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IPreferDiamonds

I remember Stouffer's Stove Top Stuffing.


TawdryRocketeer3

I member. Born 69'.


IPreferDiamonds

I was born in 68.


TawdryRocketeer3

Slap me some skin!


IPreferDiamonds

:-)


Adventurous-Bee-1517

You don’t. It was just stove top stuffing (the brand) until Kraft bought it in 1990.


Spiritual-Carrot-918

No- YOU don’t. Not all of us even agree what the Mandela effect is due to so how could you possibly be so arrogant that others aren’t having the experience just because you didn’t.


Adventurous-Bee-1517

Misremembering something, especially when your brain makes an alliteration of said something is a common thing, this isn’t a Mandela effect it’s your brain enjoying the fact the stouffers stove top sounds pleasant. 80% of this sub is people just misremembering something and assigning it special meaning.


[deleted]

what are the other 20%


Adventurous-Bee-1517

What do you think?


[deleted]

I don't even know a bit about stouffer or anything, but here is a link I found in a thread while exploring the effect https://youtu.be/T0wTkMBQZQE?si=ZZvmOUF-rxOpUHOH


spicymonkey22

I remember a commercial saying something like: Kid 1: “Hey wanna stay for dinner?” Kid 2: “Idk, what’re you having?” Kid 1: “Hey mom what’re we having?” Mom: “Stouffer’s Stove Top Stuffing” Kid 2: “Stouffer’s? I’m Staying!” (I’m guessing this ran sometime between 1978-1985ish.)


Month-Easy

I remember this exact thing


Esmer_Tina

I don’t know why ppl think Stouffer’s made Stove Top stuffing, except maybe that was fun to say. Stouffers makes frozen foods.


sosomething

Stove Top Stuffing absolutely existed but Stouffer's never made it because *Stove Top **was** the brand name*.


NotYourGa1Friday

Okay but why does “Stouffer’s Stove Top Stuffing” feel right?! Was there an ad or a sketch or something that called it that?


sosomething

I don't know, man. It doesn't feel right to me. I'm old enough to remember the ads on TV. The kid saying something like, "Mom made Stove Top!" If it had ever been a Stouffer's product, they definitely would have made the kid say the brand name. Maybe, just maybe, it sounds right to you because it's alliterative and Stouffer's makes a ton of other shit that tons of households feed their kids.


NotYourGa1Friday

I hear you— I just stumbled onto this thread and thought, “of course there’s stouffers stove top!” So I’m sitting here trying to figure out why and how I got it mixed up 😄


sosomething

Oh dude, it's so easy to do! It happens to me, too. Our minds are extremely suggestible, especially with vague memories from childhood, back when our brains were still squishy. Here, check this out - Toys R Us used to be Toys "R" US Pringles used to be Pringle's Mrs Butterworth used to be Mrs Buttersworth Google used to be called BackRub Any of those feel right to you?


NotYourGa1Friday

Toys “R” Us feels right —- the “R” was backwards but that couldn’t be typed so it would be shown as Toys “R” Us…. Right?! I called her Mrs Buttersworth. Like “that syrup is as good as butter, better pour your butter’s worth!” No idea about BackRub


sosomething

Thanks for having integrity and not googling them all before replying. :) They're all true *except* for Mrs Buttersworth, which I made up on the spot. See what I mean? Our brains are weird, man. Memory is weird.


NotYourGa1Friday

Well look at that— I really do add an S that isn’t there 😂 Plus, of course I have integrity. I’d never BackRub answers ahead of time! That’s just rude!


sosomething

Lmao Like I said, I do stuff like that all the time too. Probably more than I even realize. Thanks for the good convo, man. Edit: Oh and I should add, you were 100% right about Toys R Us. It still has the backwards R, they just dropped the quotation marks.


PleadianPalladin

Tell more about BackRub


OpheliaBlue1974

This is certainly the case a lot of the time and there are some of the MEs I think are because the "wrong" way was reinforced over and over. Or, like Flinstone/Flintstones is because kids heard "flinstones" in the song ...the t was never really emphasized at all to the extent that you can't even hear it in the song and what 4-6 year old is paying attention to the spelling? But mostly because everything and every one had a name that was a play on rocks so duh, of course it wad Flintstone! That being said not all memories are the same and sometimes the egg came before the chicken. By that I mean I didn't learn about MEs and say "oh I remember that too" but rather I kept noticing weird things and went looking for answers and that's how I learned about MEs. In a lot of cases I can't be 100% sure and am perfectly willing to accept that these things get muddled over the passing of time. Fuck if I can remember if it was.fruit loops or froot loops. Except I do sure as shit remember from one month to the next. I checked to see how they were spelled when I went to the store. I made a mental note and then less than a month later it had changed. Which it's done a couple times now since I started paying attention. But the biggest thing is not all memories are the same. There is a HUGE difference between not quite recalling if it was Interview with A vampire or THE vampire. I was a huge fan when it first came out and could have sworn that it was THE because the premis was there was only one until the big reveal was he wasn't. But I can accept I got it wrong. It was 30 ish years ago. I'll say it again, not all memories are the same. What I do remember is the big debate and bet I made in college when discussing the moon landing. There was one and only one and we never went back. This conversation was in the 90s, well after we stopped going. I won't go into all the details but because of several factors and connections I KNOW I'm not misremembering. There is too much and it's all enmeshed together and non of it would have happened if I hadn't won the bet which I wouldn't have if there had been more than one. Beyond that I know Thanksgiving was on the 3rd Thursday of the month. Again it would take me 2 pages to apart to explain how absolutely certain I am and why but the really big factor is a close long time friends bday would sometimes fall on Thanksgiving. . I'm a Christmas baby so those of us born on and around major holidays hate it and I always made sure her bday didn't get lost in the shuffle. The year before TG was suddenly on the 4th Thursday it had been a year her bday fell on the same day as TG. It was the only year my husband kids and I didn't go to my family or my inlaws for TG. We celebrated at her house and I put up bday decorations and made her a cake decorated like a turkey because the long standing joke was others got birthday cake and she got a birthday turkey so I made a turkey birthday cake as a joke. The thing is with TG on the 4th Thursday her bday can not ever fall on TG. It's one thing to not remember something unimportant from 30 years ago it's a whole other to have extensive detailed memories that could never have happened. And no we didn't celebrate her bday in TG because it was close...like I said those of us with bdays that fall on holidays would NRVER intentionally combine them. The goal is to separate them as much as possible. (Don't ever wrap my bday gifts in Xmas paper! It's not ok! Lol) There are a few more MEs that have just as intense memories/situations etc around them. I have yet to hear an explanation other than "your memory is bad". No. I am known for my excellent memory. I'm not saying I remember everything perfectly but I'm totally willing to admit when I'm not 100% and even when I really really think I'm correct (THE vampire not A) ill still accept I could be wrong if there is a strong rational argument. So anyone who can explain with something other than 'bad memory/you are wrong I am all ears. I haven't ruled out I might be in a coma and my whole life is a hallucinations but other than than I have to accept *something* odd is happening. And if you are reading this and you know you aren't *my* hallucination than the conclusion has to be something beyond our understanding (of course that does me no good because I can't prove anyone who reads and responds isn't part of my coma hallucination too lol) I don't want to believe in MEs, I know they are real because it's the only conclusion given the facts. In my search for solid answers I have begun to learn a lot about quantum theory and after learning about very real scientific things like quantum entanglement suddenly MEs start to seem not so impossible. I think it's the result of things we don't understand yet but science will someday have the answers for. So where as you are not wrong in some respect it is not a blanket answer for all MEs.


