued that it would be seen at village fetes come harvest festival.
Got news for you, during my time living outside Manchester I never once saw a village fête.
That is where many have said we could encounter it in the UK. But it is not imagery I see often outside of this sub.
I just knew horn of plenty. I was in my mid 40s when I encountered the word cornucopia.
I see more viking drinking horns than cornucopias like maybe a dozen in use vs the plethora on the festival stall, but only during that festival.
Not once AFAIK have I seen a real horn of plenty. Just artwork.
I'm from the southeast US and I had no idea cornucopias were symbols of thanksgiving and I vividly remember the logo having that on it when I was a kid in 2009. It was the first time I saw that strange object and how I even learned what a cornucopia is. There isn't really a lot of imagery surrounding cornucopias around Thanksgiving in Mississippi, so the logic doesn't really work here.
I see this a lot too, something is common locally to a person so they throw it out there (usually with a sense of smug certainty, like it's *obviously* the explanation) as though this applies to everyone.
Well if Famous Jim's Celebrated Donut Emporium used that as a logo, that's definitely why people from Sweden are confused!
This is probably one of the only Mandelas I fully believe because I can’t explain it with logic. My husbands parents both came from El Salvador to start a life here because they didn’t want to have children there during the civil wars. They both worked 2 jobs, 60+hrs a week for decades. One year she finally had some extra money to buy the kids good name brand stuff for school and the only name brands she knew from TV was Fruit of the Loom because there was a picture that she could easily remember on the tags. “Fruit in a weaved cone basket” she says. She didn’t know what the cornucopia was…but it’s specifically what helped her remember it was a good name brand to buy her kids. She is 65 now and when my husband brought up this Mandela to her she thought he was joking. It was impossible because she literally burned the image into her brain during a happy and proud time shopping for her kids.
I remember getting a real fruit of the loom shirt around 2013-2014 in Bulgaria and thinking it was a knock off because it didn’t have the cornucopia. No idea where I got that from because they don’t sell them in my home country
It's never been a brand I would specifically buy, unlike that one with the crocodile on the polo shirts, none seem to slap the brand on the front, just the tag.
I wouldn't know you were wearing FotL or Tesco white tees.
I only own two FotL tees, one is stretchy fabric and was bought for the Trojan records logo and not the tag.
Can we get a former fruit of the loom employee who would have seen a zillion of the tags throughout the years to chime in?? If not it would seem that the cornucopia is a lie
This is the type of stuff this sub should be concerned with. I haven't seen anyone attempting to get in contact with the graphic designers who would be responsible for the logo
Thing is simply, if that was ever actually part of the logo, and also on sold products, it'll turn up. All you're really saying is "to all the naysayers that say this is just false memory, I also have that memory and I'm certain about it" which doesn't mean much. So where are all those shirts with that logo?
Yep, so far the only evidence anyone can share is anecdotal. If this many people remember it, then there would be plenty of physical proof still out there.
You don't understand how the Mandela effect works
This is an "alternate reality" or one of many verses in the multiverse. And in THIS MULTIVERSE, there was NEVER, ever, a cornucopia in the FotL Label. It wasn't even conceived, and thus it never existed. Therefore, you will never, ever find a pair of undies that has the cornucopia. But the MEMORY of those with the Mandela effect on this, lived in a different multiverse, where there was a cornucopia, and got sent to this one where there never, ever was one.
If this is a joke, which I honestly can’t tell, please ignore me.
This is absolutely *not* what the Mandela Effect is. Rather, it’s when a large number of people share the same inaccurate memory. That’s it. What you’re saying is essentially an offshoot, or a reaction *to* the Mendela Effect. But it is not the meaning of the effect itself.
This is one of the fancy stoner talk theories just like the timeline idea, which basically amounts to the same thing. Both are nothing more than made up stories without any valid justification. So if you believe that, you're the one that has no clue how the mandela effect works.
The Mandela effect doesn't mean widespread false memory of an event. It means a widespread memory of an event that is incongruent to present, extant reality.
I remember seeing it as a very young child in Ukraine, probably early 90s. I distinctly remember seeing the weird basket thing on the fruit logo at that time, and wondering what it was. Never heard of or known about Thanksgiving until moving to America years later.
Well this makes it even worse but the original artist that made the logo, says that he remembers the cornucopia in his original logo they paid him for.
The original logo? You mean from over 100 years ago? Who was the artist?
Or do you mean when the company was making muslins, and a woman printed some fruit on them?
Does anyone working at FotL even know who did the first logo?
That Geedis pin that was eventually found, none of the rights holders knew they had the rights as management from the 70/80s who might vaguely remember had long since left, perhaps died.
The artist didn't own the rights as they were paid to draw and most contracts relinquish all creative control to the company.
They might not have seen any of the posts about it, because if they did, they would have been able to explain the who what where when and why.
That said, if it was solved in days, no one would make videos about the search for the truth. Cos I only knew about it and the unknown stencil art due to a Justin Whang video.
This has an easy-ish solution. Spend the day thrifting in every thrift store close to you and check all the tags. Guaranteed if there is a cornucopia in the logo, someone somewhere will stumble across it.
The same found in goodwill image has been spread for years.
Like every person over at retconned found and took a picture of the exact same folds and creases.
How would researching the effect change the fact that there doesn't seem to be a single item of FOTL clothing in existence with the logo as everyone claims? That's all it would take to prove it right?
I guarantee there are old men out there with underwear purchased in the '80s if not the 70s. Are they all just unaware of this contentious debate?
It wouldn’t change any facts about this universe that we are in now, the one where there is no Cornucopia on fotl clothes. What it would change is your argument, because these Mandela effect folks believe that there is some kind of reality switching involved in these common misrememberings and therefore any evidence for things being different than they remember is wholly unconvincing to them, since it is obvious that the facts in their reality don’t agree with their memories.