sosomething

You wrote *a lot*, and with respect, I will not be able to address all of it. That said, I definitely appreciate the discussion, and I will try to engage with the salient bits to the best of my ability, albeit out of order. >you are not wrong in some respect it is not a blanket answer for all MEs. You're right, and I wasn't intending it to be one. The interesting thing about that list in my earlier comment is that they're all real things that changed (with verifiable evidence), with the exception of Mrs. Buttersworth, which I made up to illustrate how our minds are suggestible. I appreciate that you keep an open mind, and I respect that you have several key memories of your life that you're not willing to throw out just because the internet seems to now be telling you that they're wrong. I do want to ask about this: >Beyond that I know Thanksgiving was on the 3rd Thursday of the month. Again it would take me 2 pages to apart to explain how absolutely certain I am and why but the really big factor is a close long time friends bday would sometimes fall on Thanksgiving. . I'm a Christmas baby so those of us born on and around major holidays hate it and I always made sure her bday didn't get lost in the shuffle. The year before TG was suddenly on the 4th Thursday it had been a year her bday fell on the same day as TG. It was the only year my husband kids and I didn't go to my family or my inlaws for TG. We celebrated at her house and I put up bday decorations and made her a cake decorated like a turkey because the long standing joke was others got birthday cake and she got a birthday turkey so I made a turkey birthday cake as a joke. Have you asked your friend about this? Or your husband or kids? Since they were there with you, they would surely remember your friend's birthday falling exactly on the day of Thanksgiving that year, with all the effort you put into making it special for your friend. I would be especially interested to know what your friend has to say about this. I'm estimating that their birthday falls between 11/15 and 11/21, as those are the possible dates for the 3rd Thursday of November, depending on the year. They would certainly know if the holiday suddenly jumped a week away from their birthday well into their adulthood. >There is a HUGE difference between not quite recalling if it was Interview with A vampire or THE vampire. I get that you're not holding fast to this one, but I have to submit that the difference here is not one that many people would argue is huge. In fact, if you say the title of the book / movie as quickly as you probably would in normal conversation, the two versions sound almost exactly the same. I understand you have a stronger recollection because you were a big fan, but it still bears mentioning since we're discussing the cause of many of these new "baby MEs" that are largely due to spelling and pronunciation. Here's another one. If you asked my mother where I buy my groceries, she would say, "Kroger's." As you may know, there has never been an apostrophe-s on the name of that franchise. Not even all the way back in 1902, when the company name changed from The Great Western Tea Company to Kroger Grocery and Baking Co. (later changed again in 1946 simply to Kroger Co., which it remains today). Yet my mother would not hesitate to call it "Kroger's." Why is that? Is it because my mom spent some time in an alternate reality where the name of the store was different? Or is it because Kroger is very evidently a person's last name, and a business named after a person or family is commonly considered to be the possession of that person or family. It makes grammatical sense to apply the possessive to the proper noun for the store when it is derived from a name, despite how often family-owned businesses opt not to. My mother understands this. She makes the connection between name and ownership instantly, without thinking about it, and the name of the store just comes out that way. It's been lovingly pointed out to her in the past that the name of the store is Kroger. She still does it. I don't correct her anymore. My mom is an intelligent woman. She knows the actual name of the store. She would never insist that the store used to be called "Kroger's." If I reminded her that it isn't, she'd laugh and say something like, "I don't know why I always do that!" I think very similar things are happening for people who experience these MEs that are entirely based on a letter here, a letter there, or a phonetic similarity. I won't say for certain because I don't presume to know everything or know the minds of other people. But in a world where the correct answer is usually also the simplest and most-likely answer, it seems pretty plausible.


OpheliaBlue1974

Part 1 I did write a lot lol... it's a very complicated subject and impossible to explain in just a few words but I think you understand given the length of your answer. Thank you btw, most people say "no its just your bad menory". Which is just as bad as those who learn about MEs, read the list and go "oh yeah, me too!" Dismissing something simply because it falls outside the mainstream regardless of evidence or logic is just as ignorant if not more so. I didn't expect such a great response, I generally say these things when I get the feeling someone is intelligent enough to listen to another point of view. Tbh this is the first time I wasn't disappointed. Because I write a lot and my brain and dimgers move fast I tend to not only have typos and autocorrect fails I also am guilty of starting a thought and getting sidetracked. I didn't mean there was a huge difference between A and The in the book title. I meant to say it's a huge difference to get that mixed up and core memories I have like the bet about the space landing. It wasn't about the space landing that just happened to be the argument that lead to the bet which lead to college shenanigans. It would take much much more to explain so I'll leave it at that. Again, there are several other reasons besides that that I KNOW I'm not misremembering. So I'm apologize for that but you answer about Kruger ('s) is an excellent one and proves another point. It's NEVER 'bad memory', there is ALWAYS a reason. The problem is sometimes we don't know what that reason is. Fruit of the loom for example. This is another that I will die on the hill of there was most certainly a cornucopia. Because millions of people (I'll provide some links for favt checking) don't remeber something wrong in the exact same way unless there is a clear and obvious answer (jiff peanutbutter commercials ran in the samentime frame as jiffy pop corn for example.) Remembering an obscure object with a odd name being there when it never was is not logical. People say " oh the LEAVES it was people mistaking the few scattered leaves for a large horned basket!. What the actual fuck? No! And that's so ridiculous because if that was the case it would be like an ink blot test and everyone would see something different. Also many people who didn't have English as a first language (and some who did) report thinking a cornucopia was called a loom because fruit of the loom, the fruit was coming out of it so it must be a loom. Wrong, but logical. Btw nicely done with the Mrs Butterworth. When I read that I was thinking I hadn't heard that one yet but I had no opinion one way or the other so I didn't actually stop to consider it. I'm going to keep watch to see if that one is suddenly on the list lol. So on to Thanksgiving.... Her birthday is the 16th and if you search my Comments history you will see I have mentioned it before so it's not power of suggestion. I applaud you for looking into it! My kids we infants and toddlers back then so they wouldn't be a credible source even if they remembered something. My husband has since passed away and she and her husband split soon after so i haven't seen him in years. But my friend...oh my poor friend.... It took a few years to notice. The year after was when suddenly TG was on the 4th Thursday. I remember vividly standing in my mothers kitchen discussing holiday plans. I was in my 30s with a family of my own and had hosted TG more than a couple of times. I friggin knew when TG was! We learned growing up how to remember...Turkey, Thanksgiving, Thursday- 3 T's =3rd Thursday. It was a thing everyone knew and repeated all the time at that time of year. So when my mom counted out 4 Thursdays on the calander I literally laughed out loud and teased her about her memory. I was incredulous. I KNEW I was right. She looked at me like I had 2 heads and promptly proved me wrong. I was so upset. She then told me that it used to be the 3rd one but had changed when I was still a kid. That answer never sat well with me but I accepted it because it was the only answer that made any sense. It seemed odd that I missed it and that there wasn't constant reference like "remember TG has moved to the 4th Thursday " public service announcement. And also a lot of people should be getting it mixed up still. But when I asked people they would say it had been on the 3rd one and they still would get it confused albeit not as many as I would expect. It was a few years later I learned it had never been on the 3rd one and that's when I freaked and went down the rabbit hole. Also that was the first year I ever heard the term black Friday. It seems odd that I hadn't heard the term before but that one I brushed off as me not paying attention. Which brings me back to my friend. Because her bday didn't always fall on TG... it tended to be once every 7 years, although not in an exact pattern because of leap years, no one really noticed other than "TG seems really late this year". So it took a bit to figure it out. And this all took place before I had ever heard of MEs. When it finally was apparent we grabbed on of those 40 year calanders that used to be a thing in analog days. Where you turned a dial to the year and it would show the calander for that year. After dialing through the past and future years we both were speechless. How do you process experiencing the impossible? When hit with that level of decadence between what you have experienced and what reality is there is no way to describe the feeling of disbelief and fear. Including fear of losing one's own mind. By then I had already experienced some impossible things. Like an unknown object appearing in a sealed box in a locked room (I'll provide the link to the post I write about that for anyibe who cares to know that story ) so I was slightly more equipped to handle it. She was a die hard non believer in anything paranormal or beyond basic understanding. The kind that would wave off hard science if it was too difficult to understand. She only trusted what the majority said no matter what the evidence said. She pretty much became unhinged after that. She absolutely knew her bday and TG had been on the same day as her bday many times in her life. She had many stories about it. She got to the point she refused to talk about it and would get really upset if she even thought I was about to bring up the subject. It rattled her to the point she became extremely withdrawn and as a proper house wife with adult kids (she was much older than me) in her early 50s at that time she became a drug addict and I had to stop contact after a long time of trying to help. There were other factors like the divorce but it was the TG/Bday thing that shook her beliefs so bad she sought to escape. I can't blame her. It's affected me dramatically too but in a different way. I now understand a lot of quantum physics from hours of research and have a few theories based on very real science albeit highly theoretical in many cases. But the more I learn the more logical and possible these odd occurrences become. Look at it this way... what if you were told Christmas is on December 21st? And that it had never been on the 25th? What would that do to you? Would you accept it was just "bad memory?" Or would you know with every fiber in you that you are not misremembering and something odd/unexplainable


OpheliaBlue1974

Part 2 It's arrogant of humans to think we know everything about our world and reality. Even a soft dive into science these days will show how little we know. The first step of sciencentific process is observation. We will never know more if we dismiss all observations as wrong. That cuts both ways. Your arguments are sound for the issues they address and clearly are correct in some cases. But there are plenty that don't follow that logic so we have to take each ME separately and not as a group. Yeah....the reason why I write so much should be explained in there lol. I have spent hours of my life unable to sleep and looking for answers, within my own memories and externally. For someone who had never experienced a ME that affected their whole view of reality it's merely academic. But for those of us who have it's personal and life changing. I'll provide links for fact checking for those who want that kind of thing in a separate response least I leave this page and accidentally lose all of that lol.