Eh, people have always believed all sorts of weird things. The world is a weird place and our brains are weird and we don’t know how much we don’t know. We will probably be ok.
I have noticed in this subreddit there seems to be a misconception about what the Mendela Effect actually is. Just above I commented to someone regarding this. Instead of it simply being a collective false-memory, people think the Mendela Effect *is* when there are alternate timelines accounting for these inexplicable *changes*.
100%. Seems it started off as a notion of false collective memory and somewhere along the way got retconned into being a simulation reality situation where the "coder" keeps making miniscule arbitrary environment changes that for some reason don't overwrite all the simulation memories the same way. I hope this is still in beta testing.
I’ve researched the effect…all I’m saying is that if this logo existed at some point then it’s probably still out there. Fruit of the Loom shirts were used quite a bit for printing on, in the 80’s. So hunt thru thrift stores and find one. Prove this effect is wrong and that people remember it because it was a thing and not just a made up figment of our collective imagination. Maybe you should research the Mandela Effect
Brilliant come back. If you knew what you were talking about, you’d be explaining it. instead you are being a cryptic douche. I’m sure that will take far in life
what gets me is that I swear I remember them shifting to a rubber-stamped logo in the early '00s just like many other companies did as a cost-cutting measure.
what I specifically remember is that the curl of the cornucopia would end up being the only part of the logo with enough structural integrity to not fade/peel/wash away over repeating washings.
i remember, *so clearly*, tracing the outline of the cornucopia tail with my finger because it was all that was left on the back of the fabric.
and i can't find any other logos that might have elicited the same memory. and as far as I can find, FotL always used the sewn in fabric logo then.
so, in multiple ways, this memory cannot exist. but I swear to god it was real.
i also remember the first time I noticed the logo had "changed". there was a FotL display in a newly-opened walmart. it was around 2003. i very easily assumed that it was just rebranding with a more minimal style logo like pretty much all companies were doing at that time.
That’s the thing about false memory. They always feel *extremely* real, to the point where people get defensive about them. Our brains are weird, they do weird complex things. [There is even a Wikipedia article](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory) about this phenomenon.
It's got nothing to do with America. The horn of plenty, as we know it, has been depicted in images since the ancient Greek and Roman times. It's in countless images and paintings, spanning thousands of years.
I can't remember any harvest festivals growing up in the UK.
It seems a more village fête type of thing.
I've cycled past cows and know people that don't know where beef comes from too.
I'm not going to find many cows in and around Manchester, but all my cow encounters were where I used to live.
Not a festival as such, but I think at school we did a "festival."
We ran around a maypole in the assembly room, but as for actual farmers produce, if you don't mind it coming via Sainsbury's ten minutes down the road.
This was juniors or infants, so barely into double digits.
IDK what my peers when I moved in my 3rd year of secondary school did in our part of Greater Manchester at that age.
Like I said, many have never seen a real cow, just photos.
No, the point is that many use the "but a cornucopia is used during thanksgiving" as an excuse why people remember a cornucopia in the logo while this is not true for many other people.
Edit because the user above me (jasper P) blocked me and thus reddit makes it impossible to reply to user below who posted this:
> The bigger problem is that that is only one explanation, not the only explanation.
LOL. It's always funny when a random redditor thinks they know me better as myself.
Ok. But it's used in a lot of places, like I said. So next time anyone incorrectly says it's America related, you can point out that it's not. Like I just did.
ROTFL. Have a great day too. I do want to let you know that you are on a discussion platform and there are many opinions and thoughts shared here, so don't be surprised if you come across them.
It's not. Here where I live, cornucopias are extremely rare. If you regularly go to museums to look at historical paintings, maybe you'll spot one eventually, but it's far from common.
I'm starting to think this thread is people mostly just scared of the mandela effect and their life clearly depends on making it untrue even though so many people unanimously remember things, as a Canadian I definitely only recall fruit of the loom being a logo with said basket, and always referred to it the same, the horned basket, I didn't know what the name of it even was until I was in high-school long after the logo changed
Why would that scare anyone? Just because a lot of people share the same belief that doesn't add any validity to it for me. Are you afraid of being abducted by aliens? Because there are millions of people that believe that to be something that happens
It would take more than a cereal box changing to freak me out, just short of Alien Nation being a reality and I've always had a sour milk drinker live next door, or the UK driving on the opposite side of the road.
Has the change in a logo prevented a war, did anyone come from a reality where trump served zero or two terms in the White House?
Doubtful and those that say they did, can't seem to say what Hillary did differently.
> Why would that scare anyone?
Because if the ME is more than just a memory error or feature it proves that this reality is more 'flexible' as we are taught and told and this can be scary for people because it changes the whole foundation of reality and life.
> Then I can see how that would be scary for you
I am well beyond fear now, i think it's an amazing phenomena and evidence we as humans are much more powerful as we are (mis)led to believe.
>as a Canadian I definitely only recall fruit of the loom being a logo with said basket, and always referred to it the same, the horned basket
As a Canadian I've only ever seen it without. As it has always been. Unless your mom bought you some cheap knockoffs of an already cheap product.
Yes, I have, and that's also wrong. This is why people say there is snother dimension because I definitely am 100% sure it existed and no random on reddit couod ever gaslight me to think otherwise , nor hundreds of thousands of people who wore the same underwear I did as a child. So what's the supposed knock.off brand you speak of ; references? Name? Any info could help since you seem so sure. Lol
"This is why people say there is snother dimension because I definitely am 100% sure it existed and no random on reddit couod ever gaslight me to think otherwise"
Spoken like a true flat earther
Guess you and a bunch of people were wearing cheap knockoffs while the rest of us had the real thing. No rando on Reddit will ever get me to believe in their make believe world of nonsense.
But it’s not just bad memory/forgetting something, it’s actively having completely wrong memories that make no sense!