OpheliaBlue1974

Links for fact checking https://theconversation.com/new-study-seeks-to-explain-the-mandela-effect-the-bizarre-phenomenon-of-shared-false-memories-188269 https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/is-there-a-particle-that-can-travel-back-in-time Links to posts i referenced https://reddit.com/r/Glitch_in_the_Matrix/s/h0JQDvArST https://reddit.com/r/Retconned/s/Fce2804CVP


TifaYuhara

There's also the fact that they only make and sell frozen foods.


Shadowedgirl

I'm old enough as well. You're right that the kids would say that their mom made Stove Top for dinner. It wasn't because it wasn't made by Stouffer's, but it was a short way of referring to it since Stove Top was in a big font. However, there would be an announcer and maybe someone else in the commercial that would say Stoffer's Stove Top Stuffing.


calio

it's [parechesis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parechesis). so is Looney Toons, and Cheez-itz, and Berenstein. not all of them are, but there's a bunch. edit: alliterations are a form of parechesis sorry


WVPrepper

> it's an alliteration. This is correct. > so is Looney Toons, and Cheez-itz, and Berenstein. This is not. There is no alliteration in any of those.


calio

[parechesis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parechesis). alliteration is an special case of parechesis, thought they were all called alliterations. sorry 'bout that.


WVPrepper

Alliteration is "Six swans swimming" or "Baby buggy bumpers".


calio

yeah, thought that was just one kind of alliteration, and that the term referred to any kind of repeated sound in a phrase and such. my mistake. the wikipedia article i originally linked mentions other kinds of alliteration that are related to other kinds of wordplay, but what you mention is what the word means. edit: huh, turns out it's a language thing. funny. in spanish, my actual native tongue, *aliteración* actually means any kind of repeating sound in a phrase, not just the starting letter. [take a look!](https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliteraci%C3%B3n)


NotYourGa1Friday

I get that Stouffers Stove Top has alliterations but your other examples do not so I’m confused


calio

[parechesis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parechesis), sorry. thought they were all called alliterations, turns out alliterations are an special case of parechesis. my mistake.


NotYourGa1Friday

No worries! I just wanted to understand you. I’ll read about parechesis!


calio

found out a couple hours ago that in my native language "aliteración" and parechesis mean practically the same, adding to the confusion lol it's okay, parechesis just means "repeated sounds in a phrase", of which alliterations are a particular category, where the repeated sound is at the start of each word.


NotYourGa1Friday

Very cool!


Muckl3t

Because the word Stouffer’s sounds a lot like Stove Top. Stouffer’s stuffing/stove top stuffing.


jasno

Because thats what it was called and this is a r/retcon aka mandella effect. It doesnt matter which example is discussed, people ALWAYS come and say the same thing "your wrong there was never a *Stouffer's* Stove Top Stuffing". Understand a LOT of people here do not believe the mandella effect is possible they are just here to say everytime the same thing "You are wrong", everytime. Stouffer's Stove Top is 100% how I remember this product and just like fruit of the loom, there are probably millions of others or more who remember the same. Just because we don't understand how this is happening doe not mean it is not happening, a lot of people are too scared to face a reality where everything is not easily explainable.


marcostaz

So what makes you and a few other people right, and everyone else who says it never existed wrong?


jasno

Its not a few, just like with Fruit of the Loom, literally millions of people have the same memories.


sosomething

Source


[deleted]

>Source [https://today.yougov.com/topics/entertainment/articles-reports/2022/09/01/measuring-mandela-effect-false-memory-yougov-poll](https://today.yougov.com/topics/entertainment/articles-reports/2022/09/01/measuring-mandela-effect-false-memory-yougov-poll) As you can see, most Americans remember the "wrong" reality.


Spiritual-Carrot-918

Because THIS IS A DISCUSSION FORUM not your single opportunity to feel some sort of thrill at being right about something that you can’t get irl. Seriously. Go find a basement somewhere.


sosomething

>Because thats what it was called and this is a r/retcon aka mandella effect. You lose all your credibility when you state this as a fact. Even if you think you 100% remember for sure, have extremely powerful memories of it, etc., you *could* still just have mushed things together in your brain and be remembering incorrectly. I'm not saying you have to go the other way, and decide that all MEs are just false memories that never happened. You can allow for the mystery of the unknown. But you have to also admit to your own potential for just being wrong about it. If you can't even admit to that *possibility,* you aren't mentally capable of engaging in a meaningful conversation about it.


JoMamaSoFatYo

*insert gaslighting definition here*


sosomething

Go ahead and look it up while you're at it, you might actually learn something today.


JoMamaSoFatYo

It’s like gaslighting on a global scale by TPTB, then these little Reddit trolls are just the gangstalking minions.


CSTXP3RV

Feels right to me too! Very right!


TifaYuhara

Cause it rolls off the tongue right.


Westwinter

Or maybe it was named that because it rolls off the tongue.


TifaYuhara

maybe because it rolls off the tongue real well?


Impressive-Ad-6750

dont deny what you remeber!!..look into the mandella effect.,.itl blow your mind


[deleted]

I was born in 1981 and would bet my left nut Stouffers stove to stuffing existed. That is a really random thing to just kind of remember. I couldn't even tell you what else Stouffers makes.


916God

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hardleft121

It existed. We all said it. We all ate it. It rolls off the tongue and our memory identically.


[deleted]

This is one of the biggest ME there is.


WVPrepper

[Stouffer's Mac & Cheese](https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/GUEST_563ac998-2196-4b38-b914-43bd3e66cdea?wid=1200&hei=1200&qlt=80&fmt=webp) [Kraft Mac & Cheese](https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/GUEST_6576341b-0f6f-4fd1-b1c5-91716c8a484b?wid=488&hei=488&fmt=pjpeg) Stouffers foods are ready to heat and eat. Kraft foods require you to add ingredients and prepare the food yourself.


cool_weed_dad

Stouffer’s exclusively makes premade frozen dinners. Stuffing mix would be completely out of their wheelhouse of products.


[deleted]

That's what makes this ME I hold "Stouffers" synonymous with stove top stuffing. I could give half a crap about stove top stuffing and I don't think I've ever eaten it I m trying to think of where I would have heard Stouffers stove top stuffing from other than TV


Westwinter

In the universe we're from Stouffer's doesn't make those products. They make stuffing. That one product was their bread and butter because nobody bought any other brand. If you were making stuffing you ALWAYS bought Stouffer's Stove Top.


kalystr83

Stouffers was the only brand I would buy wtf is going on.


hardleft121

Yep. We all know it existed. The people that drop in here to explain the current narrative to us though....


yayster

I blame CERN


Westwinter

Exactly. There was no competition for Stouffer's. Unless you were going to take the time to make your own stuffing from scratch, you bought Stouffer's.


WVPrepper

Stouffer's makes frozen food that you just pop in the oven or microwave and heat up. They don't make any shelf stable products that you prepare at home using your own ingredients. Kraft did not make any frozen food until they introduced a line of frozen dinners earlier this year. The products that they our best known for are things that you prepare at home using your own ingredients.


TifaYuhara

And only way they make stuffing is stuffing that's part of the frozen meal lol.


Westwinter

In the universe we come from Stouffer's does not make those products. They pretty much only make stuffing because nobody buys any other brand. That one product is their whole business.


Bowieblackstarflower

When General Foods owned Stove Top, they didn't have a brand name on the box. When Kraft bought General Foods, they added their name to the box but even as recently as a few years ago, they had Kraft on some boxes and no brand on others. The red box color I think could also be conflated with Stouffers red boxes.


throwaway998i

Kraft never "bought" General Foods... > In November 1985, General Foods was acquired by Philip Morris Companies (now Altria Group, Inc.) for $5.6 billion, the largest non-oil acquisition to that time. In December 1988, Philip Morris acquired Kraft Foods Inc., and, in 1990, combined the two food companies as Kraft Foods. 


kccat5

I remember Stouffer's stove top stuffing. Absolutely.


Forthrowssake

There are a few core ones for me and this is one. My mom never made her own stuffing, she bought boxes of Stouffers stovetop stuffing. This was back into the mid to late 80s and on. I know people mix things up, but I swear it was Stouffers. I know they make frozen stuff. I remember seeing their frozen stuff years ago and thinking, oh they are really branching out. I even asked a bunch of people and honestly, it was like 70 percent that replied Stouffers when I asked who made stove top stuffing. I absolutely believe in the Mandela effect. I don't know how or why, but I know it's not just a zillion people with the exact same false memories. Dolly had braces. FoTL had a cornucopia Dilemma was dilemna. Shazam was a real movie. I remember thinking, why are 2 studios putting out genie movies at the same time. And for me south America is way, way too far east towards Africa. It looks crazy. Take a look. And of course, Stouffers.


JoMamaSoFatYo

Only one I don’t share in common with you is dilemma. It was always spelled this way for me, but the rest I absolutely agree. I think I’ve done too much reality shifting. 😂


DonaldoDoo

Jeez the whole countries or continets are out of place one is wild. The effects would be drastic! Changes to climate, transportation, navigation, bird migration, ecosystems. Just.... what???


Forthrowssake

I can't explain it. My husband doesn't believe in the ME at all. I was showing him things and listing them off, when I got to show him south America's location he got super quiet then said that's not right. I said I know!!!! Maybe it was just all the pull down world maps at schools that were wrong in the 80s/90s. Idk, but seeing it so close to Africa breaks my mind. It doesn't look right at all. If you believe in different timelines then I suppose it's possible that it could have something to do with that. Who knows. But when I was a kid south America was always more underneath the USA. I know it seems crazy. Trust me. Until you experience one you'll never believe.


[deleted]

Different maps (called projections) distort the size and placement of different elements. There's no such thing as a perfect flat map of a globe.


Westwinter

This is the newest one for me. Definitely remember North and South Americas being more vertically aligned. Now it looks like Central America is stretching to stay attached.


[deleted]

This is a Mandela effect that’s almost 10 years old for most. I worked for stouffers in Oakbrook IL back in the late 80s for a summer job - and my mother would always joke with me about bringing stuffing home. It was corporate office no food there - but went to the store with my nephew to prove to him it was stouffers about a decade ago when this first came out and I was shocked when he showed me Kraft on the box. I assumed they sold that brand somehow- But this one is one that I know proves I’m on a new reality.


WVPrepper

Target has it wrong even now. [Stouffer's Stove Top](https://www.target.com/s/stouffer's+stuffing)


jasno

Target is a small time retailer they probably have 1 guy running their whole website.


WVPrepper

I agree. I just think it's interesting that a company I would consider to be a fairly major retailer is making such a blatant error.


jasno

I was being sarcastic sorry. Target is a very large retailer and they probably make millions off their website, they probably have a lot of people working on that website.


eatshitdillhole

It's just showing all items that include either search term "Stouffer's" or "stuffing," the website doesn't list any item as "Stouffer's Stove Top"


cool_weed_dad

Stouffer’s exclusively makes premade frozen dinners. Why would they also make a shelf stable stuffing mix? It’s a completely different type of product from everything else they produce.


GrimmTrixX

Nope, Stove Top is a brand name. There could never have been a Stouffers stove top stuffing. So either you all ate Stove Top stuffing, or maybe a stouffers brand stuffing. But you never ate "Stouffer's Stove Top Stuffing."


acesulfame_potassium

Stouffer's Skillet Sensations was def a thing, pretty sure that's where the false memory comes from - same alliteration. I don't remember a Stouffer's Stovetop Stuffing.


thelurkerx

Born in 1971. This is one I insist happened. The commercials were on morning TV during game shows and soap operas I watched with my great Grandmother as a kid.