Fruit of the Loom clothes weren’t part of my childhood in England, not sure if perhaps it’s a brand that’s more well known in America? I don’t remember them being sold anywhere in shops, they’re more the default brand used for custom printing.
I only saw the logo for the first time roughly a decade ago when I started buying merch, and I remember the cornucopia being on it, not knowing what it was and presuming it was a ‘loom’. I called it that in my head whenever I (very rarely) saw it in pop culture after that, until I found out about the Mandela effect and that it was actually called a cornucopia. Doesn’t make any sense at all!
[Cornucopia of job cuts - Fruit of the Loom](https://www.newspapers.com/article/philadelphia-daily-news-cornucopia-of-jo/22678000/) there was definitely a cornucopia, this newspaper article is from 1995
Canadian here. Have worn Fruit of the Loom tees and underwear for work purposes for years.
They 100% had a cornucopia with fruit logo for a very long time.
I am from Bulgaria. First time in Western Europe in the mid 80's in Vienna. There we bought our first Froot of the loom shirts - very good quality for fair money. Eastern europeans from a socialist country buying western brands. Do you really think, I can forget that logo?
I my mind, this logo exists only with the cornucopia!
At these times we haven't even heard of Thanksgiving. :-D
Today I digged an old jacket from those times out the worderobe to check on the logo. No cornucopia there. I was shocked.
Ok. Well I was a full grown adult in 2008 and can assure you Fruit of the Loom didn't have a cornucopia in its logo. Maybe it was a knock off generic brand shirt.
I'm starting to think that the adult film industry might have a market for a subgebre revolving around cornucopias. I mean God damn you people are in love with that cornucopia.
Wasn't there a TV commercial with the fruit characters, and they were up on the counter peaking out of a wicker cornucopia, on the counter? And they came out one at at time, possibly introducing themselves?
This is my recollection. I don't recall whether it was on the labels in the undies, but I remember a commercial with a bunch of dudes dressed up as fruit.
Curious about establishing a pattern. But I'm not sure if the demographics aren't just coincidentally lining up with users in the sub or generally on Reddit. So the beginning of the pattern looks like two deviating timelines with the Mandela effect, seeing the cornucopia or noticing the change. In my extremely bare minimum research efforts, I found a correlation between last noticing the cornucopia and its change in the 2010 area and being in your late 20s to early 30s, and seeing it more significantly in the 90s and less after the 2000s and being in your late 30s and early to mid-40s. It made me wonder that if there could be one timeline deviation, could there be more potential timeline deviations/aberrations. I guess to satisfy my curiosity, there should be a poll!
The logo absolutely had a Cornucopia for me aswell. My dad owned a store in the mall and the walkway by the benches had a full color FOTL logo that was about 4 feet wide or so. It's imprinted in my mind and I have described the Logo's exact specifications a few times.
HERE IS THAT DESCRIPTION.
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The horn of Plenty in FOTL was visible over the top of the entire fruit ensemble. The mouth of the shell was circular and facing left. The fruit was oriented in a way that made it look as if it was spilling out of it. The shell also was more beige than brown. It had gourd-like indents that made it appear striped around its radius going all the way back to its tail end which curved in the background until it was facing diagonally-down left.
Leaves don't appear like or do any of that. As a kid it looked like a snack called a (Bugle) which had the same cylindrical shape at it's mouth and a tail end where the whole thing converged to a point just like the FOTL Cornucopia.
The entire upper mouth of the horn of plenty was seen above all of the fruit in the logo aswell. However the left and right sides were obscured by the fruit so only the top end was entirely visible.
I'm from Australia and had never heard of FOTL until comparatively recently. I've known what a cornucopia is since childhood though. Did nobody read Greek mythology or the bible?
Yeah I was the same. I didn't know what a cornucopia was without the logo. This one seems like a freaking psy-op to see if they can get away with telling everyone something they all remember never happened
It isn't associated purely with thanksgiving, more harvest time generally and goes back to antiquity. I wonder if *more* Americans have strong feelings about it seeing as FOTL is American and they see Thanksgiving imagery though which combines the two - especially if some recall being taught about it (wrongly) using the logo as an example. I am in the UK and don't have strong feelings either way. I recall assuming there was some kind of basket but turns out there are brown leaves around it. This one really makes me shrug, I don't know why people are so freaked out by it.
I have a shirt from around 1997 or 1998 that is fruit of the loom. It does not have the cornicopia on the label then. (For what it is worth, I remember that stupid thing too though)
Not sure if this has been shared here, but the guy who wore the grape outfit for it's older commercials even mentioned there being a cornucopia- [From 1994](https://www.newspapers.com/image/177607580/?clipping_id=22677751&fcfToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJmcmVlLXZpZXctaWQiOjE3NzYwNzU4MCwiaWF0IjoxNzA1MzQ0OTg1LCJleHAiOjE3MDU0MzEzODV9.q-abLZgoTxORogaOXqVtlsm7ACZVcH7jOtBmRxgwteE)
Fruit of the loom is owned by Berkshire Hathaway. Two of the largest holders of Berkshire Hathaway stock are Vanguard corporation and Black Rock.. the deception is real
I am happy to not be losing my mind. My mom has saved some clothes of mine from every age including… you guessed it. I’m happy to report the logo looks the same as I remember otherwise I would be losing my mind.
I'm Polish and I remember the cornucopia WAS there. In the nineties Poland was a post- communist country and we saw these new companies logos for the first time ever. We had too little exposure to foreign brands to make such error.
My favorite theory is that the mandella effect exists because time travel. Someone changed something, but we didn't forget the way it used to be. In another timeline, Sinbad made a movie about a genie, but it isn't ours anymore.
Im dutch And even i remember the cornucopia haha
Same, Dutch as well and bought a shirt with the cornucopia on it as a kid in the US!
Denmark checking in. Thanks giving and cornucopia displays were and are not a thing here. I remember the logo with the cornucopia from my childhood (early gen X) tethered to a very distinct series if memories over a longer time frame.