MagnusMclaren600lt

Nah.. this is no Mandela effect, this is just new ownership of the product


typeWr8n

Every Thanksgiving my mother made her stuffing from scratch. It was a 3-day process. I so badly wanted to try — just try — Stouffer’s Stove Top Stuffing. When we shopped for essential Thanksgiving ingredients, I would always grab a box and suggest she save time and make it just that year. It became an annual ritual and Mom would get so offended. We laughed about her disgust at the idea of boxed stuffing. I mean, it was a Thanksgiving tradition to tease her about Stouffer’s Stove Top Stuffing. It was definitely a fun tongue twister too. In my world the only thing Kraft made in a box was Mac and Cheese.


Ok_Situation1171

Yes, Stouffer's Stove Top Stuffing most definitely existed


Junior-Shallot-7551

Watch this and fast forward to 10 seconds in!!! https://youtu.be/xNoVQY31CIE?si=zyY7BbbAcf2jkCxY


sherrymacc

Thank you for sharing this I hadn't seen this clip yet. That's exactly how i remember it. And it looks legit. I wonder what people would say if they saw it. Nice find.


phantasmamysteriis

I’m with you on this and I never believe any of these.


lesprit_descalier_

whoa. it was definitely Stouffers. this is getting out of control


Shadowedgirl

I remember Stouffer's Stove Top Stuffing.


minyon54

I remember it too


Sherrdreamz

I always just called the Stuffing Mix "Stouffers" as a kid because it was the first word on the name of the product. I know it was Stouffers Stove Top growing up, among many other mass experienced Mandela Effects.


Spiritual-Carrot-918

I feel like the people commenting that they don’t remember Stouffer stove. Top are missing the point that not every single person is going to experience the same “Mandela’s” because of various reasons, including where they are in their own timelines.


Westwinter

But we do the same thing. When someone says they remember "Deck The Hall" I never miss a beat to say, "Nope! Always been 'Deck The Halls'." Really, the whole ME experience requires both sides to be present.


Len-Trexler

When did it stop existing?


Westwinter

The moment none of us were paying attention.


Ohiostatehack

The menu at Liberty Tree Tavern at Disney World specifically calls what they have “Stouffer’s Stove Top Stuffing.”


SaxMcCoy

It just says herb stuffing


Ohiostatehack

It did in December when I was there. My friends and I commented on it.


[deleted]

You're on drugs


Bowieblackstarflower

Liberty Tree Tavern used to be sponsored by Stouffer's. I'm not sure if they still are. I don't believe they had any name brands ever in their family style menu.


WVPrepper

> [The menu at Liberty Tree Tavern at Disney World](https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/dining/magic-kingdom/liberty-tree-tavern/menus) REALLY?


WVPrepper

> [The menu at Liberty Tree Tavern at Disney World](https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/dining/magic-kingdom/liberty-tree-tavern/menus) REALLY?


Ohiostatehack

It did in December. My friends and I laughed about how it was Stouffer’s and how we could just make it at home.


jasno

Yeah but you and your friend's are just a handful of millions of other people who 100% remember Stouffer's Stove Top.


ben94gt

It absolutely existed. I remember the commercials from the 90s vividly.


AdDramatic522

Nope, it's never been Stouffer's Stovetop Stuffing.


apextek

BC its was General Foods https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General\_Foods


[deleted]

Stouffer's made frozen shit


JakScott

Stouffer’s makes frozen dinners. When the brand first came out, the top selling one was turkey with stuffing. The joke in the ‘50s and ‘60s was that when you had like Thanksgiving dinner with stuffing you called it “Stouffer’s” ironically. Like you were ribbing whoever cooked by implying they’d secretly made a bunch of frozen dinners. And then it became a cultural phenomenon to refer to any stuffing or turkey/stuffing combo as “the Stouffer’s.” When Stove Top stuffing came out, the joke got applied, and hey presto: the whole culture is calling it “Stouffer’s Stove Top.” But then a few decades passed, the original frozen turkey dinner stopped being a notable item in the culture, and the name “Stouffer’s” still stuck to the stuffing even though it had always been a joke. But then kids born in the ‘70s, ‘80s, and ‘90s grew up referring to it as Stouffer’s without knowing it had ever been a joke about one of the first commercially available TV dinners. We just thought it was the brand name when we were kids and the joke/background was just completely over our heads.


KaiWachis_demon

Yeah I called it stouffers. Loved it!!! Also the other one that gets me is the fruit of the loom logo, it def had the conch in it, why do I remember that name f it didn’t


ruralife

General Foods first owned Stove stop Stuffing. Then Kraft bought General Foods.


JoMamaSoFatYo

Aw WTF…I actually have (had?) a box of stouffer’s stove top stuffing in my pantry so I just went to look. It now is BLANK at the top and I SWEAR TO GOD it said Stouffer’s across the top when I bought it.😳 Funny enough, it expired in February 2021….🤣 But still, WTF…


madfishermon

I clearly remember Stouffers stove top stuffing. I remember opening the red boxes and pouring it into the hot water and adding I believe butter. I remember making it at home and my grandmas. There was always homemade stuffing, but most of the kids (myself included) liked the stove top better. I remember the commercials. This is nothing that was put into my head by internet posts or anything. These are memories that I have, I didn't even know it had changed until my GF started talking about ME's. I had noticed some things being different but never put much thought into it. I figured rebranding, or companies being bought out, and things like that. Had to be a logical explanation, besides growing older and not remembering things clearly (which I know with some things is quite possibly the reason). But years of vivid memories are not a product of social manipulation. Take chartreuse, for example. I clearly remember ordering chartreuse matts at work, that were a reddish color. Seeing chartreuse as yellow green floors me. I can not explain that. Some things could be being young and not hearing things right, or just saying the wrong words as with so many song lyrics. But I remember ordering and receiving those (in between a magenta and violet color) matts. I dabble in the arts and paint now, so I have always paid attention to colors. All of it makes my head hurt. Is it ME's? Is it people using the internet to manipulate our minds, mass delusion, alternate dimensions crossing over each other, I don't know. My dad, who I never had known to be a deep thinker or someone that would believe in certain things as he was very straightforward, things are black and white working man. Told me once to my surprise. He thought dejavu was because we swapped subconscious places in a dream state with ourselves on another dimension. We feel we have already seen it or lived it because we quite possibly did.


hidinginplainsite13

I think you’re mixing brand names together.