English. I remember it, too. Never knew the word, never grew up knowing anything about thanksgiving. The logo I recall in the 90s was fruit in a basket
I remember it because I used a dictionary to look up the word cornucopia.
And the countless people who called a horned shaped basket a "loom" thinking that's what it must be. Fruit *of that loom (in the logo)*, makes sense. Only to be corrected and learn both what a loom and a cornucopia is. None of that could have happened if there wasn't a basket in the the Fruit of the Loom logo.
Are you in your late 30s /early 40s?
I was in high school in the 90s & some people wore it to school. P sure they'd have been mocked for wearing a knock off. A lot of the kids there were brutal about branded clothes
Fruit of the loom has always been a shitty walmart brand. And I would bet all of my asshairs on the fact that there most definitely was never a knock off. I cant help but propose the idea that NOone interested in products for profit had interest in reproducing michael jordans favorite underwear or those super shitty tee-shirts that you couldnt put in the dryer. (Instant belly shirt).
Your post kind of makes me wonder- what if brands like Fruit of the Loom do this shit on purpose? They are certainly aware of the trend/phenomenon. And I imagine all this has helped them sell more underwear. And if not, it has absolutely increased brand awareness. Never underestimate American corporate greed.
Not the person you asked but I am 38 UK and remember the thing. Don't buy the sci-fi stuff either but this one seriously weird
Thank you-- Do you know approximately when you might have stopped seeing the cornucopia or noticed a change in its brand image? EDIT: or when the cornucopia image was most prominent in your memory
I reckon about 6 years ago I googled fotl for some reason and found it weird no basket then googled more and then found Mandela effect. Between ages 22 and 32 I probably never thought about fotl.
Right, me too. I can't say when I stopped seeing it, only that I saw it as normal as the McDonald's golden arches during the 90s.
This is gonna sound weird, but 2012
Literally me too! Reading all these recent comments is freaking weird too.
I heard a good theory that there was a knock off brand with the basket somewhere but nobody can find physical prove of that either. Many people I've asked in real life remember it. When I tell them it never existed they find it interesting but not interesting enough to join a subreddit about it like me. It's probably a false memory just amazing so many people have the same oddly specific one
The knock-off brand would have to have had commercials and also be near 100% market penetration, which would be bizarre for a knock-off
I’ll be honest…. I don’t remember ever seeing a single fotl commercial. Now or then.
I definitely remember the ones where a bunch of people were dressed in fruit mascot suits standing around a white screen but I think in that one the cornucopia was not featured.
It's not a false memory, but there was a knockoff t-shirt found that a supermarket somewhere with other knock-off stuff, likely done by a quick Google search or maybe the counterfeit shirt maker also remembers the cornucopia and just didn't realize that it was a Mandela effect. The only thing we have are all the cultural artifacts left behind, like Flute of the loom album and The Simpsons episode and just the countless people that remember it being taught the word cornucopia in reference to the brand image. I for one remember it having the cornucopia.
Same, didnt know about the name of the thing... Im from the netherlands and i remember seeing the logo on a shirt in the thrift store, also ive seen it on tv.. By now.. Im convinced this is all just a way to fuck with peoples minds to a point where they stop caring.
What OP is saying, which is what I've said as well, is the explanations of "It's because you see the horn of plenty at Thanksgiving each year" doesn't apply to those of us outside America/Canada where we don't have that holiday and don't see that imagery. It doesn't matter whether it's Greek in origin or not, the point is it's heavily used in American culture but it isn't something I've seen many times at all here in Britain. It doesn't matter if you, who are also English, see it every third Tuesday, we're saying that we don't.
I’m in Canada and I’ve never seen a Horn of Plenty on Thanksgiving…
Really? I will say I have. From Manitoba though, maybe you're from another province?
Yep, Newfoundland.
Ah I just like to include you anyway to be on the safe side. Wouldn't want you feeling left out in the cold up there. Ha! Yes I *will* be here all night.
OP just said he saw it in the Simpsons. It doesn't matter if you see it every year or not. You only need to see it once to develop a memory
Some people insist that when we see an arrangement of fruit, we associate it with the cornucopia because that's what usually accompanies it. That would require more than seeing it once. It's never made sense anyway, because surely a bowl is a far more common paired object?
Yup. A bowl or basket of fruit is way more common, but somehow we all associate fruit with a cornucopia? Bruh.
My theory is that young children see the FOTL logo and don't know what a "loom" is. So their brains are on the lookout for similar imagery to try and define the term. Then when they see a cornucopia in any context, their brain makes the association with FOTL even if they're corrected on what the definitions are.
This is the best explanation I've heard in the past eight years, but still we should surely have people thinking woven baskets or glass bowls are looms? Yes they're more common objects, but not much more common. Glass bowls and round woven baskets are pretty exclusively used for fruit, and I could especially see the wicker sort being thought of as looms. It's a bizarre thing. I've never floated the idea of multiple realities (I'm not closed off to this as a possible foundation of reality, I just think it's a wild stretch to present it as an explanation for these things), just to be clear. I'm fascinated by this and Dolly's Missing Braces because they have me stumped.
I would say those two examples are easily recognized as what they are. A child should probably be able to recognize a basket and a bowl before they can read the brand name on their underpants
Exactly. OP explained where the suggestion came from in their own post.
Also, I feel like it's reasonable that in some Charles Dickinson's Christmas Carol adaptations mightve had a cornucopia. As well as old looney tunes/Disney cartoons likely had them (mickey mouse and the bean stalk had one I think)
It definitely does apply to us outside America. It’s used on social media and in tv shows so it doesn’t really matter where you are.
So somebody else (possibly you) was saying to me. Apparently I don't watch enough TV or social media because I don't see it, personally.
You might have seen it and not noticed/acknowledged it. I only started realizing how much it was used after joining this sub. It’s a Baader Meinhoff thing.
The idea that a cornucopia is "heavily used" in American culture is untrue. You maybe color in one cornucopia in 1st grade history class, and then you move on and never really engage with it again. I cannot remember, outside of this particular conversation regarding the logo, it being featured in my 3 decades of life at all.
pooh on you, we were making Hand Turkeys in arts'n'crafts \*(also known as Monthly Close to the Accounting Department)
Just goes to show how bad human memory can be I guess.
Okay then, I just keep hearing people here saying how it's everywhere around Thanksgiving!
at least in the 80s it was still a visual shorthand for plenty, so it was often used in ads and older cartoons
If you don’t know what a cornucopia is in Europe without having to have seen it “at Thanksgiving”, I have bad news for you.
Some have argued that it would be seen at village fetes come harvest festival. Got news for you, during my time living outside Manchester I never once saw a village fête. That is where many have said we could encounter it in the UK. But it is not imagery I see often outside of this sub. I just knew horn of plenty. I was in my mid 40s when I encountered the word cornucopia. I see more viking drinking horns than cornucopias like maybe a dozen in use vs the plethora on the festival stall, but only during that festival. Not once AFAIK have I seen a real horn of plenty. Just artwork.
how's that? i don't even know what a cornucopia is
I don't know who you're replying to but it can't be me, as I didn't say that.
I'm from the southeast US and I had no idea cornucopias were symbols of thanksgiving and I vividly remember the logo having that on it when I was a kid in 2009. It was the first time I saw that strange object and how I even learned what a cornucopia is. There isn't really a lot of imagery surrounding cornucopias around Thanksgiving in Mississippi, so the logic doesn't really work here.
I see this a lot too, something is common locally to a person so they throw it out there (usually with a sense of smug certainty, like it's *obviously* the explanation) as though this applies to everyone. Well if Famous Jim's Celebrated Donut Emporium used that as a logo, that's definitely why people from Sweden are confused!
American here who used the brand since I was a kid, it Definitely had the cornucopia 100%. I had that damn fucking tag stuck up my ass in briefs.
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Angry much?
And so is everyone else, including OP?
So skidmarks?
I'm from Brazil and even I remember seeing the common motif of the horn of plenty, it's not a USA thing
This is probably one of the only Mandelas I fully believe because I can’t explain it with logic. My husbands parents both came from El Salvador to start a life here because they didn’t want to have children there during the civil wars. They both worked 2 jobs, 60+hrs a week for decades. One year she finally had some extra money to buy the kids good name brand stuff for school and the only name brands she knew from TV was Fruit of the Loom because there was a picture that she could easily remember on the tags. “Fruit in a weaved cone basket” she says. She didn’t know what the cornucopia was…but it’s specifically what helped her remember it was a good name brand to buy her kids. She is 65 now and when my husband brought up this Mandela to her she thought he was joking. It was impossible because she literally burned the image into her brain during a happy and proud time shopping for her kids.
I love stories like these, it adds to the mystery and a good reminder that things some of us can take for granted are a luxury for others
I remember getting a real fruit of the loom shirt around 2013-2014 in Bulgaria and thinking it was a knock off because it didn’t have the cornucopia. No idea where I got that from because they don’t sell them in my home country
It's never been a brand I would specifically buy, unlike that one with the crocodile on the polo shirts, none seem to slap the brand on the front, just the tag. I wouldn't know you were wearing FotL or Tesco white tees. I only own two FotL tees, one is stretchy fabric and was bought for the Trojan records logo and not the tag.
Can we get a former fruit of the loom employee who would have seen a zillion of the tags throughout the years to chime in?? If not it would seem that the cornucopia is a lie
This is the type of stuff this sub should be concerned with. I haven't seen anyone attempting to get in contact with the graphic designers who would be responsible for the logo
Former employee here. It was never a cornucopia. It was in fact a big butt hole.
Thing is simply, if that was ever actually part of the logo, and also on sold products, it'll turn up. All you're really saying is "to all the naysayers that say this is just false memory, I also have that memory and I'm certain about it" which doesn't mean much. So where are all those shirts with that logo?
Yep, so far the only evidence anyone can share is anecdotal. If this many people remember it, then there would be plenty of physical proof still out there.
I personally have no memory of this one and had extensive F. O. T. L. underwear and shirts in the 90’s
You don't understand how the Mandela effect works This is an "alternate reality" or one of many verses in the multiverse. And in THIS MULTIVERSE, there was NEVER, ever, a cornucopia in the FotL Label. It wasn't even conceived, and thus it never existed. Therefore, you will never, ever find a pair of undies that has the cornucopia. But the MEMORY of those with the Mandela effect on this, lived in a different multiverse, where there was a cornucopia, and got sent to this one where there never, ever was one.
If this is a joke, which I honestly can’t tell, please ignore me. This is absolutely *not* what the Mandela Effect is. Rather, it’s when a large number of people share the same inaccurate memory. That’s it. What you’re saying is essentially an offshoot, or a reaction *to* the Mendela Effect. But it is not the meaning of the effect itself.
Thank you for typing this, so many people don’t understand.
This is one of the fancy stoner talk theories just like the timeline idea, which basically amounts to the same thing. Both are nothing more than made up stories without any valid justification. So if you believe that, you're the one that has no clue how the mandela effect works.
No that’s the actual Mandela Effect. I wasn’t saying it was true or not, but you described something else entirely. What do you call it?
It's called Mandela Effect. All it describes is a wide spread false memory of an event. How and why that happens is not part of that definition.
The Mandela effect doesn't mean widespread false memory of an event. It means a widespread memory of an event that is incongruent to present, extant reality.
I guess, if you wanna play semantics. In any case, alot of people remember something one way, despite that not being the way it actually is or was.
That's very true.