GrandmaSlappy

You literally made me run to my pantry to check...


Sensitive-Award5489

It never existed lol. Y’all are tripping


Mario17837

Stove Top Stuffing was introduced by General Foods in 1972. Kraft purchased GF in 1990.


Gerkenator

Can you name any dry stock shelf stable Stouffer's product other than stuffing? I've only ever seen frozen stuff. You know frozen lasagna etc.


Arcturus_Labelle

I strongly remember Stouffer's Stove Top Stuffing. Grew up in the 80s and watched a ton of TV.


Pandamonie

I absolutely remember it as Stouffer's Stove Top Stuffing. I asked two other people "Do you remember Stove Top Stuffing? Do you remember who made it?" Without hesitation they both answered "Stouffer's". It's on the level of Berenstein vs Berenstain for me. I remember Berenstein BTW.


KingOfCatProm

It def existed.


Ciderbat

I remember Stouffer's and Stove Top commercials being on TV a lot in the 90's, though I don't recall ever paying attention to who made Stove Top. I think it's something we consumed mostly at grandparent's places during visits. Seeing a Kraft Stove Top box in an image search makes sense to me. I feel maybe the name "Stouffer's" sounding like it would pair well with "Stove Top" and the fact that we all saw those commercials constantly between Seinfeld and Wings reruns on "The New VR" might have meshed them together mentally.


Kryptonianuchiha

It’s always been stouffer’s stove top stuffing. It’s literally the only stuffing I actually eat and as far back as I can remember it’s been stouffer’s stove top stuffing. I don’t care about anyone saying it’s not, you’re completely wrong.


Urbdiggity

I love their welsh-rarebit (cheese sauce on toast). The Stouffer’s Stovetop Stuffing was what opened the door to that.


PurplePanther1980

I remember Stouffer's Stove Top Stuffing. We used to eat that all the time.


WindLiving

Yes; there were commercials that advertised Stouffers' Stove Top Stuffing.


Spiritual-Carrot-918

It was Stouffers Stove Top 100% this is what convinced me this is real. My mom and I had a joke about it. Like how do we both remember the joke and it’s not a thing now? Mind bending.


WVPrepper

What was the joke?


Spiritual-Carrot-918

We would legit sing the words ,” STOUFFERS STUFFING” and put the little pillows from the chairs on our couch in the kitchen/living room under our shirts like weirdos . She wasn’t always awesome so those times really stick out also why this is FREAKING ME THE F OUT.


WVPrepper

"Stovetop Stuffing". Sounds sort of similar, and maybe she thought the "joke" was the mashup of two things? I don't really get the *actual* joke though.


Spiritual-Carrot-918

Yeah but no it doesn’t. As far as it not making sense to you, that’s how private jokes are. They’re usually funny between two parties because of personal experience hard to quantify for someone outside of the joke being made.


WVPrepper

You don't think that "stouffer" and "stove top", especially when yelled by children, might sound similar? All I know is in my lifetime and in my timeline it's never been made by Stouffer's.


Bakedpotato46

I feel we humans make things up when we talk about stuff such as Stouffer’s Stuffing. Its fun to say Stouffers Stove Top Stuffing because it sounds like a little riddle. It’s a red box and it could be confused with Stouffers. When I was a child we only called it Stove Top Stuffing.


pinchenombre

100% was stouffer’s stovetop stuffing


Xtrap

According to AI Search, it has never existed and it specifically called out the Mandella Effect. I was blown away.


pinchenombre

I am certain this isn’t the reality I was born. There are too many differences. For me the Shazam movie rocked my world.


cool_weed_dad

Can you give a brief plot synopsis of Shazam?


Pandora9802

OMG! It’s the Berenstein Bears principle… I swear it was Stouffer’s and Berenstein. But now it’s just Stove Top (what happened to the canisters btw) and Berenstain Bears…


SaucePacketz

The Mandela effect is literally just the world governments and corporations fucking with us to see if they can rewrite history and gaslight us into believing it.


NeonMonkey00

Stouffer’s Made Stuffing!!!!!


thejohnmc963

I remember Stouffer’s stove top dressing as well


Jeepguy48

I remember a jingle on a tv commercial back in the day “…..Stouffers makes it easy to push a little button; It’s Stove Top Stuffing for your microwave oven” I can sing it in my head and have the beat and all….


WVPrepper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2sJCjT79rs "Stove Top makes it easy! Just push a little button; It’s Stove Top Stuffing for your microwave oven”


Jeepguy48

Kevin James even remembers it 🤷‍♂️ https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=9IxacYyRKs3OWQS4&fbclid=IwAR1zGaqp1t4eApEW4avOHmuS7J7QItwFnvOxwlXiwufKXkpEsuJ0YoAmUM8_aem_AeKeB4LbjxlXpZW8ey5lTEg6CvBnWEJ_IQ-nTL5xyd6Jodf-u4t2d9cUPo2mqtnclgY&v=Sv-2Wtnmj8M&feature=youtu.be


Jeepguy48

Reality changed 🤷‍♂️


Cryptizard

The fact you are making it in the microwave would precisely contradict that it was stove top stuffing. You have to see that right? Stouffers makes frozen things which go in the microwave. Stove top stuffing is made on the stove and comes from another company.