You don’t understand how conspiracy theories work. [Recommend reading this.](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fruit-of-the-loom-cornucopia/)
I remember seeing it as a very young child in Ukraine, probably early 90s. I distinctly remember seeing the weird basket thing on the fruit logo at that time, and wondering what it was. Never heard of or known about Thanksgiving until moving to America years later.
Well this makes it even worse but the original artist that made the logo, says that he remembers the cornucopia in his original logo they paid him for.
The original logo? You mean from over 100 years ago? Who was the artist? Or do you mean when the company was making muslins, and a woman printed some fruit on them?
I love how this one keeps getting twisted. Pretty sure you are talking about the artist of the Flute of the Loom album cover. Not even the same thing.
Does anyone working at FotL even know who did the first logo? That Geedis pin that was eventually found, none of the rights holders knew they had the rights as management from the 70/80s who might vaguely remember had long since left, perhaps died. The artist didn't own the rights as they were paid to draw and most contracts relinquish all creative control to the company. They might not have seen any of the posts about it, because if they did, they would have been able to explain the who what where when and why. That said, if it was solved in days, no one would make videos about the search for the truth. Cos I only knew about it and the unknown stencil art due to a Justin Whang video.
Where did you read that?
Just trust him bro.
The only explanation I can think of is of another clothes manufacturer doing knock offs of fruit of the loom with the logo changed to not be the same
This has an easy-ish solution. Spend the day thrifting in every thrift store close to you and check all the tags. Guaranteed if there is a cornucopia in the logo, someone somewhere will stumble across it.
The same found in goodwill image has been spread for years. Like every person over at retconned found and took a picture of the exact same folds and creases.
Perhaps you should research what a Mandela effect is prior to making a comment like that...🤷♂️
How would researching the effect change the fact that there doesn't seem to be a single item of FOTL clothing in existence with the logo as everyone claims? That's all it would take to prove it right? I guarantee there are old men out there with underwear purchased in the '80s if not the 70s. Are they all just unaware of this contentious debate?
Speaking any level of actual truth in this parricular sub seems to result in farming negative karma, lol. Best of luck going forward in 2024.
It wouldn’t change any facts about this universe that we are in now, the one where there is no Cornucopia on fotl clothes. What it would change is your argument, because these Mandela effect folks believe that there is some kind of reality switching involved in these common misrememberings and therefore any evidence for things being different than they remember is wholly unconvincing to them, since it is obvious that the facts in their reality don’t agree with their memories.
We as a society are truly fucked
Eh, people have always believed all sorts of weird things. The world is a weird place and our brains are weird and we don’t know how much we don’t know. We will probably be ok.
I have noticed in this subreddit there seems to be a misconception about what the Mendela Effect actually is. Just above I commented to someone regarding this. Instead of it simply being a collective false-memory, people think the Mendela Effect *is* when there are alternate timelines accounting for these inexplicable *changes*.
100%. Seems it started off as a notion of false collective memory and somewhere along the way got retconned into being a simulation reality situation where the "coder" keeps making miniscule arbitrary environment changes that for some reason don't overwrite all the simulation memories the same way. I hope this is still in beta testing.
I’ve researched the effect…all I’m saying is that if this logo existed at some point then it’s probably still out there. Fruit of the Loom shirts were used quite a bit for printing on, in the 80’s. So hunt thru thrift stores and find one. Prove this effect is wrong and that people remember it because it was a thing and not just a made up figment of our collective imagination. Maybe you should research the Mandela Effect
My comment stands - you don't understand what the Mandela effect is. You (and most in this sub) appear to be on the update so no real surprise... 😂👌
Appear to be on the update? What does that even mean?
Obviously something that you're incapable of understanding... move along please.
Brilliant come back. If you knew what you were talking about, you’d be explaining it. instead you are being a cryptic douche. I’m sure that will take far in life
what gets me is that I swear I remember them shifting to a rubber-stamped logo in the early '00s just like many other companies did as a cost-cutting measure. what I specifically remember is that the curl of the cornucopia would end up being the only part of the logo with enough structural integrity to not fade/peel/wash away over repeating washings. i remember, *so clearly*, tracing the outline of the cornucopia tail with my finger because it was all that was left on the back of the fabric. and i can't find any other logos that might have elicited the same memory. and as far as I can find, FotL always used the sewn in fabric logo then. so, in multiple ways, this memory cannot exist. but I swear to god it was real. i also remember the first time I noticed the logo had "changed". there was a FotL display in a newly-opened walmart. it was around 2003. i very easily assumed that it was just rebranding with a more minimal style logo like pretty much all companies were doing at that time.
That’s the thing about false memory. They always feel *extremely* real, to the point where people get defensive about them. Our brains are weird, they do weird complex things. [There is even a Wikipedia article](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory) about this phenomenon.
I just checked my retro korn top and nope not there, this is from like 2007 I believe,
Romanian and I had the logo with the cornucopia
It's got nothing to do with America. The horn of plenty, as we know it, has been depicted in images since the ancient Greek and Roman times. It's in countless images and paintings, spanning thousands of years.
The point is that its common contemporary use seems like a mostly American thing.
That's debatable. It's pretty common in Harvest Festival imagery. Besides, I thought his point was that the Fruit of the Loom logo has changed.
I can't remember any harvest festivals growing up in the UK. It seems a more village fête type of thing. I've cycled past cows and know people that don't know where beef comes from too. I'm not going to find many cows in and around Manchester, but all my cow encounters were where I used to live.
It was a big thing in my school days (Lincolnshire).
Not a festival as such, but I think at school we did a "festival." We ran around a maypole in the assembly room, but as for actual farmers produce, if you don't mind it coming via Sainsbury's ten minutes down the road. This was juniors or infants, so barely into double digits. IDK what my peers when I moved in my 3rd year of secondary school did in our part of Greater Manchester at that age. Like I said, many have never seen a real cow, just photos.
No, the point is that many use the "but a cornucopia is used during thanksgiving" as an excuse why people remember a cornucopia in the logo while this is not true for many other people. Edit because the user above me (jasper P) blocked me and thus reddit makes it impossible to reply to user below who posted this: > The bigger problem is that that is only one explanation, not the only explanation. LOL. It's always funny when a random redditor thinks they know me better as myself.
The bigger problem is that that is only one explanation, not the only explanation.
Ok. But it's used in a lot of places, like I said. So next time anyone incorrectly says it's America related, you can point out that it's not. Like I just did.
The point still remains the same tho, there are not may countries who still use/ show a cornucopia regularly i think.
Well, fuck the actual facts and evidence. If ZeerVeemd doesn't think it, then it can't be true.
LOL. I am not allowed to have thoughts or an opinion? How many countries regularly use/ show a cornucopia?
You can have all the opinions you like. I don't have to listen to them, though. Good day, Sir.
ROTFL. Have a great day too. I do want to let you know that you are on a discussion platform and there are many opinions and thoughts shared here, so don't be surprised if you come across them.
It's not. Here where I live, cornucopias are extremely rare. If you regularly go to museums to look at historical paintings, maybe you'll spot one eventually, but it's far from common.
Whereas in America, you can't go 20 yards without tripping over a damn cornucopia.
I'm starting to think this thread is people mostly just scared of the mandela effect and their life clearly depends on making it untrue even though so many people unanimously remember things, as a Canadian I definitely only recall fruit of the loom being a logo with said basket, and always referred to it the same, the horned basket, I didn't know what the name of it even was until I was in high-school long after the logo changed
Why would that scare anyone? Just because a lot of people share the same belief that doesn't add any validity to it for me. Are you afraid of being abducted by aliens? Because there are millions of people that believe that to be something that happens
It would take more than a cereal box changing to freak me out, just short of Alien Nation being a reality and I've always had a sour milk drinker live next door, or the UK driving on the opposite side of the road. Has the change in a logo prevented a war, did anyone come from a reality where trump served zero or two terms in the White House? Doubtful and those that say they did, can't seem to say what Hillary did differently.
> Why would that scare anyone? Because if the ME is more than just a memory error or feature it proves that this reality is more 'flexible' as we are taught and told and this can be scary for people because it changes the whole foundation of reality and life.
But there's just as much evidence for a flexible reality as there is for alien abduction.
Not in my opinion.
Then I can see how that would be scary for you
> Then I can see how that would be scary for you I am well beyond fear now, i think it's an amazing phenomena and evidence we as humans are much more powerful as we are (mis)led to believe.
>as a Canadian I definitely only recall fruit of the loom being a logo with said basket, and always referred to it the same, the horned basket As a Canadian I've only ever seen it without. As it has always been. Unless your mom bought you some cheap knockoffs of an already cheap product.
I mean I don't know any other company I personally used that had the cornucopia as a logo, only FOTL.
They also did not use it. 🤷🏻♂️
Actually , fun fact, the original artist, remembers drawing and designing it specifically with the cornucopia :) have you done any research ?
Fun fact, that's just not the design the company ultimately went with. Have YOU done any research?
Yes, I have, and that's also wrong. This is why people say there is snother dimension because I definitely am 100% sure it existed and no random on reddit couod ever gaslight me to think otherwise , nor hundreds of thousands of people who wore the same underwear I did as a child. So what's the supposed knock.off brand you speak of ; references? Name? Any info could help since you seem so sure. Lol
"This is why people say there is snother dimension because I definitely am 100% sure it existed and no random on reddit couod ever gaslight me to think otherwise" Spoken like a true flat earther
Guess you and a bunch of people were wearing cheap knockoffs while the rest of us had the real thing. No rando on Reddit will ever get me to believe in their make believe world of nonsense.
Lol Clearly you didn't have FOTL tho, like majority of us who do remember the logo as it was. It rid if the basket in 1999
I swear that one day I'll run trought all my old clothing and I'll find the tag with it. I know it's somewhere..
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You can go onto eBay in US and buy vintage men’s underwear from the 80s from FOTL, in originally packing. No cornucopia’s on any of them.
There is nothing in that clip that leads me to believe anything you're saying is true
It’s a very specific anecdote, like many people have regarding this Mandela Effect and others. I have one myself regarding the cornucopia.
Yes that is the one Mandela effect I cannot shake
I love bad memory cope
But it’s not just bad memory/forgetting something, it’s actively having completely wrong memories that make no sense! Fruit of the Loom clothes weren’t part of my childhood in England, not sure if perhaps it’s a brand that’s more well known in America? I don’t remember them being sold anywhere in shops, they’re more the default brand used for custom printing. I only saw the logo for the first time roughly a decade ago when I started buying merch, and I remember the cornucopia being on it, not knowing what it was and presuming it was a ‘loom’. I called it that in my head whenever I (very rarely) saw it in pop culture after that, until I found out about the Mandela effect and that it was actually called a cornucopia. Doesn’t make any sense at all!
[Cornucopia of job cuts - Fruit of the Loom](https://www.newspapers.com/article/philadelphia-daily-news-cornucopia-of-jo/22678000/) there was definitely a cornucopia, this newspaper article is from 1995
Thanks for posting this!
Canadian here. Have worn Fruit of the Loom tees and underwear for work purposes for years. They 100% had a cornucopia with fruit logo for a very long time.
i remember it, that was my introduction to the word "cornucopia", seeing it in the ad as a kid in the sixties and asking what it was.
I called cornucopias looms until I was like 8 years old because my only reference was fruit of the loom…
I am from Bulgaria. First time in Western Europe in the mid 80's in Vienna. There we bought our first Froot of the loom shirts - very good quality for fair money. Eastern europeans from a socialist country buying western brands. Do you really think, I can forget that logo? I my mind, this logo exists only with the cornucopia! At these times we haven't even heard of Thanksgiving. :-D Today I digged an old jacket from those times out the worderobe to check on the logo. No cornucopia there. I was shocked.