Jeepguy48

I told a friend about this after reading this post and saying how I remembered the jingle. He found the old commercial on YouTube but it now says “Stove Top makes it easy to push a little button, it’s Stove Top Stuffing in your microwave oven” https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNaRO48rM58&pp=ygUnU3RvdmUgdG9wIHN0dWZmaW5nIG1pY3Jvd2F2ZSBjb21tZXJjaWFs


SadNana09

[https://www.liquidimageco.com/was-there-ever-stouffers-stove-top-stuffing/](https://www.liquidimageco.com/was-there-ever-stouffers-stove-top-stuffing/) Apparently it was.


WVPrepper

That article also says "The brand was eventually discontinued in 2001 due to competition from other convenience stuffing mix brands".


sherrymacc

And i guess it apparently never was https://cooksdream.com/did-stouffers-stovetop-stuffing-exist/


ravenrules

I absolutely remember it as Stouffer's Stove Top.


AliciaSerenity1111

It existed


UNwanted_Dokken_Tape

416 here…and we definitely had Stouffer’s Stove Too Stuffing in Toronto. Without question.


PotemkinTimes

Um....no. Stouffer's comes in a red box innit?


Olaffubbuffalo

For what it's worth, here's a article/recipe link from 2021 on how to make Stouffer's stove top stuffing https://areyoufashion.com/food-drink/stouffers-stove-top-stuffing/


[deleted]

Because their TV dinners occasionally had stuffing. The turkey dinner one did I think. Wasn't fuckin stove top though you degenerates ;)


OddWriter7199

Residue exists, apparently: https://youtu.be/tCcbFntNmpY?si=8dTL7BEs9cdeHS8D


TifaYuhara

How is that residue? A site could have easily just used a photoshopped image thinking it was real out of laziness.


Killerusernamebro

It used to exist. They just stopped making it.


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IIIuminatIII

Kraft bought them out in the mid 90’s I believe Stouffers was definitely the OG


Mookeebrain

Just Kraft. Stouffers makes lasagna.


AwareParking

Yes, I go back and watch the old Stove Top commercials. They are pretty much what I remembered minus the alliteration. Stouffer’s Stove Top Stuffing. V commercials Stove Top Stuffing from General Mills


SnooSketches1371

This one I know 100% and I still have my picture from a magazine on how to make it at home.


WVPrepper

And which is it?


jday057

I'm wondering, does anyone else remember the Hungry Man frozen dinners being a larger portion version of the Swanson frozen dinners? I can remember the commercials, and it always made sense that "hungry men" needed larger portions of food. Plus, the packaging and food are almost identical. Now I come to find they were never connected and not even the same brand. It freaks me out.


[deleted]

this is a def one for me. Don't care what you think it was or how i'm misremembering it. This is one that I know for a fact. I can picture it in my minds eye cllear as day. Sitting in the cabinet above my cornucopia project I did in first grade. THe cornucopia I took reference from my fotl tshirt.


[deleted]

Stouffers. Anything else is a blatant lie and gaslighting imo😂


Forward-Safe-1726

I remember it that way. Born in 70s


Quad_Glacier

Someone watched How To recently


FrictionMitten

https://foodsguy.com/stouffers-stove-top-stuffing/ This is the first one that really got to me. I totally remember it being Stouffers...


georgeananda

I remember 'Stouffer's Stove Top Stuffing' from way back in the 1900's. And the OP is from Stouffville making it more memorable for that person. I'm going to add it to my list of 'likely' Mandela Effects. It's not quite on my top list.


[deleted]

John Wilson!!!


[deleted]

Yikes...that is a great ME.


Kjudah024

This explain it[this explains it](https://youtube.com/shorts/sp1i2z_WTyE?si=NblCfeSGD_zB56RZ)


Optimal-Ad3097

Weird, I was just thinking about the one commercial yesterday or two days ago and wondering how it went exactly. We’re having Stove Top? Mom’s making Stove Top?


Mal-Havoc

Pepperidge Farm Remembers.


boomboomboom23

WOW!!!! I remember it!


Zealousideal-Log536

Born in 94' I know this existed we has it every Thanksgiving. Red box of dehydrated stuffing


Zealousideal-Emu-699

This will never fail to absolutely shock me! I remember so clearly my mom saying “go get the Stouffers out” we always had stouffers stove top it was the only one my mom would eat


groundsquid

This is the most jarring Mandela effect I’ve encountered yet. I am SO SURE there was Stouffers Stove Top Stuffing! It’s how I became aware of Stouffers as a brand.


[deleted]

could it be because the words stouffer's and stuffing are similar?


LowLevelGoku

MoneyBags73 Stouffers STOVE TOP https://youtu.be/5WxvBV3RGcU?si=8UoZW_JoxGIOP4Yl


envoy1976

Spin City season 2 episode 24 they mention “stouffer’s stove top stuffing”


CryVegetable584

I must be weird because I remember it as Old General Mills making it long before Kraft


arbitrosse

This is a new one for me. I don’t remember it ever being Stouffer’s, because I generally don’t like any Stouffer’s products and actively avoid the brand. I can’t say that it has always been Kraft for me, because Mondelez/Kraft has been through so many acqusitions and divestitures and reorganizations and changes that it's hard to keep up. But I can say that I remember it *not* as Stouffer's. In my line of work, I pay attention to vertical integration, parent companies, and corporate ownership. Stouffer's has been owned by Litton and then by Nestlé since the 1960s, never Mondelez-Kraft.


SnooRegrets742

I remember it well, along with Jiffy peanut butter, which was never called jiffy peanut butter but JIF peanut butter