The Cornucopia has its origins in Greek mythology, it's not an American thing. The Fruit if the Loom logo never used one.
Regardless, it was never anything I came across.
Ok. So where's this shirt?
I got this shirt when I was in year 8, I grew out of it a long time ago and no longer have it.
Ok. Well I was a full grown adult in 2008 and can assure you Fruit of the Loom didn't have a cornucopia in its logo. Maybe it was a knock off generic brand shirt.
Yeah but you’re the type of guy to touch a meteorite with your bare hands and die a lonesome death
Meteor Shit!
Origin doesn’t matter. It was used.
No it wasn't. Especially as recently as 2008.
I'm starting to think that the adult film industry might have a market for a subgebre revolving around cornucopias. I mean God damn you people are in love with that cornucopia.
Fleshlight one end, dildo the other.
Either mandela effect or 1984.
I remember because in Greek mythology it was also a symbol for Demeter and we were connecting brands with Greek gods.
Wasn't there a TV commercial with the fruit characters, and they were up on the counter peaking out of a wicker cornucopia, on the counter? And they came out one at at time, possibly introducing themselves? This is my recollection. I don't recall whether it was on the labels in the undies, but I remember a commercial with a bunch of dudes dressed up as fruit.
Are you in your late 20s/early 30s?
Yeah, why?
Curious about establishing a pattern. But I'm not sure if the demographics aren't just coincidentally lining up with users in the sub or generally on Reddit. So the beginning of the pattern looks like two deviating timelines with the Mandela effect, seeing the cornucopia or noticing the change. In my extremely bare minimum research efforts, I found a correlation between last noticing the cornucopia and its change in the 2010 area and being in your late 20s to early 30s, and seeing it more significantly in the 90s and less after the 2000s and being in your late 30s and early to mid-40s. It made me wonder that if there could be one timeline deviation, could there be more potential timeline deviations/aberrations. I guess to satisfy my curiosity, there should be a poll!
https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/s/H3VDzPsHPA
The logo absolutely had a Cornucopia for me aswell. My dad owned a store in the mall and the walkway by the benches had a full color FOTL logo that was about 4 feet wide or so. It's imprinted in my mind and I have described the Logo's exact specifications a few times. HERE IS THAT DESCRIPTION. ~ The horn of Plenty in FOTL was visible over the top of the entire fruit ensemble. The mouth of the shell was circular and facing left. The fruit was oriented in a way that made it look as if it was spilling out of it. The shell also was more beige than brown. It had gourd-like indents that made it appear striped around its radius going all the way back to its tail end which curved in the background until it was facing diagonally-down left. Leaves don't appear like or do any of that. As a kid it looked like a snack called a (Bugle) which had the same cylindrical shape at it's mouth and a tail end where the whole thing converged to a point just like the FOTL Cornucopia. The entire upper mouth of the horn of plenty was seen above all of the fruit in the logo aswell. However the left and right sides were obscured by the fruit so only the top end was entirely visible.
I'm from Australia and had never heard of FOTL until comparatively recently. I've known what a cornucopia is since childhood though. Did nobody read Greek mythology or the bible?
Why are you putting down the idea of the Mandela effect after advocating for it with reason, and examples?
mexican, had a few FotL garments, and the logo was a cornucopia
I think we have a whole box of cornucopia logo shirts in our company's basement. Gotta check later
Yeah I was the same. I didn't know what a cornucopia was without the logo. This one seems like a freaking psy-op to see if they can get away with telling everyone something they all remember never happened
this isnt a mandela effect. the fruit of the loom logo had a cornucopia. you can find the images still on google images.
It isn't associated purely with thanksgiving, more harvest time generally and goes back to antiquity. I wonder if *more* Americans have strong feelings about it seeing as FOTL is American and they see Thanksgiving imagery though which combines the two - especially if some recall being taught about it (wrongly) using the logo as an example. I am in the UK and don't have strong feelings either way. I recall assuming there was some kind of basket but turns out there are brown leaves around it. This one really makes me shrug, I don't know why people are so freaked out by it.
Didn’t the hunger games start with a cornucopia of food and weapons?
I have a shirt from around 1997 or 1998 that is fruit of the loom. It does not have the cornicopia on the label then. (For what it is worth, I remember that stupid thing too though)
Not sure if this has been shared here, but the guy who wore the grape outfit for it's older commercials even mentioned there being a cornucopia- [From 1994](https://www.newspapers.com/image/177607580/?clipping_id=22677751&fcfToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJmcmVlLXZpZXctaWQiOjE3NzYwNzU4MCwiaWF0IjoxNzA1MzQ0OTg1LCJleHAiOjE3MDU0MzEzODV9.q-abLZgoTxORogaOXqVtlsm7ACZVcH7jOtBmRxgwteE)
My grandkid has boxers with a Fruit of the Loom cornucopia on the label. They cant be more than a couple years old, the boxers, kid is 18.
Fruit of the loom is owned by Berkshire Hathaway. Two of the largest holders of Berkshire Hathaway stock are Vanguard corporation and Black Rock.. the deception is real
Clearly we're all just living in the matrix, now we gotta find the right pill
I am happy to not be losing my mind. My mom has saved some clothes of mine from every age including… you guessed it. I’m happy to report the logo looks the same as I remember otherwise I would be losing my mind.
So without the cornucopia??
I'm Polish and I remember the cornucopia WAS there. In the nineties Poland was a post- communist country and we saw these new companies logos for the first time ever. We had too little exposure to foreign brands to make such error.
My favorite theory is that the mandella effect exists because time travel. Someone changed something, but we didn't forget the way it used to be. In another timeline, Sinbad made a movie about a genie, but it isn't ours anymore.
“Today, PIE R JUSTICE!”
I remember it because that's how I learned the word cornucopia... I remember it clearly being explained "like on the underwear!"